Thanks for such a complete & concise answer, Daryl. Regards, Dave Daryl Ward wrote: > Spitfires that were manufactured for use in the Mediterranean and > North African theatres of operation, had modifications made to the > aircraft's induction system, to prevent engine damage from sand > ingestion, and other environmental problems. ..................

Jen You will need to look a the book before this one Shipping Arrivals and Departures Sydney, 1826-1840, by I.H. Nicholson It may cover the period 1788 to 1825. When I was looking at the arivial of the John Barry in 1826, it listed the Officers and if your bloke was in charge he should be listed. Although you may need to go the Sydney Paper of the time. Mike Boyd, Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Lambert Tracey" <jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Regiment aboard ship Surrey Arrived Dec 1816 > Would anyone be able to tell me which Regiment /part thereof arrived in > NSW > on board the second voyage of the Surrey [Surry] in December 1816. > > Most importantly... who was the commanding officer of the Regiment on that > voyage. > > Many thanks, > Jen > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 > http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/ >

Would anyone be able to tell me which Regiment /part thereof arrived in NSW on board the second voyage of the Surrey [Surry] in December 1816. Most importantly... who was the commanding officer of the Regiment on that voyage. Many thanks, Jen

Capstans was a code name they used to avoid the Japs knowing that Spits were coming to SWPA. Regards Peter Dunn "Australia @ War" http://www.ozatwar.com Over 650 Mbytes of Military home pages about Australia during WW2 Now also available on CD-Rom DISCUSSION LISTS Military Aircraft Crashes in Australia during WW2 OzCrashes-subscribe@topica.com 460 Squadron RAAF 460sqdn-subscribe@topica.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Staunton [mailto:anthony.staunton@pcug.org.au] > Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 9:04 PM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] RAAF Squadron codes > > Daryl > > Thank you for a well written explanation. > Why were they called Capstans? > > Anthony Staunton > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daryl Ward [mailto:deward@iprimus.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 7:49 PM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] RAAF Squadron codes > > Spitfires that were manufactured for use in the Mediterranean > and North African theatres of operation, had modifications > made to the aircraft's induction system, to prevent engine > damage from sand ingestion, and other environmental problems. > There were two different air filter systems that were used on > these aircraft. The Aboukir Tropical Filter system had a > short intake mounted below and at the rear of the engine, > while the Vokes system, used for filtering out the fine > desert sand, had a larger "chin" type housing. I think that > this modification was introduced on the Mk V Spitfire Both > the tropical and desert Spitfires were also used in Mid East > and Far East operations. > > The Spitfires that David Dixon refer to are fitted with the > Vokes type filters. > > An additional radiator was introduced with the Mk IX > Spitfire, but this was mounted below the port wing, and was > required due the introduction of a two speed suprecharger on > this model. > > Daryl Ward. > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 > http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/ > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the > list. Please check your replies before sending, to make sure > that is what you know is happening. >

Daryl Thank you for a well written explanation. Why were they called Capstans? Anthony Staunton -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Ward [mailto:deward@iprimus.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 7:49 PM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] RAAF Squadron codes Spitfires that were manufactured for use in the Mediterranean and North African theatres of operation, had modifications made to the aircraft's induction system, to prevent engine damage from sand ingestion, and other environmental problems. There were two different air filter systems that were used on these aircraft. The Aboukir Tropical Filter system had a short intake mounted below and at the rear of the engine, while the Vokes system, used for filtering out the fine desert sand, had a larger "chin" type housing. I think that this modification was introduced on the Mk V Spitfire Both the tropical and desert Spitfires were also used in Mid East and Far East operations. The Spitfires that David Dixon refer to are fitted with the Vokes type filters. An additional radiator was introduced with the Mk IX Spitfire, but this was mounted below the port wing, and was required due the introduction of a two speed suprecharger on this model. Daryl Ward. ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/

Spitfires that were manufactured for use in the Mediterranean and North African theatres of operation, had modifications made to the aircraft's induction system, to prevent engine damage from sand ingestion, and other environmental problems. There were two different air filter systems that were used on these aircraft. The Aboukir Tropical Filter system had a short intake mounted below and at the rear of the engine, while the Vokes system, used for filtering out the fine desert sand, had a larger "chin" type housing. I think that this modification was introduced on the Mk V Spitfire Both the tropical and desert Spitfires were also used in Mid East and Far East operations. The Spitfires that David Dixon refer to are fitted with the Vokes type filters. An additional radiator was introduced with the Mk IX Spitfire, but this was mounted below the port wing, and was required due the introduction of a two speed suprecharger on this model. Daryl Ward.

Thanks for the information, David - from the page I note that the photo AWM 014383 "1943-03-09 Spitfire Squadrons in Australia" shows three planes which, because of the large air intakes under the engine look to a non expert like me to be Kittyhawks. Were Spitfires modified with extra radiators for tropical conditions?. Any experts out there ? Regards, Dave david hatherell wrote: > Ted, > regarding your query on RAAF squadron codes, yes, they are random. > you will find a good article, and listing, at www.awm.gov.au/atwar/structure/raaf_codes > Cheers > Dave > daveandsusan@dhatherell.fsnet.co.uk > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > > >

David Excellent article. The reference is http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/raaf_codes/index.htm Anthony Staunton -----Original Message----- From: david hatherell [mailto:daveandsusan@dhatherell.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 8:04 AM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] RAAF Squadron codes Ted, regarding your query on RAAF squadron codes, yes, they are random. you will find a good article, and listing, at www.awm.gov.au/atwar/structure/raaf_codes Cheers Dave daveandsusan@dhatherell.fsnet.co.uk

Thanks to all who helped with the identification of the Honour Roll. Ken Goudie has pointed out that it is on his database (although he was told it was at Moe Historical Society, not Gippsland Heritage Park, which is at Moe also). He has it as from the Woodford Anglican Church (gone). I will be suggesting to the Park they have the local Anglican minister at Moe make discreet enquiries with the Anglican minister who covers Woodford, as to its future. If you are just catching up on the thread, the picture is at: http://static.flickr.com/53/150274870_6edee6efc9_o.jpg Thanks again to all Linda

Ted, regarding your query on RAAF squadron codes, yes, they are random. you will find a good article, and listing, at www.awm.gov.au/atwar/structure/raaf_codes Cheers Dave daveandsusan@dhatherell.fsnet.co.uk

Each RAAF Squadron is given a two letter code. To the untrained eye there seems to be no rhyme nor reason to the coding, but I doubt that that is true. Some examples are below Sqn No Code 1 NA 2 KO 3 LT, CV 4 QE 5 BF I have asked RAAF Museum but they must be busy. Can any lister help, please? Cheers, Ted Harris

White Ensign. The RAN at War in 1939/45 (WW2, WWII) http://www.diggerhistory3.info/ran/ might be of interest to anyone researching a WW2 sailor. Cheers, Ted Harris

Jen Detachment of the 46th Foot which was stationed in NSW from 1814 to 1818. The 48th Foot did not start arriving until the following August. I am not sure whether the AJCP, local papers, Historical Records of Australia, the Army List or some other reference is the best way to find name of the detachment commander. Anthony >Would anyone be able to tell me which Regiment /part thereof arrived in NSW >on board the second voyage of the Surrey [Surry] in December 1816. > >Most importantly... who was the commanding officer of the Regiment on that >voyage. > >Many thanks, >Jen

Forwarded on behalf of jtracey@heritagearchaeology.com.au Jennifer - this is an address other than that from which you subscribed. if you wish to have the address authorised to post, please contact me offlist at kapana@netspace.net.au Linda List-admin AUS-MILITARY >Would anyone be able to tell me which Regiment /part thereof arrived in NSW >on board the second voyage of the Surrey [Surry] in December 1816. > >Most importantly... who was the commanding officer of the Regiment on that >voyage. > >Many thanks, >Jen

Looks like there is an error somewhere. At the AWM honour Roll he is named as William Frances Roy Robinson and from the embarkation Roll he is from Woodford Victoria. Bright Blessings, Sandra. Sandra's Family History - http://tinyurl.com/o3mad MSN Messenger - fedelmar@hotmail.com My MSN Spaces - http://spaces.msn.com/fedelmar/ ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

Charles Rueban Carter is from Warnambool and appears on the honour roll at the AWM. Reginald CHARLES Farrer is the only R on the honour roll at the AWM and came from Little River Vic. There are a couple of R Farrar's but nothing with a W as a second name. Robinson is much more of a challenge. There are 2 W R's on CWGC with on from WA and the other from NSW. I will be back with my results on that later for you. For what it is worth I have found several mistakes on honour boards in my time :) The other thing that might help is that by the greater majority they are from Warnambool ... perhaps checking the post office directories or almanacs for the war years may turn up something :) Bright Blessings, Sandra. Sandra's Family History - http://tinyurl.com/o3mad MSN Messenger - fedelmar@hotmail.com My MSN Spaces - http://spaces.msn.com/fedelmar/ ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

Hi Greg, It is certainly World War I, as three of the four Wines have online dossiers, and are all from Mailor's Flat/Woodford, near Warrnambool. Frank Vivian Wines and Reginald Shaftsbury Wines are brothers, Octavious Alexander Wines is not a brother - possibly a cousin. I could not quickly find P.A. Wines. Wapling was also from Mailor's Flat, and I can find Farrers at Mailor's Flat, although not precisely that one (Robert, born 1866). Wapling was an intake from the Imperial reserve - I don't know much about that - and at least one of the Wines was of interest to the Mailors Flat Lodge. Great things, the online dossiers. Chas. R. Carter is probably Charles Reuben Carter, who was born at Woodford and enlisted 30.7.1915, RTA 1917 I have given up on Robinson and Wilson, due to the commoness of the names. But at this stage we are examining the option of asking the local RSL to return the Honour Roll to the Warrnambool RSL, or at least making enquiries with them. Any further information would be appreciated! Thanks Linda At 11:01 PM 1/06/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Linda, > >Ok, you got me intrigued with this challenge. Quick question, if you >have found where some of them were born, can you date it as WW1 or WW2? > >Cheers, > >Greg > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" ><kapana@netspace.net.au> >To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:34 PM >Subject: [AUS-MIL] Unidentified Honour Roll > > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>I wonder if there are any sleuths out there who can help. I have a >>small unidentifed Honour Roll in a museum collection where I am >>cataloguing. You can see it at >> >>http://static.flickr.com/53/150274870_6edee6efc9_o.jpg >> >>All things being equal, it should be from somewhere in Central >>Gippsland, Maybe. >> >>The names are: >> >>Chas. R. Carter >>R.W.Farrer >>W.R.F.Robinson >>J.B.Wilson >>J.H.Wapling >>F.V.Wines >>O.Wines >>P.A.Wines >>R.S.Wines >> >>Three of the Wines are born around Mailor's Flat/Woodford, Chas. R. >>Carter appears to be born at Woodford too, and I cannot easily find >>the others. So that is around Warrnambool, on the other side of the state.

Hi Linda, Ok, you got me intrigued with this challenge. Quick question, if you have found where some of them were born, can you date it as WW1 or WW2? Cheers, Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:34 PM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Unidentified Honour Roll > Hi Everyone, > > I wonder if there are any sleuths out there who can help. I have a small > unidentifed Honour Roll in a museum collection where I am cataloguing. You > can see it at > > http://static.flickr.com/53/150274870_6edee6efc9_o.jpg > > All things being equal, it should be from somewhere in Central Gippsland, > Maybe. > > The names are: > > Chas. R. Carter > R.W.Farrer > W.R.F.Robinson > J.B.Wilson > J.H.Wapling > F.V.Wines > O.Wines > P.A.Wines > R.S.Wines > > Three of the Wines are born around Mailor's Flat/Woodford, Chas. R. Carter > appears to be born at Woodford too, and I cannot easily find the others. > So that is around Warrnambool, on the other side of the state.

http://diggerhistory.info has a lot on NZEF (1st & 2nd) An overview is at http://www.militarybadges.info/nz-army/ and a light hearted look is at http://www.diggerhistory2.info/nz1917/ The Greek Campaign by the 2nd NZEF is at http://www.diggerhistory2.info/greece/ Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Westwood" <bwesty@telpacific.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: NZEF > Hi > > Can any good Lister provide me with some Web-sites for the New Zealand Expeditionary Forces. > > Many thanks > > Brian > > ______________________________

For WWI try (the only WWI official history online): http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WaiNewZ.html but 50 for WWII: http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-corpus-WH2.html Also from the Ministry of Culture & Heritage: http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war Yours, John Wilson