Maurie The actual figure for RAAF fatalities in the War against Germany is 5117. The official histories for WW2 are online at the Australian War Memorial and Appendix 7 of the final Army volume has some statistics at: http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/23/chapters/31.pdf Anthony Staunton -----Original Message----- From: Maurie [mailto:henery1@tpg.com.au] Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 7:32 PM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force Read a book recently which said that 3,500 Australian Airmen were lost over Europe during WWII (included those serving with the RAAF and RAF. Book said that approximately 50,000 Allied Airmen were lost over Europe during WWII. Maurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@aapt.net.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > "RAAF lost 5,000 men over Germany." > > Do you mean RAF, Ted? > > Lindsay Graham > Canberra, Australia > ----------------------------------- > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list, so that all may benefit from > the discussion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted HARRIS" <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:29 AM > Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > > > > G'day again. > > Very few Aussies understand the HUGE input we had to the RAF in WW2. Even > > when Japan attacked us here we did not need the huge numbers of aircrew > > that > > were needed in Europe. > > > > Here the numbers of planes on both sides was fairly small by world war > > standards and the distances made aircraft carried on ships a better option > > in many cases. > > > > In Europe where they were sending "1,000 Bomber Raids" at night, every > > night > > (Royal Air Force) and "1,000 Bomber Raids" during the day, every day > > (United > > States Army Air Force) plus fighters plus Recon. plus Delivery Flights > > plus > > Coastal Command the demand for pilots and aircrew was staggering. So were > > the losses. RAAF lost 5,000 men over Germany. > > > > It is a section of our Military History that is often glossed over. "The > > Few" saved Britain and I love them for it. The "Heavy Boys" who flew the > > Lancasters and the Wellingtons and the Liberators etc saved the world and > > get forgotten. > > > > I try to set the record straight with www.diggerhistory2.info where I > > reproduce 4 books about the RAAF in WW2. > > > > Thousands of Aussies, EnZedders, Canadians, South Africans and Rhodesians > > trained in Canada for the Empire Air Training Scheme and were posted to > > RAF, > > RAAF, RCAF units without much regard to nationality. > > > > The man credited with being the single most "important" part of Britain > > winning the Battle of Britain was a Kiwi. > > http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-heroes/keith_park.htm > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Ted Harris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Leanne Baulch" <lea.dave@cairns.net.au> > > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:15 PM > > Subject: WW2-Air Force > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> During WW2 many Aus Air Force people flew missions with the British. Why? > > This is just my lack of knowledge coming through here. My great uncle flew > > around 22 missions with the British which surprised me. > >> > >> Also why could they not keep their log books? > >> For some reason my great uncle did and hopefully in the next few weeks I > > will get to seeit. Should I take photos of the log book? I really feel > > this > > log book is important. > >> > >> Thankyou > >> Kind regards > >> Leanne Baulch > >> Canberra > >> > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/06 > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== Please support RootsWeb who make this list possible http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html
Thank you, I'll have at look at the site. Maurie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Staunton" <anthony.staunton@pcug.org.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > Maurie > > The actual figure for RAAF fatalities in the War against Germany is 5117. > The official histories for WW2 are online at the Australian War Memorial and > Appendix 7 of the final Army volume has some statistics at: > http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/23/chapters/31.pdf > > Anthony Staunton > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maurie [mailto:henery1@tpg.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 8 May 2006 7:32 PM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > > Read a book recently which said that 3,500 Australian Airmen were lost over > Europe during WWII (included those serving with the RAAF and RAF. > > Book said that approximately 50,000 Allied Airmen were lost over Europe > during WWII. > > Maurie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lindsay Graham" <LDGraham@aapt.net.au> > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > > > > "RAAF lost 5,000 men over Germany." > > > > Do you mean RAF, Ted? > > > > Lindsay Graham > > Canberra, Australia > > ----------------------------------- > > Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list, so that all may benefit from > > the discussion. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ted HARRIS" <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> > > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:29 AM > > Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: WW2-Air Force > > > > > > > G'day again. > > > Very few Aussies understand the HUGE input we had to the RAF in WW2. > Even > > > when Japan attacked us here we did not need the huge numbers of aircrew > > > that > > > were needed in Europe. > > > > > > Here the numbers of planes on both sides was fairly small by world war > > > standards and the distances made aircraft carried on ships a better > option > > > in many cases. > > > > > > In Europe where they were sending "1,000 Bomber Raids" at night, every > > > night > > > (Royal Air Force) and "1,000 Bomber Raids" during the day, every day > > > (United > > > States Army Air Force) plus fighters plus Recon. plus Delivery Flights > > > plus > > > Coastal Command the demand for pilots and aircrew was staggering. So > were > > > the losses. RAAF lost 5,000 men over Germany. > > > > > > It is a section of our Military History that is often glossed over. "The > > > Few" saved Britain and I love them for it. The "Heavy Boys" who flew the > > > Lancasters and the Wellingtons and the Liberators etc saved the world > and > > > get forgotten. > > > > > > I try to set the record straight with www.diggerhistory2.info where I > > > reproduce 4 books about the RAAF in WW2. > > > > > > Thousands of Aussies, EnZedders, Canadians, South Africans and > Rhodesians > > > trained in Canada for the Empire Air Training Scheme and were posted to > > > RAF, > > > RAAF, RCAF units without much regard to nationality. > > > > > > The man credited with being the single most "important" part of Britain > > > winning the Battle of Britain was a Kiwi. > > > http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-heroes/keith_park.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Ted Harris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Leanne Baulch" <lea.dave@cairns.net.au> > > > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 3:15 PM > > > Subject: WW2-Air Force > > > > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> > > >> During WW2 many Aus Air Force people flew missions with the British. > Why? > > > This is just my lack of knowledge coming through here. My great uncle > flew > > > around 22 missions with the British which surprised me. > > >> > > >> Also why could they not keep their log books? > > >> For some reason my great uncle did and hopefully in the next few weeks > I > > > will get to seeit. Should I take photos of the log book? I really feel > > > this > > > log book is important. > > >> > > >> Thankyou > > >> Kind regards > > >> Leanne Baulch > > >> Canberra > > >> > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/06 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Please support RootsWeb who make this list possible > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is happening. > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/312 - Release Date: 14/04/06 > >