Hi I had a chap who did a runner from his home state due to marital troubles, he enlisted under an assumed name that had part of his Mothers first name, only way I found out was I asked his surving brother what had happened, have you tried to put in the WW2 nominal roll his town of enlistment or his birth town, that can work, don't forget spelling of the surname could be slightly altered. Good luck Carol

Chris, The only others under this name listed for NSW are Sofala Aberdeen Turondale x 3 Murwillumbah x 2 Wellington I have sent you direct the only one mentioned fro Bathurst. Elayne

Hi all, I m trying to track WW2 records for Victor Kenneth CHARMAN born 2/11/1921 who enlisted in Bathurst. Apparently the records office burnt down and the family can not trace any service records for this man. Surely he would have had service medals allocated. Anyone have any wonderful ideas on how to achieve this? They believe he served in the Aus Army, the family has a picture of him (in uniform) and his mates on return to Aus. Cheers Chris --------------------------------- On Yahoo!7 Music: Create your own personalised radio station.

Anyone researching an Aussie or NZer who flew in or worked in Coastal Command in WW2 might be interested in http://www.diggerhistory3.info/coastal It started life during the war and was an official document. 142 photos in 15 chapters. Cheers, Ted Harris

Glen, The information that Jim George has on aircraft is brilliant. The story on the blade is just one he sent to us last year. There was a person looking for information on a relative who was a member of a Lancaster crew. The information this person received from Jim was beyond belief. His sense of humour is also wonderful - weird, but nonetheless wonderful. He celebrated his 21st birthday YET AGAIN this past week. Elayne

Dear List I just did a story for our local newspaper about a local boy who was killed in the accident. full story is on the website at the 467/463 website and is quite informative goto www.467463raafsquadrons.com/TrueTales/PD259_JOG.htm ....here is my article underneath Glen Hall Research Officer Mackay Historical Society and Museum Inc. Po Box 1349, MACKAY QLD 4740. phone (H) 49 592 572 mobile 0427 559 020 email: bushpig3@bigpond.com our website: http://www.mackayhistory.org Memories of a local boy lost Thousands of cars pass the Walkerston War Memorial on the Corner of Dutton and Bridge Streets everyday. But how many people look at the memorial and think about the names of 37 men from the district that gave their lives so we can enjoy the freedoms and prosperity we have today. The Memorial lists 18 Men who died in the service of their country in the Great War of 1914 � 1918 and 19 men who paid the supreme sacrifice in the Second World War from 1939 to 1945. These loved ones are buried in cemeteries in Europe, Africa, Middle East, South East Asia as well as Australia and an ever dwindling group of veterans remember the sacrifice they made every Anzac day. One of these men that never came back was from a well-known local Walkerston family. Terence Roy Dent known simply as �Roy� or �Denty�, he was born in Walkerston on 12 February 1923, the son of Robert and Annie Dent. Roy�s grandparents had emigrated from Scotland in 1884 and proceeded to Queensland and eventually settled in Walkerston. Roy worked as a shop assistant in Walkerston prior to joining the Royal Australian Air Force on Anzac Day in 1942. He was one of thousands of young Australian men who were to be trained to be part of the British Royal Air Force (R.A.F.) Bomber Command. Many thousands of Australian men were to lose their lives over Europe during night-time bombing missions of German held territory. Roy Dent however was to be one of the crews who did not die over German territory but as a result of an air accident on a training flight on the night of 31 August 1944 on the barren Monadhliath mountains to the west of the small township of Kingussie in Inverness , northern Scotland. He was the Wireless Operator as part of a crew that was originally with the R.A.F.�s no. 83 �Pathfinder� Squadron before being transferred to 463 squadron only 3 days before the accident. The Lancaster Bomber he was flying in was probably one of the most famous aircraft in the Second World War. Used by the British Royal Air Force it was responsible for the dropping of millions of tonnes of bombs to help halt the German war effort. Investigations at the crash scene seemed to indicate the aircraft blew up in mid-air. It seems that the aircraft in question was damaged by flak in an air raid two nights previously and this may have caused a fracture in the fuel lines, which may have caused the explosion. The bodies of the aircrew were recovered the next day. Roy Dent was 21 years of age at the time of his death. He was interred in the Cambridge City Cemetery in Cambridgeshire, England and his grave is one of 829 burials from the Second World War in that cemetery. On the fiftieth anniversary of the accident in 1994 one of the aircraft propellor blades was handed over to the 467/463 Lancaster Squadrons RAAF Association UK, which was incorporated in a memorial to the seven airman who lost their lives. The memorial is sited at the former Waddington R.A.F. Base in Lincolnshire, northern England. This was the base where the 463 Squadron R.A.A.F. that operated the Lancaster bombers was based. Dent Street in Walkerston was named after the Dent families who have lived in the Walkerston Community for many generations..

Ric, off the top of my head I cannot tell you, but given a little time for an answer to my e-mail to my friend in England I will have the answer for you. Thanks Elayne /*From:*/ Richard Pelvin <mailto:rpe56n@hotmail.com> /*Date:*/ 03/09/06 11:02:49 /*To:*/ AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> /*Subject:*/ RE: [AUS-MIL] Lancasters > >Are you also aware that recently in the UK one blade of a Lancaster >propeller was found. It was discovered to be from a Lancaster crewed by >Australians. The blade is now a memorial to that particular Lancaster crew >and on a brass plaque of Australia affixed to this blade are the names of >each of that Lancaster's crew. > >Elayne, Melbourne Do you know where it is, Elayne? Ric Pelvin ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== The Military Historical Society of Australia http://www.pcug.org.au/~astaunto/mhsa.htm <http://www.pcug.org.au/%7Eastaunto/mhsa.htm>

> >Are you also aware that recently in the UK one blade of a Lancaster >propeller was found. It was discovered to be from a Lancaster crewed by >Australians. The blade is now a memorial to that particular Lancaster crew >and on a brass plaque of Australia affixed to this blade are the names of >each of that Lancaster's crew. > >Elayne, Melbourne Do you know where it is, Elayne? Ric Pelvin

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Hello My father Allen Godfrey Jones who died in 1959 had a photo album full of photos of himself and his Army mates (4th Anti Tank) Seven of these photos are now on the AWM site. Go to search our collections and type in Allen Godfrey Jones http://www.awm.gov.au/ Regards Kathryn

If you go to the Search our Collections section of the AWM site you can follow his entire life in pics from when he was a boy in France to when he was an adult in Australia. Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Thomas" <pmthomas@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:13 AM Subject: RE: Mascot 4 Squadron Australian Flying Corps > The book "ANZAC: An Illustrated History 1914-1918" ed by Richard > PELVIN; published 2004 by Hardie Grant Books, Australia, has a picture > of the boy. > > > Peter THOMAS > Darwin, AUSTRALIA > <pmthomas@bigpond.com> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan & Elayne Whatman [mailto:qantas@ozonline.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 6:17 PM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Mascot 4 Squadron Australian Flying Corps > > > Thought this interesting. > > There is a grave at Fawkner Memorial Park for which the following > Epitaph is etched in stone. > > AFC WING > > Erected by public subscription to the Memory of HENRI HEEMEME TOVELL a > nameless war orphan adopted by No. 4 SQN AUSTRALIAN FLYING CORPS in > France during the Great War 1914-18. Taking the name of his self > appointed guardian Air Mechanic T.W. TOVELL of Brisbane he returned to > Australia with his Squadron and lived with his guardian until 1923 when > Flying Officer H.A. Wilson assumed responsibility for his welfare. > > Accidentally killed at Melbourne 24th May 1928, aged about 21 years. > > > This young boy was smuggled aboard ship from France to England and then > to Australia in an airman's kit bag. > > Elayne > > ______________________________

As a follow up to Elayne's last posting. My fathers cousin WO William Hickling DFC was rear gunner on a Lancaster with 156 Sqn RAF .It was shot down after a raid on Frankfurt and all the crew were presumed dead 20 Dec 1943.It took till 1948 for the remains to be found and given proper burial .During this time my great aunt would not allow anyone to speak of him as deceased. .On reading his file I am very impressed by the courtesy and patience extended to the family by officials in the RAAF and the efforts made regarding identification Marilyn

Hello Ted and the List Found this while browsing the Sandgate Military Cemetery maybe of interest to someone Section E Row C Plot 3 GOVETT DENZEL LESLIE age 29 died 14.10.1943 Lt VX 29955 AIF, 1st Parachute Battalion Aust Infantry abode Wagga Wagga Sandgate War Cemetery Shirley & John Smith s641025@hunterlink.net.au Maitland Area Lower Hunter Valley NSW Aust -----Original Message----- From: Ted HARRIS [mailto:tedharris@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 7 March 2006 8:41 AM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt My thanks to all who replied. The "red beret" appears to have been the normal headwear with the slouch hat worn on some occasions. I can only assume that it was the same colour as the British Para Regt, a sort of dark cherry, not the bright scarlet of the Military Police. People interested in the uniform can see what I believe to be a genuine original one at http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/1-para-regt.htm Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Graham" <grahama01@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt > Ted > > My father was a WO1 in the 1st Australian Parachute Battalion based at > Richmond RAAF base. > > I still have his red beret that was issued to the paratroopers. > > I have a RAAF Leave Pass issued to my father and stamped "1 Aust Para Trg > Centre" which is obviously the 1 Australian Parachute Training Centre. > > I will see if there is any reference in my Dad's army record. > > This ABC link is useful - http://www.abc.net.au/wa/anzac/land2.htm#1apb > > > Andrew Graham > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted HARRIS [mailto:tedharris@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 9:12 AM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt > > Is anyone able to 100% confirm the headwear worn by the 1st Australian > Parachute Regiment of WW2. > > I know that they sometimes wore the slouch hat. Was there any other? > > Does anyone have access to any photos of the Unit? (other than AWM) > > Cheers, > Ted Harris > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please > check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is > happening. > > > ______________________________ ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== RAAF Museum http://www.raafmuseum.com.au/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3 Mar 2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3 Mar 2006

My thanks to all who replied. The "red beret" appears to have been the normal headwear with the slouch hat worn on some occasions. I can only assume that it was the same colour as the British Para Regt, a sort of dark cherry, not the bright scarlet of the Military Police. People interested in the uniform can see what I believe to be a genuine original one at http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/1-para-regt.htm Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Graham" <grahama01@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt > Ted > > My father was a WO1 in the 1st Australian Parachute Battalion based at > Richmond RAAF base. > > I still have his red beret that was issued to the paratroopers. > > I have a RAAF Leave Pass issued to my father and stamped "1 Aust Para Trg > Centre" which is obviously the 1 Australian Parachute Training Centre. > > I will see if there is any reference in my Dad's army record. > > This ABC link is useful - http://www.abc.net.au/wa/anzac/land2.htm#1apb > > > Andrew Graham > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted HARRIS [mailto:tedharris@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 9:12 AM > To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt > > Is anyone able to 100% confirm the headwear worn by the 1st Australian > Parachute Regiment of WW2. > > I know that they sometimes wore the slouch hat. Was there any other? > > Does anyone have access to any photos of the Unit? (other than AWM) > > Cheers, > Ted Harris > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please > check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is > happening. > > > ______________________________

The book "ANZAC: An Illustrated History 1914-1918" ed by Richard PELVIN; published 2004 by Hardie Grant Books, Australia, has a picture of the boy. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: Alan & Elayne Whatman [mailto:qantas@ozonline.com.au] Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 6:17 PM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Mascot 4 Squadron Australian Flying Corps Thought this interesting. There is a grave at Fawkner Memorial Park for which the following Epitaph is etched in stone. AFC WING Erected by public subscription to the Memory of HENRI HEEMEME TOVELL a nameless war orphan adopted by No. 4 SQN AUSTRALIAN FLYING CORPS in France during the Great War 1914-18. Taking the name of his self appointed guardian Air Mechanic T.W. TOVELL of Brisbane he returned to Australia with his Squadron and lived with his guardian until 1923 when Flying Officer H.A. Wilson assumed responsibility for his welfare. Accidentally killed at Melbourne 24th May 1928, aged about 21 years. This young boy was smuggled aboard ship from France to England and then to Australia in an airman's kit bag. Elayne

Ted My father was a WO1 in the 1st Australian Parachute Battalion based at Richmond RAAF base. I still have his red beret that was issued to the paratroopers. I have a RAAF Leave Pass issued to my father and stamped "1 Aust Para Trg Centre" which is obviously the 1 Australian Parachute Training Centre. I will see if there is any reference in my Dad's army record. This ABC link is useful - http://www.abc.net.au/wa/anzac/land2.htm#1apb Andrew Graham -----Original Message----- From: Ted HARRIS [mailto:tedharris@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 9:12 AM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt Is anyone able to 100% confirm the headwear worn by the 1st Australian Parachute Regiment of WW2. I know that they sometimes wore the slouch hat. Was there any other? Does anyone have access to any photos of the Unit? (other than AWM) Cheers, Ted Harris ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is happening.

Thought this interesting. There is a grave at Fawkner Memorial Park for which the following Epitaph is etched in stone. AFC WING Erected by public subscription to the Memory of HENRI HEEMEME TOVELL a nameless war orphan adopted by No. 4 SQN AUSTRALIAN FLYING CORPS in France during the Great War 1914-18. Taking the name of his self appointed guardian Air Mechanic T.W. TOVELL of Brisbane he returned to Australia with his Squadron and lived with his guardian until 1923 when Flying Officer H.A. Wilson assumed responsibility for his welfare. Accidentally killed at Melbourne 24th May 1928, aged about 21 years. This young boy was smuggled aboard ship from France to England and then to Australia in an airman's kit bag. Elayne

My parents were friendly with a family who lived in Victoria whose son, along with the entire crew of a Lancaster from XV Squadron Royal Air Force on the night of 21/22 January 1944 were shot down over Magdeburg. For many years the January Memoriam Notice in a Melbourne daily newspaper always stated MIA then it suddenly changed to KIA. This alteration resulted in the death of the son's mother for she always believed that one day he would return. Are you also aware that recently in the UK one blade of a Lancaster propeller was found. It was discovered to be from a Lancaster crewed by Australians. The blade is now a memorial to that particular Lancaster crew and on a brass plaque of Australia affixed to this blade are the names of each of that Lancaster's crew. Elayne, Melbourne

Dean Newman wrote <<The program 'Bomber Crew' on ABCTV on Thursday nights is creating all sorts of interest amongst ex WW II Lancaster crews and their descendants. .... We seem to forget that the contribution of life and limb by the Australian air-crew in Bomber Command was far greater than those by Australians in any other phase of WWII.>> - both in their own squadrons and as members of British squadrons. Lancaster R.5662 from 61 Squadron took off at 2120 from Syerston on the night of August 24th, 1942, piloted by F/Sgt N.R. Meyer and with W/Cdr G.H. SHEEHAN, RAFVR, who I believe was an Australian from Sydney, as 2nd pilot. It failed to return, although the other 61 Squadron plane which took off at the same time returned safely at 0240 on the 25th after a bombing raid on Frankfurt. I agree with Ted Harris that the story of the Australian involvement in Bomber Command would probably be too big for this list, but I would love to hear from anyone connected with the family of George Harcus Sheehan. My uncle, Sgt John McCleary (from Lurgan & Dungannon), was 1st A.G. on the plane that went down, so I would also appreciate it if someone could tell me which gun turret he would have been in. Standing underneath R.5868 at RAF Hendon a couple of years ago, I could only marvel at the courage of the men who flew in her. Mind you, she was rather overshadowed by the Vulcan nearby! And as for Gallipoli, it was good to hear that this year's service will be a bit more respectful than last year's, but what a shame that an emu parade should even be necessary. Cheers Margaret ROSE (McCleary) Wagga Wagga, NSW

Ted The unit was 1 Aust Parachute Battalion not Regiment. Their history "Eagles Alighting" by JB Dunn has everyone in a beret for all the group photos - looks oversize to me, no colour photos so don't know what colour Cheers Graham -----Original Message----- From: Ted HARRIS [mailto:tedharris@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, 6 March 2006 6:12 AM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] 1st Aust Para Regt Is anyone able to 100% confirm the headwear worn by the 1st Australian Parachute Regiment of WW2. I know that they sometimes wore the slouch hat. Was there any other? Does anyone have access to any photos of the Unit? (other than AWM) Cheers, Ted Harris ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is happening.