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    1. [AUS-MIL] Conference on New Zealand and the Second World War
    2. John Wilson
    3. Hi All: A conference is to be held in Wellington on 13-15 February 2020 on New Zealand and World War II. The speakers (25) include Dr Jonathan Fennell of King’s College, London, an expert on British and Commonwealth armies in World War II. The venue is to be Massey University in Wellington. Email me for details of the conference (in attachments, from the New Zealand Military History Committee) or write to Box 9724, Wellington 6141. The brochure has a 1939 quote from Prime Minister Michael Savage: “The war on which we are entering may be a long one, demanding from us heavy and continuous sacrifice”. New Zealand had been a critic of the British appeasement policy, speaking in support of Ethiopia and China (attacked by Italy and Japan). Yours, John Wilson

    11/13/2019 03:36:12
    1. War Service Record Numbers
    2. Nandina Morris
    3. Good morning listers - I am new to this list and have not lurked long enough to know what kinds of questions are easily answered. With Anzac day still in our memories, I thought I should include a list at least of the family members who have served for Australia in the next family newsletter. I need to find service record numbers for the following family members who served in WW1, any additional information if available will be hugely appreciated. RUSSELL- Rev Howard Castleton, was rural dean in Mildura , born 1885 in Sandhurst RUSSELL - Robert Jeffrey Panther, born 1892.. AIF 1914-18 RUSSELL - George Benson - born 1893 (There are more to come, these were all brothers). Your assistance is most appreciated. Cheers, Nandina ----------

    08/22/2018 06:00:00
    1. [AUS-MIL] 'Stray' army papers ?
    2. Trawling through my father's papers, I come across notes, some objects, mementos, etc. some of which tends to be a little disjointed, for lack of a better term. I have difficulty in knowing how to handle and after I photograph, scan or whatever, who should I will it to? Have thought of the A.W.M. for the military material but they have such volumes of material but some, I feel, will never be seen again? This latest piece of paper is a 9 a.m. Church Service on board an American vessel going to Torikina, Solomon Islands dated Sunday 24 June 1945. My mother has noted on the front that the "siren sounded for submarine alarm. Did not finish service." Also noted on the front are three Americans (sailors?) in their own hand with addresses (of that time) but the rank designated I do not know; can anybody suggest what they might be? Not vital information, I know, but just curious: Harry R. Hokanson, YLC - 5300 Turney Road, Garfield Heights, Cleveland (5) Ohio John R. Skiller, Rd.M.2c - RR. #3 Box 163, Parkville, Missouri E.V. Taylor, CMOMM - 2761 W. Clarendon Drive, Dallas -11- Texas One thing family members might like to know that these three guys were in a special place at a special time?

    04/25/2018 08:43:19
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892
    2. Lynne Thompson
    3. Thanks for that information, John, most helpful. Lynne On 14/11/2017 12:07 PM, John Wilson wrote: > Hi Lynne: The standard rifle in British and Commonwealth armies from > c1895 was the Lee Enfield, which replaced the Lee Metford (c1888), > which replaced the Martini-Henry and Martini-Enfield. But local or > territorial forces would still be using the Martini-Henry or > Martini-Enfield rifles. > > The SMLE or Short Magazine Lee Enfield was used in New Zealand forces > from 1907, remaining in service for over 50 years and replacing the > the Magazine Lee Enfield (MLE) . While they may not be accurate over > the longer ranges mentioned, they could still be lethal at those > ranges! From memories of school cadets in Wellington College, New > Zealand in the 1950s, the rifles could be modified with a liner tube > to shoot .22  rather than .303 bullets. Once on the school range, > someone managed to shoot a butterfly which had wandered over the range! > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee Enfield > > Yours, John Wilson > > Could someone please tell me what sort of rifles would have been used > for "Range Practice" in a South Australian country town in 1892. > > The local Foot Company were doing Rifle Practice and one of the Cadets > was killed while "Marking". > > Inquest said they were at the 800 yard mark and also the 600 yard mark. > I was trying to imagine a 303 (if that is what they used) hitting a > target at that distance.  I have been told that SLR's were only accurate > for 300 mtrs (c328 yards). Not sure if that is correct. > > Just wondering if rifles were more accurate or could this be a typo in > the Inquest. I am doing a local talk and would hate to give incorrect > info or be call out by a "gun expert" > The shooting was accidental as he was sitting in the Marker's Hut when > he was hit in the head. > > Looking forward to your thoughts, Lynne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/17/2017 10:28:12
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892
    2. John Wilson
    3. Hi Lynne: The standard rifle in British and Commonwealth armies from c1895 was the Lee Enfield, which replaced the Lee Metford (c1888), which replaced the Martini-Henry and Martini-Enfield. But local or territorial forces would still be using the Martini-Henry or Martini-Enfield rifles. The SMLE or Short Magazine Lee Enfield was used in New Zealand forces from 1907, remaining in service for over 50 years and replacing the the Magazine Lee Enfield (MLE) . While they may not be accurate over the longer ranges mentioned, they could still be lethal at those ranges! From memories of school cadets in Wellington College, New Zealand in the 1950s, the rifles could be modified with a liner tube to shoot .22 rather than .303 bullets. Once on the school range, someone managed to shoot a butterfly which had wandered over the range! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee Enfield Yours, John Wilson Could someone please tell me what sort of rifles would have been used for "Range Practice" in a South Australian country town in 1892. The local Foot Company were doing Rifle Practice and one of the Cadets was killed while "Marking". Inquest said they were at the 800 yard mark and also the 600 yard mark. I was trying to imagine a 303 (if that is what they used) hitting a target at that distance. I have been told that SLR's were only accurate for 300 mtrs (c328 yards). Not sure if that is correct. Just wondering if rifles were more accurate or could this be a typo in the Inquest. I am doing a local talk and would hate to give incorrect info or be call out by a "gun expert" The shooting was accidental as he was sitting in the Marker's Hut when he was hit in the head. Looking forward to your thoughts, Lynne

    11/14/2017 07:37:57
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Medal with Simpson & his donkey
    2. Shirlee Cantwell
    3. It could be an ANZAC Commemorative Medal as explained in this link http://medals.nzdf.mil.nz/category/f/f4.html Shirlee Wellington, NZ -----Original Message----- From: vivmartin37@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 4:58 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] Medal with Simpson & his donkey Hi Folks Trying to unravel a quotation from some old correspondence as given to me: Here's the description in her letter "Approx 6 ins across, bronze colour, dated 1915, marked T Martin Anzac, Simpson and his donkey on one side and royal head on the reverse" Have you any idea what this would be seems a bit big for a medal. All I have is the description from Ann's letter. If I am correct about which T Martin referred to, he was at Gallipoli and somewhere in action was wounded in the face, not necessarily at Gallipoli. Any help as to which medal, plaque or medallion would be appreciated. Thanks Viv Martin . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/12/2017 02:23:33
    1. [AUS-MIL] Medal with Simpson & his donkey
    2. Hi Folks Trying to unravel a quotation from some old correspondence as given to me: Here's the description in her letter "Approx 6 ins across, bronze colour, dated 1915, marked T Martin Anzac, Simpson and his donkey on one side and royal head on the reverse" Have you any idea what this would be seems a bit big for a medal. All I have is the description from Ann's letter. If I am correct about which T Martin referred to, he was at Gallipoli and somewhere in action was wounded in the face, not necessarily at Gallipoli. Any help as to which medal, plaque or medallion would be appreciated. Thanks Viv Martin .

    11/12/2017 07:58:57
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892
    2. Lynne Thompson
    3. Thanks Mike, I only read the Inquest as it was reported in our local paper, hence why I thought it might be a typo. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Lynne On 16/10/2017 6:22 PM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Lynne > Yes a 303 rifle could shot over that distance if was being made in 1892. > > If I recall school cadets of the the 1958-62 period they were used to > target shot up to 1000 yards in the inter school's shooting competition. > > Funny the inquest did not say what type of rifle or even show a photo? > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > > -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Thompson > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:42 PM > To: Aus-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892 > > Could someone please tell me what sort of rifles would have been used > for "Range Practice" in a South Australian country town in 1892. > > The local Foot Company were doing Rifle Practice and one of the Cadets > was killed while "Marking". > > Inquest said they were at the 800 yard mark and also the 600 yard mark. > I was trying to imagine a 303 (if that is what they used) hitting a > target at that distance.  I have been told that SLR's were only accurate > for 300 mtrs (c328 yards). Not sure if that is correct. > > Just wondering if rifles were more accurate or could this be a typo in > the Inquest. I am doing a local talk and would hate to give incorrect > info or be call out by a "gun expert" > The shooting was accidental as he was sitting in the Marker's Hut when > he was hit in the head. > > Looking forward to your thoughts. > Lynne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/17/2017 12:23:32
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Lynne Yes a 303 rifle could shot over that distance if was being made in 1892. If I recall school cadets of the the 1958-62 period they were used to target shot up to 1000 yards in the inter school's shooting competition. Funny the inquest did not say what type of rifle or even show a photo? Mike Boyd Brisbane -----Original Message----- From: Lynne Thompson Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:42 PM To: Aus-MILITARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892 Could someone please tell me what sort of rifles would have been used for "Range Practice" in a South Australian country town in 1892. The local Foot Company were doing Rifle Practice and one of the Cadets was killed while "Marking". Inquest said they were at the 800 yard mark and also the 600 yard mark. I was trying to imagine a 303 (if that is what they used) hitting a target at that distance. I have been told that SLR's were only accurate for 300 mtrs (c328 yards). Not sure if that is correct. Just wondering if rifles were more accurate or could this be a typo in the Inquest. I am doing a local talk and would hate to give incorrect info or be call out by a "gun expert" The shooting was accidental as he was sitting in the Marker's Hut when he was hit in the head. Looking forward to your thoughts. Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/16/2017 11:52:20
    1. [AUS-MIL] Rifles in 1892
    2. Lynne Thompson
    3. Could someone please tell me what sort of rifles would have been used for "Range Practice" in a South Australian country town in 1892. The local Foot Company were doing Rifle Practice and one of the Cadets was killed while "Marking". Inquest said they were at the 800 yard mark and also the 600 yard mark.  I was trying to imagine a 303 (if that is what they used) hitting a target at that distance.  I have been told that SLR's were only accurate for 300 mtrs (c328 yards). Not sure if that is correct. Just wondering if rifles were more accurate or could this be a typo in the Inquest. I am doing a local talk and would hate to give incorrect info or be call out by a "gun expert" The shooting was accidental as he was sitting in the Marker's Hut when he was hit in the head. Looking forward to your thoughts. Lynne

    10/16/2017 11:12:11
    1. [AUS-MIL] test
    2. Lynne Thompson
    10/14/2017 10:30:20
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General"
    2. Eric Young
    3. Hi Matt, I am very familiar with the designation of "D.A.C.G.", and Viv Martin is quite correct with his answer to you of "Deputy Assistant Commissary General". You will more frequently come across this designation as "D.A.C.G." after the person's name in the old newspapers. I have two of these in my family ancestry, both related to my g-g-g grandfather, Major Boyle Octavius LOANE, late of the 4th Ceylon Regt. of Foot, who migrated to Tasmania in 1825. The first was LOANE's nephew, Henry CONNELL, who migrated to Sydney in 1825. CONNELL apparently spent some time as a secretary to the Governor, Sir Thomas Brisbane, and later as a Treasury Clerk. He was serving in the Commissariat Department in 1834. The Army List of 1860 records that he received his commission as D.A.C.G on 31 Dec 1844, and that of A.C.G on 2 Jan 1856 (stationed in New Zealand). The second was John TOMES, who married LOANE's daughter, Frances, in 1845 at Hobart. John served as D.A.C.G. at Hobart, Norfolk Island, and later in New Zealand. I have not come across KENNEDY in my research - I suggest you try to locate him in Army Lists. Eric Y. Blue Mountains From: Matt Hall Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:36 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam][AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/01/2017 11:28:36
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7
    2. Viv Martin
    3. That's interesting - not the first time have had acronyms that have more than one meaning. Chaplain General Allen Brooke wrote to my father about an appointment of a chaplain after the defeat of Japan - " ..... and the authorities are sticking rigidly to the principle of making no promotions for prisoners of war." Two of the three chaplains had died. Anyway, the printed stationery has the coat of arms, 'phone numbers, addresses, etc but the heading at the top is: Department of the Army / (Adjutant-General) -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MILITARY [mailto:aus-military-bounces+viv=vivmartin.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of grimwade4@iinet.net.au Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 7:39 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 Hi Viv DAAG is Deputy Assistant Adjutant General Cheers -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:27 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 (Viv Martin) 2. Routine Orders WWII (just for a laugh) (Viv Martin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:15:24 +1000 From: Viv Martin <viv@vivmartin.com.au> To: <aus-military@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Message-ID: <019901d306b8$e207afa0$a6170ee0$@vivmartin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" D.A.C.G. sounds familiar but only in the context of WWII, not 1830 unfortunately! Went through Dad's papers and found wrong combinations but very similar - D.A. - Department of the Army A.G. - Adjutant General C.G. - Chaplain General D.A.A.G. - Department of the Army Adjutant General A.A.C.D. - Australian Army Chaplains Department Not much help I must admit -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MILITARY [mailto:aus-military-bounces+viv=vivmartin.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of grimwade4@iinet.net.au Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 5:08 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Not sure if this helps but in WW1 DAC stood for Divisional Ammunition Column Cheers Graham -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. "D. A. C. General" (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 22:36:18 -0400 From: Matt Hall <cispt2@gmail.com> To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Message-ID: <CAPX=cy8hL7eaWsnaBYJ1TDp2tTCQorvXHj_3HSS5Cd0Mn86TUQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 ******************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:27:09 +1000 From: Viv Martin <viv@vivmartin.com.au> To: <aus-military@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-MIL] Routine Orders WWII (just for a laugh) Message-ID: <019c01d306ba$8627df00$92779d00$@vivmartin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While looking for something else, came on this: ROUTINE ORDERS MOVEMENT ORDER FOR ENTRAINING PRIOR TO 8 DAYS LEAVE 1. Troops will stagger out of camp from the wet canteen which will be the forming up area. 2. All lunches will be carried in bottles and strapped firmly to the hip. 3. Bottle openers will be carried at the high port, spare boots will be hung from the chin strap. 4. "A" Company will be at the rear to pick up all the strays falling out from other companies. 5. Troops will entrain in their own time, at ease. 6. Privates will travel first class and will take up all seats. N.C.O.'s will stand up in passages. Sergeant Majors will ride on the buffers as they did before the war when jumping the rattler. 7. Colonels and spare Brigadiers will be tied up in bundles and labelled "not wanted on voyage." 8. Troops will detrain in column in lumps and storm the first objective which will be clearly marked B A R . BY ORDER SHARK BAIT (this is not the only bit of humour I have seen in my father's collection) If you don't understand some of this, get an older serviceman to explain ..... . ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 ******************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/27/2017 02:25:22
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General"
    2. Viv Martin
    3. Found it - Commissariat & Transport Staff rank = Deputy Assistant Commissary-General Did a search of NLA Trove and there are a number listed arriving into the Colony ! -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MILITARY [mailto:aus-military-bounces+viv=vivmartin.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hall Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:36 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/27/2017 01:56:30
    1. [AUS-MIL] Routine Orders WWII (just for a laugh)
    2. Viv Martin
    3. While looking for something else, came on this: ROUTINE ORDERS MOVEMENT ORDER FOR ENTRAINING PRIOR TO 8 DAYS LEAVE 1. Troops will stagger out of camp from the wet canteen which will be the forming up area. 2. All lunches will be carried in bottles and strapped firmly to the hip. 3. Bottle openers will be carried at the high port, spare boots will be hung from the chin strap. 4. "A" Company will be at the rear to pick up all the strays falling out from other companies. 5. Troops will entrain in their own time, at ease. 6. Privates will travel first class and will take up all seats. N.C.O.'s will stand up in passages. Sergeant Majors will ride on the buffers as they did before the war when jumping the rattler. 7. Colonels and spare Brigadiers will be tied up in bundles and labelled "not wanted on voyage." 8. Troops will detrain in column in lumps and storm the first objective which will be clearly marked B A R . BY ORDER SHARK BAIT (this is not the only bit of humour I have seen in my father's collection) If you don't understand some of this, get an older serviceman to explain ..... .

    07/27/2017 01:27:09
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5
    2. Viv Martin
    3. D.A.C.G. sounds familiar but only in the context of WWII, not 1830 unfortunately! Went through Dad's papers and found wrong combinations but very similar - D.A. - Department of the Army A.G. - Adjutant General C.G. - Chaplain General D.A.A.G. - Department of the Army Adjutant General A.A.C.D. - Australian Army Chaplains Department Not much help I must admit -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MILITARY [mailto:aus-military-bounces+viv=vivmartin.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of grimwade4@iinet.net.au Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 5:08 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Not sure if this helps but in WW1 DAC stood for Divisional Ammunition Column Cheers Graham -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. "D. A. C. General" (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 22:36:18 -0400 From: Matt Hall <cispt2@gmail.com> To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Message-ID: <CAPX=cy8hL7eaWsnaBYJ1TDp2tTCQorvXHj_3HSS5Cd0Mn86TUQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 ******************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/27/2017 01:15:24
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7
    2. Hi Viv DAAG is Deputy Assistant Adjutant General Cheers -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:27 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 (Viv Martin) 2. Routine Orders WWII (just for a laugh) (Viv Martin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:15:24 +1000 From: Viv Martin <viv@vivmartin.com.au> To: <aus-military@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Message-ID: <019901d306b8$e207afa0$a6170ee0$@vivmartin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" D.A.C.G. sounds familiar but only in the context of WWII, not 1830 unfortunately! Went through Dad's papers and found wrong combinations but very similar - D.A. - Department of the Army A.G. - Adjutant General C.G. - Chaplain General D.A.A.G. - Department of the Army Adjutant General A.A.C.D. - Australian Army Chaplains Department Not much help I must admit -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MILITARY [mailto:aus-military-bounces+viv=vivmartin.com.au@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of grimwade4@iinet.net.au Sent: Thursday, 27 July 2017 5:08 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Not sure if this helps but in WW1 DAC stood for Divisional Ammunition Column Cheers Graham -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. "D. A. C. General" (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 22:36:18 -0400 From: Matt Hall <cispt2@gmail.com> To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Message-ID: <CAPX=cy8hL7eaWsnaBYJ1TDp2tTCQorvXHj_3HSS5Cd0Mn86TUQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 ******************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:27:09 +1000 From: Viv Martin <viv@vivmartin.com.au> To: <aus-military@rootsweb.com> Subject: [AUS-MIL] Routine Orders WWII (just for a laugh) Message-ID: <019c01d306ba$8627df00$92779d00$@vivmartin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While looking for something else, came on this: ROUTINE ORDERS MOVEMENT ORDER FOR ENTRAINING PRIOR TO 8 DAYS LEAVE 1. Troops will stagger out of camp from the wet canteen which will be the forming up area. 2. All lunches will be carried in bottles and strapped firmly to the hip. 3. Bottle openers will be carried at the high port, spare boots will be hung from the chin strap. 4. "A" Company will be at the rear to pick up all the strays falling out from other companies. 5. Troops will entrain in their own time, at ease. 6. Privates will travel first class and will take up all seats. N.C.O.'s will stand up in passages. Sergeant Majors will ride on the buffers as they did before the war when jumping the rattler. 7. Colonels and spare Brigadiers will be tied up in bundles and labelled "not wanted on voyage." 8. Troops will detrain in column in lumps and storm the first objective which will be clearly marked B A R . BY ORDER SHARK BAIT (this is not the only bit of humour I have seen in my father's collection) If you don't understand some of this, get an older serviceman to explain ..... . ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 *******************************************

    07/27/2017 11:39:06
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General"
    2. Mike Boyd
    3. Matt You may need to contact the Public Records Office - or what ever its new name is - in Kew, London to see if they can tell you what this term meant in 1830. In 1830 Sydney, there was the Royal New South Wales Veterans Corps or Company and perhaps one British Regiment - name unknown to me, but the Australian National Library in Canberra, ACT should be able to tell you. I assume it was a position attached to the Governor of New South Wales. Mike Boyd Brisbane. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hall Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:36 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/27/2017 11:24:55
    1. Re: [AUS-MIL] AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5
    2. Not sure if this helps but in WW1 DAC stood for Divisional Ammunition Column Cheers Graham -----Original Message----- From: aus-military-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 Send AUS-MILITARY mailing list submissions to aus-military@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/aus-military or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to aus-military-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-military-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MILITARY digest..." Today's Topics: 1. "D. A. C. General" (Matt Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 22:36:18 -0400 From: Matt Hall <cispt2@gmail.com> To: aus-military@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General" Message-ID: <CAPX=cy8hL7eaWsnaBYJ1TDp2tTCQorvXHj_3HSS5Cd0Mn86TUQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the AUS-MILITARY list administrator, send an email to AUS-MILITARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the AUS-MILITARY mailing list, send an email to AUS-MILITARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-MILITARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of AUS-MILITARY Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 *******************************************

    07/27/2017 09:07:59
    1. [AUS-MIL] "D. A. C. General"
    2. Matt Hall
    3. Can anyone tell me what '"D. A. C. General" means? I see it in the context of colonial NSW associated with the military. Any info appreciated. In that context any info on James Hamilton Kennedy, Esq., D.A.C. General appreciated - he was in Sydney in 1830. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew D. Hall Darnestown, MD cell: +1 410 733 9444

    07/26/2017 04:36:18