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Happy New Year to you all. Would there be sks out there with the NSW BDM index on CD willing to look up any children born to Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH who were married in 1906 in Narrabri, please? Both parents died whilst the children were still young. Many thanks in advance, Glynis Wheeler St Clair E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

League of Ladies ! LOL Ray > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:09:07 +1100 > From: suee@exemail.com.au > To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. > > > A happy New year to all! > > I am taking advantage of a lazy New years day and working on my > grandmothers biography. > > Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? > >From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have been some kind of > Womens league. > > Cheers > > Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Feeling the financial pinch? Check on MSN NZ Money for a hand http://money.msn.co.nz

Many thanks for this info. I'm sure my grandmother would have been quite happy to be in a League of ladies as well, but being a staunch Presbyterian with at least one brother a mason, the Loyal Orange Lodge may just be the answer! :) Thanks again, Cheers Sue Hi Sue and list Anything with LO in it sounds like "Loyal Orange". Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL) was/is a unit of the Loyal Orange Institution of NSW. Usually associated with Methodism and Free Masonry. Nowadays a more benign registered charity running nursing homes. Usually written with the lodge number after the abbreviation LOL. For example: New Lambton LOL 279, Adamstown LOL 28, Wallsend LOL 258. Regards

Hi Sue and list Anything with LO in it sounds like "Loyal Orange". Loyal Orange Lodge (LOL) was/is a unit of the Loyal Orange Institution of NSW. Usually associated with Methodism and Free Masonry. Nowadays a more benign registered charity running nursing homes. Usually written with the lodge number after the abbreviation LOL. For example: New Lambton LOL 279, Adamstown LOL 28, Wallsend LOL 258. Regards 2010/1/1 <suee@exemail.com.au>: > > Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? > From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have been some kind of Womens league.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Rob" <rayrobt@hotmail.com> To: "aus nsw" <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. > > League of Ladies ! > LOL Ray youre making that up :-) bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW > >> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 18:09:07 +1100 >> From: suee@exemail.com.au >> To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. >> I am taking advantage of a lazy New years day and working >> on my >> grandmothers biography. >> >> Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? >> >From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have >> >been some kind of >> Womens league.

A happy New year to all! I am taking advantage of a lazy New years day and working on my grandmothers biography. Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? >From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have been some kind of Womens league. Cheers Sue

Thank you everyone for your suggestions on how to find what became of the elusive Roy Lomas. Yes, I will be getting the pertinent certificates, but NSW certificates are so painfully slow to arrive, I was hoping to be able to find more information while waiting. Thanks Jenelle, I have now tried your suggestions without any luck. I didn't know that the Archways site existed, so that was an extra bonus! Graeme, the Bullpitt family were originally from Hampshire in the UK, and as you say, it's not a common name. William Henry Bullpitt (one of 12 children) migrated to Australia about 1870, married my great aunt Phoebe Jessie Coleman and produced 12 little Bullpitts, but as far as I know, they generally remained around the Bundaberg/Brisbane areas. Kerry, while I'd already found Cecile's death, I hadn't found the marriage, so am exploring that path to try to find a connection between the two Lomas families. Patricia Norma didn't appear on the electoral rolls until 1949, so presumably would only have been aged less than 26. I've only found one documented birth to Cecile and Leonard (Ida who was born and died in 1906). Given that Cecile married in 1906 at 21yo, she would have still only been about 38 when Patricia was born, assuming my guess re Patricia's age is correct. Leonard Lomas died in 1924, which would still fit in with my estimates of Patricia's age. Cheers LynY >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I wonder if anyone can help me find what became of a longlost cousin, >>> details as follows: >>> >>> Roy Morton LOMAS >>> b1909 Bundaberg, Qld >>> Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and >>> John >>> Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). >>> >>> In 1933, Roy and his wife Ethel May ALEXANDER (m1932 Marrickville NSW) >>> moves in with his father, and Roy and Ethel and John and Florence live >>> together intermittently in Randwick until at least 1943. >>> >>> In 1949, Roy is living with Cecile and Patricia Norma LOMAS in >>> Paddington >>> NSW but is nowhere to be found in 1954. I can find no LOMAS family >>> connection between Roy and Cecile and Patricia. I suspect Patricia was >>> Cecile's daughter (she married Mervyn PAYNTER in 1949 but can find no >>> record of Cecile marrying despite going back to 1920. >>> >>> In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John >>> and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. >>> Florence died Randwick 1969, John in Sydney 1973. >>> >>> I can't find any trace of Roy in QLD, NSW or VIC electoral rolls or >>> BMDs, >>> or on the NAA site. I would imagine he would have died more than 10 >>> years >>> ago, so have also searched online at Rookwood and Eastern Suburbs >>> Cemeteries. I would love to know what became of him, and whether Cecile >>> was related to him or whether the shared (but uncommon) surname was >>> purely >>> coincidental. >

Hi Glynis, I didn't know until now that war brides lost their Australian citizenship when they moved to the USA; I don't know if this site has any helpful information for you - http://www.southern-cross-group.org/brides/overview.html Some interesting background material with references worth following up - http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/97795/SLQ_-_Travelling_for_Love_-_War_Brides_talk_-_Robyn_Arrowsmith.pdf http://www.usa.embassy.gov.au/whwh/files/WarBridesApr07.pdf http://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=698879206975596;res=IELHSS http://www.awm.gov.au/research/bibliographies/ww2/us_forces.asp Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Thanks to your efforts, I have found that Millicent travelled from Manila, > Phillipines to San Francisco on the USNA "Fred C Ainsworth" on the 14th > December 1951. She was travelling under the name of BARTLETT. > Does any one know where the Australian War Brides would have married? > Is there any data bases that have recorded War Birdes going to USA? > Glynis Wheeler

Hi Trish and fellow listers, Thanks to your efforts, I have found that Millicent travelled from Manila, Phillipines to San Francisco on the USNA "Fred C Ainsworth" on the 14th December 1951. She was travelling under the name of BARTLETT. I have now got Minor Earl BARTLETT's death certificate from Texas, USA on which it states his spouse is Millicent BARTLETT. I, also have Minor's enlistment details. He was in the USA Army Air Corps. I would hazard a guess that Millicent joined Minor at the Clark Air Force Base in the Phillipines prior to her travelling with other war brides to USA. Does any one know where the Australian War Brides would have married? Is there any data bases that have recorded War Birdes going to USA? Many thanks for your assistance in advance, Glynis Wheeler > >> I am interested in finding the marriage of Millicent Clare FOOTE and >> Minor >> Earl BARTLETT. >> Milicent was the daughter of Clarence Henry FOOTE and Ruby Stella WHITE. >> She was born in Gunnedah on the 25th July 1908. She became a teacher and >> taught in Newcastle, Duddley (she was living at the Oceanview Hotel >> whilst >> there) and in Sydney. In 1943 Millicent was teaching at sydney Church of >> England Girls Grammar School (SCEGGS) at Darlinghurst. She was living at >> 108 Clapton Place, Darlinghurst. >> The family story has Millicent marrying a gentleman by the name of Minor >> Earl BARTLETT. I have checked the Electoral Rolls for 1949 and 1953-54 >> without success. >> Glynis Wheeler >> St Clair, NSW > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Lyn, There is a death in NSW for Cecile LOMAS 1970/2796 Father: Thomas Francis, Mother Josephine District: Sydney Marriage for a Cecile FARRELL to Leonard LOMAS 1906/5957 District: Sydney I know this would then make her about 60 + in 1949 and Patricia in her 30's 40's when she got married? hope this helps in some way regards Kerry

Hi Trev You are a treasure. I will follow up this information - I had not thought about IGI site. If she was a war bride or was to be a war bride it would explain why she disappeared from Australia. Many thanks & hope you have a great & safe New Year. Glynis Wheeler St Clair Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Millicent Clare FOOTE and Minor Earl BARTLETT E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Glynis, A google search for the name "Minor Earl BARTLETT" threw up this link in America for the obituary of a lady named Johnnie BERNHARD who grew up in San Antonio; the obituary mentions her father Minor Earl BARTLETT and her brother Minor Earl BARTLETT, jnr. It made me think that perhaps Millicent may have been an American War Bride, and moved to the USA post-1944, so I tried to search a bit further. http://www.harpertalasek.com/services.asp?locid=33&page=odetail&id=11311 The IGI threw up the following information when I searched for "Millicent Clare BARTLETT" - Name: Millicent BARTLETT Birth Date: 25 July 1908 Death Date: 6 May 2002 Social Security Number: 458-44-8787 State or Territory where number was issued: Texas Death residence localities: ZIP Code: 78228; Localities: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas There is a possible match for Minor BARTLETT - Name: Minor BARTLETT Birth Date: 17 September 1915 Social Security Number: 456-01-4012 State or Territory where number was issued: Texas The 1881 Census for USA has Minor E BARTLETT aged 8 years, son of Milton and Mary BARTLETT in Vigo, Knox, Indiana - this may be Minor's father and grandparents? Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > I am interested in finding the marriage of Millicent Clare FOOTE and Minor > Earl BARTLETT. > Milicent was the daughter of Clarence Henry FOOTE and Ruby Stella WHITE. > She was born in Gunnedah on the 25th July 1908. She became a teacher and > taught in Newcastle, Duddley (she was living at the Oceanview Hotel whilst > there) and in Sydney. In 1943 Millicent was teaching at sydney Church of > England Girls Grammar School (SCEGGS) at Darlinghurst. She was living at > 108 Clapton Place, Darlinghurst. > The family story has Millicent marrying a gentleman by the name of Minor > Earl BARTLETT. I have checked the Electoral Rolls for 1949 and 1953-54 > without success. > Glynis Wheeler > St Clair, NSW

Dear Folks, Hope you all have a safe and Happy New Year for 2010. I am interested in finding the marriage of Millicent Clare FOOTE and Minor Earl BARTLETT. Milicent was the daughter of Clarence Henry FOOTE and Ruby Stella WHITE. She was born in Gunnedah on the 25th July 1908. She became a teacher and taught in Newcastle, Duddley (she was living at the Oceanview Hotel whilst there) and in Sydney. In 1943 Millicent was teaching at sydney Church of England Girls Grammar School (SCEGGS) at Darlinghurst. She was living at 108 Clapton Place, Darlinghurst. The family story has Millicent marrying a gentleman by the name of Minor Earl BARTLETT. I have checked the Electoral Rolls for 1949 and 1953-54 without success. Does anyone out there know of this couple? Does anyone have any suggestions of where I can look? I have checked the NSW BDM Index for the marriage or death of the couple. There is no listing in the Ryerson Index for their death. Thanking you all in advance, Glynis Wheeler St Clair, NSW E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Bullpitt is a very unusual name . I remember seeing it at Waverley Cemetery . Any connection ? Graeme -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Yates Sent: Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:47 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg Qld Thanks Jenelle, yes I have tried the Ryerson Index (unsuccessfully).

Hi Lyn, Have you obtianed Ethel's death certificate to see if he is mentioned on it? That was how I discovered one of my relatives had divorced. Have a safe & Happy New Year Glynis wheeler St Clair >> Roy Morton LOMAS >> b1909 Bundaberg, Qld >> Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and >> John >> Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). >> In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John >> and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

tried the electoral rolls through ancestry..Brisbane city council cemetery is on line, in case he went to WA, google Perth cemeteries and look in there, in case he went across the ditch (New Zealand), google Archways, New Zealand to see if he had probate.. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Yates" <lyates@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg Qld > Thanks Jenelle, yes I have tried the Ryerson Index (unsuccessfully). > > Lyn > > > >> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:26:32 +1100 >> From: "Lyn Yates" <lyates@bigpond.net.au> >> Subject: [AUS-NSW] Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg Qld > >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> I wonder if anyone can help me find what became of a longlost cousin, >> details as follows: >> >> Roy Morton LOMAS >> b1909 Bundaberg, Qld >> Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and >> John >> Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). >> >> In 1933, Roy and his wife Ethel May ALEXANDER (m1932 Marrickville NSW) >> moves in with his father, and Roy and Ethel and John and Florence live >> together intermittently in Randwick until at least 1943. >> >> In 1949, Roy is living with Cecile and Patricia Norma LOMAS in Paddington >> NSW but is nowhere to be found in 1954. I can find no LOMAS family >> connection between Roy and Cecile and Patricia. I suspect Patricia was >> Cecile's daughter (she married Mervyn PAYNTER in 1949 but can find no >> record of Cecile marrying despite going back to 1920. >> >> In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John >> and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. >> Florence died Randwick 1969, John in Sydney 1973. >> >> I can't find any trace of Roy in QLD, NSW or VIC electoral rolls or BMDs, >> or on the NAA site. I would imagine he would have died more than 10 >> years >> ago, so have also searched online at Rookwood and Eastern Suburbs >> Cemeteries. I would love to know what became of him, and whether Cecile >> was related to him or whether the shared (but uncommon) surname was >> purely >> coincidental. >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Jenelle, yes I have tried the Ryerson Index (unsuccessfully). Lyn > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:26:32 +1100 > From: "Lyn Yates" <lyates@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg Qld > > Hi Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can help me find what became of a longlost cousin, > details as follows: > > Roy Morton LOMAS > b1909 Bundaberg, Qld > Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and John > Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). > > In 1933, Roy and his wife Ethel May ALEXANDER (m1932 Marrickville NSW) > moves in with his father, and Roy and Ethel and John and Florence live > together intermittently in Randwick until at least 1943. > > In 1949, Roy is living with Cecile and Patricia Norma LOMAS in Paddington > NSW but is nowhere to be found in 1954. I can find no LOMAS family > connection between Roy and Cecile and Patricia. I suspect Patricia was > Cecile's daughter (she married Mervyn PAYNTER in 1949 but can find no > record of Cecile marrying despite going back to 1920. > > In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John > and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. > Florence died Randwick 1969, John in Sydney 1973. > > I can't find any trace of Roy in QLD, NSW or VIC electoral rolls or BMDs, > or on the NAA site. I would imagine he would have died more than 10 years > ago, so have also searched online at Rookwood and Eastern Suburbs > Cemeteries. I would love to know what became of him, and whether Cecile > was related to him or whether the shared (but uncommon) surname was purely > coincidental. >

Lyn, have you tried the Ryerson Index or the newspapers that are being digitised and are online through the National Library of Australia digitising project.. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Yates" <lyates@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg Qld > Hi Listers, > > I wonder if anyone can help me find what became of a longlost cousin, > details as follows: > > Roy Morton LOMAS > b1909 Bundaberg, Qld > Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and John > Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). > > Bernice and John's marriage broke up some time during the 1920s. In 1919 > they are still living together in South Brisbane. The following > information I have pieced together from the electoral rolls on ancestry. > > Bernice appears in 1924 in Melbourne (alone), the next sighting being > still in Melbourne in 1931 with her cousin Theodore George Lovell who she > married in 1942. > > John appears in 1930 with new wife Florence Gertrude (unknown), living in > Randwick NSW. I've not found any marriage for them in either NSW or QLD. > > In 1933, Roy and his wife Ethel May ALEXANDER (m1932 Marrickville NSW) > moves in with his father, and Roy and Ethel and John and Florence live > together intermittently in Randwick until at least 1943. > > In 1949, Roy is living with Cecile and Patricia Norma LOMAS in Paddington > NSW but is nowhere to be found in 1954. I can find no LOMAS family > connection between Roy and Cecile and Patricia. I suspect Patricia was > Cecile's daughter (she married Mervyn PAYNTER in 1949 but can find no > record of Cecile marrying despite going back to 1920. > > In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John > and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. > Florence died Randwick 1969, John in Sydney 1973. > > I can't find any trace of Roy in QLD, NSW or VIC electoral rolls or BMDs, > or on the NAA site. I would imagine he would have died more than 10 years > ago, so have also searched online at Rookwood and Eastern Suburbs > Cemeteries. I would love to know what became of him, and whether Cecile > was related to him or whether the shared (but uncommon) surname was purely > coincidental. > > Can anyone offer any suggestions or illumination? > > Thanks, > Lyn Y > Melbourne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.122/2591 - Release Date: 12/28/09 19:32:00

Hi Listers, I wonder if anyone can help me find what became of a longlost cousin, details as follows: Roy Morton LOMAS b1909 Bundaberg, Qld Parents: Bernice Amy BULLPITT (b1890 Bundaberg, d1972 Melbourne) and John Maunder Morton Gladstone LOMAS (b1885 Bundaberg, d1973 Sydney). Bernice and John's marriage broke up some time during the 1920s. In 1919 they are still living together in South Brisbane. The following information I have pieced together from the electoral rolls on ancestry. Bernice appears in 1924 in Melbourne (alone), the next sighting being still in Melbourne in 1931 with her cousin Theodore George Lovell who she married in 1942. John appears in 1930 with new wife Florence Gertrude (unknown), living in Randwick NSW. I've not found any marriage for them in either NSW or QLD. In 1933, Roy and his wife Ethel May ALEXANDER (m1932 Marrickville NSW) moves in with his father, and Roy and Ethel and John and Florence live together intermittently in Randwick until at least 1943. In 1949, Roy is living with Cecile and Patricia Norma LOMAS in Paddington NSW but is nowhere to be found in 1954. I can find no LOMAS family connection between Roy and Cecile and Patricia. I suspect Patricia was Cecile's daughter (she married Mervyn PAYNTER in 1949 but can find no record of Cecile marrying despite going back to 1920. In 1949-1954, Roy's wife Ethel is still living in Randwick next to John and Florence. She died in 1961, Sydney. Florence died Randwick 1969, John in Sydney 1973. I can't find any trace of Roy in QLD, NSW or VIC electoral rolls or BMDs, or on the NAA site. I would imagine he would have died more than 10 years ago, so have also searched online at Rookwood and Eastern Suburbs Cemeteries. I would love to know what became of him, and whether Cecile was related to him or whether the shared (but uncommon) surname was purely coincidental. Can anyone offer any suggestions or illumination? Thanks, Lyn Y Melbourne