G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with it in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been followed up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James Paterson born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie Kathleen Carroll. Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the grip of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and therefore no Death Certificate. Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive somewhere? He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician in a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he had been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but negative reply from an Inspector there. Any ideas as to where else I can look. Col Paterson Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast

Hi Col Have you tried getting the inquest for this man??? Or could he have died in another state other than Victoria?? Good luck with your search Darlene Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Query-----Surname : patterson (194 matches)Given Names : er* (2558 matches)Total matching records: 1-------------------- Surname: PATTERSONGiven Names: Ernest StanleyAge: Place: Year: 1977Reference: 1875Sex: Cause: Occupation: Inq Date: 1977-9-10Nationality: Ship: Notes: > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:49:12 +1000> Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Mystery Death> > G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with it> in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been followed> up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. > I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James Paterson> born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie> Kathleen Carroll. > Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the grip> of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and> therefore no Death Certificate.> Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive> somewhere? > He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician in> a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a> death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The> Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he had> been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but> negative reply from an Inspector there.> Any ideas as to where else I can look.> Col Paterson> Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

Hello Col, This wouldn't be your man would it? - Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Query ----- Surname : Paterson (901 matches) Given Names : Ernest James (761 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: PATERSON Given Names: Ernest James Father: Unknown Mother: UNKNOWN Death Place: MELB Age: 55 Age Code: Year: 1976 Reg Number: 2047 Event: D His age puts his birth around 1920/21 so it's a possibility, but then you may have already looked at it. Cheers, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Col Paterson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Mystery Death > G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with > it > in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been > followed > up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. > I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James > Paterson > born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie > Kathleen Carroll. > Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the > grip > of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and > therefore no Death Certificate. > Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive > somewhere? > He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician > in > a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a > death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The > Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he > had > been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but > negative reply from an Inspector there. > Any ideas as to where else I can look. > Col Paterson > Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 4:08 PM

Col The death indexes do only go to 1985 and it is possible he died after that date. If he was in the grip of the grape he may have been preserved for a few more years. Or perhaps he went interstate. If his wife had a death cert, is there any children listed on there. And also have you tried for a will? You could try his wife and for him. Available at Prov, if he had died and his wife had a will this would be mentioned. Carmel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Col Paterson Sent: Saturday, 11 October, 2008 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Mystery Death G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with it in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been followed up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James Paterson born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie Kathleen Carroll. Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the grip of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and therefore no Death Certificate. Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive somewhere? He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician in a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he had been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but negative reply from an Inspector there. Any ideas as to where else I can look. Col Paterson Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Col, Is it possible that your cousin's name was Ernest Stanley PATTERSON as there is an entry on the Vic. Inquest Cd in that name - see below: Surname: PATTERSON Given Names: Ernest Stanley Year: 1977 Reference: 1875 Occupation: Inq Date: 1977-9-10 Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Col Paterson Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2008 12:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Mystery Death G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with it in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been followed up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James Paterson born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie Kathleen Carroll. Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the grip of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and therefore no Death Certificate. Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive somewhere? He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician in a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he had been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but negative reply from an Inspector there. Any ideas as to where else I can look. Col Paterson Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 4:08 PM

Thanks Ann, but no that's not him. Allabest Col