Thanks Julie . GM -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of julie dern Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2009 9:34 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Re-interments from Devonshire St cemetery Graeme, >From re-interment Register (Roman Catholic), exhumation permit by Department.

I would like to sincerely thank all Listers who helped with my query re Edward. Because of the help offered and the Australian Medical Pioneers Index being made known to me, I am now much better informed re the doctor. The Editor of the AMPI did further research on Edward after I had given him his birth, parentage and native place details. Thanks to him and you all, I now know that he arrived in 1874 and had his wife with him. I have the vessel's name, also. So thank you all so much. I am truly grateful. Gloria

Graeme, >From re-interment Register (Roman Catholic), exhumation permit by Department. Headstones now in Bunnerong Cemetery. John ACHESON, died 19.2.1863, aged 46. Erected by his daughter Anna Maria. John, infant son of ...... & Sarah ACHESON, died 4.3.1852, aged 10 months & 3 weeks, also Alice Mary, daughter of the above, died 18.11.1858, aged 9 weeks. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

The name is John Acheson . Thanks Graeme -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of julie dern Sent: Saturday, 21 November 2009 5:22 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Re-interments from Devonshire St cemetery Graeme, What was your ancestors name & I will have a look at the Early Sydney Burial ground. Not every entry has a contact name & address as regard to the exhumation permit. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.74/2515 - Release Date: 11/20/09 08:02:00

Graeme, What was your ancestors name & I will have a look at the Early Sydney Burial ground. Not every entry has a contact name & address as regard to the exhumation permit. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

An ancestor of mine was removed from Devonshire St to Botany Pioneer Section . How do I find out who the exhumation permit was issued to ? Graeme -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of julie dern Sent: Friday, 20 November 2009 12:18 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Re-interments from Devonshire St cemetery

Patrick, As nobody has replied to your query, I have checked the Old Sydney Burial Grounds. All originally buried Devonshire Street Cemetery. Emily Jane NEWTON, died 19.7.1863 & Adam NEWTON, died 25.12.1880, Mary Bradbury NEWTON, died 12.12.1865, Thomas Bradbury NEWTON, died 6.9.1885, Richard Alfred CANNON, died 16.2.1864, William Alfred CANNON, No details, Mary Ellen CANNON, died 6.12.1879, Ellen DOOLAN, died 25.2.1878, exhumation permit for all of the above, issued to Mrs. C. NEWTON, 26 King St., Sydney. all reburied Rookwood Roman Catholic Cemetery. Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com

Ho-ho, Steve, this is getting curiouser and curiouser. If you ever get to the bottom of it, I hope you let us all know the outcome. Trish > Hi Trish > I have sent an Email, but the plot thickens!!!!!! > Have just realised that there is a Sanderson section in my reference book > It tells me that William Sanderson remained a bachelor and died in 1927 at > the age of 75??? > Steve

Thanks so much for that. I have added to the information available on that wonderful Pioneers site. Edward was born in Dudley Worcs. in 1843 to a seriously wealthy family. I am wondering if he came out at the same time as my g g grandfather in 1873, with other Smith rellies and 9 STS families heding for the Ironworl\ks at Nattai. G G grandfather hopeful of having as much success as his uncle Richard had in Canada. I will check that passenger list. Thanks Trish. Gloria

Hi Gloria, He is mentioned on the Medical Pioneers Index. Name: SMITH, Edward Robert Qualifications: MRCS 1864, LSA 1866 First Registered in Australia: 1874, NSW Address: Carcoar-NSW 1870s Positions Held: Medical Officer Carcoar Hospital References: Cole, JM "Chronicles of a Country Hospital Carcoar NSW 2001" http://www.medicalpioneers.com/ NSW Archives, Shipping Registers Assisted Immigrant Arrivals - suggestion only, do you know his DOB? SMITH, Edward, aged 46, Dunbar Castle, 1877 (two other Edward SMITH arrivals into NSW were 1862 and 1863, so before he qualified) No luck with his marriage in NSW, Victoria, Queensland, Tasmania or New Zealand. Maybe they married on the outward voyage? Cheers Trish Nowra NSW >I wonder if any Lister could help with my search for records for Dr Edward >Roberts Smith, or offer suggestionsfor searches. > The only record that I have been able to find relating to Dr Smith, is the > birth of his son Dudley de Courcy Smith in 1879 and his death in 1889 at > Cowra. I do have mentions of Dr Smith in the papers of the day, and these > indicate that he was originally settled in the Carcour area. I have not > found his arrival nor marriage. It is supposed that he married an > Australian girl named Amy Frances de Courcey. I can find nothing about > her. Dr Edward Roberts Smith returned to England ( Dudley Staffs)on the > death of his father, Edward Fisher Smith, then living at the Priory Dudley > STS. He had been agent for the Earl of Dudley, probably managing his coal > mines and iron works, as many of the Smiths seemed to be coal and Iron > masters. Edward Roberts Smith left Australia in 1892 with his wife. His > death has been foundi n 1907 in England, but nothing re his wife. > Gloria

Good Afternoon, In the register of Medical Practitioners for 1885 I find:- SMITH, Edward R. Cert No: 742 Date of Registration: July 6. 1874. No address Stated. Qualifications Registered: Mem. R. Coll. Surg. Eng. 1864; Lic. Mid. R. Coll. Surg. Eng. 1865; Lic. Soc. Apoth. London, 1866. Htth Terry ---->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gloria Hargreave Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 12:25 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] Dr. Edward Roberts Smith I wonder if any Lister could help with my search for records for Dr Edward Roberts Smith, or offer suggestionsfor searches. Dr Smith was my gg grandfather's cousin.

Dear Gloria The list at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/AUS/AUS-NSW-ORANGE-DISTRICT.html might have more specialised knowledge of Carcoar than here. Dudley STS lies the The Black Country: http://www.sedgleymanor.com has a names research page. The people at http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-STS-SEDGLEY.html are friendly and helpful. There's also http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-BLACKCOUNTRY-DIASPORA.html don't know them but they might help. 2009/11/19 Gloria Hargreave <smith-thompson@bigpond.com>:

Thanks so much for that Terry. He has obviously left England after 1866. He was b. in 1843....well qualified for a 23 year old. Found him in Dudley in 1871. He probably came out ( paying his own way) a couple of years at least before his son was born in 1878. He was born in Sydney, so this is probably where Edward married. I just cannot fathom why there is no record of him until he goes to Cowra in the 1880's. Thanks again. Gloria

How right you are Gloria. My first research into this family was for a William John Smith. Can you imagine how many there are? Yes, it's supposed to reach 37 here today and it's beginning to feel like we'll reach it. Best wishes. Ron N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Hargreave" <smith-thompson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:57 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Sr. Smith :Ron Norton > Many thanks Ron. Horrible name to research, isn't it? I have already > written to the Crookwell FHA, thinking that was the only one down there. > They had nothing at all. > So thanks for the tip, will try Blayney and Carcoar. My Hamptons and > Barnetts are from the areas around Crookwell/ Goulburn, Tuena and such. > Don't fry there, today. > It's a breezy cool 30 here today. (Nth Qld). > Gloria > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Trish I have sent an Email, but the plot thickens!!!!!! Have just realised that there is a Sanderson section in my reference book It tells me that William Sanderson remained a bachelor and died in 1927 at the age of 75??? Steve -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trev Symonds Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 11:56 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] McCawley Keep an eye on the newspaper transcriptions at the NLA website and the Ryerson Index, you may be lucky enough to find death notices published some time in the future. And shoot off an email to the Temora family history group, if they published the book they may have other records available to support the possible death in 1902. Both free of charge. It can get to be an expensive hobby if you have to pay for everything, so any way of documenting the story free-of-charge helps in sorting out all the branches on the tree. Trish. > I think I will just keep a record of both versions and let their paternal > Grandfather investigate if he wants to > It's the Scott's blood in me!!!!!!!!!! Let him spend the money!!!! > Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Flogged those Sedgley sites and Lists to death, thanks. They are a wonderful group of people. I have nearly everything about all my Smiths who came from the Sedgley/Coseley/Dudley areas of the 'Black Country', but Edward Roberts Smith info on his return fromAustralia remains a mystery...even the census show nought. but I really also want to know more about Amy de Courcey...and the time both spent in Carcoar. I will post a query to the Orange site Thanks so much . Gloria

A bit off List, Ron, but I know every Lister is hoping and wishing the same. That is ,that your area remains bushfire free. My grandson lives in Canberra, (born here) and loves the climate. Too hot for me!!! Good luck with your Smith research. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Norton" <ronn007@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Sr. Smith :Ron Norton > How right you are Gloria. > My first research into this family was for a William John Smith. Can you > imagine how many there are? > Yes, it's supposed to reach 37 here today and it's beginning to feel like > we'll reach it. > Best wishes. > Ron N. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gloria Hargreave" <smith-thompson@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:57 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Sr. Smith :Ron Norton > > >> Many thanks Ron. Horrible name to research, isn't it? I have already >> written to the Crookwell FHA, thinking that was the only one down there. >> They had nothing at all. >> So thanks for the tip, will try Blayney and Carcoar. My Hamptons and >> Barnetts are from the areas around Crookwell/ Goulburn, Tuena and such. >> Don't fry there, today. >> It's a breezy cool 30 here today. (Nth Qld). >> Gloria >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Gloria, I am descended from the Smith family of Carcoar and Cowra, including Edward Smith born 1818 at Marylebone, England, but cannot find any connection with your Edward Roberts Smith. However, Carcoar and Blayney both have very active family history centres and may be able to help you. Perhaps there is some reference in the Blayney and/or Carcoar Pioneer Registers. Sorry I can't help you with their e-mail or on line details at the moment. Good luck. Ron Norton Gordon ACT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Hargreave" <smith-thompson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 12:25 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Dr. Edward Roberts Smith >I wonder if any Lister could help with my search for records for Dr Edward >Roberts Smith, or offer suggestionsfor searches. message

Many thanks Ron. Horrible name to research, isn't it? I have already written to the Crookwell FHA, thinking that was the only one down there. They had nothing at all. So thanks for the tip, will try Blayney and Carcoar. My Hamptons and Barnetts are from the areas around Crookwell/ Goulburn, Tuena and such. Don't fry there, today. It's a breezy cool 30 here today. (Nth Qld). Gloria

Keep an eye on the newspaper transcriptions at the NLA website and the Ryerson Index, you may be lucky enough to find death notices published some time in the future. And shoot off an email to the Temora family history group, if they published the book they may have other records available to support the possible death in 1902. Both free of charge. It can get to be an expensive hobby if you have to pay for everything, so any way of documenting the story free-of-charge helps in sorting out all the branches on the tree. Trish. > I think I will just keep a record of both versions and let their paternal > Grandfather investigate if he wants to > It's the Scott's blood in me!!!!!!!!!! Let him spend the money!!!! > Steve