Hi Lyn Great to hear from you ,hope you are keeping well ,,yes this Kenneth is a real problem ,,,what I'm trying to do is to find which Kenneth I should be obtaining the marriage information for. When I search the PROV site the only Kenneth I come up with has a father named Kenneth which is correct but the mother is Margaret Butler instead of Margaret Smith..and according to the Lancefield cemetery info he would have been born in 1847 not the 1844 that was on his marriage details??? Information from a very distant relation Geraldine Fennessy (Melbourne) who is related to John McKenzie (born 4/1/1843) has said that that on the birth information of the oldest son George (born 1839) the mother is recorded as Margaret Butler. Confusion reigns. Regards and take care. Ron -- Ron McKenzie Email: ronmac@tadaust.org.au Phone: 07-38141490 Brisbane Australia