Hi MargM Once again - thank you very much for this information. Would you have access to the Victorian BDM's - I am interested in Mervyn FOOTE, b.19/2/1916 in gunnedah who married a lady - Kathleen Elizabeth in Victoria before 1944 when he joined the RAAF. Many thanks again, Glynis Wheeler St Clair. > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Population of the Colony of NSW E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Glynis & Scott Wheeler" <glynis.wheeler@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Population of the Colony of NSW > > Is there is anyone out there who can tell me what the > population of the NSW Colony was in 1857? > > Hi Glynis In Nick VINE-HALLs 'Tracing your family tree in Australia' book the population on the Colony of NSW on 1 Mar 1856 when a census was taken was 269,722 ,so very close to 270 thousand Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast NSW

Dear Folks, Is there is anyone out there who can tell me what the population of the NSW Colony was in 1857? Many thanks in advance, Glynis Wheeler St Clair, NSW E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

I have lost my address for REBETSKE?? regarding Keens information. If anyone has this would be please let me know. robin.el@iinet.net.au

YES deffinately anything that is online at www,bdm.nsw.gov.au can be given to you by an agent Maralyn Rowan is offering a Christmas special at this time I have just bought 2 records a death and a marriage for the yr of 1978 Christene

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill McGroder" <gordonmc@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] deaths in 1978 > Can anyone please tell me, if Transcription Agents can > provide > transcripts for deaths in 1978 ? Hi Jill Yes............. After31 Dec 2009 they will be able to get death certs for 1979 Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Can anyone please tell me, if Transcription Agents can provide transcripts for deaths in 1978 ? Regards, Jill

Hi State Records has no power to take records other than those in its statutory remit. If you have records like these, offer them to your local State Library. There may even be a tax benefit in your donation. Regards 2009/11/27 Glynis & Scott Wheeler <glynis.wheeler@bigpond.com>: >

Hi Cynthia, If a new home has not been found for these records - maybe the State Records of NSW would like to take them. Glynis > If someone from the NSW Genealogy Society/Family History Group, is > watching this list they might like to know that the owner of Walters > Funeral Directors, Sydney, told me she is on the verge of throwing out > 100yrs of records because they are taking up too much space. These are the > records of the 9 branches of the business which have been in the family > since her grandfather's day. Please don't let this happen. > She told me that most firms in Sydney have been taken over by big American > companies and they just send the records to the dump. Criminal. > In NZ we find the undertaker's records wonderful for genealogy as they > contain the same info as death certificate. They are only too happy to > share them with genealogists. A huge saving. > I hope a group of Sydney genealogists will get together, take these > records off their hands and make it their project to transcribe them for > history's sake. > Cynthia (NZ) E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13800 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Looking for decendants of James Burgess born Harleston, Norfolk UK before 1900 owned Fish Shop in early 1900's

Can someone please help me with a check of the following passenger information:? Edward LEWIN (with his family) came to Australia on board "Alfred" arr. Sydney 29 Jan 1842. Reel #1341. He was given two character references and I need to know who gave them. I do appreciate any help given. -- Glenys www.quietacre.com tribalpages.com

Hi list, Is there anyone researching the Diprose family. Would love them to contact me regarding this family to share information. Cheers Margaret Boots.

Hello Cynthia I agree with you these records need to be retained. The most appropriate people for the job are the Society of Australian Genealogists. You can contact them through their webpage and pass on the details http://www.sag.org.au/ info@sag.org.au Regards, Ann -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of aus-nsw-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 7:02 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 348 Today's Topics: 1. Inverell General Cemetery - lookup (Cynthia and Ted Glover) 2. Funeral Director's Records (Cynthia and Ted Glover) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:38:12 -0800 From: "Cynthia and Ted Glover" <cynted@actrix.co.nz> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Inverell General Cemetery - lookup To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9604984540964364937077A4D4D729D6@toshibaddff991> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Would some kind person be able to look at Inverell cemetery records for me, please. My great uncle, Bertram Dawson Vere FOSTER, died 1963, according to the BDMs for NSW. (He was known as "Vere.") I need an actual date of death to be able to look for his Death Notice. Would like to know if he had children, their names, and to know if he was still with his wife, Clarice FOSTER. Perhaps someone could help me with that also. Sincere thanks, Cynthia (NZ) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:49:25 -0800 From: "Cynthia and Ted Glover" <cynted@actrix.co.nz> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Funeral Director's Records To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <10DE68E461F841D89E662EB3BC35BCDF@toshibaddff991> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If someone from the NSW Genealogy Society/Family History Group, is watching this list they might like to know that the owner of Walters Funeral Directors, Sydney, told me she is on the verge of throwing out 100yrs of records because they are taking up too much space. These are the records of the 9 branches of the business which have been in the family since her grandfather's day. Please don't let this happen. She told me that most firms in Sydney have been taken over by big American companies and they just send the records to the dump. Criminal. In NZ we find the undertaker's records wonderful for genealogy as they contain the same info as death certificate. They are only too happy to share them with genealogists. A huge saving. I hope a group of Sydney genealogists will get together, take these records off their hands and make it their project to transcribe them for history's sake. Cynthia (NZ) ------------------------------ To contact the AUS-NSW list administrator, send an email to AUS-NSW-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-NSW mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 348 ***************************************

Hi Trish, Thanks for that - I only found listings for 'Australian GOVERNMENT Publishing Service, every time I followed a link or APS. A couple of years ago a NZ woman answered a message I left on a genealogy site in NZ - I thought she might have been a Stroud family connection but she turned out to be a member of a singing group (she didn't call it a choir) which the chaplain for the police cadet academy near Wellington held for amateur music enthusiasts He was also a member of a historical society which was collecting and saving early NZ composers and songwriters sheet music. He had been offered a cardboard box from someone in Australia and another from someone in CHristchurch who had papers and letters regarding my grandfather. I wrote to him but most of these were business letters between JJ and the many people he had on "the books" who wrote poems that they were hoping he'd have put to music for them. He sent me scans of some of these - I was at that time, hoping to find personal letters he may have written to friends with snippets of information about his early life or family issues - but the Trentham fellow didn't respond about that. My grandfather was going blind at the time my grandmother died in the late 1940s in NZ and he moved over to live with Mum (his only daughter) Mum's brother's weren't in a position to care for him. I spent a lot of time in his company and we had a wonderful grandfather/granddaughter relationship. He saw my early artistic and musical talents and did everything possible to encourage this - I owe him a lot! Cheers Ainslie.

Hi Trish, I went through all the online sources and contacted any musical society I could find to see if they might have been an amalgam of earlier songwriters, poets, composers etc. Their historians searched their listings and came back to me with no listing of that name - or with anyone of that name on the lists. When I found out about the Musicians Union and read the account of its formation on the site it seemed to have been the missing link but they didn't have James in their records either. It was a very interesting tale though - and certainly would give a reason why he enlisted in the army to get into a military band in order to get work! The bands were being employed by theatres to provide the backing for silent movies and live shows because the theatre owners didn't have to pay the bandsmen. The MU was up in arms - (almost literally!) and having large public rallies to raise support for their members who have been expected to perform for nothing. Any 'colonial' musician arriving expecting to get employment from his musical skills ub order to cover his living and travelling expenses abroad would be finding he'd landed in a right mess! The obvious solution was to join the army as a bandsman and as a service soldier - which is what James did. (I'd jumped to the conclusion he may well have found his birth father and that if (as highly likely he was) he had been a military man then he'd have urged his 'son' to follow in my footsteps young man! It would have satisfied my grandfather's desire to see the world and have adventure while being paid for the privilege. I can recall the twinkle in his eye as he recounted some of the stories to me as I stood at his knee. He wrote stories for the Bulletin - I vaguely remember seeing copies of them in my mother's papers - but I can't find any online source. My sister and her husband lived with my parents for a while after they married and a lot of papers were stored in the basement to make more room for my sister's belongings in the house - the basement wasn't damp proof and damp and water seepage got to the storage area and the papers became soggy and mouldy - and had to be thrown out. I can'd understand how my parents could be so unaware of the likely problem in the first place! Oh - well! They say, "that's life!" Cheers Ainslie.

Erin Cowell would like to recall the message, "[AUS-NSW] James Jesse Stroud - Australasian Musician, composer, songwriter and short story writer.".

Hi Trish, You probably already have this info but you didn't mention it so might be useful. http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/name-408030.html Erin

Ainslie, The British Songwriters Guild was established in 1936, a bit late for James Jesse Stroud. Perhaps they may be able to tell you what became of the British Songwriters Society - http://www.songwriters-guild.co.uk/history.htm There's also the British Academy of Composers and Songwriters - http://www.4rfv.co.uk/brieflisting.asp?scategory=159&company=9694 I couldn't find anything for the British Songwriters Society at the National Archives, telephone directories, google etc. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > My late grandfather James Jesse Stroud, born 1879, lived in NZ until his > late teens and then went off to England to try and find his birth family > details. > I'm researching his story and trying to fill gaps in the family stories. > We have a newspaper obituary which stated he had joined the British > Songwriters Society - but efforts to find the society has been fruitless. > Ainslie Pyne (nee Brown)

Hi Ainslie The Australian National Library in Canberra has a listing for James Jesse STROUD; there are five online publications for him (click onto the name of the publication that is highlighted in blue, and on the next screen you will see the words halfway down the page "Online Versions"; click onto that and it takes you to the publication) - http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Search/Home?lookfor=james+jesse+stroud&type=all&limits=&submit=Find There is a listing for The Australian Publishing Service, GPO Box 84, Canberra, ACT, 2601 - but no idea if this is the same publishing house that was operating during the early part of 1900, as this one is a government-body. I couldn't find anything for the APS at Paterson after the mid-1930s; it doesn't appear in current telephone directories. You could try Ask A Librarian at Music Australia - http://www.musicaustralia.org/apps/MA?function=authoredContent&name=contact&forceNewTrail=true Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > > My late grandfather James Jesse Stroud, born 1879, lived in NZ until his > late teens and then went off to England to try and find his birth family > details. > I'm researching his story and trying to fill gaps in the family stories. > I am now trying to find this Australian Publishing Service as I am > hoping to find copies of his writings and composing to add to the > collection of info I currently have on hand. > Any information would be much appreciated. > Ainslie Pyne (nee Brown)

Hi Cynthia, Bertram died 13.11.1962, aged 56, resided Oxford Hotel, Inverell, buried General section, Inverell cemetery. No sign of Clarice in the Inverell headstones. You can apply for death &/or funeral notices, using the 'ask a librarian' service, provided by the NSW State Library. Give the full date of date & location & they will let you know if there is anything available. www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask Cheers, Jules. Warren, NSW. (But, still a Queensland girl) julie.dern@bigpond.com http://derngenealogy.tribalpages.com