I wonder if any Lister could help with my search for records for Dr Edward Roberts Smith, or offer suggestionsfor searches. Dr Smith was my gg grandfather's cousin. Both came to Australia for a time. The only record that I have been able to find relating to Dr Smith, is the birth of his son Dudley de Courcy Smith in 1879 and his death in 1889 at Cowra. I do have mentions of Dr Smith in the papers of the day, and these indicate that he was originally settled in the Carcour area. I have not found his arrival nor marriage. It is supposed that he married an Australian girl named Amy Frances de Courcey. I can find nothing about her. Dr Edward Roberts Smith returned to England ( Dudley Staffs)on the death of his father, Edward Fisher Smith, then living at the Priory Dudley STS. He had been agent for the Earl of Dudley, probably managing his coal mines and iron works, as many of the Smiths seemed to be coal and Iron masters. Edward Roberts Smith left Australia in 1892 with his wife. His death has been foundi n 1907 in England, but nothing re his wife. I am puzzled as to why there is nothing available in the carcoar area, nor BMD's. Cowra Hist Soc. has been very helpful regarding finding mentions of Edward in newspapers etc. He was Mayor there for a time. His son is buried on private property. I did send an email to the station owner but received no reply. I was hoping that the headstone might have clues. How do I find details of his arrival , marriage, and time at Carcoar? I would be so grateful for any help. TIA Gloria

Thanks for all your trouble Trish I think I will just keep a record of both versions and let their paternal Grandfather investigate if he wants to It's the Scott's blood in me!!!!!!!!!! Let him spend the money!!!! Cheers Steve -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trev Symonds Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:22 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] McCawley Hi Steve, It sounds like a bit of a puzzle, doesn't it? There is a death for Helen McCawley at Temora in 1901, its the closest connection I could find. If Ellen died as Ellen SANDERSON, I wonder what she was doing in Byron Bay (surfing holiday?). There are some mistakes in the NSW indexes regarding place names, but I didn't see one for Temora/Byron Bay - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nswsdps/dps/nswbdmer.htm You may need to invest in a certificate or two to sort her out. You can use a transcription agent in NSW (much cheaper) and pay for just the fields you want, instead of a complete certificate. If you only want to confirm you have the correct person perhaps the death certificate for Ellen SANDERSON, asking just for the names of her children, would answer the question? http://www.transcriptions.com.au/ http://www.joymurrin.com.au/ Temora Family History Group might be able to clarify the information that is published in the book - Neil Martin, PO Box 181, Temora NSW 2666 temorafamilyhistory@bigpond.com Wattle Farm seems to still be in existence, if its the same one you mentioned in your email, no idea if they have records - http://www.fatcow.com.au/c/Wattle-Farm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > The info that I have comes from the book "Temora Yesterday and Today" but > it > could be a misprint > It says that she died at "Wattle Farm" Broken Dam at the age of 57yrs sep > 1902??? > Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Steve, It sounds like a bit of a puzzle, doesn't it? There is a death for Helen McCawley at Temora in 1901, its the closest connection I could find. If Ellen died as Ellen SANDERSON, I wonder what she was doing in Byron Bay (surfing holiday?). There are some mistakes in the NSW indexes regarding place names, but I didn't see one for Temora/Byron Bay - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nswsdps/dps/nswbdmer.htm You may need to invest in a certificate or two to sort her out. You can use a transcription agent in NSW (much cheaper) and pay for just the fields you want, instead of a complete certificate. If you only want to confirm you have the correct person perhaps the death certificate for Ellen SANDERSON, asking just for the names of her children, would answer the question? http://www.transcriptions.com.au/ http://www.joymurrin.com.au/ Temora Family History Group might be able to clarify the information that is published in the book - Neil Martin, PO Box 181, Temora NSW 2666 temorafamilyhistory@bigpond.com Wattle Farm seems to still be in existence, if its the same one you mentioned in your email, no idea if they have records - http://www.fatcow.com.au/c/Wattle-Farm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > The info that I have comes from the book "Temora Yesterday and Today" but > it > could be a misprint > It says that she died at "Wattle Farm" Broken Dam at the age of 57yrs sep > 1902??? > Steve

Thanks for that Trish The info that I have comes from the book "Temora Yesterday and Today" but it could be a misprint It says that she died at "Wattle Farm" Broken Dam at the age of 57yrs sep 1902??? Cheers Steve -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trev Symonds Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:35 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] McCawley Hi again Steve, There is no death registered for Ellen McCAWLEY/McCAULEY in 1902. Perhaps the information you have on a death in 1902 was a typing error or incorrectly read as 1902 instead of 1922 if the writing was poor? The NSW BDMs show the following information - Marriages 1912 - McCawley, Ellen married to William J. Sanderson, Temora, 7530/1912 Deaths - Sanderson, Ellen (-McCauley) 74 years; Byron Bay; 4421/1922 also - Sanderson, Ellen, 74 years; Murwillumbah; 4290/1922 also, possible death for William in 1927 - Sanderson, William, son of John/Anne, Temora, 19458/1927 Marriage of daughter Ellen McCAWLEY to William THOMPSON Cootamundra-NSW, 1900 (3648/1900) Two possible deaths for her on NSW BDMs - Ellen Thompson, dtr of Thomas/Ellen, Chatswood (32450/1962) Ellen Thompson, dtr of Thomas/Ellen, Sydney (9964/1931) Temora Cemetery has been transcribed by the Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra, they may have more information on the family for you - http://hagsoc.org.au/main/index.php http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nsw/temora/temoraold.htm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I had most of that but I am not so confident re the Remarriage of Ellen as > she is supposed to have died in 1902 > They did have a daughter called Ellen but she is supposed to have married > William Thompson > Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, I have been researching the Sutton family for quite some time. The above lady died when her daughter Katie Jean was only 4 days old.Katie L.L.B Sutton married James Thomson Gray 16 march 1903. Katie Jean was born 1912. I have found out that Katie Jean was adopted out to Crosby Hunter and his wife Mary Ann nee Weber.If there is any family member out there I would love to make a connection. Also can any one tell me how I can put the adoption into Family Tree Maker apart from making notes in the notes section. Katie Jean Gray was born at Portland. Katie Lucy Lloyd Barnes Sutton died Portland and is buried at Wallerawang. Many thanks in advance, Regards Elaine

Hi again Steve, There is no death registered for Ellen McCAWLEY/McCAULEY in 1902. Perhaps the information you have on a death in 1902 was a typing error or incorrectly read as 1902 instead of 1922 if the writing was poor? The NSW BDMs show the following information - Marriages 1912 - McCawley, Ellen married to William J. Sanderson, Temora, 7530/1912 Deaths - Sanderson, Ellen (-McCauley) 74 years; Byron Bay; 4421/1922 also - Sanderson, Ellen, 74 years; Murwillumbah; 4290/1922 also, possible death for William in 1927 - Sanderson, William, son of John/Anne, Temora, 19458/1927 Marriage of daughter Ellen McCAWLEY to William THOMPSON Cootamundra-NSW, 1900 (3648/1900) Two possible deaths for her on NSW BDMs - Ellen Thompson, dtr of Thomas/Ellen, Chatswood (32450/1962) Ellen Thompson, dtr of Thomas/Ellen, Sydney (9964/1931) Temora Cemetery has been transcribed by the Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra, they may have more information on the family for you - http://hagsoc.org.au/main/index.php http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nsw/temora/temoraold.htm Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I had most of that but I am not so confident re the Remarriage of Ellen as > she is supposed to have died in 1902 > They did have a daughter called Ellen but she is supposed to have married > William Thompson > Steve

Thanks for that Trish I had most of that but I am not so confident re the Remarriage of Ellen as she is supposed to have died in 1902 They did have a daughter called Ellen but she is supposed to have married William Thompson Thanks again Steve -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trev Symonds Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2009 6:04 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] McCawley Hi Stephen, What info do you have, and what exactly are you looking for? Thomas McCawley arrived with parents Robert/Sarah and 3 siblings on Ben Nevis 1856 aged 14. Married Ellen Gale at Queanbeyan 1863. NSW BDMs have 12 children born to Thomas and Ellen McCawley in Queanbeyan/Wagga area. Do you have these children, their marriages, etc. Death of Thomas in 1894 at Temora. Remarriage of Ellen McCawley at Temora in 1912 to William J Sanderson. Ellen died 1922 at Byron Bay. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Would there be anyone researching the line of Thomas McCawley & Ellen Gale > or have any info of the name McCawley > The name was very "kindly" changed from McCauley to McCawley by officials > when they entered Australia > Stephen Westley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Listers Would a lister who have the Johnson and Sainty book on Devonshire St cemetery (aka Sandhills) do a look up for me My question is: Were any of those listed below originally buried at Devonshire St Emily J Newton died 1 Jan. 1863 buried (presumably re-interred) Rookwood 12 April 1901 Mary E Cannon died 10 Jan. 1879 buried (presumably re-interred Rookwood14 April 1901 Adam Newton died 10 Jan. 1887 buried (presumably re-interred) Rookwood 11 April 1901 I would be grateful for any help with this Patrick Callaghan

Hi Steve, No problem. Happy to help. :) Sherrie. On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:20:53 +1100, Anne & Steve Westley <annesteve@aussieisp.net.au> wrote: > Hi Sherrie > > Thank you, Thank you, Thank you > > You are quite right to chastise me but I was not expecting an answer > from an > archivist, just hoping for an answer from a McCawley relative!! > > Your info is fantastic and whilst I knew some of the facts already, you > have > taken me back 2 more generations and given me the name of Jock McFee who > I > am hoping to contact > > Thanks again I am very grateful > > Cheers > > Steve > > he

Hi Sherrie Thank you, Thank you, Thank you You are quite right to chastise me but I was not expecting an answer from an archivist, just hoping for an answer from a McCawley relative!! Your info is fantastic and whilst I knew some of the facts already, you have taken me back 2 more generations and given me the name of Jock McFee who I am hoping to contact Thanks again I am very grateful Cheers Steve he subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephen, What info do you have, and what exactly are you looking for? Thomas McCawley arrived with parents Robert/Sarah and 3 siblings on Ben Nevis 1856 aged 14. Married Ellen Gale at Queanbeyan 1863. NSW BDMs have 12 children born to Thomas and Ellen McCawley in Queanbeyan/Wagga area. Do you have these children, their marriages, etc. Death of Thomas in 1894 at Temora. Remarriage of Ellen McCawley at Temora in 1912 to William J Sanderson. Ellen died 1922 at Byron Bay. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Would there be anyone researching the line of Thomas McCawley & Ellen Gale > or have any info of the name McCawley > The name was very "kindly" changed from McCauley to McCawley by officials > when they entered Australia > Stephen Westley

Hi Stephen, A decade would be good or even a century. lol Some burials... http://www.interment.net/data/aus/nsw/southerntablelands/stthomas/index.htm McCawley, Eliza, d. 23 Sep 1874, age: 2 y 6m, par. Thomas McCawley & Ellen Gale, Unmarked McCawley, John, d. Mar 1867, age: 1yr, par. Thomas McCawley & Ellen Gale, Unmarked McCawley, Robert, b. Cavan Ireland, d. 26 Sep 1868 Molonglo, age: 62yr, par. Thomas McCawley, & Headstone McCawley, Sarah Suitor, b. Cavan Ireland, d. 22 Oct 1879 Molonglo, age: 75yr, par. Samuel Suitor & Isabella Robinson, Headstone jock McFee - 09:05am Jul 25, 2008 Irish (#89 of 114) http://bbs.mayo-ireland.ie/WebX?14@5.RYSndwwCuRj.0@.1dcf1d11 Loking for information on Thomas McCawley ,born around 1790, married Isabella Robinson. Their son Robert , married Sarah Suitor and they went to Australia with their familes. Thanks Jock McFee Possible birth in Cavan... Robert & Sarah's children 1. Jane McCauley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1837 , Cavan, Ireland 2. Sarah McCauley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1839 , Cavan, Ireland 3. Thomas McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1841 , Cavan, Ireland 4. John McCauley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1848 , Cavan, Ireland Judy from Virginia Beach, VA, searching back in 1999... http://newsarch.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENANZ/1999-01/0915634587 http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/DPS-CHAT/2005-08/1123975701 'Robert and Sarah sailed for NSW Australia on 06 Jul 1856 onboard the "Ben Nives". When the family arrived in NSW, there were four children, Jane (b. 1838), Sarah (b. 1840), Thomas (b. 1842), and John (b. 1849). All the children are listed as being born in County Cavan.' & this... Name: Ellen GALE Given Name: Ellen Surname: Gale Sex: F Birth: Abt. 1843 in Surrey, England Death: September 25, 1902 in "Wattle Farm", Broken Dam, New South Wales, Australia Note: Arrived 1859 Per "Nimroud" Sydney, New South Wal Name: Thomas (MACAULEY, MCCAWLEY) MCCAULEY Given Name: Thomas Surname: (MacAuley, McCawley) Mccauley Sex: M Birth: 1842 in County Cavan, Ireland Death: May 11, 1894 in "Forrest Home", Temora, New South Wales, Australia Peter has a little on the family... http://tinyurl.com/ydgs9av This IGI has their actual birth place, rather than the NSW BDM's place of registration.... 1. WILLIAM MC CAWLEY - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 04 FEB 1868 Molonglo, , New South Wales, Australia died 21 SEP 1941 2. John McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1866 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia died 1867 3. Eliza McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1870 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia died 1872 4. Frederick McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1875 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia died 1886 5. Robert McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1864 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia 6. Jane McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1871 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia 7. James McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1873 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia 8. Sarah Jessie McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1877 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia 9. Thomas McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1879 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia died 1883 10. Ellen McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1881 Molonglo, , New South Wales, Australia 11. Frank McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 1883 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia died 1883 12. Edith Florence McCawley - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 1886 Molonglo Guessnew South Wales, , , Australia Thomas McCawley Event(s): Birth: 1841 , Cavan, Ireland Death: 11 MAY 1894 Parents: Father: Robert McCawley Mother: Sarah Robert McCawley Event(s): Birth: 1808 , Cavan, Ireland Death: 26 SEP 1868 deaths... 6288/1868 - MCCAWLEY ROBERT THOMAS - DIED QUEANBEYAN Kind regards, Sherrie. --- http://www.silkweb.com.au/ On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:01:30 +1100, Anne & Steve Westley <annesteve@aussieisp.net.au> wrote: > On behalf of my 2 grandchildren, I am trying to fill in the other side of > their family tree. > > > I think children should know all of their lines. > > > Would there be anyone researching the line of Thomas McCawley & Ellen > Gale > or have any info of the name McCawley > > > The name was very "kindly" changed from McCauley to McCawley by officials > when they entered Australia > > > Thanks in advance > > > Stephen Westley > > --

On behalf of my 2 grandchildren, I am trying to fill in the other side of their family tree. I think children should know all of their lines. Would there be anyone researching the line of Thomas McCawley & Ellen Gale or have any info of the name McCawley The name was very "kindly" changed from McCauley to McCawley by officials when they entered Australia Thanks in advance Stephen Westley

Is the sks who would be willing to take photo’s of the following at Glen Innes Cemetery for me as I live in New Zealand. I am tracing my late partner’s ancestry for our son. This would help him try to connect with his Aussie Ancestors. I would also appreciate it if I could get copies of death notices. If there is anyone on the list who requires a lookup in New Zealand (Christchurch only) I will see what I can do. Regards Michelle Cook Stanley George Cook born 1892, died 21/7/1942, buried 23/07/1942, ID#2759, Age 50, Roman Cath Portion, Section F, Number 13. Evelyn Beatrice Cook, born 1895, died 19/12/1967, buried 21/12/1967, Age 72, Roman Cath Portion, Section F, Number 12. There is a headstone. Her father was George Thomas Cecil died 7/1/1943, buried 9/1/1943, ID# 2823, age 78 (bc1865), Anglican Portion, Section F, Grave No.5. No headstone indicated. Catherine Isobel Cecil died 8/8/1937, buried 8/8/1937, Roman Cath. portion, Section D, Grave No. 113. Grave marked with a Stake. Stanley James COOK, Born: 14 Sep 1915 - Emmaville New South Wales, Died: 12 Mar 2002 - Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia, Buried: 15 Mar 2002 - Glen Innes Cemetery, New South Wales, Australia, Marriage: 1936 Place: Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia Wife: Doris Elsie HANDEBO, Born: 7 Jun 1915 Died: 22 Sep 1997 - Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia, Buried: 26 Sep 1997 - Glen Innes Cemetery, New South Wales, Australia. Both buried Lawn Portion, Section AC, Grave Number 12 Joseph John COOK, Born: 2 Jan 1927 - Emmaville New South Wales, Died: 15 Aug 1977 - Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia, Buried: 17 Aug 1977 - Glen Innes Cemetery, New South Wales, Australia, Marriage: 1948, Place: Waverley, NSW, Australia, Wife: Wanda Joan BARNETT, Born: 22 Aug 1924,Died: 29 Mar 2005 - Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia, Buried: 1 Apr 2005 - Glen Innes Cemetery, New South Wales, Australia. Both Buried Roman Catholic Portion, Section H, Grave No -177

Greetings Listers Many will know that for a number of years now I have been slowly re-creating the lost burial register of the Balmain Catholic cemetery and as part of that project I am currently trying to locate the last burial there. The cemetery officially closed about 1905 but few burials took place after 1900. Does any lister have any record of a burial into this place during 1903 or 1904. After about 1900 it was often called RC cemetery Leichhardt, as it was actually located in what was then known as the suburb of Leichhardt Fingers Crossed Patrick Callaghan

MargM, You must think I am crazy. Probably not far wrong today. I was asking if Blayney covered Cudal . I have since sent a message to Blayney History themselves. Sorry If I have confused you. Must be the heat. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Do you any Blayney ancestors ? > > > > Reminder closing date fast approaching > Blayney Pioneer Register Settlement to Federation. We are > still taking names and stories of people and families who > lived in or were born in the Blayney Shire and surrounding > areas from the first settlement through to 1901. Entry forms > can be downloaded from our website at abercrombiecaves.com > or send an email to blayneyhistory@yahoo.com.au or you can > contact us direct by phoning either Rhonda on 0263663089 or > Molly 0263682860 and we will post one out to you. Closing > date is the 26th January 2010. > > Bye > > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Reminder closing date fast approaching Blayney Pioneer Register Settlement to Federation. We are still taking names and stories of people and families who lived in or were born in the Blayney Shire and surrounding areas from the first settlement through to 1901. Entry forms can be downloaded from our website at abercrombiecaves.com or send an email to blayneyhistory@yahoo.com.au or you can contact us direct by phoning either Rhonda on 0263663089 or Molly 0263682860 and we will post one out to you. Closing date is the 26th January 2010. Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Sorry MargM. I should probably have sent my question to BlayneyHistory. Will do so now. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Do you any Blayney ancestors ? > > > > Reminder closing date fast approaching > Blayney Pioneer Register Settlement to Federation. We are > still taking names and stories of people and families who > lived in or were born in the Blayney Shire and surrounding > areas from the first settlement through to 1901. Entry forms > can be downloaded from our website at abercrombiecaves.com > or send an email to blayneyhistory@yahoo.com.au or you can > contact us direct by phoning either Rhonda on 0263663089 or > Molly 0263682860 and we will post one out to you. Closing > date is the 26th January 2010. > > Bye > > MargM > Beautiful NSW Central Coast > NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi again Brian, Okay, if his parents were John and Jane, then he wasn't the Andrew Smith who died in 1907 as his parents with Timothy/Jane. Correct death info - 1914, SMITH Andrew, parents John/Jane, Wollongong, Certificate No 13427/1914 Still in the coal mining area of Wollongong; interesting both he and Elizabeth seem to have died the same year. Rereading the notes I sent to you earlier, "they weren't married in NSW" wasn't quite clear, and referred to Elizabeth SCLANDERS parents Robert and Barbara, and not Andrew/Elizabeth. The Australian Family Tree Connections runs ads for those searching for descendants - http://www.aftc.com.au/ The Sydney Morning Herald is the largest newspaper in Sydney and goes Australia-wide - http://www.smh.com.au/ The Lists are a good place to find like-minded people, it just depends on whether descendants are researching at the same time as you are. Andrew Smith's death certificate may give you a lot more information and clues on where to go next, especially if the names of his married daughters help in identifying them in the records; especially if you are looking for Alice GUGELHEIM instead of Alice SMITH. NSW Death Certificates show - the name of deceased, date of death, place of death, age, occupation, cause of death, parents' names, spouse name, marriage details, childrens' names, number of children living/deceased, birthplace of deceased, last known residence, burial place including name of minister and undertaker. The information is only as good as the person providing the details. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian smith" <marg-n-bri@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] FW: Andrew Smith > Hi Trish > > Thank you for details, > Sarah's parents were John and Jane so I use fathers name to locate death > in > NSW. > Is there a site for a Sydney newspaper were I could send a message asking > if > anyone knew descendants of Andrew and Sarah > Cheers > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Trev Symonds > Sent: 15 November 2009 23:13 > To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] FW: Andrew Smith > > Hi Brian, > With a name like SMITH its difficult to identify family members, so I'm > not > making much progress. > Andrew SMITH married Sarah HASKINS 1881 West Bromwich. I couldn't find > them > > on a passenger list into NSW 1881-1884 when their first child was born > here. > He remarried Elizabeth SCLANDERS in Lithgow-NSW in 1897. After a bit of > searching, I found Robert and Barbara SCLANDERS as parents in death > indexes > with children James, Thomas and Elizabeth. Elizabeth SMITH, daughter of > Robert/Barbara, died Newtown-NSW in 1914. They weren't married in NSW, > none > > of the children born NSW. The son James operated a grocery store on Cooks > River Road at St Peters, registered 1904, carried on by son James > Sclanders > and widow Fanny Ryland after his death (NSW Archives) > Andrew SMITH died 1907 Woonona-NSW, a northern suburb of Wollongong, a > major > > coal-mining area south of Sydney. You may be able to find a headstone > transcription through the Council or FHS - > http://memorialgardens.wollongong.nsw.gov.au/DeceasedSearch.htm > > Illawarra FHS, headstones Woonona Presbyterian - > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausifhg/localrecords.html > You've given five children to Andrew/Sarah - Bettie 1883, Annie 1885, Lily > 1888, Alice 1891, and William 1894, all born Parramatta except Bettie. > The NSW BDM site has the children of Andrew/Sarah listed as - > 1884 - Martha R.E. Smith, Lithgow-NSW (would the letter E be for > Elizabeth/Bettie?) > 1885 - Annie M. Smith, Newtown-NSW > 1888 - Lily E. Smith, St Peters-NSW > 1891 - Alice F. Smith, Parramatta-NSW > 1894 - William J. Smith, Parramatta-NSW > 1896 - Sarah J. Smith, Newtown-NSW (only a possibility) > Lithgow is a town in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney, also known for > coal-mining. The other areas are suburbs of Sydney. The birth of Sarah J > Smith is registered after her mother's death, assuming this child belongs > in > > this family. If Sarah snr died in childbirth towards the end of the year, > the baby's birth may not have been registered until the new year, and she > was named for her mother? - just a thought. There were five deaths listed > in 1895 for Sarah SMITH, so unsure which one you have picked up, but if it > is the one registered at Redfern this is close to Newtown where baby was > registered. > I've only found one marriage for any of the children as the names are > fairly > > common with more than one marriage to any of them. In 1918, Lily Emily > SMITH married Frederick Edward CLARKE; Lily Emily CLARKE daughter of > Andrew/Sarah, died Manly-NSW 1972. Frederick Edward CLARKE is listed at > the > > Australian National Archives as born 22 September 1892 Glasgow-Scotland, > Church of England, Fireman by trade; Service No 12136, enlisted Sydney 5 > Feb 1920 for 7 years in the navy; next-of-kin Lily Clarke living at 8 > Edmund Street Waverley NSW; he served on "Cerberus" and "Melbourne". I > didn't find Lily's burial in Manly, Macquarie Park or Frenchs Forest - she > may have been cremated; no death notice listed on Ryerson. > You may need to purchase a few certificates to find more information. It > is > > cheaper to use a transcription agent in NSW than to go through the > Registry > Office - > http://www.transcriptions.com.au/ > http://www.joymurrin.com.au/ > Cheers > Trish > Nowra NSW > >> I'm trying to find detail of Andrew Smith who married Sarah Haskins in >> Birmingham England before emigrating to the Sydney area were he was a >> miner >> dying in 1907. Sarah had died in 1895 and Andrew remarried Elizabeth >> Sclander in 1897. Andrew and Sarah had the following children Bettie >> 1883, >> Annie 1885. Lily 1888, Alice 1891 and William 1894 all except Bettie were >> born in Paramatta according to NSW BMD site. >> Brian Smith > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.66/2504 - Release Date: 11/15/09 > 07:50:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Michelle The National Library States it is available from the author Meagher, B. E. (Brian E.) Description [Mortdale, N.S.W. : B.E. Meagher], c1987.  4 v. (83; 24; 32; 27 p.) : geneal. tables, ports. ; 21 cm.  ISBN 0958831041 (V. 4)  0958831017 (V. 1)  0958831025 (V. 2)  0958831009 (set) :  0958831033 (V. 3)  Notes Contents: V. 1. William and Mary Meagher, Robert and Frances Leatheard - V. 2. Richard Henry Bingham (jn.), Michael and Anne O'Gorman - V. 3. Richard and Nancy Keating, Edward and Honora Reading - V. 4. Susanna Hottes, Henry and Mary Fakes. Available from Mr B.E. Meagher, 9 Breakwell Street, Mortdale, N.S.W. 2223. Shift your problems to challenges.  When you have problems, you worry about them.  When you have challenges - you are working, applying, and attacking your plan to get results. This shift in thinking from problems to challenges is important in making tension an asset. --- On Mon, 16/11/09, Michelle Cook <chammenfamilynz@gmail.com> wrote: From: Michelle Cook <chammenfamilynz@gmail.com> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Book Wanted-An outline history of our ancestral pioneers V.4 / by B.E. Meagher To: AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com Received: Monday, 16 November, 2009, 1:11 PM Is there anyone on the list who can tell me if the book An outline history of our ancestral pioneers V.4 / by B.E. Meagher  is still available please. I would like to be able to purchase this book as it has information on my son’s 3x great grandmother Susanna Hottes and her extended family. Regards Michelle Cook ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________________________ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/