Please John could you send me a copy also, haven't done any research for nearly 10 years and am thoroughly out of date. Roberta, Qld. Hello, It is still there .. same address etc but now rendered virtually unrecognisable ---- it's now just a ONE-LINER. Not the big page with self-explanatory boxes to fill etc. It is now pull-down menu. If you cannot figure it out I'll send a full cook-book style explanation on how to use it step by step. What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know? Cheers, John Byrnes Web: http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com [1] ~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman A" aus-nsw@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:35:40 +1000 Subject:[AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8009 - Release Date: 08/09/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8009 - Release Date: 08/09/14

John Byrnes said: >What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst >thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no >idea why this was done; does anyone else know? I think John that you must have very limited experience with government departments. This is a minor blip on the scale of government stuffups. The implementation was badly botched, but with the return of the District the product we now have is way ahead of what we had two months ago. With a bit more tweaking (such as making the Range Search default YES instead of NO, and getting the SEARCH button to a more visible position), it will again be the most useful of the various state historical BDM sites. With a little thought, you can now extract more from the index than you could on the old site. Try it, I think you'll be surprised. John Graham

How strange - I think it's the best thing they've done in ages - all in the eyes of the beholder and perhaps the user who reads and absorbs the instructions! :-) Mind you, I would add a few extra things in the instructions for some people but otherwise it's fantastic having the true Wildcard back again - at least you get all the entries you should find instead of a tiny percentage of them. Regards .......... Susie Zada -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Little via Sent: Sunday, 10 August 2014 1:41 PM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM John said: "What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know?" My comment is:   Who knows what ridiculous "changes" government departments ever make? Jean

  Hello,   Graham, re "I think John that you must have very limited experience with government departments"  I worked there for decades. And I wasn't just sitting around doing nothing. I'm an information specialist. Specialising in government info in fact --- its means of collection, preservation and later accessibility. Re "This is a minor blip on the scale of  government stuffups"  --- what other ones are you thinking of? Certainly the loss of databased government info in East Germany after the wall fell is a much worse example And of course the Range Search default should be YES instead of NO --- even you realise that .. so why wasn't it I wonder? Cheers,   John   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" aus-nsw@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:53:03 +1000 Subject:Re: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S John Byrnes said: >What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst >thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no >idea why this was done; does anyone else know? I think John that you must have very limited experience with government departments. This is a minor blip on the scale of government stuffups. The implementation was badly botched, but with the return of the District the product we now have is way ahead of what we had two months ago. With a bit more tweaking (such as making the Range Search default YES instead of NO, and getting the SEARCH button to a more visible position), it will again be the most useful of the various state historical BDM sites. With a little thought, you can now extract more from the index than you could on the old site. Try it, I think you'll be surprised. John Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me too..what on earth.. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of norman A via Sent: Sunday, 10 August 2014 1:07 PM To: john.mail@ozemail.com.au; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S John, I`m a dill, send me the step by step recipe please. Norm. -----Original Message----- From: john.mail via Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 12:56 PM To: norman A' [narchibald3@bigpond.com] Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Hello, It is still there .. same address etc but now rendered virtually unrecognisable ---- it's now just a ONE-LINER. Not the big page with self-explanatory boxes to fill etc. It is now pull-down menu. If you cannot figure it out I'll send a full cook-book style explanation on how to use it step by step. What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know? Cheers, John Byrnes Web: http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com [1] ~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman A" aus-nsw@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:35:40 +1000 Subject:[AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I`m a dill, send me the step by step recipe please. Norm. -----Original Message----- From: john.mail via Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 12:56 PM To: norman A' [narchibald3@bigpond.com] Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Hello, It is still there .. same address etc but now rendered virtually unrecognisable ---- it's now just a ONE-LINER. Not the big page with self-explanatory boxes to fill etc. It is now pull-down menu. If you cannot figure it out I'll send a full cook-book style explanation on how to use it step by step. What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know? Cheers, John Byrnes Web: http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com [1] ~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman A" aus-nsw@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:35:40 +1000 Subject:[AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandra, You definitely can do a search with only one spouse - that's the beauty of the reintroduction of the wildcard. Enter surname of one and wildcard (*) in the other. Regards ......... Susie Z -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David and Sandra Bales via Sent: Sunday, 10 August 2014 11:25 AM To: Suzanne England; 'norman A'; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S There are still short-comings. We knew the year of marriage for a couple. It didn't show up in the index until we put in a year range. You need to know both partners' names so if aunt Emily's husband died in the war and you suspect she remarried but don't know the new husband's surname then you can't do a search by just the one partner's name. Sandra Central Coast NSW

There are still short-comings. We knew the year of marriage for a couple. It didn't show up in the index until we put in a year range. You need to know both partners' names so if aunt Emily's husband died in the war and you suspect she remarried but don't know the new husband's surname then you can't do a search by just the one partner's name. Sandra Central Coast NSW Hi Norm, Access seems aok at my end. Perhaps they were down for a short time while they were adding the district information ( which I notice is now online)? Cheers Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm.

Hi Norm, Access seems aok at my end. Perhaps they were down for a short time while they were adding the district information ( which I notice is now online)? Cheers Sue -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of norman A via Sent: Sunday, 10 August 2014 10:36 AM To: aus-nsw@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

  Hello, It is still there .. same address etc but now rendered virtually unrecognisable ---- it's now just a ONE-LINER. Not the big page with self-explanatory boxes to fill etc. It is now pull-down menu. If you cannot figure it out I'll send a full cook-book style explanation on how to use it step by step. What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know?   Cheers,   John Byrnes Web:  http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com [1]     ~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "norman A" aus-nsw@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:35:40 +1000 Subject:[AUS-NSW] NSW BDM`S Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://someinterestingsites.wordpress.com

Could someone on the list please advise why I can`t access the online NSW BDM records ? Have they changed the method of access, or are we now blocked from accessing the BDM`s.? Norm.

Hi As the voluntary coordinator of National Family History Month an initiative of the Australasian Federation of Family History Organisations, one of my tasks is to promote NFHM throughout August. There are some great events happening in NSW plus there are online events to so check out the NFHM web calendar. http://www.familyhistorymonth.org.au/ Also take a look at the NFHM prize sponsors and the great prizes for individuals. http://www.familyhistorymonth.org.au/sponsors How to enter the giveaway prize draw is on the home page. Thanks Shauna Shauna Hicks www.shaunahicks.com.au http://diaryofanaustraliangenealogist.blogspot.com.au

  John said: "What they have done to the BDM database search is perhaps the worst thing I have ever seen any government department do ever --- I've no idea why this was done; does anyone else know?" My comment is:   Who knows what ridiculous "changes" government departments ever make? Jean

*Have you checked out the old newspapers on the Trove. at* *http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper <http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper> for information* *There are often descriptions of weddings * * - I found this in a quick search * *Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal **Friday 31 May 1895* Previous issue <http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/4838897>Friday 31 May 1895 An Early Settler.— - Mr. *MatthewJohn* *Fitzpatrick*, of Merrendee, died at Mudgee on Monday. He was one of thefirst four white men on the field, and hasresided there ever since. He was the son of a captain of the 33rd Regiment, a nephew of the late Dr. Woods, of Parramatta. The deceased, it is said, claimed to be the rightful heir to the Earldom of Ossory, now held by the Marquis of Ormonde. *Empire Monday 16 March 1874* On December 10, at 8 Lawn-terrace, Blackheath, aged 80 year. Saran Louisa, widow of the late *Matthew* *John* Fitz-patrick, Esq., of Queen's County, Ireland, formerly of H.M.S 39th Regiment

Hi Jen, Did you know that you can view on film BDM's up to 1856 when civil regn began. These films can be found at some local libraries...don't know where you are but Parramatta, Newcastle and some local family history societies also have these on film as well as the NSW State Records at Kingswood. However, prior to 1856 there was not much info on these records. Sarah J Maher b 1848 to John & Sarah, Roman Catholic, East Maitland, Maitland; West Maitland; Regn No V1848 1614 Vol 65. Sorry, just realized it was a R/C record so is not available on the above films. However, you could try the Mitchell Library, Sydney films as I think some R/C churches are available there....another lister may be able to verify this as it's many years since I viewed films at the Mitchell Library. The above may help if looking for any further BDM's other than R/C though. Cheers Joan Just hoping there maybe someone on the list who can claim or assist with a Birth entry in the NSW BDMs. I have ordered the certificate however it will take 'up to 8 weeks' for it to be scanned. I am hoping this entry may be that of a sister of my elusive 'John MAHER' - supposedly born at West Maitland c. 1846. The details from the BDM entry are: MAHER, Sarah J; Parents John and Sarah Registration year: 1848; No 'District' noted. Any suggestions or assistance very much appreciated. Jen --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Judy, and to the lists, Many thanks for your response. After more than 40 years of dedicated research we have absolutely no idea who our ‘John Maher’ is, or where he / his parents came from. However I cannot pass from the possibility that he may have been connected to your sister Elizabeth. I simply don't know. When did your Elizabeth arrive / Ship etc? I would appreciate if you and others would have the time to read through the details below - just with the slightest chance you may recognise a connection as you go about your personal searches. There are several 'trees' on Ancestry that have picked up /copied incorrect information. I trust these details assist. Our 'John Maher' was supposedly born in West Maitland c.1846 – no parents names or birth entry for him yet verified. To compound the issue it is possible that at some time he used the alias ‘John Clark’. John Maher's only known son was born to Anne Jane Toohey on 29th May 1881, at Thornborough on the Hodgkinson Goldfield [North Queensland]. The child’s name was registered as John Henry MAHER with the father stating that he was a miner on the Tinaroo Mining Field [near Herberton NQ] and that he was born in 'West Maitland, NSW'. The birth was registered at the Courthouse in Herberton, NQ. Anne Jane Toohey died of septicaemia on 16th June 1881 two weeks after John Henry Maher was born. The baby was raised by Patrick and Mary Anne TRACEY of Herberton and later John and Catherine TRACEY SPEIRS (Patrick and Mary Anne's married daughter) and subsequently used the name 'John Henry Tracey'. He died in Brisbane on 29th August 1950. John Maher’s two daughters to Anne Jane TOOHEY were Margaret (b.1875 Georgetown, NQ) and Sarah Jane (b.1879 Thornborough, NQ). These girls also bore the surname MAHER although Anne Jane Toohey and John Maher never married. When Anne Jane Toohey died, the two young girls were sent to the infamous St Joseph's Orphanage, at Bucasia, Mackay where the incidence of malaria and was attributed as the cause of death of many of the children. Bucasia's only water supply was from a well and outbreaks of typhoid were frequent due to the contamination of underground water by the proximity of pit toilets. Children removed from Bucasia to a new orphanage at Stanwell near Rockhampton on 22nd December 1885 [also known as Meteor Park and Neerkol] included Margaret Maher and her sister, Sarah Jane Maher, referred to various reports as being in a 'very critical state'. Sarah Jane was eventually removed to the Children's Hospital, Rockhampton where she died at the age of 9 years, on 4th May 1886. Margaret Maher survived and was ‘Sent into Service’ at the age of 12 years, on 16th July 1888, to work for John William CARROLL, a Watchmaker, of Townsville and his wife Eugenie. No further evidence - death / marriage etc. has been found for her. It is possible that our 'John Maher' was the person who was working as a 'bushman' on Green Hills Station near Cumberland via Georgetown NQ when he died of congestion of the lungs on 17th June 1887. Following detailed investigations, this death is considered most plausibly to be that of John Maher (Clarke) father of John Henry Maher. His death certificate states that this John Maher was aged 41 years, '20 years in Queensland' and that he was born in 'Maitland, NSW’. No information is provided regarding his parents or next of kin. The burial is noted as being at Cumberland, via Georgetown. The informant for the death certificate was 'Henry C. Seckington, Storeman of Cumberland'. Green Hills Station was taken up by O'Brien and Wilson in 1876. The owners of the property in the period 1879 - 1887 were O'Brien, Hunt and Steele. The most important point of reference in Seckington's information is "Maitland, NSW". Although there is a three-year discrepancy in Maher's age when related back to the statement provided by Anne Jane Toohey 1875 at the birth of their daughter Margaret, this is not unusual for Death Certificates. When John Maher registered the birth of his son, John Henry in November 1881, he stated that his age was 38 years, which would technically make his age at death 44 years - a perpetuance of the three-year discrepancy. John Henry Maher (the baby) was raised by Patrick and Mary Anne TRACEY of Herberton and later John and Catherine TRACEY SPEIRS (Patrick and Mary Anne's married daughter) and he subsequently used the name 'John Henry Tracey'. He died in Brisbane on 29th August 1950. John Henry MAHER TRACEY is my husband's grandfather. Anne Jane TOOHEY, prior to the commencement of her relationship with John MAHER c.1873, was the de-facto wife of Donald Angus McPHERSON, a publican at Cardwell NQ and later a blacksmith and publican at Georgetown, NQ. (McPherson had been married in Liverpool, England, on 5th June 1862, to a 'Margaret CAMERON' for whom no record including immigration record, has been subsequently located). Apologies for this being a bit involved, however, just letting all know that this massive 'brick wall' of mine remains steadfast, despite all efforts. Your thoughts and comments and advice, as always, much appreciated. Jen Dr. Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA(ANU);M.APP.SC.(UC); PhD (UC); MPHA; Archaeologist ~ Historian PO Box 629 Morayfield, Queensland 4506 AUSTRALIA Email: jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au **************************************************************************** ***************************************************** From: Judy [mailto:judejc@bigpond.com] Sent: 08 August 2014 09:53 To: 'Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey'; aus-nsw@rootsweb.com; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [AUS-NSW] MAHER researchers in NSW /Qld - assistance please. Hi Jen Are your Mahers originally from County Carlow? I have an Elizabeth Maher in my tree. It is believed she travelled to Australia with her brother. Judy -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey via Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014 9:32 AM To: AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] MAHER researchers in NSW /Qld - assistance please. Just hoping there maybe someone on the list who can claim or assist with a Birth entry in the NSW BDMs. I have ordered the certificate however it will take 'up to 8 weeks' for it to be scanned. I am hoping this entry may be that of a sister of my elusive 'John MAHER' - supposedly born at West Maitland c. 1846. The details from the BDM entry are: MAHER, Sarah J; Parents John and Sarah Registration year: 1848; No 'District' noted. Any suggestions or assistance very much appreciated. Jen   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7996 - Release Date: 08/07/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7995 - Release Date: 08/06/14

Hi Jen Are your Mahers originally from County Carlow? I have an Elizabeth Maher in my tree. It is believed she travelled to Australia with her brother. Judy -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dr Jennifer Lambert Tracey via Sent: Friday, 8 August 2014 9:32 AM To: AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com; aus-qld@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW] MAHER researchers in NSW /Qld - assistance please. Just hoping there maybe someone on the list who can claim or assist with a Birth entry in the NSW BDMs. I have ordered the certificate however it will take 'up to 8 weeks' for it to be scanned. I am hoping this entry may be that of a sister of my elusive 'John MAHER' - supposedly born at West Maitland c. 1846. The details from the BDM entry are: MAHER, Sarah J; Parents John and Sarah Registration year: 1848; No 'District' noted. Any suggestions or assistance very much appreciated. Jen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7996 - Release Date: 08/07/14 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7995 - Release Date: 08/06/14

Just hoping there maybe someone on the list who can claim or assist with a Birth entry in the NSW BDMs. I have ordered the certificate however it will take 'up to 8 weeks' for it to be scanned. I am hoping this entry may be that of a sister of my elusive 'John MAHER' - supposedly born at West Maitland c. 1846. The details from the BDM entry are: MAHER, Sarah J; Parents John and Sarah Registration year: 1848; No 'District' noted. Any suggestions or assistance very much appreciated. Jen

Hi All, I am trying to trace a William CAMPBELL who was a witness at my gt grandparents marriage, in the Wellington, NSW, area. William ( along with a Richard TURNER) was witness to the marriage of Matthew FTZPATRICK and Sabina GADE in 1857. I am trying to pin down more closely the whereabouts of Matthew and Sabina at the time of marriage, as well as verifying some information in a hand written document that has been passed on down the family line. The possibility is that they may have been around the village of Burrandong working with William and Richard. Many thanks for any help, Cheers Sue

----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Connell via" <aus-nsw@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-NSW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW] William James Fowler > Hi Listers. > > On his army records he lists his date of birth and 10 March > 1915 and > next of kin Lewis Fowler. > > Can any please confirm is birth date and parentage. > > Also a death possibly in Wingham NSW. > He lived up near Lismore , quite a bit further north than Wingham ( nr Taree). In addition to what Joan listed....... he also left a will # 4- 649980 Copy would be out at NSW State Records Kingswood Indexes to NSW BDMs have been on line for years Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast