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    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Australian Defence Medal insult
    2. Miss Fedelmar
    3. Interesting to see you here on the list Phillip. I am still waiting for you to return to me the only original photograph of my grandfather in uniform. Bright Blessings, Sandra. My Web Pages - http://tinyurl.com/o3mad MSN Messenger - fedelmar@hotmail.com MSN Spaces - http://spaces.msn.com/fedelmar/ ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* From: murkolein <murkolein@bigpond.com> To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Australian Defence Medal insult Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:07:30 +1000 I went and checked - yes, "despatch functions ... by overseas entities". The intelligence service of that particular country(ies) will be able to take extended holidays - being supplied with a list of all trained (that was one of the bases of the medal, the length of time for proficient training) service personnel in the ADF (including current serving), not only name rank & service number, but address, phone, email etc. as you say. And, yes, more jobs exported and proliferating the Asian sweat shops. I think this should be raised for politicians to question and debate in Parliament. I'm going to contact my Federal Member. All the Best Phillip MURPHY -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

    04/05/2006 12:35:47
    1. Australian Defence Medal possible ambiguity
    2. Anthony Staunton
    3. Eldon R. J. Bryant wrote that there was an ambiguity in the following paragraphs: * Ex-serving personnel who have served for four years [or have completed a lesser initial enlistment period] either as an ADF Regular or Reserve member since the end of World War II [3 September 1945] are eligible for the medal. ** National Servicemen will also be eligible for the ADM, as the completion of their National Service obligation will be considered as completion of an initial enlistment period of service. "" The first paragraph states you get the medal if you served a) four years or b) have completed a lesser initial enlistment period. The second paragraph is giving an example of b) in the first paragraph. I am not sure what the other interpretations are. By the way, the Minister assisting the Minister for Defence is the minister responsible for Defence personnel matters including honours and awards. He happens to be the same person as the Minister for Veterans' Affairs but it will be medal experts from the Defence Department rather than Veterans Affairs who draft the reply. Anthony Staunton

    04/05/2006 12:33:24
    1. Mother's Medal
    2. Alan & Elayne Whatman
    3. This medal was not only given to Mothers. I have the one given to my mother (with one star) for my father serving during WWII. I also have a heart shaped pendant made from a 2/- and 1/- on top of each other piece by my father. Part of the 2/- piece is can be seen on the back. It is engraved on the front with my mother's name and the year 1942. Elayne

    04/05/2006 11:47:06
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Mother's Badges
    2. Paul & Kathryn Lucas
    3. My Grandmother was given a mother's badge WW11. Go to my site to see the photo (No 7) http://www.angelfire.com/planet/agjones/photos/?i=20 Regards Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Mother's Badges > Hi Everyone, > > I am back working on Annie Whitelaw of Briagolong, Victoria, who had > eight sons. Six served in WWI, and a seventh in WWII (but after his > mother had died). > > Of the six in WWI, three were killed in action and one died of wounds > a few years after returning to Australia. > > In the back of my mind is that mothers of either sons who were > serving, or sons who were lost, were awarded some form of badge, > although I cannot remember if this was WWI or WWII. > > Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about them, and > what would have happened, if they were WWI, if a mother had six sons. > Were badges of a bar-type where there something added for each son??? > > Thanks! > > Linda > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/301 - Release Date: 04-Apr-06 > >

    04/05/2006 10:49:04
    1. RE: Mother's Badges
    2. Peter Thomas
    3. G'day, I have seen "silver" badges issued to mothers in respect of WW2. A bar was suspended below it, with stars indicating how many sons (&/or daughters, perhaps) had enlisted. The badges were brooch-style, about 30mm diameter. I gather that the badges were numbered on the back - which makes you wonder if there might be something at NAA about them. I believe that the badges were issued during the war, as an indirect part of the recruiting effort: no self-respecting mother would want to be seen without her badge ... An interesting question might be whether or not sons who enlisted, but not for overseas service, counted toward the "stars" on the bar. I can't recall hearing of anything comparable in WW1, but will be interested to read what other Listers contribute on this subject. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough [mailto:kapana@netspace.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2006 9:44 AM To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Mother's Badges Hi Everyone, I am back working on Annie Whitelaw of Briagolong, Victoria, who had eight sons. Six served in WWI, and a seventh in WWII (but after his mother had died). Of the six in WWI, three were killed in action and one died of wounds a few years after returning to Australia. I have a photo of her headstone at http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/11/annie-whitelaw.html In the back of my mind is that mothers of either sons who were serving, or sons who were lost, were awarded some form of badge, although I cannot remember if this was WWI or WWII. Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about them, and what would have happened, if they were WWI, if a mother had six sons. Were badges of a bar-type where there something added for each son??? Thanks! Linda ______________________________

    04/05/2006 10:31:35
    1. " Australian Defence Medal - Fact Sheet". AUS-MILITARY POST..
    2. Eldon R. J. Bryant
    3. Interested AUS-MILITARY Mailing List subscribers, For your information, excerpts from the 'AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE MEDAL - FACT SHEET' read as follows: "" ELIGIBILITY It is estimated that over one million serving and ex-serving ADF members will be eligible for the medal. * Ex-serving personnel who have served for four years [or have completed a lesser initial enlistment period] either as an ADF Regular or Reserve member since the end of World War ll [3 September 1945] are eligible for the medal. Eligibility for the medal has been extended to those personnel who: >> have died in service; or >> have been medically discharged with a compensatory impairment at the time >> of their discharge, rendering them unable to serve the minimum qualifying >> period; or >> have honourably served but, due to some Defence workplace enlistment >> policies of the time [as determined by the Chief of the Defence Force], >> were unable to serve the minimum qualifying period. ** National Servicemen will also be eligible for the ADM, as the completion of their National Service obligation will be considered as completion of an initial enlistment period of service. "" Personally, I find above paragraphs identified as * and ** somewhat ambiguous and in need of urgent and exact clarification by the Minister for Veteran Affairs'. This I am endeavouring to accomplish through my local Federal Government MP and the Minister for Veteran Affairs'. Any tangible replies will be posted to the AUS-MILITARY Mailing List immediately they come to hand. Ubique Eldon Bryant...........

    04/05/2006 08:29:47
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Australian Defence Medal insult
    2. murkolein
    3. I went and checked - yes, "despatch functions ... by overseas entities". The intelligence service of that particular country(ies) will be able to take extended holidays - being supplied with a list of all trained (that was one of the bases of the medal, the length of time for proficient training) service personnel in the ADF (including current serving), not only name rank & service number, but address, phone, email etc. as you say. And, yes, more jobs exported and proliferating the Asian sweat shops. I think this should be raised for politicians to question and debate in Parliament. I'm going to contact my Federal Member. All the Best Phillip MURPHY ---- Ted HARRIS <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > > The Application Form for the new Australian Defence Medal has a disclaimer on it noting that the medal will be engraved packed and dispatched from or by "overseas entities". > > Yes, boys and girls, your new medal recognizing your contribution to the defence of Australia will come from an Asian sweat shop, possibly using child labour and probably situated in a country that is not a full democracy. > > Part of the deal is that the Asian firm needs to get all your personal details:- name, address, phone, email. > > Sort of makes you feel warm and tingly inside doesn't it? > > I wonder where the medals were made? > > Ha-so! I hope they get spelling light. > > ********************************************* > > Thanks to all who replied to my question. Next time I will read the fine print. > > > > Cheers, > Ted Harris > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html >

    04/05/2006 08:07:30
    1. Australian Defence Medal insult
    2. Ted HARRIS
    3. The Application Form for the new Australian Defence Medal has a disclaimer on it noting that the medal will be engraved packed and dispatched from or by "overseas entities". Yes, boys and girls, your new medal recognizing your contribution to the defence of Australia will come from an Asian sweat shop, possibly using child labour and probably situated in a country that is not a full democracy. Part of the deal is that the Asian firm needs to get all your personal details:- name, address, phone, email. Sort of makes you feel warm and tingly inside doesn't it? I wonder where the medals were made? Ha-so! I hope they get spelling light. ********************************************* Thanks to all who replied to my question. Next time I will read the fine print. Cheers, Ted Harris

    04/05/2006 07:47:49
    1. Re: Mother's Badges
    2. Ted HARRIS
    3. http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-badges/civilian2.htm will tell all Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Mother's Badges > Hi Everyone, > > I am back working on Annie Whitelaw of Briagolong, Victoria, who had > eight sons. Six served in WWI, and a seventh in WWII (but after his > mother had died). > > Of the six in WWI, three were killed in action and one died of wounds > a few years after returning to Australia. > > I have a photo of her headstone > at http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/11/annie-whitelaw.html > > In the back of my mind is that mothers of either sons who were > serving, or sons who were lost, were awarded some form of badge, > although I cannot remember if this was WWI or WWII. > > Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about them, and > what would have happened, if they were WWI, if a mother had six sons. > Were badges of a bar-type where there something added for each son??? > > Thanks! > > Linda > > ______________________________

    04/05/2006 07:45:06
    1. Australian Defence Medal applications
    2. South Coast Promotions
    3. Applications are now available through Joanna Gash office. PO 1009 Nowra 2541 Contact pH; 02 4423 1782 Burns Shawn <Shawn.Burns@aph.gov.au> He is the media & public relations for Federal member of Gilmore Joanna Gash, she is the chair of the Australia Defence committee that has done this work Cathy Dunn At 12:43 PM 5/04/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi to all; > >I served my National Service in 1952 (90days), my obligation to evening >training plus annual 2 weeks. I then enlisted in the CMF (now termed >Reserve) served 2 years and resigned to enlisted in the ARA served 9 years. >During this 9 years I served in TPNG, Malaya, Malaysia, Borneo (possibly >also Brunei). I also served in Singapore before it joined Malaysia, >during the brief period in which it was part of Malaysia and after Lee >Kwan Yeu declared Singapore's independence). > >My service gives me an unusual group, which may also include a British >award if I knew how and where to apply. I am entitled to all the awards >being discussed here, including the proposed Malaysian medal due sometime >in 2006. >I mention this as an indication that service (for awards) in our armed >forces can take many forms. > >regards > >to everyone. > >keven sparks >Paul Kean wrote: >>G'day all, >> >>I sent this to Ted, but meant to send it to the list. >> >>The following quote from DoD website says it all. >>Essentially, David, you are correct. >> >>"National servicemen will also be eligible for the >>ADM, as the completion of their National Service >>obligation will be considered as completion of an >>initial enlistment period of service." >> >>Regards, >>..Paul >>--- davin evans <davinevans@msn.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi List, here is an quote from the original email on >>>this thread >>> >>>"The Australian Defence Medal will be issued to >>>those members who served in either the regular defence forces, the >>>reserves or >>>through national service and who completed their initial terms or 4 years, >>>whichever is the lesser. " >>> >>>Thus I would assume National Servicemen, like my >>>father who completed his 2 years service (being his "initial term") >>>including a >>>year in Vietnam Dec1967 - Dec1968 with 3 RAR, are eligable for this medal. >>> >>>Regards >>>Davin Evans >>> >>> >>>>From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >>>>Reply-To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>>>To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>>> >>> [REPLY] >>> >>>>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:20:36 +1000 >>>> >>>>Ted >>>>In the 1950's program, quite often after they did >>>> >>>their period of national >>>>service, they continued on. My uncle went in a >>>> >>>national service man and >>>>went onto being an Captain. I think may others >>>> >>>stayed on after their >>>>period of service. >>>> >>>>Mike Boyd >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" >>>> >>><tedharris@ozemail.com.au> >>> >>>>To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM >>>>Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>>> >>>[REPLY] >>> >>>> >>>>>Please set me straight. I was under the impression >>>>> >>>that the new medal >>> >>>>>required at least 4 years service. >>>>> >>>>>If that is the case how will National Servicemen >>>>> >>>have a claim/ >>> >>>>>Where am I going wrong? >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Ted Harris >>>>> >>>>==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >>>>AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go >>>> >>>to the list. Please >>>>check your replies before sending, to make sure >>>> >>>that is what you know is >>>>happening. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > >==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 >http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/

    04/05/2006 07:20:50
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. South Coast Promotions
    3. Contact Burns Shawn <Shawn.Burns@aph.gov.au> He is the media & public relations for Federal member of Gilmore Joanna Gash, she is the chair of the Australia Defence committee that has done this work Cathy Dunn At 12:43 PM 5/04/2006 +1000, you wrote: >Hi to all; > >I served my National Service in 1952 (90days), my obligation to evening >training plus annual 2 weeks. I then enlisted in the CMF (now termed >Reserve) served 2 years and resigned to enlisted in the ARA served 9 years. >During this 9 years I served in TPNG, Malaya, Malaysia, Borneo (possibly >also Brunei). I also served in Singapore before it joined Malaysia, >during the brief period in which it was part of Malaysia and after Lee >Kwan Yeu declared Singapore's independence). > >My service gives me an unusual group, which may also include a British >award if I knew how and where to apply. I am entitled to all the awards >being discussed here, including the proposed Malaysian medal due sometime >in 2006. >I mention this as an indication that service (for awards) in our armed >forces can take many forms. > >regards > >to everyone. > >keven sparks >Paul Kean wrote: >>G'day all, >> >>I sent this to Ted, but meant to send it to the list. >> >>The following quote from DoD website says it all. >>Essentially, David, you are correct. >> >>"National servicemen will also be eligible for the >>ADM, as the completion of their National Service >>obligation will be considered as completion of an >>initial enlistment period of service." >> >>Regards, >>..Paul >>--- davin evans <davinevans@msn.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi List, here is an quote from the original email on >>>this thread >>> >>>"The Australian Defence Medal will be issued to >>>those members who served in either the regular defence forces, the >>>reserves or >>>through national service and who completed their initial terms or 4 years, >>>whichever is the lesser. " >>> >>>Thus I would assume National Servicemen, like my >>>father who completed his 2 years service (being his "initial term") >>>including a >>>year in Vietnam Dec1967 - Dec1968 with 3 RAR, are eligable for this medal. >>> >>>Regards >>>Davin Evans >>> >>> >>>>From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >>>>Reply-To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>>>To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>>>Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>>> >>> [REPLY] >>> >>>>Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:20:36 +1000 >>>> >>>>Ted >>>>In the 1950's program, quite often after they did >>>> >>>their period of national >>>>service, they continued on. My uncle went in a >>>> >>>national service man and >>>>went onto being an Captain. I think may others >>>> >>>stayed on after their >>>>period of service. >>>> >>>>Mike Boyd >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" >>>> >>><tedharris@ozemail.com.au> >>> >>>>To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM >>>>Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>>> >>>[REPLY] >>> >>>> >>>>>Please set me straight. I was under the impression >>>>> >>>that the new medal >>> >>>>>required at least 4 years service. >>>>> >>>>>If that is the case how will National Servicemen >>>>> >>>have a claim/ >>> >>>>>Where am I going wrong? >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>>Ted Harris >>>>> >>>>==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >>>>AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go >>>> >>>to the list. Please >>>>check your replies before sending, to make sure >>>> >>>that is what you know is >>>>happening. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > >==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >Milton Ulladulla Boer War & WW1 >http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war/

    04/05/2006 07:13:14
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. Keven
    3. Hi to all; I served my National Service in 1952 (90days), my obligation to evening training plus annual 2 weeks. I then enlisted in the CMF (now termed Reserve) served 2 years and resigned to enlisted in the ARA served 9 years. During this 9 years I served in TPNG, Malaya, Malaysia, Borneo (possibly also Brunei). I also served in Singapore before it joined Malaysia, during the brief period in which it was part of Malaysia and after Lee Kwan Yeu declared Singapore's independence). My service gives me an unusual group, which may also include a British award if I knew how and where to apply. I am entitled to all the awards being discussed here, including the proposed Malaysian medal due sometime in 2006. I mention this as an indication that service (for awards) in our armed forces can take many forms. regards to everyone. keven sparks Paul Kean wrote: > G'day all, > > I sent this to Ted, but meant to send it to the list. > > The following quote from DoD website says it all. > Essentially, David, you are correct. > > "National servicemen will also be eligible for the > ADM, as the completion of their National Service > obligation will be considered as completion of an > initial enlistment period of service." > > Regards, > ..Paul > --- davin evans <davinevans@msn.com> wrote: > > >> Hi List, here is an quote from the original email on >> this thread >> >> "The Australian Defence Medal will be issued to >> those members who served in >> either the regular defence forces, the reserves or >> through national service >> and who completed their initial terms or 4 years, >> whichever is the lesser. " >> >> Thus I would assume National Servicemen, like my >> father who completed his 2 >> years service (being his "initial term") including a >> year in Vietnam Dec1967 >> - Dec1968 with 3 RAR, are eligable for this medal. >> >> Regards >> Davin Evans >> >> >>> From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >>> Reply-To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>> To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>> >> [REPLY] >> >>> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:20:36 +1000 >>> >>> Ted >>> In the 1950's program, quite often after they did >>> >> their period of national >> >>> service, they continued on. My uncle went in a >>> >> national service man and >> >>> went onto being an Captain. I think may others >>> >> stayed on after their >> >>> period of service. >>> >>> Mike Boyd >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" >>> >> <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> >> >>> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM >>> Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal >>> >> [REPLY] >> >>> >>>> Please set me straight. I was under the impression >>>> >> that the new medal >> >>>> required at least 4 years service. >>>> >>>> If that is the case how will National Servicemen >>>> >> have a claim/ >> >>>> Where am I going wrong? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ted Harris >>>> >>> ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >>> AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go >>> >> to the list. Please >> >>> check your replies before sending, to make sure >>> >> that is what you know is >> >>> happening. >>> >>> >> > > >

    04/05/2006 06:43:21
    1. Mother's Badges
    2. Linda Barraclough
    3. Hi Everyone, I am back working on Annie Whitelaw of Briagolong, Victoria, who had eight sons. Six served in WWI, and a seventh in WWII (but after his mother had died). Of the six in WWI, three were killed in action and one died of wounds a few years after returning to Australia. I have a photo of her headstone at http://kapana.blogspot.com/2005/11/annie-whitelaw.html In the back of my mind is that mothers of either sons who were serving, or sons who were lost, were awarded some form of badge, although I cannot remember if this was WWI or WWII. Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about them, and what would have happened, if they were WWI, if a mother had six sons. Were badges of a bar-type where there something added for each son??? Thanks! Linda

    04/05/2006 04:13:32
    1. Mother's Badges
    2. Linda Barraclough
    3. Hi Everyone, I am back working on Annie Whitelaw of Briagolong, Victoria, who had eight sons. Six served in WWI, and a seventh in WWII (but after his mother had died). Of the six in WWI, three were killed in action and one died of wounds a few years after returning to Australia. In the back of my mind is that mothers of either sons who were serving, or sons who were lost, were awarded some form of badge, although I cannot remember if this was WWI or WWII. Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about them, and what would have happened, if they were WWI, if a mother had six sons. Were badges of a bar-type where there something added for each son??? Thanks! Linda

    04/05/2006 04:09:55
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. Paul Kean
    3. G'day all, I sent this to Ted, but meant to send it to the list. The following quote from DoD website says it all. Essentially, David, you are correct. "National servicemen will also be eligible for the ADM, as the completion of their National Service obligation will be considered as completion of an initial enlistment period of service." Regards, ..Paul --- davin evans <davinevans@msn.com> wrote: > Hi List, here is an quote from the original email on > this thread > > "The Australian Defence Medal will be issued to > those members who served in > either the regular defence forces, the reserves or > through national service > and who completed their initial terms or 4 years, > whichever is the lesser. " > > Thus I would assume National Servicemen, like my > father who completed his 2 > years service (being his "initial term") including a > year in Vietnam Dec1967 > - Dec1968 with 3 RAR, are eligable for this medal. > > Regards > Davin Evans > > >From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > >Reply-To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > >To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal > [REPLY] > >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:20:36 +1000 > > > >Ted > >In the 1950's program, quite often after they did > their period of national > >service, they continued on. My uncle went in a > national service man and > >went onto being an Captain. I think may others > stayed on after their > >period of service. > > > >Mike Boyd > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" > <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> > >To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM > >Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal > [REPLY] > > > > > >>Please set me straight. I was under the impression > that the new medal > >>required at least 4 years service. > >> > >>If that is the case how will National Servicemen > have a claim/ > >> > >>Where am I going wrong? > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Ted Harris > > > > > >==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > >AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go > to the list. Please > >check your replies before sending, to make sure > that is what you know is > >happening. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. > Find out more. > http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx > > > ==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== > First AIF Order of Battle 1914-1918 > http://www.adfa.edu.au/~rmallett/index.html > > ____________________________________________________ On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

    04/05/2006 04:02:31
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. davin evans
    3. Hi List, here is an quote from the original email on this thread "The Australian Defence Medal will be issued to those members who served in either the regular defence forces, the reserves or through national service and who completed their initial terms or 4 years, whichever is the lesser. " Thus I would assume National Servicemen, like my father who completed his 2 years service (being his "initial term") including a year in Vietnam Dec1967 - Dec1968 with 3 RAR, are eligable for this medal. Regards Davin Evans >From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> >Reply-To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY] >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:20:36 +1000 > >Ted >In the 1950's program, quite often after they did their period of national >service, they continued on. My uncle went in a national service man and >went onto being an Captain. I think may others stayed on after their >period of service. > >Mike Boyd >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> >To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM >Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY] > > >>Please set me straight. I was under the impression that the new medal >>required at least 4 years service. >> >>If that is the case how will National Servicemen have a claim/ >> >>Where am I going wrong? >> >>Cheers, >>Ted Harris > > >==== AUS-MILITARY Mailing List ==== >AUS-MILITARY is set so that, by default, replies go to the list. Please >check your replies before sending, to make sure that is what you know is >happening. > _________________________________________________________________ Read, write and reply to Hotmail on your mobile. Find out more. http://mobilecentral.ninemsn.com.au/mcmobileHotmail/home.aspx

    04/05/2006 03:40:42
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Ted In the 1950's program, quite often after they did their period of national service, they continued on. My uncle went in a national service man and went onto being an Captain. I think may others stayed on after their period of service. Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted HARRIS" <tedharris@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [AUS-MIL] Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY] > Please set me straight. I was under the impression that the new medal > required at least 4 years service. > > If that is the case how will National Servicemen have a claim/ > > Where am I going wrong? > > Cheers, > Ted Harris

    04/05/2006 02:20:36
    1. Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. Ted HARRIS
    3. Please set me straight. I was under the impression that the new medal required at least 4 years service. If that is the case how will National Servicemen have a claim/ Where am I going wrong? Cheers, Ted Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eldon R. J. Bryant" <artillery.oz@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY] > Albert, > > Greetings from Townsville, North Queensland...... > > It is suggested that, the largest percentage of > eligible Australian ex-service people, especially > National Servicemen, who will lay claim to > being a recipient of the Australian Defence > Medal [ADM] by procuring and completing > appropriate Application Form [AD 497 - > Revised Mar 2006] have never given any > support to the various Ex-Servicemen > Associations who have been busy for some > years lobbying the Federal Government > Ministers and Politicians [MP's] of all > political persuasions by offering their > encouragement and genuine SUPPORT. > > With the recent announcement by > Canberra re the ADM, many > Ex-Servicemen and Ex-Servicewomen > may consider the matter closed, but I > assure you and other AUS-MILITARY > Mailing List readers, it is NOT, as there > is still the outstanding RSL National > Conference Resolutions from 2003, > 2004 and 2005. > > If you or any other reader are > interested in sighting the above > referred to RSL RESOLUTIONS, > please make such a request of me > OFF-LIST. There is still time to > give your SUPPORT! > > Ubique > > Eldon Bryant............... artillery.oz@bigpond.com > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert Abel" <albie@tpg.com.au> > To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:42 PM > Subject: Australian Defence Medal > > > > The Application Forms for the Australian Defence Medal, and the criteria, > > are available at the following URL. > > > > Regards > > Albert > > http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dpe_site/honours_awards/ > > > > ______________________________ > > ______________________________

    04/05/2006 01:41:25
    1. Re: Australian Defence Medal [REPLY]
    2. Eldon R. J. Bryant
    3. Albert, Greetings from Townsville, North Queensland...... It is suggested that, the largest percentage of eligible Australian ex-service people, especially National Servicemen, who will lay claim to being a recipient of the Australian Defence Medal [ADM] by procuring and completing appropriate Application Form [AD 497 - Revised Mar 2006] have never given any support to the various Ex-Servicemen Associations who have been busy for some years lobbying the Federal Government Ministers and Politicians [MP's] of all political persuasions by offering their encouragement and genuine SUPPORT. With the recent announcement by Canberra re the ADM, many Ex-Servicemen and Ex-Servicewomen may consider the matter closed, but I assure you and other AUS-MILITARY Mailing List readers, it is NOT, as there is still the outstanding RSL National Conference Resolutions from 2003, 2004 and 2005. If you or any other reader are interested in sighting the above referred to RSL RESOLUTIONS, please make such a request of me OFF-LIST. There is still time to give your SUPPORT! Ubique Eldon Bryant............... artillery.oz@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Abel" <albie@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Australian Defence Medal > The Application Forms for the Australian Defence Medal, and the criteria, > are available at the following URL. > > Regards > Albert > http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dpe_site/honours_awards/ > > ______________________________

    04/04/2006 06:23:24
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Veterans Corps
    2. E.J. Langford
    3. Many thanks for sending me in the right direction Mike & Ted. Looks like the time frame doesn't fit my man. Pity, would have been interesting. Thanks, John

    04/03/2006 12:05:28