Jenny I believe there was a "restricted" form of conscription in the 50's. This was in addition to those who wished to join the Citizen's Military Forces ( CMF - sorta like today's Army Reserve). CMF commitment was, from memory, a Tuesday night parade, with some training, a weekend a month and an annual camp of 16 days. The "restricted" conscription of the day was full time but I don't think it was for two years. I'm probably wrong but think it was for six months. Maurie ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Conscription circa 1958 > Hello folks, > > Can anyone give me some leads on conscription in the late 1950s? > My father said he was conscripted as a young man but policies changed before he actually signed up. He was born in 1938 so I'm thinking it must have been around when he was 20 as my mother was married to him by 1960 and knows nothing of this part of his life. > > I realise that records may not exist but can anyone enlighten me a little further? I've looked at the AWM site and NAA but would like some advice on how to narrow the search. > > Jenny > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is happening. > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 8/05/06 > >

>You may need to write to the Army Records people in Canberra to see if you >can get his file. I would expect that his file is still with the Defence >Department because of the 75 year rule with Archives. There is no 75 year rule with Archives; with few exceptions records are released after 30 years. There is a form on their website for accessing post WW II personal records. Go to: www.naa.gov.au Ric Pelvin

Jenny That was the old CMF progrgam of the 1950's. I think all young men at 21 years of age where called up. You may need to talk to the Army reserve Unit that is nearest to where yourt father was living in the 1950's. He would have a FILE and we on the Roll or Pay books for that Unit. During the 1950's my late father used to go every Tuesday night on the Tweed River and it is was aa part of life. When we got older my sister and Iwould help my mother make the tea for after the parade. You may need to write to the Army Records people in Canberra to see if you can get his file. I would expect that his file is still with the Defence Department because of the 75 year rule with Archives. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Conscription circa 1958 > Hello folks, > > Can anyone give me some leads on conscription in the late 1950s? > My father said he was conscripted as a young man but policies changed > before he actually signed up. He was born in 1938 so I'm thinking it must > have been around when he was 20 as my mother was married to him by 1960 > and knows nothing of this part of his life. > > I realise that records may not exist but can anyone enlighten me a little > further? I've looked at the AWM site and NAA but would like some advice on > how to narrow the search. > > Jenny > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please > check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is > happening. >

Hello folks, Can anyone give me some leads on conscription in the late 1950s? My father said he was conscripted as a young man but policies changed before he actually signed up. He was born in 1938 so I'm thinking it must have been around when he was 20 as my mother was married to him by 1960 and knows nothing of this part of his life. I realise that records may not exist but can anyone enlighten me a little further? I've looked at the AWM site and NAA but would like some advice on how to narrow the search. Jenny

> Dear Helen, > > Greetings from Townsville, North Queensland............. > > I sincerely trust you see this POST! > > Unfortunately, I seem to have lost [maybe I should admit that I have > accidentally deleted] all reference to your original message via the > AUS-MILITARY Mailing List. > > Would appreciate your confirmation that you have in fact sighted this > E-mail. > > Ubique > > Eldon Bryant............ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: North Fort Home of the National Artillery Museum > To: Eldon R. J. Bryant > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:40 AM > Subject: PART 2 OF EMAIL DATED 3 MAY 06 > > > Eldon, > > Please find information for Helen? no surname given. > > > Reference: > > Squad Book for the use of officers and Non Commissioned Officers of the > Volunteer Force New South wales Artillery. > > Extract: > > April 12th 1876 > > Registry Number 20: Gunner Stephen Lawler > Date of Joining: 8/8/1871 > Age: 26 Years 5 Months > Height: 5 feet 9 1/2 inches > Trade: Blacksmith > Discharged by Purchase: 2/8/1875 > > Pre - Federation military records are held at the Australian war > memeorial - AWM1- Pre-Federation and Commonwealth records. > > We have no further records > > > Regards > > > Steve Crawford > WO > Defence Operations Manager & > Collections Manager > RAA National Museum > > 18 May 2006

Hello to the List While photographing headstones in Sandgate Cemetery Newcastle I came upon this headstone It maybe of interest to someone Semper Paratus Br Henry Smethurst NSW A Who died 11 Dec 1885 Aged 31 years Erected by his comrades as a token of respect The top of the stone has the Artillery Gun and the stone is of white marble I can send the image if anyone wanted it Regards John Shirley & John Smith Maitland Area Lower Hunter Valley NSW Australia

Dear Helen, Greetings from Townsville, North Queensland............. I sincerely trust you see this POST! Unfortunately, I seem to have lost [maybe I should admit that I have accidentally deleted] all reference to your original message via the AUS-MILITARY Mailing List. Would appreciate your confirmation that you have in fact sighted this E-mail. Ubique Eldon Bryant............ ----- Original Message ----- From: North Fort Home of the National Artillery Museum To: Eldon R. J. Bryant Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: PART 2 OF EMAIL DATED 3 MAY 06 Eldon, Please find information for Helen? no surname given. Reference: Squad Book for the use of officers and Non Commissioned Officers of the Volunteer Force New South wales Artillery. Extract: April 12th 1876 Registry Number 20: Gunner Stephen Lawler Date of Joining: 8/8/1871 Age: 26 Years 5 Months Height: 5 feet 9 1/2 inches Trade: Blacksmith Discharged by Purchase: 2/8/1875 Pre - Federation military records are held at the Australian war memeorial - AWM1- Pre-Federation and Commonwealth records. We have no further records Regards Steve Crawford WO Defence Operations Manager & Collections Manager RAA National Museum 18 May 2006

>Good afternoon: > >My British ancestor, my father's brother joined the Royal Navy in 1901. I >have his records. It states that he RUN 8 May 1902, Sydney, Australia. >Does RUN mean that he jumped ship or he was transferred, etc. RUN means jumped ship, deserted. Ric Pelvin

Hi Everyone, I wonder if there are any sleuths out there who can help. I have a small unidentifed Honour Roll in a museum collection where I am cataloguing. You can see it at http://static.flickr.com/53/150274870_6edee6efc9_o.jpg All things being equal, it should be from somewhere in Central Gippsland, Maybe. The names are: Chas. R. Carter R.W.Farrer W.R.F.Robinson J.B.Wilson J.H.Wapling F.V.Wines O.Wines P.A.Wines R.S.Wines Three of the Wines are born around Mailor's Flat/Woodford, Chas. R. Carter appears to be born at Woodford too, and I cannot easily find the others. So that is around Warrnambool, on the other side of the state. Any clues, anyone????? Thanks! Linda

RNZAF deaths in WWII were 4149, and the official history "New Zealanders in the RAF" Volume II page 9 says that there were just under 11,000 New Zealanders with the RAF of whom 3290 or nearly one third lost their lives. See the history online: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2-2RAF.html The Empire Air Training Scheme was for training Aircrew not ground staff, so were likely to have a high casualty rate. There were also a number of New Zealanders flying with the Fleet Air Arm (FAA). Yours, John Wilson

Total RAAF enlistments during the Second World War were 189,700 men and 27,000 women. RAAF casualties by areas were: Theatre of Ops Killed or died Injured Total Europe 5,397 947 6,344 Middle East 1,135 413 1,548 Canada 147 55 202 India-Burma 242 89 331 Far East 136 44 180 South West Pacific 3,342 1,614 4,956 Other areas 163 30 193 Totals 10,562 3,192 13,754 Cheers, Ted Harris

I know that taking part in this list always returns more than you invest. Some time ago I mentioned that I had put the Chic Sale booklet, "The Specialist" onto the Web. To my surprise 3 List members have a copy and others had read it. Even more of a surprise was a message from Linda Barraclough about an Australian written "answer" to the booklet called "The Amateur". Linda was kind enough to provide a copy so I have added it to the WWW. http://www.diggerhistory3.info/specialist/the_amateur.htm Enjoy Cheers, Ted Harris

G'day John. You might very well be correct. However, well documented cases of Japanese officers having competitions to see how many Chinese prisoners they could behead in a given time, with the record standing at just over 250 seems a little beyond a general order from the boss. The Rape of Nanking was not just a bump in the road. The massacre of 50,000 Chinese civilians in Singapore was not a local oversight of the rules. Let me ask this. If the Prime Minister (Helen Clarke in your case, John Howard in mine) said, "OK it is acceptable for you to go next door and slaughter the people who live there", would you immediately get out a butchers knife? I think not. (and remember in WW1 the Japanese were allied to Britain and desperately trying to imitate her.) Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilson" <hugo@actrix.gen.nz> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Treatment of Allied POWS of the Japanese > Hi All: > > I think that the WWII mistreatment of Allied POWs by the Japanese was not > due to any inherent or national traits, but to the takeover of Japan by the > militarists like General > Tojo in the 1930s. > > Gavan Dawes in "Prisoners of the Japanese: POWs of World War II in the > Pacific" > (1994, Chapter II page 96f) says that in the Russo-Japanese War (1904-05), > WWI (German prisoners), and post-WWI in Siberia the Japanese were very > correct in > treating their prisoners according to the 1907 Hague Convention, which they > had signed. In Siberia an IRC member gave top marks for the treatment of > prisoners to > two nations, the United States and Japan. > > In 1929 the Japanese at Geneva signed but did not ratify a new (Geneva) > convention on POWs. But the Japanese Foreign Minister said at the beginning > of the Pacific War that they would act in accordance with the Geneva > Convention "except where it conflicted with existing Japanese policies". > This included making prisoners sign a non-escape oath, which was against the > Geneva Convention. > > But General Tojo the Prime Minister - and Army Minister - gave orders that > the offers in charge of POW camps were to be strict and rigid. And the area > or local commanders had practically unrestricted say over the POWs. > > Yours, John Wilson > > > > I find it ironic that Australia and Australians still have difficulty in > > coming to grips with the fact that Asian people do not see life through > the > > same prism as Anglo Saxons in particular or Europeans in general. > > > > In many ways they are different. Note the word DIFFERENT. Not better, not > > worse....different. > > > > Go live amongst them, as I have done. All will be revealed. > > > > Their religion/s are different and mostly embrace fast reincarnation after > > death. (So death is not as important to them). > > They have a different attitude to family and the responsibilities that > come > > with a family. (Retreat is a stain on the character of the entire family > for > > ever through eternity to them, a military necessity sometimes, to us) > > They have a different attitude to wealth. (Throughout Asia the most > > incredible poverty lives side by side with the most incredible wealth). > > > > Why then do we find it difficult to understand that their approach to war > > is different. Dying for the Emperor was their way. Killing the enemy in > the name > > of our King was our way. A wounded soldier was a nuisance was their way. > > A wounded man required special treatment was our way. > > > > Being a POW was a matter of shame to them. Being a POW was a matter of bad > > luck to us. > Killing an enemy POW was 'normal' to them. Killing an enemy > POW > > was against all our rules and nature/s. > > > > Sinking hospital ships, beheading prisoners, slaughtering civilians, using > > POWs as bayonet dummies, indeed even starting the war in the Pacific with > a > > sneak raid while protesting total abhorrence for war at the political > level > > are all things that are on the record as proven fact. None of those things > > wore the Australian Rising Sun badge. > > >

Gidday Jan, Maurie and others, The author of "HMAS Sydney-Fact, Fantasy and Fraud", asked me to pass on the following:- ----------------------------- Dear Peter, Thanks for the email. You might pass on to Jan Thomas the following references. Barbara Winter, The Intrigue Master, Boolarong, Moorooka, Qld, 1995. (pp. 231-232. and Chapter 31, Endnote 24) Christopher Milligan and John Foley: Centaur: The Myth of Immunity: Nairana Publications, Hendra, Qld, 1993. These are, of course, publicly available. My main source, which would be more difficult to access, is in NARA (National Archives and Record Administration), Washington: RG457: SRH-323: Combat Intell. on Hospital Ships, 1943-45. Barbara --------------------------- Regards Peter Dunn "Australia @ War" http://www.ozatwar.com Over 650 Mbytes of Military home pages about Australia during WW2 Now also available on CD-Rom DISCUSSION LISTS Military Aircraft Crashes in Australia during WW2 OzCrashes-subscribe@topica.com 460 Squadron RAAF 460sqdn-subscribe@topica.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Maurie [mailto:henery1@tpg.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 13 May 2006 3:25 PM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Montevideo Maru > > Thank you. One of the books re the loss of the "Sydney" which > I, personally, found to be the most credible was - "HMAS > Sydney-Fact, Fantasy and Fraud" > by Barbara Winter. I guess the shock of losing "Sydney" was > too enormous to contemplate unless there was some "skull > duggery" involved. Winter's research is in depth and > supported by various records still available today. > Where she states an "opinion" her backgrounding of the > possible decisions, including what may have > pressured/prompted the decision maker is excellent. > In particular the reason why Capt. Joe Burnett may have > approached too closely and without any seeming suspicion that > his opponent was the "Kormoran". It is hard to accept but I > believe "Sydney" was bested by a better prepared, trained and > experienced foe. > > Maurie > > The attitude of the IJN toward Hospital ships appears to be > ambivalent. They sank the "Centaur" but illuminated the > Hospital ship in Milne Bay and did not fire on it. Perhaps > all were not barbarians. > > Maurie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Staunton" <anthony.staunton@pcug.org.au> > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] Montevideo Maru > > > > Maurie > > > > Do not worry - being picky is quite OK. > > > > Thank you, Maritime is more accurate. However, I was > thinking in terms of > > reports that gave the impression that the loss of HMAS > Sydney was the > > greatest loss of Australian life at sea. > > > > Anthony > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Maurie [mailto:henery1@tpg.com.au] > > Sent: Saturday, 13 May 2006 11:15 AM > > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Hospital Ships > > > > Being picky here. "Montevideo Maru" was a Japanese vessel. > ( uncertain as > to > > whether or it was even IJN). The bulk of those Australian Service > personnel > > killed were Army. Therefore "Sydney" was the worst NAVAL disaster. > > "Montevideo Maru" may have been the worst MARITIME disaster > involving the > > loss of life for Australian Servic personnel. This does not > make it the > > worst NAVAL disaster. > > > > Maurie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Anthony Staunton" <anthony.staunton@pcug.org.au> > > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:43 AM > > Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] Hospital Ships > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > You are probably correct. Jan may have been referring to > Australian POWs > > in > > > unmarked Japanese ships sunk by US submarines. > > > > > > On 1 July 1942 the Montevideo Maru was sunk with no > survivors among the > > 1200 > > > Australian soldiers and civilians captured at Rabaul. > There were more > > > sinkings in 1944 but there were survivors picked up by US > submarines. > One > > of > > > Don Wall's books was on the sinkings. The official > history which is > online > > > mentions the ships. > > > See: http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/20/chapters/25.pdf > > > > > > Anthony Staunton > > > > > > PS You often see reference to the loss of HMAS Sydney as > Australia's > > > greatest naval tragedy but that sad honour belongs to the > Montevideo > Maru. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike Boyd [mailto:mikejboyd@bigpond.com] > > > Sent: Saturday, 13 May 2006 8:33 AM > > > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Hospital Ships > > > > > > Jan > > > When was working in Rabul in the 1960's, it was said that > a number of > > POW's > > > were put on ships to Japan and were never seen again. > > > > > > I can't recall what period this was in the War - 1943 or > so I think > after > > > being told 40 years ago. So ships like this could have > been sunk by the > > > Allies without even knowing that there were POW's on board.. > > > > > > It was also said that a number of POW's were still buried > in the Tunnels > > in > > > Rabul. On my first day in Rabul, I was told do not go > into the tunnels > as > > > we do not have any maps of where they go. > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > > Brisbane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Anthony Staunton" <anthony.staunton@pcug.org.au> > > > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:27 PM > > > Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] Hospital Ships > > > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > What are the allegations that the allies attacked > Japanese hospital > > ships. > > > > > > > > It seems unlikely since Japan did not have ships that were > > internationally > > > > recognised as hospital ships along the lines of the Centaur. The > Centaur > > > > was > > > > painted white, had large red crosses on its sides, was > illuminated at > > > > night, > > > > carried casualties and medical supplies but no war material. > > > > > > > > I do not think that evacuation of casualties had a high > priority in > > > > Japanese > > > > war plans. > > > > > > > > Anthony Staunton > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jan Thomas [mailto:jthomas4@bigpond.net.au] > > > > Sent: Friday, 12 May 2006 8:40 PM > > > > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: [AUS-MIL] Hospital Ships > > > > > > > > Can anyone refer me to any factual information on the > allegation that > > > > the Allies attacked Japanese hospital ships during WW2? > Any help > > > > much appreciated. > > > > > > > > Jan Thomas > > > > on the banks of the beautiful Hawkesbury River > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > > > RAAF Museum > > > http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release > Date: 8/05/06 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the > list. Please > > check your replies before sending, to make sure that is > what you know is > > happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > > RAAF Museum > > http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release > Date: 8/05/06 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html >

Hi All: I think that the WWII mistreatment of Allied POWs by the Japanese was not due to any inherent or national traits, but to the takeover of Japan by the militarists like General Tojo in the 1930s. Gavan Dawes in “Prisoners of the Japanese: POWs of World War II in the Pacific” (1994, Chapter II page 96f) says that in the Russo-Japanese War (1904-05), WWI (German prisoners), and post-WWI in Siberia the Japanese were very correct in treating their prisoners according to the 1907 Hague Convention, which they had signed. In Siberia an IRC member gave top marks for the treatment of prisoners to two nations, the United States and Japan. In 1929 the Japanese at Geneva signed but did not ratify a new (Geneva) convention on POWs. But the Japanese Foreign Minister said at the beginning of the Pacific War that they would act in accordance with the Geneva Convention “except where it conflicted with existing Japanese policies”. This included making prisoners sign a non-escape oath, which was against the Geneva Convention. But General Tojo the Prime Minister – and Army Minister – gave orders that the offers in charge of POW camps were to be strict and rigid. And the area or local commanders had practically unrestricted say over the POWs. Yours, John Wilson > I find it ironic that Australia and Australians still have difficulty in > coming to grips with the fact that Asian people do not see life through the > same prism as Anglo Saxons in particular or Europeans in general. > > In many ways they are different. Note the word DIFFERENT. Not better, not > worse....different. > > Go live amongst them, as I have done. All will be revealed. > > Their religion/s are different and mostly embrace fast reincarnation after > death. (So death is not as important to them). > They have a different attitude to family and the responsibilities that come > with a family. (Retreat is a stain on the character of the entire family for > ever through eternity to them, a military necessity sometimes, to us) > They have a different attitude to wealth. (Throughout Asia the most > incredible poverty lives side by side with the most incredible wealth). > > Why then do we find it difficult to understand that their approach to war > is different. Dying for the Emperor was their way. Killing the enemy in the name > of our King was our way. A wounded soldier was a nuisance was their way. > A wounded man required special treatment was our way. > > Being a POW was a matter of shame to them. Being a POW was a matter of bad > luck to us. > Killing an enemy POW was 'normal' to them. Killing an enemy POW > was against all our rules and nature/s. > > Sinking hospital ships, beheading prisoners, slaughtering civilians, using > POWs as bayonet dummies, indeed even starting the war in the Pacific with a > sneak raid while protesting total abhorrence for war at the political level > are all things that are on the record as proven fact. None of those things > wore the Australian Rising Sun badge. >

Thankyou to all who provided correspondence across all areas of interest during my subscription period. My work has taken abroad for the interim period and therefore I wish to un subscribe till I return / further notice. Regards to all. Craig Clarke

I would like to thank those who have helped me find my way through Australian records. I have enjoyed reading the mail about all sorts of aspects of Military history but as I am going away I will unsubscribe. Thanks for all your help. Regards Susan Dwyer

I used that site as the basis of http://www.diggerhistory2.info/graveyards/pages/others/russian.htm Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wilson" <hugo@actrix.gen.nz> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:12 AM Subject: Russian Anzacs in Australian History > Russian Anzacs in Australian History. > Military records, biography, genealogy. Personal web pages of one > thousand Russian-born servicemen who served in the Australian Army > during the First World war. > Web page contain links to archival files and photographs. > > http://russiananzacs.narod.ru/ > > Yours, John Wilson >

Russian Anzacs in Australian History. Military records, biography, genealogy. Personal web pages of one thousand Russian-born servicemen who served in the Australian Army during the First World war. Web page contain links to archival files and photographs. http://russiananzacs.narod.ru/ Yours, John Wilson

Jan, I recall hearing of a Japanese hospital ship that was captured by the US navy and brought to Morotai. I have a photo, reportedly of that ship, alongside a wharf in there. The story was that the ship was intercepted and seized because it was carrying arms and supplies and there were non injured troops as well as injured aboard. The story was thought to be true at the time & to be honest I cannot remember if I actually saw the vessel. I did not take the photo - cameras & diaries strictly forbidden, but they were around & I have a few prints collected from someone. Might be worth a follow up. Am forwarding this to you separately, with the photo. Regards, Dave Jan Thomas wrote: > Dear Anthony > > Thanks for your reply. > > Periodically throughout my life I have heard stories that the Centaur was > sunk in retaliation for Allied attacks on a Japanese hospital ship or ships. > The most recent yesterday at a Centaur Memorial Service. > > I am secretary and founder of the 2/3 AHS Centaur Association established in > 1999 for survivors, descendants, relatives and friends, or indeed anyone > with any sort of interest in the Centaur. > > Rumours surrounding the Centaur are rife and still surfacing after 63 years. > They are very hurtful to those whose lives have been affected by her loss, > and I am trying to verify or scotch as many as I can. > > If this allegation is just another rumour, I need to be able to state > factually that the Allies did not attack Japanese hospital ships. But I > need concrete evidence - which of course is very hard to find in the > negative. Perhaps the way for me to go is to follow your line that Japan > didn't have hospital ships, or ships that were internationally recognized as > such. > > Thanks again > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 > http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/ > > > >