Hello, Thank you for explaining this. I can mention that the "Orange Lodge" has been discussed on one or 2 of the Lists for Canada (Maritime Provinces). That's where I had heard about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Institution Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "paynescrossing" <paynescrossing@gmail.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. (Women Voting??) > 2010/1/2 Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net>: > >> month) that in the US it was the 1920's that women got the "right to >> vote." > >> "League of Women Voters." > >

Hi Betty and list Australia became a federation in on 1 Jan 1901 when the six former colonies became federal states of the Commonwealth. Unlike the US 19th amendment, no constitutional amendment was required to give women the vote in Australia. The all-male conferences which debated the question of federation and the drafting of the Australian Constitution did debate whether women should have the vote: the Constitution was left silent on the question but provided that if you had a right to vote in a State election, then you had a right to vote at a Federal election which meant that South Australian and Western Australian women had a federal right to vote. In 1902, the Commonwealth Parliament legislated to extend the right to most women in the other States (aboriginal women had to wait some time to get the franchise or have it restored) and exercised that right for the first time in the elections held in December 1903. Electoral rolls from 1903 are a really valuable source of family history information. There's a useful timeline of milestones "Electoral Milestones for Women" at: http://www.aec.gov.au/elections/australian_electoral_history/milestone.htm The Commonwealth Parliament has good list of links "Women in Politics" at: http://www.aph.gov.au/library/intguide/pol/polwomen.htm One of those links takes you to "A Matter of Public Importance: Votes for Women" http://www.aph.gov.au/library/intguide/POL/women/Women.htm There were Leagues of Women Voters in the various states later federated and renamed as the Australian Federation of Women Voters. See: http://trove.nla.gov.au/people/514004?c=people None of these used the acronym LOL. I still think that the most likely reference is to Loyal Orange Lodge. Regards 2010/1/2 Betty <bbffrrpp@comcast.net>: > month) that in the US it was the 1920's that women got the "right to vote." > "League of Women Voters."

Also means "laugh out loud" HNY everyone On 2/01/2010 7:01 PM, aus-nsw-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LOL (Peter Strauss) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 18:45:18 +1100 > From: "Peter Strauss"<p.strauss@iinet.net.au> > Subject: [AUS-NSW] LOL > To: "List-AUS-NSW"<AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<000201ca8b7f$87fcf590$97f6e0b0$@strauss@iinet.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Listers, > > > > While not being sure exactly what "LOL" represents I am pretty sure that the > Orange Lodge and the Masonic Lodge are a long way apart in tradition and in > purpose. > > > > I have heard it suggested that this is an abbreviation for "Lots of Love", > Little Old Lady" and there may be more. > > > > Peter > > Melbourne > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-NSW list administrator, send an email to > AUS-NSW-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-NSW mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-NSW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 > ************************************* > >

Hi Listers, While not being sure exactly what "LOL" represents I am pretty sure that the Orange Lodge and the Masonic Lodge are a long way apart in tradition and in purpose. I have heard it suggested that this is an abbreviation for "Lots of Love", Little Old Lady" and there may be more. Peter Melbourne

HI Phil, If you had a family tree already on an older FTMaker program you should be able to transfer your info as a GEDCOM file. Pretty sure that's what I do when I update my FTMaker programs. If not your best bet would be to contact their customer service help site, Good Luck Jann -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of philandcolleen@ozemail.com.au Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2010 10:53 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] Family Tree Maker 2009 I am just about pulling my hair out with Family Tree Maker 2009! Can anyone on the list tell me how to shortcut having to put all my details when starting a new 'tree'? At the moment I have to put all my information at the beginning.....there must be a way to 'paste' and 'save as' ????????????? I found that I can Rename Tree but the actual tree filename I am renaming is also changed. This is day three with me trying to work it out........if someone can help me please.......maybe off list? philandcolleen@ozemail.com.au Colleen Central Coast NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Colleen I do not have Family Tree Maker. On my old Generations program I can mark each person that I want in my new "tree", then I can EXPORT the marked persons as a GEDCOM file. To create the new tree I create a new tree from the menu then I IMPORT the GEDCOM that I created as above. This will populate my new tree with the marked persons. Hope this helps you. Regards Allan Murphy allanmurphy47@bigpond.com -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of philandcolleen@ozemail.com.au Sent: Saturday, 2 January 2010 10:53 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] Family Tree Maker 2009 I am just about pulling my hair out with Family Tree Maker 2009! Can anyone on the list tell me how to shortcut having to put all my details when starting a new 'tree'? At the moment I have to put all my information at the beginning.....there must be a way to 'paste' and 'save as' ????????????? I found that I can Rename Tree but the actual tree filename I am renaming is also changed. This is day three with me trying to work it out........if someone can help me please.......maybe off list? philandcolleen@ozemail.com.au Colleen Central Coast NSW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aye, an a happy new year to all Yr right on the spot L.O.L in early days = Loyal Orange Lodge Regards Malcolm Resercher of BUCHANAN of that ilk and STEWART of Ardvorlich

I am just about pulling my hair out with Family Tree Maker 2009! Can anyone on the list tell me how to shortcut having to put all my details when starting a new 'tree'? At the moment I have to put all my information at the beginning.....there must be a way to 'paste' and 'save as' ????????????? I found that I can Rename Tree but the actual tree filename I am renaming is also changed. This is day three with me trying to work it out........if someone can help me please.......maybe off list? philandcolleen@ozemail.com.au Colleen Central Coast NSW

Dear List, A BIG thanks you to all who have replied to my quiry about the FOOTE children - I think I can safely leave out Phyllis' details from the article I am writing. If there is anyone out there who knows anything about John Henry MILLER from Quirindi or James William MILLER from Uralla - I would love to hear your stories about them or any of their families. A Happy & Safe New Year to you all and happy hunting too Glynis Wheeler St Clair, NSW E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay Shepherd" <faylshep@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Children of Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH > Hello Glynis, > NSW bdm indexes can only be searched up to the year 1909, > therefore I have > found only one child. Frederick and Florence Foote had a > daughter named > Florence D. FOOTE born/registered 1907 at Gunnedah, NSW. > Number is > 24664/1907. > Hi Fay For on line birth indexes that is correct.............. However 16 years ago back in 1994 the NSW BDM Registry, published the Federation BDM indexes CD and was on fiche too , to 1918 then a few years later got all thingy with privacy The S AUS births CD goes to 1927 but are no on line indexes at all . WA BDMs are on line with births to 1932 and the earth hasnt disappeared into a 'black hole' Why each State has such differences is one of life's little mysteries bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/name.asp can be helpful sometimes in finding birth dates after 1918

Hello Glynis, NSW bdm indexes can only be searched up to the year 1909, therefore I have found only one child. Frederick and Florence Foote had a daughter named Florence D. FOOTE born/registered 1907 at Gunnedah, NSW. Number is 24664/1907. Narrabri and Gunnedah are about 50/60 kms apart. Hope this helps. Fay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glynis & Scott Wheeler" <glynis.wheeler@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Children of Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH > Happy New Year to you all. > > Would there be sks out there with the NSW BDM index on CD willing to look > up any children born to Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH who were > married in 1906 in Narrabri, please? > > Both parents died whilst the children were still young. > > Many thanks in advance, > Glynis Wheeler > St Clair > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.14030 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Rex, Thank you for this information - I think with this I can rule out Phyllis from what I am doing. Cheers Glynis Wheeler St Clair > > A search shows 3 daughters all born in Gunnedah detailed as follows > Florence D b 24664/1907 > Thelma C b 11748/1915 > Olga I b 8127/1917 > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Glynis, Wouldn't Phylis have been buried with Thelma and Florence if she died the same day as Thelma? She isn't buried in Gunedah cemetery and doesn't appear on NSW BDM index - http://austcemindex.com/cemetery-inscriptions.php?id=477&page=2 I hope someone can find her on the CD for you. Good luck, Trish Nowra NSW > Yes, these are the same ones I have. I, also have a Phylis being born 1912 > & > dying on the 21st Feb 1917 - the same day as Thelma C. The information was > taken from a family bible & I am trying to confirm it before putting the > information into an article I am writing on the descendants of John Hnery > MILLER & Jane JOHNSON for Quirindi. > Glynis Wheeler

Hi Glynis, A search shows 3 daughters all born in Gunnedah detailed as follows Florence D b 24664/1907 Thelma C b 11748/1915 Olga I b 8127/1917 Cheers Rex, Waikanae Beach, NZ -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glynis & Scott Wheeler Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 10:46 p.m. To: AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] Children of Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH Happy New Year to you all. Would there be sks out there with the NSW BDM index on CD willing to look up any children born to Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH who were married in 1906 in Narrabri, please? http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4735 (20100101) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

Hello, I'm just coming across this question, and I was reminded "last year" (last month) that in the US it was the 1920's that women got the "right to vote." And, I found out that they got the right to vote in different years in different countries. I wonder if LOL had something to do with what we have in the US - the "League of Women Voters." I just looked on-line, and, if I'm reading correctly at 5 am (my time), it looks like women got the right to vote in 1902. That's much earlier than the US, and I think English women got the right to vote much later than that, and French women much later. (Saying this from memory from a few weeks ago.) http://labour-movements.suite101.com/article.cfm/australias_unionism_in_the_1900s Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) (In the USA, it took "female activists" 75-100 years to "finally" get the "right to vote.") (I don't know how long it took in other countries. But, I just looked at this site, and it says New Zealand and Australia were the first countries (then Colonies?) to give women the right to vote.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/anthony.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <suee@exemail.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:09 PM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. > >> >> Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? >>>From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have been some kind of >> Womens league.

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This is really great - just in time for the work I am doing on the family trees. Glynis wheeler St Clair > BDM have recognised the new > birth 1909 deah 1979 marr 1959 > christene E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Trish, Yes, these are the same ones I have. I, also have a Phylis being born 1912 & dying on the 21st Feb 1917 - the same day as Thelma C. The information was taken from a family bible & I am trying to confirm it before putting the information into an article I am writing on the descendants of John Hnery MILLER & Jane JOHNSON for Quirindi. Thanks a lot for your effort, I do really appericiate the help you give me. Glynis Wheeler St Clair E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.14030 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Glynis, I don't have the CD, but these were found on the NSW BDM index - Births - 1907 - Florence D. FOOTE, Gunnedah 24664 Deaths - 1915 - Florence D FOOTE, Annandale 6104 1917 - Thelma C FOOTE, Gunnedah 3003 1922 - Frederick K FOOTE, Gunnedah 696 Photographs of headstones - Florence Daphne FOOTE, 7y8m; and Thelma Clare FOOTE, 2y - http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=5316829 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Would there be sks out there with the NSW BDM index on CD willing to look > up any children born to Frederick FOOTE and Florence Alice SMITH who were > married in 1906 in Narrabri, please? > Glynis Wheeler > St Clair

Little Old Lady ?? T in C; betty ----- Original Message ----- From: <suee@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] an early acronym L.O.L. > > A happy New year to all! > > I am taking advantage of a lazy New years day and working on my > grandmothers biography. > > Does anyone know what L.O.L may have stood for in 1920? >>From the newspaper article it sounds like it may have been some kind of > Womens league. > > Cheers > > Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.123/2595 - Release Date: 12/31/09 18:52:00