The aircraft in the picture is a Cierva Autogyro. Daryl ward Yarram

Have now identified the female in the photograph as Lores Bonney, see: http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/lores_bonney_bio.html However the plane does not seem to be hers, and the other pilot is not Bert Hinkler, with whom she was associated. So I reallly, reallly, realllllly would appreciate it if a RAAF type was out there who may be able to take a guess at the plane. Thanks! Linda

Hi All, I am seeking someone with expertise in aviation history - hopefully someone here wears that hat as well. I have just uploaded a photograph to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVG/Pictures/pictures.html#top of an unknown female aviator, and unknown male aviator and an unknown civilian. It was printed from a glass plate, and was probably take at Sale, Gippsland, Victoria in the 1920s or 1930s. It is not SMITHY, although he did visit there on occasion. It anyone can help with any suggestions, or even make a stab at the date of the plane from the little bit shown, it would be deeply appreciated. Thanks Linda

This was an article appearing in the Parramatta Chronicle 10.2.1844: DUEL.-The following particulars of the hostile meeting, which took place on the 5th, on the banks of the Neckar, in Germany, between Prince Napoleon Buonaparte and Count de Laroche-Pouchin, general in the service of Lucca, are from the "Debats." The seconds were Count de Jassy and M. de Lanison for the Prince, and M. de Vaugrignenre and General Sicrovsky for his adversary. The meeting took place at six in the morning. The swords having been measured, and the shirts drawn back for a moment from the chest, to show that no means of defence was placed inside, the combat commenced. After some time the adversaries were obliged to stop from weariness. A second stop took place soon after, in consequence of General de Laroche-Pouchin being slightly wounded in the hand. The delay was, however, of short duration. Almost immediately after both combatants were wounded at the same time, the general in the finger and Prince Napoleon in the hollow of the arm. It being found that the General! could not hold his sword firmly, and that a vein had been transpierced in the Prince's arm, from which the blood was gushing in large quantities, the seconds decided that the duel was at an end, and that the honour of the parties ought to be considered completely satisfied. The meeting lasted about fifteen minutes, and the combatants separated with the determination of following the advice of their seconds, to remain strangers to each other for the future, and not to refer in any way to their late difference. hope you enjoyed this glimpse into the past Lina

An article in the Parramatta Chronicle, dated 27.4.1844 :- NEW ZEALAND from our own Correspondent. By late accounts from Cook's Strait, it appears that the natives in the vicinity of Wellington are still in a very discontented and unsettled state. The present dissatisfaction arises from the small amount of compensation awarded them by the Government, which they have declined to accept, as they consider it altogether insufficient for the land which they have alienated in Wellington and the neighbourhood. When the last vessel left, no actual hostilities had occurred, and it was thought that the military force stationed there, under the direction of that able and judicious officer, Major Richmond of the 96th Regt., police Magistrate, would be more than a match for any body of natives which might attack the township. It is a fortunate circumstance, that, at a period of such difficulty, so experienced an officer as Major Richmond is stationed at Wellington. Since the writing the above, we have heard with much satisfaction that his Excellency Captain Fitzroy has appointed Major Richmond his representative at Wellington, with the title of his Honor the Superintendent of the Southern Division of New Zealand. During the Governor's late visit to Cook's Strait, he had displayed uncommon ability in adjusting the land claims, and in conciliating the native chiefs. His firmness, integrity, and application to business, are the theme of universal approbation.

The Parramatta Chronicle 27.4.1844 BRITISH EXTRACTS MILITARY DEFENCE OF PARIS The Commerce notwithstanding the contradictions of the Moniteur, maintains that it statements relative to the fortifications of Paris are substantially correct, and in order to show that their chief object is to suppress insurrections in the capital, gives the following circular, addressed to the colonel of every regiment, with the different stations in Paris which the troops are to occupy in case of disturbance:-- "The detached forts are not the only works of which Paris has to dread the effects. At the close of the events of May 1839 it is well known that the ministry, in concert with the general officers of division, drew up a plan of defence for the occupation of the streets and squares of Paris, by the troops of the garrison, in case of serious disturbances. This strategic plan has often been talked of, but till the present moment it has never been made known in all its details. We now perfectly understand this curious scheme, the means of repression it furnishes being to act in concert with the fortifications. We recommend it to the consideration of the people of Paris, of the chamber and of the country at large. Every colonel of the corps forming the garrison of Paris has received the following instructions, pointing out to them the places where they are to station their troops in case of an alarm in Paris. (Then follow the instructions of which the following is an outline):-Two battalions and two guns in the square of the Hotel de Ville, a battalion along the Quais de l'Horloge, des Orfevres, in the Marche aux Fleurs, and in the Court of the Palais de Justice. A squadron of cavalry, four guns and two battalions in the Place du Carrousel, and near the Tuileries. Four hundred infantry, two bodies of cavalry, and two guns, in the Place de la Bastile. From the Bastile in the Madeleine, a force composed of a battery, one regiment of cavalry, and one of infantry, placed en echelon throughout the length of the Boulevarde. The Place des Victoires, the Place du Louvre, the Place du Palais Royal are likewise to be occupied; in the Marche des Innocens, about three hundred infantry, with nat! ional guards, and one cannon, are to be stationed, and every corner house of the streets leading into it are to be occupied by the military, to prevent the insurgents from finding refuge; a detachment of one hundred and fifty men in the Place du Chatelet; in the streets of St. Dennis, St. Martin, and of the Temple, a battalion for each, and some sappers and miners, with their axes. The faubourges of the same name to be defenced in the same manner. At each of the barriers a body of fity men to be placed; the more important to be defended by artillery. To prevent any communication between the two banks of the Seige, each of the bridges to be occupied by a guard of thirty-five men; a piquet of one hundred men, at the railway stations. In the defence of the persons of the Government the following arrangements are made:--Fifty men for the Minister of Public Instruction; forty for the Minister of Commerce; two hundred, and one gun, for the Minister of the Interior, at whose office! is the central and general administration of the lines of telegraph; forty for the Minister of Public Works; two hundred fo rhte Minister of War; eighty for the Minister of Marine; two hundred for the minister of Foreign Affairs; three hundred, and one piece of artillery, for the Minister of Finance; two hundred, and a piece of artillery, on the Place Vendome, for the defence of the Minister of Justice. Besides all these, Vincennes is to contain a battery of reserve in case of reinforcements being required. In the conveyance of dispatches and orders throughout the line of troops, men are to be employed, dressed as ditizens and civilians, selected from the confidential agents of police, each having a distinctive mark by which they wil be recognized by the officers of the different posts. The head quarters to be at the Tuileries. Thus, by this place of defence, there is not a corner of Paris that will not be brought under the fire of artillery and musketry." kind regards Lina

From the Parramatta Chronicle 18.5.1844: We hear that Sir Maurice O'Connell will shortly be in Parramatta, for the purpose of reviewing the 99th Regiment. For some time past, the soldiers have been preparing for his reception. I hope subscribers to the list wont mind if I send along a few of these snippets as I go slowly through these online newspapers. kind regards Lina

The people who have been following the search for details of James Henderson might be interested in the new material on http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/australian-6.htm and also people who have an interest in the Victorian Rifles might be interested in the newly "discovered" photos from the AWM shown on http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/australian-7.htm Because of a naming malfunction these photos have not previously responded to a search of 'uniforms'. They do however respond to a search of 'rifles'. Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:01 AM Subject: AUS-MILITARY-D Digest V02 #203

Hello Mike and David, you can forget about that Knox college theory, Barker College at Hornsby started in the 1890's some time, but Knox Grammar School nearby definitely started in 1924, so if he was killed in the war he could not have been a teacher there ! Hope this helps Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: Re: 45th Infantry Battalion > David > You said "He enlisted in the 45th Infantry Battalion on 15 Nov 1915." > > From Bean's volume III, it said that the 45th was raised from the 13thBn in > Feb/March 1916. So it is likely that he left Australia as a reinforcement > for the 13th Bn which was part of the 4th Bde, Ist Div. With the > reorganisation the 45th was created and became part of the 12th Bde of the > 4th Div. You may need to look at about pp 40-45 of Volume III to get an > overview of this reorganisation. > > Is it worth asking your local Library to do a search to see if the book is > in one of the Military Libraries in the UK? > > If he was from Scotland, he may have been a teacher at Knox College, rather > than the Government school system. > > Mike Boyd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:42 PM > Subject: 45th Infantry Battalion > > > > 'Morning Listers, > > > > Can anyone tell me how I could get hold of a copy of: > > > > Lee, J. E. (Joseph Edward), A brief history of the 45th Battalion, A.I.F., > > 1916-1919 ([Sydney] : 45th Battalion Reunion Association, 1962) > > > > Researching Lt James Sutter TERRAS, native of Lanarkshire, Scotland, who > > emigrated to Australia some time between 1905 and 1915 and worked as a > > schoolmaster in Hornsby, NSW. He enlisted in the 45th Infantry Battalion > on > > 15 Nov 1915. Killed in action near Albert on 28th March 1918. > > > > Any info on James or the book would be gratefully received. > > > > David Brown > > Lancashire > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Anzac Research > http://anzacresearch.tripod.com/index.htm >

Hi Robert, Thanks for that. I had found his NAA file, by the way. There's also a Red Cross casualty report on him (on the NAA site), complete with eye witness statements describing how he died. I've ordered a copy of JE Lee's book on the 45th Battalion, so that should clear up any confusion around when it was formed. This is all an incredible testimony to how great the Australian online service records are. My James Terras was a 1st cousin (twice removed) whose very existence I was unsure of until I stumbled across him on the CWGC site in September: it hadn't occurred to me that, as a Scot, he was likely to have fought with the AIF and I'd missed him in previous searches. To have learnt so much about him in such a short time and to be able to see all of the original papers on the NAA and AWM sites is fantastic. The book includes a number of photographs and I'm hoping one of them will be a group photo of the Batallion's officers: there are two which feature him on the AWM site, but unfortunately neither is available to view as the negs are undergoing restoration. David Brown Lancashire [email protected]

David You said "He enlisted in the 45th Infantry Battalion on 15 Nov 1915." From Bean's volume III, it said that the 45th was raised from the 13thBn in Feb/March 1916. So it is likely that he left Australia as a reinforcement for the 13th Bn which was part of the 4th Bde, Ist Div. With the reorganisation the 45th was created and became part of the 12th Bde of the 4th Div. You may need to look at about pp 40-45 of Volume III to get an overview of this reorganisation. Is it worth asking your local Library to do a search to see if the book is in one of the Military Libraries in the UK? If he was from Scotland, he may have been a teacher at Knox College, rather than the Government school system. Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: 45th Infantry Battalion > 'Morning Listers, > > Can anyone tell me how I could get hold of a copy of: > > Lee, J. E. (Joseph Edward), A brief history of the 45th Battalion, A.I.F., > 1916-1919 ([Sydney] : 45th Battalion Reunion Association, 1962) > > Researching Lt James Sutter TERRAS, native of Lanarkshire, Scotland, who > emigrated to Australia some time between 1905 and 1915 and worked as a > schoolmaster in Hornsby, NSW. He enlisted in the 45th Infantry Battalion on > 15 Nov 1915. Killed in action near Albert on 28th March 1918. > > Any info on James or the book would be gratefully received. > > David Brown > Lancashire > [email protected] > > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html >

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Dear List, A work mate of mine in Melbourne has asked what the following means for a "Posting at Discharge" on the WW2 Nominal Roll : PSL AUST INF The service record is for an Army Captain born 1905, enlisted 1939 and discharged 20 Sep 1945 (he was a POW). Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Calvin in Perth

In a message dated 09/12/2002 12:02:25 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > How do you know he was a schoolmaster ? > Do you know what school ? > That's what it says on his enlistment papers, but no, I don't know which school. Likely to have been in Hornsby though. David Brown Lancashire [email protected]

'Morning Listers, Can anyone tell me how I could get hold of a copy of: Lee, J. E. (Joseph Edward), A brief history of the 45th Battalion, A.I.F., 1916-1919 ([Sydney] : 45th Battalion Reunion Association, 1962) Researching Lt James Sutter TERRAS, native of Lanarkshire, Scotland, who emigrated to Australia some time between 1905 and 1915 and worked as a schoolmaster in Hornsby, NSW. He enlisted in the 45th Infantry Battalion on 15 Nov 1915. Killed in action near Albert on 28th March 1918. Any info on James or the book would be gratefully received. David Brown Lancashire [email protected]

Gunner Edwin McAllister Martin, 3600 "Z" 5A Medium Trench Mortar Bty., Australian Field Artillery, died 16 September 1916, aged 19. I am trying to contact Dana and Peter Meadows of Melbourne about Gunner Martin. They appear to have changed their email address since we last communicated. Geoff Moran

>Peter M Thomas wrote: >>Note: 51st was formed after Gallipoli by splitting the 16th: both were >>W.A. units. > >The 51st was formed by splitting the 11th; the 48th was formed by splitting >the 16th. > 16 Bn & 48 Bn were SA & WA units ! _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

1. A photo of my grandfather and an unidentified gent called Victor 2. A photo of my grandfather and someone called Howard OConnor 3. A photo showing about 70 soldiers and a woman and a dog, in front of a shed with a sign with a sun logo and the letters S.A. 4. Another photo showing about 70 soldiers. 5. A photo of my grandfather and three other men in shirts and shorts (ww2) 6. A photo of my grandfather and three other men in shorts without shirts. (ww2) 7. Several photos of my grandfather on some kind of vacation in Scotland, one captioned Don Isles (W.A.) 8. A dance card from 53rd Battalion, B Company Grand Bal Australo-Belge Commune de Sivry 9. Another Programme du Bal 2nd section 2nd D A C Thuin 15 Janvier 1919 If anyone has the slightest curiosity or suggestions about these photos, let me know Robert Heal

Another photo shows 3 gents on horses, and is labelled on the back: Lt-Col A T Paul CO Major Billy Woale 2 1/C Capt R C Grantham Adjt (grandfather) 3 Bn In the background is a shed and some tents. This photo is post WW1 because my grandfather has put on weight.

I have some photographs from my grandfather which presumably relate to his service in WW1 and WW2. The first one shows a group of about 70 men, and is annotated on the back: B company 53 Battalion, taken at St Maxent near Abbeyville in France on 11/11/1918 Anyone want a copy ?