A big thank you to Leanne for the great photo and information. cheers Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <chrisp52@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Wagga Cemetery > Hi Dorothy, > When I wanted information about burials at Wagga Cemetery, > I > contacted the Wagga Wagga Council this is the link > http://www.wagga.nsw.gov.au/www/html/230-crematorium-and-cemeteries.asp > and > I just sent an e-mail to the contact and someone from the cemetery > e-mailed > me back. I found them very helpful over the years. You can ring them the > details are all there. > > Kind Regards > > Chris > Secret Harbour, WA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Ingram" <ingram@satlink.com.au> > To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:53 AM > Subject: [AUS-NSW] Wagga Cemetery > > > Good Morning List, > > Is there SKS who could check the above cemetery records for my > grandfather, > > Leslie Douglas Leigh PARNELL, died 25th December 1982. I am not sure if he > was buried or cremated, but it took place on the 30th December 1982. > > Also if at all possible would I be able to ask for a photo. > > best wishes > > Dorothy > Melbourne Victoria > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Looking for the Death of Colin W GRAY 23/10/1966 Malabar Sydney looking for newspaper article about his death as he was washed of the rocks Thank you

Does this name SUZANNE LINDEQUE nee SILK mean anything to anyone ? I am trying to trace family of Suzanne SILK born 26 Feb 1878 in Mossel Bay Cape South Africa. I was told she immigrated to Australia ?? or NSW ?? Either she married a Lindeque or was adopted by Lindeque before leaving South Africa. Suzannes father was James Silk & mother Johanna Keown. Her father disappeared & her mother could not manage to look after her because of finances. I would appreciate any help. I am doing the family tree of my husbands line. His grandfather was Suzannes brother David Michael Silk. Many thanks, Lucille LeRoux South Africa

Looking for the Death of Colin W GRAY 23/10/1966 Malabar Sydney looking for newspaper article as he was washed of the rocks Thank you

Hi Leanne, Thank you so much for your reply. I am more than happy to wait for a photo. Thank you Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: Diessel Family To: ingram@satlink.com.au Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: PARNELL burial Hello Dorothy, He is listed as Douglas Leslie Lee PARNELL and he was cremated. Ashes in the Eastern Court (Niches) aged 78 years. I am off to Melbourne on Monday so if you can wait until I get back home I will go and take a photo for you. Regards, Leanne Diessel Research Officer Wagga Wagga & District Family History Society Inc.

Hi Dorothy, When I wanted information about burials at Wagga Cemetery, I contacted the Wagga Wagga Council this is the link http://www.wagga.nsw.gov.au/www/html/230-crematorium-and-cemeteries.asp and I just sent an e-mail to the contact and someone from the cemetery e-mailed me back. I found them very helpful over the years. You can ring them the details are all there. Kind Regards Chris Secret Harbour, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram" <ingram@satlink.com.au> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:53 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Wagga Cemetery Good Morning List, Is there SKS who could check the above cemetery records for my grandfather, Leslie Douglas Leigh PARNELL, died 25th December 1982. I am not sure if he was buried or cremated, but it took place on the 30th December 1982. Also if at all possible would I be able to ask for a photo. best wishes Dorothy Melbourne Victoria

Good Morning List, Is there SKS who could check the above cemetery records for my grandfather, Leslie Douglas Leigh PARNELL, died 25th December 1982. I am not sure if he was buried or cremated, but it took place on the 30th December 1982. Also if at all possible would I be able to ask for a photo. best wishes Dorothy Melbourne Victoria

Greetings listers I now suspect that the Balmain Catholic cemetery may have been used for pauper burials from around 1857 to 1868 does any lister have any knowledge of searching for pauper burials, where the State paid for the burial, has anyone done this kind of search any help most gratefully received Patrick Callaghan

Hi Kevin Have you looked at the website for the newspaper? They have a lot of information about their death and funeral notices.....it also says one of their pages is hosted by ancestry and the Ryerson Index. Maybe you could email them and ask them to look it up for you - otherwise you could get on to the State Library of NSW and ask 'Ask a Librarian' for a lookup, they are fabulous. Annette in Cowra NSW

Thanks Leanne, that's very kind of you. Kevin

Thank you I wonder where they went to!! Mike ________________________________ From: Joan Birtles <joanbirtles@bigpond.com> To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 6 March, 2010 6:53:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] ANDERSON/WALLACE Hi Mike Sorry, couldn't find an Archibald Anderson coming in with any family in NSW as assisted nor into Victoria, assisted or unassisted.  Also the AGCI index did not have any mention of an Archibald Anderson coming into Oz with family. Cheers Joan in NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <casofilia@xtra.co.nz> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] ANDERSON/WALLACE > Hello From New Zealand > > I have lost a family of ANDERSONs and wondered if anyone can help in any > way!! > > The family lived in Eastwood (Renfrew or Lanark) up to 1861 but they all > disappeared before 1871.  I wondered if any or all of them went to New > South Wales? > > Archibald b 1808 > Elizabeth b 1810 > Archibald b 1832 > Andrew b 1844 > > Also a daughter Ann b 1830 but married to a Charles WALLACE.  This couple > may well have had children William b 1853, David b 1855, Elizabeth b 1857 > and Archibald b 1859, all in Glasgow.  Ann may have also had the name > Elizabeth. > > Thanks > > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2725 - Release Date: 03/05/10 19:34:00 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 665 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Annette. I looked at the newspaper's website but found nowhere that let me select a past issue. Maybe I will try the Ask a Librarian service. Bye for now Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Pringle" <iapring@snoopacowra.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] Wagga Wagga Daily Advertiser Lookup > Hi Kevin > > Have you looked at the website for the newspaper? They have a lot of > information about their death and funeral notices.....it also says one of > their pages is hosted by ancestry and the Ryerson Index. > > Maybe you could email them and ask them to look it up for you - otherwise > you could get on to the State Library of NSW and ask 'Ask a Librarian' for > a > lookup, they are fabulous. > > Annette in Cowra NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Paynescrossing ( sorry, don't know your name,but you have replied , I think, to queries I have sent to the NSW Rootsweb List and to the Sedgley List), Thanks for your very comprehensive reply re proof of widowhood. Re Thomas Hampton, who was a Sawyer, I was really just enquiring if anyone knew the bushrangers ancestry.... but I really think our Thomas died before 1858. It is just so frustrating not to know what happened to him. And having vivid imaginations, one tends to think the very unlikely is possible. Hence the question about the bushranger. Thank you both for your replies. I had known of and checked other Thomas Hamptons. His daughter Mary is another mystery....but we may have found her, listed as Mary Hamp marrying William Bishop Ward in Mudgee...We are still investigating that.. Thanks again. Gloria

Hi Jenelle & List Gloria's email mentioned a Thomas HAMPTON but she seems to be asking if the Thomas HAMPTON who was a bushranger is the same as her Thomas HAMPTON. It seems Jenelle has jumped to the conclusion that they were the same person. Is there any evidence for that conclusion? A search of the NLA newspaper site turns up several Thomas HAMPTONs who cannot have been the same person. For example: The Hobart Town Daily Mercury of Monday 28 November 1859 at page 2 carries a report of a murder of one Thomas HAMPTON at Brighton: http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3259406 The Melbourne Argus of Tuesday 5 April 1859 at page 4 carries a report of a inquest into the death of another Thomas HAMPTON who accidently drowned on the 27th March whilst attempting to escape from a "lunatic asylum". Cite: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article5678975 The The Sydney Morning Herald of Wednesday 18 July 1860 at page 4 reports that another Thomas HAMPTON was sentenced to 5 years hard labour at Wollongong Quarter Sessions. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13043166 Perhaps this Thomas HAMPTON is the same person as the person sentenced in 1866 for highway robbery (bushranging) of the Singleton mail; perhaps not. Regards On 4 March 2010 08:01, Jenelle McCarrick <jmac2005@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Gloria > Thomas Hampton got arrested in 1866 and got 8 years, have you checked the > www.records.nsw.gov.au, the newspapers online.  I don't know whether you > really needed to proof to say you were a widow, perhaps she told a little > white lie to cover up the exploits of her husband, she may have remarried in

Would there be anyone who has access to the 11 Apr 2008 edition of the Wagga Wagga Daily Advertiser please? I'm looking for a transcript or copy of funeral and cremation notices for a Ronald Arthur WEBB published on that date. The Ryerson Index cannot help as they have no volunteers for this newspaper for this date. All the best Kevin Normandy, France

Hi Gloria and list Remarriage of a widow or widower: A marriage in New South Wales in 1858 was governed by the Marriage Act 1855 (NSW). This Act commenced its operation on 1 March 1856. Section 4 of the Act required each of the intending parties to sign a declaration (upon oath or a solemn affirmation) in the presence of the religious Minister or, in the case of a civil ceremony, the District Registrar who would be officiating at the ceremony (or a "Surrogate for licenses"). That is, there was no longer a need for the publication of Banns or the grant of a license in ordinary dispensing with the calling of Banns. The form of declaration was set out in a schedule to the Act. Essentially, it required the intending Groom and the Bride to each swear that they believed there was no impediment to the marriage including "lawful objection by reason of ... any former Marriage". If the declaration was falsely sworn or affirmed, the offending party was liable to prosecution for perjury. Of course, bigamous marriages were not unknown. There was substantial dislocation because of the Gold Rush. Have you looked at other States? New Zealand? Wesleyan Methodist Society marriages New South Wales was years ahead of England in granting relief to persons who did not subscribed to the Church of England. In late 1839, the Legislative Council enacted "An Act to remove Doubts as the the Validity of certain Marriages had and solemnized within the Colony of New South Wales by Ministers of the Wesleyan Methodist Society and to regulate the Registration of certain Marriages Baptisms and Burials." This Act confirmed that all Wesleyan marriages performed before and after the passing of the Act were as valid as if they had been performed by Clergymen of the Church of England Presbyterian Ministers or Roman Catholic Priests - Presbyterians and Catholics having been emancipated by earlier laws. In 1840, Congregationalist marriages were similarly confirmed. The Marriage Act 1855 (NSW) consolidated the law: provided that the Minister of Religion who was to celebrate the marriage was registered with the Registrar General for Marriages in Sydney, you were free to choose whatever religious service you wished or have a non-religious ceremony before a District Registrar. Quakers and Jews were exempted the operation of the Act (as they were in England) provided that a marriage certificate was lodged within ten (10) days. Other religious celebrants had to lodged within one month. It isn't unheard of to find a person baptised in one denomination, married in another and buried as another. Why? intermarriage, conversion, social climbing maybe even fashion or convenience? I don't have any figures before me for 1858 but by 1891 the following figures show the percentage of persons of one denomination married to a person of the same denomination in New South Wales (figures from the 1891 Census from a table in Hans Mol "Mixed Marriages in Australia" (1970) 32 (No 2) Journal of Marriage and the Family pp 293-300): Anglican 85.83 Catholic 81.17 Methodist 86.08 Presbyterian 78.75 D. N. Jeans and E. Kofman in their "Religious Adherence and Population Mobility in 19th Century New South Wales" (1972) 10 Australian Geographical Studies pp 193-202 analysed census data to find: "Australia was not an area of active proselytisation in the nineteenth century, except for the small Methodist group. Adherence was relatively stable from census to census, though the Church of England group fell steadily in importance, and it can be suggested that children took the religion of their parents for the most part ... ." According to the Sydney Morning Herald, there was a Wesleyan Chapel in Mudgee from 1853: http://www.smh.com.au/news/New-South-Wales/Mudgee/2005/02/17/1108500197707.html So why was the marriage performed at a private residence? Perhaps someone who knows more about these sects can explain why Methodist marriages were performed in private houses (I've come across a few of these) rather than in Chapel? Is this pointing to a "mixed marriage"? or is it because the parties were regarded as adherents rather than members? I have a 1915 marriage at a Methodist Parsonage but the bride was a divorcee which I have always presumed to be the reason for not having the wedding next door in the church. Was the practice the same for widows/widowers? Regards On 3 March 2010 17:49, Gloria Hargreave <smith-thompson@bigpond.com> wrote: > Could some kind Lister please tell me if when a widow or widower was remarrying ( mid 19th century) would proof of death of previous spouse be required? If so, what? >  We are searching for the death of an ancestor Thomas Hampton between his arrival in Australia in 1855 and his wife remarrying in Mudgee in 1858. We have not found a death registration. >  Another question is ' why would she marry in a private home using a Methodist Minister, when she was supposedly C/E. She remarried twice, once in 1858 and again in 1872. I understand there was an encumbant C/E minister at this time.

Do you have the parents of Frank b1890? and have I already emailed you? My husband's niece has compiled a booklet of Ellis in Australia, but quickly looking through this I cannot find a Frank. William and Mary were from Winscombe Somerset and arrived in Australia 1857 Robin Ellis robin.el@iinet.net.au

Gloria Thomas Hampton got arrested in 1866 and got 8 years, have you checked the www.records.nsw.gov.au, the newspapers online. I don't know whether you really needed to proof to say you were a widow, perhaps she told a little white lie to cover up the exploits of her husband, she may have remarried in the only available residence or with the minister who was passing through the area at the time. Jenelle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gloria Hargreave" <smith-thompson@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:49 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] Proof of widowhood > Could some kind Lister please tell me if when a widow or widower was > remarrying ( mid 19th century) would proof of death of previous spouse be > required? If so, what? > We are searching for the death of an ancestor Thomas Hampton between his > arrival in Australia in 1855 and his wife remarrying in Mudgee in 1858. We > have not found a death registration. > Another question is ' why would she marry in a private home using a > Methodist Minister, when she was supposedly C/E. She remarried twice, once > in 1858 and again in 1872. I understand there was an encumbant C/E > minister at this time. > Can anyone tell me anything about the bushranger Thomas Hampton...his > family origins rather than his exploits, which are well documented. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sorry Annette, didn't think to add my email address. I'll send them for you just in case they mean something to you. Name/Place/State/Country/Date/Event/Source/Held By/Reference Ellis Frank 22 Dec 1935 Aug Qld Chillagoe Death Cemetery Transcript Held by SAG H7/11/23 Part A/P3 Ellis Frank 08 Feb 1938 Aus WA Busselton Cemetery Death Cemetery Transcript Held by WAGS WACEMTRAN 1/002 B06 Ellis Frank Mrs 14 Mar 1945 Aus NSW Kirribilli Unspecified Newspaper SAG NC SER 1/2/170 Ellis Frank - 1951 Fji Suva Marriage Biographical Dictionary SAG J9/3/1963 P72 Ellis Frank 29 Aug 1964 Aus Vic Violet Town Burial Cemetery Transcript GSV CTR10455 P 21 Ellis Frank 06 May 1969 Aus NSW Death SMH SLNSW 7/5/1969 P60 Ellis Frank 12 Apr 1970 Aus SA Death Newspaper SAG NC SER 1/4/435 Ellis Frank 18 Apr 1970 Aus SA In Memoriam Newspaper SAG NC SER 1/4/426 Also under F Ellis Ellis F 1914-18 Aus NSW Cobar Uniting Church In Memoriam Honour Roll/Memoriam SAG B7/11/240 P140 Ellis F 1914-18 Aus NSW Enfield Historical Event Honour Roll/Memoriam Burwood Drummoyne FHG B7136/11/1 Ellis F 1914-18 Aus NSW St Pauls Cobar In memoriam Honour Roll/Memoriam SAG B7/11/240 P139 Ellis F 08 May 1945 Aus WA Bridgetown Cemetery Death Cemetery Transcript WAGS WACEMTRAN 1/005 C02 Hope you find something of interest. Joan joanbirtles@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Pringle" > Hi Joan > > I can't find your email address in your reply, so sorry I have to send it > to > the list. > > There are several in the Ryerson index and also the BDM's, the only > problem > is working out which one he is. I have parents names but there is nothing > to identify him. > > I am going into the Family History so can look at the AGCI fiche there and > save you the trouble. > > Thank you for the tip off. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 663 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Joan I can't find your email address in your reply, so sorry I have to send it to the list. There are several in the Ryerson index and also the BDM's, the only problem is working out which one he is. I have parents names but there is nothing to identify him. I am going into the Family History so can look at the AGCI fiche there and save you the trouble. Thank you for the tip off. Cheers Annette in Cowra NSW iapring@snoopacowra.com