Worth checking: The Waterloo medal roll : compiled from the muster rolls, Naval & Military Press Ltd, c1992 ISBN 1897632118 Also the Military General Service Medal for the Peninsular campaign clasps (there isn't a Peninsular War medal as such). Don't know if there's a published roll. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: Where to research in Australia??? > I am not looking for research, but have a question on how to go about a very > unusual situation. My (4th) Great Grandfather William Grant was born 3 Jun > 1793 in Dumbarton, Sct. He immigrated to Australia 16 Jun 1853 with (2nd) wife > and children. William died in Wallsend, Aus 10 April 1889. There are several > articles about this man and his life. The all come about the same thing.... > > <It appears that when a young man, he joined the Duke of Argyle's militia in > Scotland, went with them to Ireland and, when the Peninsula War broke out, > volounteered,with others of the militia, to proceed to Spain. He was on active > service till the termination of his seven years. Whilst in Spain, at the > expiration of his term in the militia, at the urgent request of Captain Poole,he > joined the volunteers and was amongst the first company of volunteers formed. The > veteran, after passing through the Peninsula War, was engaged in the > historical battle of Waterloo and afterwards for a time served in France. > > Two medals - Peninsular War &Waterloo Medal. Receipt of a pension for many > years. (Certified by police magistrate.) > > Received pension from army - 62nd Foot - rate of pension paid quarterly - 1/6 > - Sydney.> > > > I have been working with a lady named Kerrie who is compiling research about > Waterloo Veterans from the area. We are both at a stand still with this one. I > have gone through all William Grant's in the WO97 Public Records in Kew. Non > were mine or even close. I chalked it up that William was really not a war > veteran. Then I decided to look for William's friend Edward David Butters who is > mentioned in some of the articles. I found several records in Sussex on him > and his passenger information. And again no record in Kew. I thought that Mr. > Butters would show. If these men applied for pension in Australia they would not > be outpatients of Chelsea and that could be the reason why I can't find them. > Can anyone suggest a way through Australia to find their information. I > thought the National Archives would be the place to go, but they suggest the > libraries for pre-1901 records. I am at a standstill. > > Sincerely, > > Stephanie

Stephanie Could he have been discharged in 1815 in Ireland? My ancestor Thoms Boyd was born in 1792 in Killarney, Co Kerry, Ireland. He joined the 61st Regiment in 1807 and was discharged at Toulouse. He was in the Chelsea Hospital equivalent in Dublin - Starts with a D I think. When I was in Canberra there was an book or some record of those who got a UK Army pension. You may find this through the Joint Copying Project Index (If you are in Australia). Sorry can't recall the name. As Wallsend is a part of Newcastle, would their newspaper have something that may be of use to you. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:07 AM Subject: Where to research in Australia??? > I am not looking for research, but have a question on how to go about a very > unusual situation. My (4th) Great Grandfather William Grant was born 3 Jun > 1793 in Dumbarton, Sct. He immigrated to Australia 16 Jun 1853 with (2nd) wife > and children. William died in Wallsend, Aus 10 April 1889. There are several > articles about this man and his life. The all come about the same thing.... > > <It appears that when a young man, he joined the Duke of Argyle's militia in > Scotland, went with them to Ireland and, when the Peninsula War broke out, > volounteered,with others of the militia, to proceed to Spain. He was on active > service till the termination of his seven years. Whilst in Spain, at the > expiration of his term in the militia, at the urgent request of Captain Poole,he > joined the volunteers and was amongst the first company of volunteers formed. The > veteran, after passing through the Peninsula War, was engaged in the > historical battle of Waterloo and afterwards for a time served in France. > > Two medals - Peninsular War &Waterloo Medal. Receipt of a pension for many > years. (Certified by police magistrate.) > > Received pension from army - 62nd Foot - rate of pension paid quarterly - 1/6 > - Sydney.> > > > I have been working with a lady named Kerrie who is compiling research about > Waterloo Veterans from the area. We are both at a stand still with this one. I > have gone through all William Grant's in the WO97 Public Records in Kew. Non > were mine or even close. I chalked it up that William was really not a war > veteran. Then I decided to look for William's friend Edward David Butters who is > mentioned in some of the articles. I found several records in Sussex on him > and his passenger information. And again no record in Kew. I thought that Mr. > Butters would show. If these men applied for pension in Australia they would not > be outpatients of Chelsea and that could be the reason why I can't find them. > Can anyone suggest a way through Australia to find their information. I > thought the National Archives would be the place to go, but they suggest the > libraries for pre-1901 records. I am at a standstill. > > Sincerely, > > Stephanie > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > The Military Historical Society of Australia > http://www.pcug.org.au/~astaunto/mhsa.htm >

Hi Mike, Thank you for the response. Yes, there are several articles on William in Newcastle. There is even a section on Old Wallsend Cemetery about William and his friend Mr. Butters on the Newcastle site. What I find interesting with William is that none of the records in Scotland talk of his military. I have transcribed many records that list rank of a soldier on his marriage, children's baptisms and census. There is nothing on William. I have to really wonder about this man. Sincerely, Stephanie

He was in > the Chelsea Hospital equivalent in Dublin - Starts with a D I think. Kilmainham. The Kilmainham records are with the Chelsea records at the PRO though and not in Ireland. Regards, Donnacha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Where to research in Australia??? > Stephanie > Could he have been discharged in 1815 in Ireland? > > My ancestor Thoms Boyd was born in 1792 in Killarney, Co Kerry, Ireland. He > joined the 61st Regiment in 1807 and was discharged at Toulouse. He was in > the Chelsea Hospital equivalent in Dublin - Starts with a D I think. > > When I was in Canberra there was an book or some record of those who got a > UK Army pension. You may find this through the Joint Copying Project Index > (If you are in Australia). Sorry can't recall the name. > > As Wallsend is a part of Newcastle, would their newspaper have something > that may be of use to you. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:07 AM > Subject: Where to research in Australia??? > > > > I am not looking for research, but have a question on how to go about a > very > > unusual situation. My (4th) Great Grandfather William Grant was born 3 Jun > > 1793 in Dumbarton, Sct. He immigrated to Australia 16 Jun 1853 with (2nd) > wife > > and children. William died in Wallsend, Aus 10 April 1889. There are > several > > articles about this man and his life. The all come about the same > thing.... > > > > <It appears that when a young man, he joined the Duke of Argyle's militia > in > > Scotland, went with them to Ireland and, when the Peninsula War broke out, > > volounteered,with others of the militia, to proceed to Spain. He was on > active > > service till the termination of his seven years. Whilst in Spain, at the > > expiration of his term in the militia, at the urgent request of Captain > Poole,he > > joined the volunteers and was amongst the first company of volunteers > formed. The > > veteran, after passing through the Peninsula War, was engaged in the > > historical battle of Waterloo and afterwards for a time served in France. > > > > Two medals - Peninsular War &Waterloo Medal. Receipt of a pension for many > > years. (Certified by police magistrate.) > > > > Received pension from army - 62nd Foot - rate of pension paid quarterly - > 1/6 > > - Sydney.> > > > > > > I have been working with a lady named Kerrie who is compiling research > about > > Waterloo Veterans from the area. We are both at a stand still with this > one. I > > have gone through all William Grant's in the WO97 Public Records in Kew. > Non > > were mine or even close. I chalked it up that William was really not a war > > veteran. Then I decided to look for William's friend Edward David Butters > who is > > mentioned in some of the articles. I found several records in Sussex on > him > > and his passenger information. And again no record in Kew. I thought that > Mr. > > Butters would show. If these men applied for pension in Australia they > would not > > be outpatients of Chelsea and that could be the reason why I can't find > them. > > Can anyone suggest a way through Australia to find their information. I > > thought the National Archives would be the place to go, but they suggest > the > > libraries for pre-1901 records. I am at a standstill. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Stephanie > >

I am not looking for research, but have a question on how to go about a very unusual situation. My (4th) Great Grandfather William Grant was born 3 Jun 1793 in Dumbarton, Sct. He immigrated to Australia 16 Jun 1853 with (2nd) wife and children. William died in Wallsend, Aus 10 April 1889. There are several articles about this man and his life. The all come about the same thing.... <It appears that when a young man, he joined the Duke of Argyle's militia in Scotland, went with them to Ireland and, when the Peninsula War broke out, volounteered,with others of the militia, to proceed to Spain. He was on active service till the termination of his seven years. Whilst in Spain, at the expiration of his term in the militia, at the urgent request of Captain Poole,he joined the volunteers and was amongst the first company of volunteers formed. The veteran, after passing through the Peninsula War, was engaged in the historical battle of Waterloo and afterwards for a time served in France. Two medals - Peninsular War &Waterloo Medal. Receipt of a pension for many years. (Certified by police magistrate.) Received pension from army - 62nd Foot - rate of pension paid quarterly - 1/6 - Sydney.> I have been working with a lady named Kerrie who is compiling research about Waterloo Veterans from the area. We are both at a stand still with this one. I have gone through all William Grant's in the WO97 Public Records in Kew. Non were mine or even close. I chalked it up that William was really not a war veteran. Then I decided to look for William's friend Edward David Butters who is mentioned in some of the articles. I found several records in Sussex on him and his passenger information. And again no record in Kew. I thought that Mr. Butters would show. If these men applied for pension in Australia they would not be outpatients of Chelsea and that could be the reason why I can't find them. Can anyone suggest a way through Australia to find their information. I thought the National Archives would be the place to go, but they suggest the libraries for pre-1901 records. I am at a standstill. Sincerely, Stephanie

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Whoops ... definitely a slip of the fingers but in a 'saintly' way ... I took pics though ... hope that parish priest isn't on this list ... Anyway I did take photographs of the plaques if anyone wants them. Bright Blessings Sandie > X-Message: #1 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 20:39:15 +1000 > From: "evan smith" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Plaques > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Just "took them" Sandie? Do you mean physically, or a photo of them? > Evan S > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:27 PM > Subject: Plaques > > > > hello listers, was in Northampton recently for my grand daughters baptisms > > and saw these plaques on the wall of the Anglican Church so took them. If > > anyone would like them please contact me off list. > > > > Bright Blessings > > Sandie > > > > "In living memory of Lance Cpl Thomas Frances Burdett BURGES. 10th > > Australian Light Horse. Killed in Action at Walkers Ridge. Gallipoli > Peninsula. 7th > > August 1915. Aged 27 years." > > > > "In loving memory of Douglas K. Watt 10th Light Horse who died of wounds > in > > Damascus 8th Oct 1918. Aged 25 years. Also his brother Reg 28th > Battalion > > killed in action in France. 3rd May 1917. Aged 27 years. Their Duty > Nobly > > Done." > > > > "In Loving memory of Private Harry R Ewels. 44th Battalion killed in > action > > 11th June 1917 at Messines. Aged 18 years. His Duty Nobly Done." >

Just "took them" Sandie? Do you mean physically, or a photo of them? Evan S ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Plaques > hello listers, was in Northampton recently for my grand daughters baptisms > and saw these plaques on the wall of the Anglican Church so took them. If > anyone would like them please contact me off list. > > Bright Blessings > Sandie > > "In living memory of Lance Cpl Thomas Frances Burdett BURGES. 10th > Australian Light Horse. Killed in Action at Walkers Ridge. Gallipoli Peninsula. 7th > August 1915. Aged 27 years." > > "In loving memory of Douglas K. Watt 10th Light Horse who died of wounds in > Damascus 8th Oct 1918. Aged 25 years. Also his brother Reg 28th Battalion > killed in action in France. 3rd May 1917. Aged 27 years. Their Duty Nobly > Done." > > "In Loving memory of Private Harry R Ewels. 44th Battalion killed in action > 11th June 1917 at Messines. Aged 18 years. His Duty Nobly Done." > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > The Military Historical Society of Australia > http://www.pcug.org.au/~astaunto/mhsa.htm >

i have two photos, one of a Ernest Rupert Ridding sailed 8/10/1915 KIA France 30/5/1916 aged 25. it is a very clear photo. also one that i believe is of Clough John Spencer : SERN 5671 : POB Bendigo VIC : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK W Clough Lily. if anyone is a descendant of these people and would like the photos please email me. Mae in Victoria Australia

can someone please tell me how to unsubscribe from these mailings ----- Original Message ----- From: "mae bowater" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: 2 photos of WW1 soldiers > i have two photos, one of a Ernest Rupert Ridding sailed 8/10/1915 KIA France 30/5/1916 aged 25. it is a very clear photo. > also one that i believe is of Clough John Spencer : SERN 5671 : POB Bendigo VIC : POE Melbourne VIC : NOK W Clough Lily. > if anyone is a descendant of these people and would like the photos please email me. > Mae > in Victoria Australia > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > Woy Woy War Memorial and Soldiers' Memorial Park > http://www.terrigal.net.au/~joanf/anzac1.htm >

Hi All If you are living in Perth or surrounds you are encouraged to attend the Borneo POW Exhibition 1942 - 1945 to be held at the Alexander State Library for two weeks commencing August 3rd 2003. The Borneo POW Relatives Group are presenting the exhibition with the kind help and assistance from the Library & Information Service of WA. The exhibition will be officially opened at 11.00 am on Sunday August 3rd and will close on Sunday August 17th. The exhibition will illustrate the appalling conditions under which Australian and British Soldiers suffered at the hands of the Japanese at Sandakan and on the death marches to Ranau. From a Western Australian perspective many were sappers of the 2/6th Field Park Company R.A.E and many others from the 2/4th Machine Gun Battalion. We owe a debt to these brave soldiers who were left at the mercy of an ruthless Imperial Japanese Army. Many of our soldiers were married men with children and they were subjected to such atrocious conditions that gave them no opportunity to survive. Please take time off from your busy life to pause and reflect on the sacrifice made by these very brave soldiers. They were systematically exterminated under the banner and excuse of war conditions! Let the memory of their sacrifice live on. Please forward on this email to anyone else you know that has a relative or an interest associated with the Sandakan POW's. Regards Allan Cresswell Research/Liaison Officer Borneo POW Relatives Group

While in France and Belgium in May I photographed the memorials of Harry Croker at VC Corner and of Wyllie Croker at the Menin Gate for Valerie Green, one of their relatives. Unfortunately she seems to have changed ISP, as I get an error message when I try to contact her. If anyone knows of Valerie, or any living relatives of Harry and Wyllie, could you please ask them to contact me so I can forward the photographs? Thanks, Geoff Moran

Greetings from Townsville to all listers... Are there any Mailing Lists covering the RAAF and RAF during WWII. Thanks in advance, Eldon Bryant..............

Dear Listers, Hi my name is Ross Wilson. I am researching my family history. My great grand father George Robert Thomas HODGE served in the 56th Bn of the AIF (WW1). He was a Sgt serial number 3072. I have ordered a copy of his service record from the NAA but I have not yet received it. Can anyone tell me if there is a unit history of the 56th Bn or if someone is currently writing a unit history of the 56th Bn? I have been unable to find any such history. Hope someone can help me. Regards Ross Wilson

hello listers, was in Northampton recently for my grand daughters baptisms and saw these plaques on the wall of the Anglican Church so took them. If anyone would like them please contact me off list. Bright Blessings Sandie "In living memory of Lance Cpl Thomas Frances Burdett BURGES. 10th Australian Light Horse. Killed in Action at Walkers Ridge. Gallipoli Peninsula. 7th August 1915. Aged 27 years." "In loving memory of Douglas K. Watt 10th Light Horse who died of wounds in Damascus 8th Oct 1918. Aged 25 years. Also his brother Reg 28th Battalion killed in action in France. 3rd May 1917. Aged 27 years. Their Duty Nobly Done." "In Loving memory of Private Harry R Ewels. 44th Battalion killed in action 11th June 1917 at Messines. Aged 18 years. His Duty Nobly Done."

Thanks to all those who replied, both on and off the list. I had tried the Army History Unit, NAA, the AWM, newspapers and unit histories befor posting. I have identified two NAA records which might refer but they are in the Sydney repository and I am in Canberra. In respect of the vehicle log books, I have discovered their fate - they are routinely destroyed and, in any case would not contain the information I require, which is the name of a passenger in the vehicle. Ric Pelvin _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=174&referral=Hotmail_taglines_plain&URL=http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

Hi Richard, You could try Victoria Barracks in Sydney. They do have a records section which may be able to help. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pelvin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: Vehicle log book > Can anyone tell me whether the Vehicle Log Books for Australian Army > vehicles (AAB20) still exist and where they might be found? > > RecordSearch has been no help. > > I am looking for information on an accident between an army truck and a tram > in Oxford Street Paddington in March 1946. > > Ric Pelvin > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > ______________________________

Have you tried the newspapers especially the local press. Elizabeth Roberts ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: AUS-MILITARY-D Digest V03 #149

Hi Richard Perhaps the Army historical section might be able to assist you? Do you know which unit the person belonged to as it might be mentioned in the unit history? Sydney Morning Herald on microfilm might also provide some clues. http://www.defence.gov.au/army/ Best wishes Jan -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pelvin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Vehicle log book Can anyone tell me whether the Vehicle Log Books for Australian Army vehicles (AAB20) still exist and where they might be found? RecordSearch has been no help. I am looking for information on an accident between an army truck and a tram in Oxford Street Paddington in March 1946. Ric Pelvin _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ______________________________

Have you tried the National Archives of Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html Glynis