Dear Listers, I did put this question to the GENANZ list a few weeks ago and had some good replies but not what I wanted. I am looking for a death of Victor Vidler. We know he was alive around 1960-62. He was born 1907 at Murwillumbah. He married Stella Grace Biddulph in 1929 and she is buried in the Murwillumbah cemetery.Victor remarried a Marie ??? in Qld. Is there a mailing list for the Murwillumbah area or is there a cemetery list on CD or something. He is not on the NSW BDM online. The person I am trying to help feels he is probably buried in Murwillumbah but it must be after 1978. I have also tried the Ryerson index with no success. Victor's parents were Noah Mark Vidler and Louisa Everson.I tried the local council for the area but they wanted $80.00 just to do a search which on computer would probably take 5 minutes. I thought that a bit costly for this 80 year old lady.Hoping someone may be able to help me, Regards Elaine

Hello MargM This is a BIG THANK YOU from The Listers for the marvelous volunteer work you do. Unfortunately I am unable to assist as I live in country Victoria but do appreciate your valuable input as well as that of the other volunteers. Thank you . I hope you receive assistance. Regards & thanks, Lance from Victoria. -------------------------------------------------- MARGM Said : Dear Listers > I wonder if there is anyone who goes fairly often to the > NSW State Library who would be willing to do look ups in the > Sydney Daily Telegraph newspaper ? . Have no idea how many > there might be ! I have done the look ups from the 1976 > SMH and my local Central Coast Express for quite a long time > . Last week I had 7 SMH and 2 CC Exp......... None at all > since about Thursday last week The Ryerson data base is an invaluable resource but it takes a great many volunteers to make it all work . Would you like to be one of these SKSs ?? You can use flash drives at the State Library Hope there is a SKS out there as at the moment we cant do look ups in the Daily Tele Many thanks Bye MargM Ryerson Volunteer SMH 1976 & Central Coast Express

Dear Listers I wonder if there is anyone who goes fairly often to the NSW State Library who would be willing to do look ups in the Sydney Daily Telegraph newspaper ? . Have no idea how many there might be ! I have done the look ups from the 1976 SMH and my local Central Coast Express for quite a long time . Last week I had 7 SMH and 2 CC Exp......... None at all since about Thursday last week The Ryerson data base is an invaluable resource but it takes a great many volunteers to make it all work . Would you like to be one of these SKSs ?? You can use flash drives at the State Library Hope there is a SKS out there as at the moment we cant do look ups in the Daily Tele Many thanks Bye MargM Ryerson Volunteer SMH 1976 & Central Coast Express

Have you searched the Brisbane Cemetery Database? There is at Pinnaroo in Bridgeman Downs Vidler Marie Emma 13 / 10 / 2006 97 years  but no Victor http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/BCC:BASE:425868246:pc=PC_899 perhaps a search of the Courier Mail Death Notices around this date may give you a clue to her spouse?? or relatives ?? cheers Jewelly Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come.   You wait and watch and work: you don't give up. Anne Lamott (American Writer) --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Elaine Rogers <alelaine@tpg.com.au> wrote: From: Elaine Rogers <alelaine@tpg.com.au> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Vidler To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, 9 September, 2009, 10:00 AM Dear Listers, I did put this question to the GENANZ list a few weeks ago and had some good replies but not what I wanted. I am looking for a death of Victor Vidler. We know he was alive around 1960-62. He was born 1907 at Murwillumbah. He married Stella Grace Biddulph in 1929 and she  is buried in the Murwillumbah cemetery.Victor remarried a Marie ??? in Qld. Is there a mailing list for the Murwillumbah area or is there a cemetery list on CD or something. He is not on the NSW BDM online. The person I am trying to help feels he is probably buried in Murwillumbah but it must be after 1978. I have also tried the Ryerson index with no success. Victor's parents were Noah Mark Vidler and Louisa Everson.I tried the local council for the area but they wanted $80.00 just to do a search which on computer would probably take 5 minutes. I thought that a bit costly for this 80 year old lady.Hoping someone may be able to help me, Regards Elaine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Hello Ann, A needle-in-a-haystack without more information, a few names or dates to go on? Wodonga and Bonegilla are both in Victoria (yes, close to the NSW border), but there won't be any records for them in NSW and you may have more success joining the Victorian mailing list. Albury is the closest town on the NSW side of the border, unfortunately the cemetery records aren't online for checking; you might find some of the family wandered into NSW if you check the BDM index. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-VIC.html http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/nsw/index.htm http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/wodonga/wodonga.htm http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births Good luck Trish Nowra NSW > Please can someone look up for me and see if there are any deaths and if > there are any cemeteries records for the above. They did live in the > Bonegilla or Wodanga Vic. area which I am lead to beleive is near the > border with NSW > Thanking you Ann (NZ)

Please can someone look up for me and see if there are any deaths and if there are any cemeteries records for the above. They did live in the Bonegilla or Wodanga Vic. area which I am lead to beleive is near the border with NSW Thanking you Ann (NZ)

Hi Jenelle Thanks for the info. I have researched the BDM's, I was hoping someone knew the family and had more information. Sue On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jenelle McCarrick <jmac2005@tpg.com.au>wrote: > Sue, another snippet and contact for John WICKENDEN. > Jenelle. > http://boards.ancestry.com.au/surnames.wickenden/62.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue, Found the following info online - Trish Nowra NSW There are two children on the NSW BDM index - Mary A. WICKENDEN, born 1833 (V1833186 126/1833); parents John and Catherine Rosanna WICKENDON, born 1839 (V18391371 24A/1839); parents John and Catherine Also found someone else looking for them on Ancestry - John WICKENDEN c.1788 in Kent, married Catherine ??? in Caven-Ireland; arrived in Australia on "Bussorah Merchant" as a soldier with wife and son in 1832. John WIGGINGTON under Captain Moncrief, arrived 14.12.1831, from Dublin. Free passenger/Private in 4th Regiment/aged 35 years - JOHN WICKENDEN (WICKENTON) 1791-1872 CATHERINE McMANUS 1813-1855 John WICKENDEN was born in the County of Kent, England. On 1st January 1821 he enlisted as a Private in the 4th Regiment-­of-Foot at Salisbury, England. Stationed at Cavan, Ireland in 1829 he was for 9 days in the Regimental Hospital, and according to early family hearsay, he met Catherine McMANUS who was employed there. There is no record of their marriage in Chaplains Returns. In a detachment of the Regiment on board convict ship Bussorah Merchant John arrived at Port Jackson, Sydney, December 14th 1831, Catherine and their son Joseph were also on that ship. At his own request and on paying the required sum of Five Pounds John was discharged from the Regiment at Parramatta on 31-12-1834. He was a Police Constable at Parramatta from 6th June 1835 to 3rd March 1838. In 1838, John and Catherine with their children Joseph and Mary Ann overlanded to Shelley's station Bombowlee, near Tumut, N.S.W. where John was employed as a labourer. At Bombowlee their family increased with the birth of Rosanna in 1839 and William in 1840. The family overlanded to Port Fairy, Victoria, in 1842. John WICKENDEN was a tenant farmer on land at Rosebrook, Port Fairy in 1843. At Rosebrook the family of John and Catherine increased, Eliza born 1843, Sarah born 1845. Catherine died at Rosebrook in 1855 and was buried in the early (sand dunes) Cemetery Port Fairy. I do not know why or when John changed his surname to Wickenton. >From VICTORIAN DIRECTORY 1850-51 Wickenton, Mrs Midwife James Street, Belfast. John Wickenton Farmer. In 1859 John was residing and farming with son William at Wangoom near Warrnambool. In 1869, when William with his wife Ann and family moved to reside and farm at Panmure, John went with them. John Wickenton died suddenly at Panmure on 22nd December 1872. He is buried in Warrnambool Cemetery. "Fought at the battle of Waterloo" should not have been inscribed on the headstone of his grave, the 4th Foot Regiment fought there in 1815. John enlisted with that Regiment in 1821.2<<< http://boards.ancestry.com.au/surnames.wickenden/62.1.1.1/mb.ashx

Sue, another snippet and contact for John WICKENDEN. Jenelle. http://boards.ancestry.com.au/surnames.wickenden/62.1.1.1/mb.ashx

Sue - a google search has revealed this snippet on John Wickenton so far... Jenelle. http://www.geocities.com/vic1847/w/w15.html?20095

Hi Josephine, Thank you that was what I was looking for. I didn't know his wife or childrens names Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Conray" <javc@powerup.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > Hi Liz > > I have search ancestry for you and found the following not sure if it your > family. There are two other families of Musgrove on the ship "Annie > Wilson" > beside Richard. > > Richard Musgrove arrived 8 April 1862 on the ship "Annie Wilson" Estimated > age born 1819. Place of Origin Mitsorth, Down. > > Richard 43 years > Margaret 43 year's wife > Benjamin 19 years > Joseph 17 years > Michael 14 yeas > Pheobe ? 12 years > > Also 1841 and 1861 England Census showing a family off Richard & Margaret > living in Durham England and there are some family Trees for Richard above > and his family. > > > Hope this helps > Josephine > Qld > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of john maxwell > Sent: Monday, 31 August 2009 8:10 PM > To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > > Thanks Jenelle, > You have givem me some ideas as to where to start looking > Liz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove > > >> Liz, >> as a rule census were not kept in Australia, just the odd ones survive, >> the >> first complete census kept 2006. >> Have you looked at www.familysearch.org, www.rootsweb.com click world >> connect page, www.ancestry.com.au is a paid site, perhaps your local >> library >> or historical society has a subscription, >> the National library of Australia has been digitising the newspapers, >> have >> you been through that site. Check out www.ozgenon-line cemeteries, >> www.coraweb.com.au >> www.records.nsw.gov.au for New South Wales records. >> Jenelle. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "john maxwell" <lizmax@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:28 PM >> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Richard Musrave/Musgrove >> >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> I am trying to help a friend in America trace her family and was hoping >>> that some one on this list was able to help me. >>> >>> This is all the information that I have >>> >>> Richard MUSGRAVE/MUSGROVE emigrated with his family to Australia in 1862 >>> on "Annie Wilson" The family was sponsored by the Australian >>> Agricultural >>> Society to work in the coal mines around Newcastle. >>> >>> Can anyone point me in a direction of where to go from here.Are census >>> records or shipping records available or something similar.to show who >>> was >>> with Richard when he arrived here? Is there any records of the AAS. >>> >>> Thank you for reading this >>> >>> Liz Maxwell Melbourne >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2336 - Release Date: >> 08/30/09 >> 17:51:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, the BDM, New South Wales are online, google births, deaths and marriages, new south wales, www.records.nsw.gov.au, www.coraweb.com.au try the www.familysearch.org and also www.rootsweb.com click world global connect or just google your family. Is John Wickenton a convict - try Claim a convict or convict central... Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "subarn" <barnsy.sue@gmail.com> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] JOHN WICKENTON > Good Afternoon Everyone > > I am a newcomer to your list. > > I am seeking any information on JOHN WICKENTON and his wife > > Catherine McManus & their family. > > I appreciate any assistance, thank you. > > I believe they arrived in NSW in about 1831 > > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.77/2346 - Release Date: 09/04/09 17:51:00

Good Afternoon Everyone I am a newcomer to your list. I am seeking any information on JOHN WICKENTON and his wife Catherine McManus & their family. I appreciate any assistance, thank you. I believe they arrived in NSW in about 1831 Sue

I have already checked Gale newspapers - nothing relevant there. http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs/ 2009/9/5 Trev Symonds <psym8950@bigpond.net.au>: > newspapers.  Have you checked the UK newspapers for that time period?  Its

Hi Ian, Thank you for the cemetary Information. Sorry I forgot to put in the dates--must have been having a senior moment!!. The deaths occured during the latter part of the 1800s and were people who came out from England to work in the mines. Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Jordan" <paynescrossing@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Cemateries > Hi Liz and list > > Please please please when posting tell us the time period in which you > are interested. > > Newcastle is now the largest city in the Hunter Valley but before WW1 > it was a port, road and rail centre serving the Hunter Valley, one of > several HV towns. Wickham is Newcastle's west end. Lambton was a > colliery which became residential area. Both are part of Newcastle > City Council area. > > If you have a death in Newcastle, then the burial may be in any of > many cemeteries or a cremation at one of a number of crematoria; see: > http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/cemeteries/allcems.php > > That page will show you that not all are searchable online but > explains how you can lookup. > > Regards > > > 2009/9/4 john maxwell <lizmax@optusnet.com.au>: > >> I am looking for the names of cemateries in the Newcastle and Wickham >> areas.Also are they searchable on line? >> >> Whereabouts is Lambton? is it in the Newcastle area? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Pearle, Thanks for the information as to where Lambton is and also for the cemetaty information. Regards Liz Original Message ----- From: "Perle" <perle@baonline.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Cemateries >> After you great help with my last query I am hoping that you can help me >> once again. >> >> I am looking for the names of cemateries in the Newcastle and Wickham >> areas. >> Whereabouts is Lambton? is it in the Newcastle area? > > Hello > > Sandgate is a large cemetary north of Newcastle and Lambton is a suburb. > > Regards. > > Perle Brooking. > South Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dorothy, Thank you for the Site for finding cemetaries.It will be really helpfull. Regards Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram" <ingram@satlink.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Cemateries > Hi Liz & List, > > This is a great site for finding cemeteries. > > http://www.auscem.com/auscemlist.php > > cheers > Dorothy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: john maxwell > To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 6:10 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Cemateries > > > Hi Everyone, > > After you great help with my last query I am hoping that you can help me > once again. > > I am looking for the names of cemateries in the Newcastle and Wickham > areas.Also are they searchable on line? > > Whereabouts is Lambton? is it in the Newcastle area? > > Thanks for reading this > > Liz in Melbourne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If he was only in NSW for 2 1/2 years, and didn't marry or have children, then you probably won't find out much more other than what is on his death certificate and the information given about his background in the newspapers. Have you checked the UK newspapers for that time period? Its possible his hometown may have reported his crime and execution, giving details of his family there. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > THANK YOU, I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES AND HIS DEATHCETIFICATE. > LIKE TO FIND ALL THAT IS POSSIBLE ABOUT HIM.

Hi Trish The Gaol records will not include the trial records. These will be Supreme Court records. Depositions (ie record of evidence taken) http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Series\845 The depositions 1841-1931 have been sorted into Sydney (by month) and country (alphabetical by place) for each year. Few papers survive for 1841-1920. Regards Ia Jordan

Hi Feitje Goulburn Gaol records at NSW Archives - http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-82 http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=%5CAgency%5C419%5CSeries%5CCreating Newspaper reports from the National Library of Australia - http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3259408?searchTerm=%22frederick+clark%22 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5692162?searchTerm=%22frederick+clark%22 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3724165?searchTerm=%22frederick+clark%22 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3719669?searchTerm=%22frederick+clark%22 http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3726576?searchTerm=%22frederick+clark%22 NSW BDM Index - CLARKE, Frederick, aged 28 years, died Goulburn-NSW, 1860 (cert. no. 3895/1860) Possible arrival on the NSW State Archives (assuming he arrived in NSW and not another State)- Frederick CLARK, aged 21 years, aboard "Herald", arrived 1856 in Sydney and Newcastle (Reel 2138 4/4793 and Reel 2473 4/4961) Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > G'day > Frederick Clark / Clarke born 1831/1832 in England ( where ? ) > Occupation: carpenter and was about 2.5 years in NSW > Lived a while around Murringo. > Hanged: 8 May 1860 Goulburn Gaol, NSW, he killed two men. > Is there more information available about Frederick Clark / Clarke ? > Local archives have nothing about him. > Thanks for your help.