Hello. I wonder if anyone has information on Sidney Valentine Sewell, later Sir Sidney? He married Alice Maud CUNNING in Victotia, Australia on 18.3.1908. I would like to hear from you, to swap information. Cheers, Bob in Melbourne

Greetings fellow Listers, Thanks to Maria and Anne who replied so far. Regards Nigel Boundy --- Maria Celano <maria.celano@gmail.com> wrote: > you can also check for the State Library of Victoria > they also have a web site > Maria > > > On 1/15/06, Nigel Boundy <nigelbb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Greetings fellow Listers, > > > > I am researching these people in Victoria, > Somerset > > and the diaspora. > > > > > > TTFN > > > > Nigel Boundy > > Researching all things BICE, BOUNDY, COATE, > FLETCHER, > > McDONALD and RETALLACK EVERYWHERE > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > > > ==================================================== > > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Joy, There are also several FIDDIAN entries in the Vic PRO Unassisted Passenger index, some after 1893, but unfortunately there are no Christian names given. Good Luck! Beverley ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Quinn" <ramptons@iprimus.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:33 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > > >> One of my line has 'disappeared' from the UK after marrying in 1893. >> I couldn't find him on the USA immigration listings so now am wondering >> if he came to Australia. > > Hi Joy > There were 30 x FIDDIANs and 5 x PHIDDIANs in my 2003 phone CD, mostly in > VIC. So someone came here with those names ! > Bye > > MargM > Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > > >> >> Would some kind soul be able to look up a John Lucas FIDDIAN [usual >> spelling but have seen it with a PH] and wife - either Clara Charlotte or >> Julia. I am sorry this part is a bit vague but his name is correct. >> many thanks >> Joy >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > Hey have you updated your AntiVirus program lately ? ? > Is your AVG continuously activated while online ? ? > Does your AVG continue to check each and every email as it is down loaded > ? ? > Does your AV continue to check every Website you inter into ? ? > Better to be safe than sorry . . . let HouseCall check out your system > FREE ! > http://housecall.antivirus.com/. > other sites you might want to check out . . . > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Aid/AID-VirusProtect.htm > -this one mentioned in Missing Links Vol. 5 No. 44 > http://antivirus.cai.com/ > - this one was mentioned on the Listowner List > http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.cfm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Quinn" <ramptons@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > One of my line has 'disappeared' from the UK after > marrying in 1893. > I couldn't find him on the USA immigration listings so > now am wondering if he came to Australia. Hi Joy There were 30 x FIDDIANs and 5 x PHIDDIANs in my 2003 phone CD, mostly in VIC. So someone came here with those names ! Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > > Would some kind soul be able to look up a John Lucas > FIDDIAN [usual spelling but have seen it with a PH] and > wife - either Clara Charlotte or Julia. I am sorry this > part is a bit vague but his name is correct. > many thanks > Joy > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I want to say a very big 'thank you' to all the listers for the wonderful responses I got re my mysterious burial. I now know that Mary Burdett's parents are unknown and the only way to find them out is to get her death cert, but I am reluctant to do that just now...if I knew she was really related I would get it. Thanks must especially go to Carmel for the terminology for the different types of burials. I was about to email the Melb Cem to ask just that, but now I believe that as there is a high metal fence around the plot it must be a private grave... so Mary Burdett must have been related or at least known to the Jackson family somehow! Thanks also to Raymond for his offer to check the burial details of this family at the Cemetery. I have been astounded by the amount of responses and the various suggestions offered...this list is tops! Ever grateful, Robyn.

Thank you so much - that was quick. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > Joy > I've checked SA and Vic with no luck. Could be in other states however. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy Quinn" <ramptons@iprimus.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:33 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > > > > One of my line has 'disappeared' from the UK after marrying in 1893. > > I couldn't find him on the USA immigration listings so now am wondering if > > he came to Australia. > > > > Would some kind soul be able to look up a John Lucas FIDDIAN [usual > > spelling but have seen it with a PH] and wife - either Clara Charlotte or > > Julia. I am sorry this part is a bit vague but his name is correct. > > many thanks > > Joy > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > > ==================================================== > > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Joy I've checked SA and Vic with no luck. Could be in other states however. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Quinn" <ramptons@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] A LOOKUP PLEASE > One of my line has 'disappeared' from the UK after marrying in 1893. > I couldn't find him on the USA immigration listings so now am wondering if > he came to Australia. > > Would some kind soul be able to look up a John Lucas FIDDIAN [usual > spelling but have seen it with a PH] and wife - either Clara Charlotte or > Julia. I am sorry this part is a bit vague but his name is correct. > many thanks > Joy > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

One of my line has 'disappeared' from the UK after marrying in 1893. I couldn't find him on the USA immigration listings so now am wondering if he came to Australia. Would some kind soul be able to look up a John Lucas FIDDIAN [usual spelling but have seen it with a PH] and wife - either Clara Charlotte or Julia. I am sorry this part is a bit vague but his name is correct. many thanks Joy

Hello folks, I thought it time to once again draw researchers' attention to a terrific set of databases on the Royal Historical Society of Victoria website. http://www.historyvictoria.org.au/index.htm See the link to "Local History Online" Catalogues * RHSV Catalogue (HistoryVictoria Database) The manuscript, book, photograph, map, etc, collections are available through the online catalogue. Check your names, places and events. * Other RHSV databases The only one available at the moment is the index to the Victorian Historical Journal, 1911 - 2005 - 94 years of articles about Victorian history. * Victorian Local History Database This comprises a combined database of collections of societies affiliated with the RHSV - in its infancy, with only seven society collections represented, but worthwhile nevertheless and growing all the time. * Other online local history databases Links to local history collections of Victorian libraries, and also the 1891 Victorian Women's Suffrage Petition. Have a good holiday browse! Best wishes, Lenore Frost Essendon, Vic

Hi, With respect to you all. At this stage it's all a guessing game, why not wait till Monday when I can find out from the cemetery all the details on the burial. Yes true she could be from next door,but she could also be an in-law as well? Or just the little poor old lady the family knew and sooner than see her put into a paupers grave the family gave space from this person to rest in eternal piece! But it's just my 2c worth on the matter. Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial - collateral attack > If there is a metal fence then I would take it that it is a private burial > as the others state that there is no marker. This would indicate that she > was at least known by the family, unless as Beryl says it was a mistake > and she should be next door. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Thomas" <pmthomas@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:33 AM > Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial - collateral attack > > >> >> I've discovered that in genealogy, "never give up" is a good motto. >> >> Now that you've discovered that your Mary appears to have married (to >> whom, when, remaining a mystery), and to have died in 1896, and been >> buried with husband JACKSON, you might turn your attention to the >> remaining mysteries. >> >> If Mary's death certificate gives a residential address, then you might >> check directories for that name, and that address (there are three >> separate alpha, street, & trade lists). >> >> If Mr BURDETT survived to 1899, he may be on the Federation Referendum >> Roll. >> >> With a precise date of Mary's death, a tedious search of newspapers may >> reveal some extra clue. >> >> And the probate indices are worth a try. If Mary is listed, it will >> show her as "widow", or "married woman", which is a clue whether to look >> forward or backward for Mr BURDETT. >> >> >> Peter THOMAS >> Darwin, AUSTRALIA >> <pmthomas@bigpond.com> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: francesco acciarito [mailto:fracc@ozemail.com.au] >> Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 9:26 PM >> To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial >> >> >> Hi Carmel, thanks for your prompt lookup. That's her, and a real pity >> that her parents are unknown. >> There is no headstone, just a metal fence. >> Don't know where to go from here! >> >> cheers, Robyn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 20/01/2006, at 9:25 PM, Carmel M Reynen wrote: >> >>> Here is her death but no parents mentioned. there is an age though >>> that may help >>> Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 >>> >>> >>> Query >>> ----- >>> Surname : Burdett (39 matches) >>> Given Names : Mary (54116 matches) >>> >>> Total matching records: 2 >>> -------------------- >>> >>> Surname: BURDETT >>> Given Names: Mary >>> Event: D >>> Sex: >>> Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown >>> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN >>> Age: 66 >>> Age Code: >>> Birth Place: >>> Death Place: Fitz S >>> Year: 1896 >>> Reg. Number: 5895 >>> >>> there does not seem to be a marriage for Mary Jackson (Robinson) to a >> >>> Burdett >>> does not seem to be a headstone either >>> >>> Carmel >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "francesco acciarito" >>> <fracc@ozemail.com.au> >>> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:06 PM >>> Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial >>> >>> >>>> Hi listers, I'm hoping SKS can help me solve a mystery that I have >>>> decided to have another go at after a few year's break. >>>> >>>> My Benjamin Dean JACKSON, died 1.2.1873, is buried in Melb. Gen. Cem. >> >>>> with 3 of his children, but there is also a mystery woman named Mary >> >>>> BURDETT there too, buried on 8.6.1896. Now, Ben's wife was Mary >>>> ROBINSON (nee Reed) who outlived him, and it's so easy to just assume >> >>>> that Mary married again to a ? BURDETT. I don't have CD's, in fact my >> >>>> IMac won't take them, so I had to trawl through fiche the long way >>>> but still could not find a marriage for a Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT. >> >>>> I realize this could have happened interstate, but why would she then >> >>>> be buried in Vic (IF this was her?) >>>> I guess what I need is a kind person with CD's to look for the >>>> marriage of Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT, post 1873, plus the death of >> >>>> Mary BURDETT in 1896. Mary JACKSON'S parents were William JACKSON >>>> and Esther STONE, so if Mary BURDETT'S parents are the same then >>>> Bingo! >>>> >>>> Thanks, Robyn of Geelong. >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >>>> Searchable archives at >>>> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS- >>>> MELBOURNE-L >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in >> the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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If there is a metal fence then I would take it that it is a private burial as the others state that there is no marker. This would indicate that she was at least known by the family, unless as Beryl says it was a mistake and she should be next door. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Thomas" <pmthomas@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial - collateral attack > > I've discovered that in genealogy, "never give up" is a good motto. > > Now that you've discovered that your Mary appears to have married (to > whom, when, remaining a mystery), and to have died in 1896, and been > buried with husband JACKSON, you might turn your attention to the > remaining mysteries. > > If Mary's death certificate gives a residential address, then you might > check directories for that name, and that address (there are three > separate alpha, street, & trade lists). > > If Mr BURDETT survived to 1899, he may be on the Federation Referendum > Roll. > > With a precise date of Mary's death, a tedious search of newspapers may > reveal some extra clue. > > And the probate indices are worth a try. If Mary is listed, it will > show her as "widow", or "married woman", which is a clue whether to look > forward or backward for Mr BURDETT. > > > Peter THOMAS > Darwin, AUSTRALIA > <pmthomas@bigpond.com> > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: francesco acciarito [mailto:fracc@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 9:26 PM > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > > > Hi Carmel, thanks for your prompt lookup. That's her, and a real pity > that her parents are unknown. > There is no headstone, just a metal fence. > Don't know where to go from here! > > cheers, Robyn. > > > > > > > > > On 20/01/2006, at 9:25 PM, Carmel M Reynen wrote: > >> Here is her death but no parents mentioned. there is an age though >> that may help >> Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 >> >> >> Query >> ----- >> Surname : Burdett (39 matches) >> Given Names : Mary (54116 matches) >> >> Total matching records: 2 >> -------------------- >> >> Surname: BURDETT >> Given Names: Mary >> Event: D >> Sex: >> Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown >> Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN >> Age: 66 >> Age Code: >> Birth Place: >> Death Place: Fitz S >> Year: 1896 >> Reg. Number: 5895 >> >> there does not seem to be a marriage for Mary Jackson (Robinson) to a > >> Burdett >> does not seem to be a headstone either >> >> Carmel >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "francesco acciarito" >> <fracc@ozemail.com.au> >> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:06 PM >> Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial >> >> >>> Hi listers, I'm hoping SKS can help me solve a mystery that I have >>> decided to have another go at after a few year's break. >>> >>> My Benjamin Dean JACKSON, died 1.2.1873, is buried in Melb. Gen. Cem. > >>> with 3 of his children, but there is also a mystery woman named Mary > >>> BURDETT there too, buried on 8.6.1896. Now, Ben's wife was Mary >>> ROBINSON (nee Reed) who outlived him, and it's so easy to just assume > >>> that Mary married again to a ? BURDETT. I don't have CD's, in fact my > >>> IMac won't take them, so I had to trawl through fiche the long way >>> but still could not find a marriage for a Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT. > >>> I realize this could have happened interstate, but why would she then > >>> be buried in Vic (IF this was her?) >>> I guess what I need is a kind person with CD's to look for the >>> marriage of Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT, post 1873, plus the death of > >>> Mary BURDETT in 1896. Mary JACKSON'S parents were William JACKSON >>> and Esther STONE, so if Mary BURDETT'S parents are the same then >>> Bingo! >>> >>> Thanks, Robyn of Geelong. >>> >>> >>> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >>> Searchable archives at >>> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS- >>> MELBOURNE-L >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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For those who are interested in the types of burials I found this reference Terminology: i. Private- burial in a grave for which a right of burial (deed) has been issued for a fee. Re-opening, intermnet and digging fees are charged by the cemetery; ii. Public (common)- burial in unmarked ground [but defined on the gravesite map] at no charge. Interment and digging fees ared charged by the cemetery; iii. Pauper (destitute/government funerals/crown burial/free) - burial in unmarked ground [but defined on the gravesite map] for which the cemetery charges no fees for either the land or hte internment. A periodic contract is let by the government for the cost of the funeral. Article cat, Land and Environment Article Ref. 69 Carmel

Hello Robyn, This could be another avenue to consider. I have/had one of these mysterious in my family. After much research for possible re marriage, defacto, relative, family friend, and common grave, it turned out to be an undertakers mistake. The mysterious person should have been buried in the grave next door with their spouse. Beryl

Having lately been involved with the photographing and data basing of cemeteries I have found a couple of graves with some who seem totally unrelated (although I have not done a thorough search of these families) I wonder if they aren't even very good friends who are alone or even a cousin of some kind. the ones I am talking of are mentioned on the headstone so not paupers graves. Raymond I would like to know the difference between, private, public and paupers. My impression would be - private, large family plots, public in the general area and paupers would be unmarked in any way with a number of unrelated people. But then I have never really thought about that side before. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Dee" <littler01@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > Hi interesting I have a grave in Lilydale cemetery also a smith in > with my great GO. g. grand mother never ever found out who she is > Lilydale cem cant help either so that sounds very interesting to me > also thanks to every one who contributes to the board GREAT HELP always > appreciated Jessie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evelyn Harding" <emh_37@qld.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > > >> Robyn, if it was a public grave it is quite possible that the Mary buried >> there is no relation at all as it was common to use the same plot for >> other burials later. >> having said that I hope you find your Mary. >> regards >> Evelyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "francesco acciarito" <fracc@ozemail.com.au> >> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:06 PM >> Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial >> >> >>> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: >> 20/01/2006 >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hi interesting I have a grave in Lilydale cemetery also a smith in with my great GO. g. grand mother never ever found out who she is Lilydale cem cant help either so that sounds very interesting to me also thanks to every one who contributes to the board GREAT HELP always appreciated Jessie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Harding" <emh_37@qld.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > Robyn, if it was a public grave it is quite possible that the Mary buried > there is no relation at all as it was common to use the same plot for > other burials later. > having said that I hope you find your Mary. > regards > Evelyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "francesco acciarito" <fracc@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:06 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > > >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: 20/01/2006

Hi Evelyn, Robyn, I thought that was only applicable to what was known as a paupers grave. Looks like we should try and get the true meanings of :- Private Grave Public Grave Paupers Grave Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Harding" <emh_37@qld.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > Robyn, if it was a public grave it is quite possible that the Mary buried > there is no relation at all as it was common to use the same plot for > other burials later. > having said that I hope you find your Mary. > regards > Evelyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "francesco acciarito" <fracc@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:06 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > > >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

I've discovered that in genealogy, "never give up" is a good motto. Now that you've discovered that your Mary appears to have married (to whom, when, remaining a mystery), and to have died in 1896, and been buried with husband JACKSON, you might turn your attention to the remaining mysteries. If Mary's death certificate gives a residential address, then you might check directories for that name, and that address (there are three separate alpha, street, & trade lists). If Mr BURDETT survived to 1899, he may be on the Federation Referendum Roll. With a precise date of Mary's death, a tedious search of newspapers may reveal some extra clue. And the probate indices are worth a try. If Mary is listed, it will show her as "widow", or "married woman", which is a clue whether to look forward or backward for Mr BURDETT. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: francesco acciarito [mailto:fracc@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, 20 January 2006 9:26 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial Hi Carmel, thanks for your prompt lookup. That's her, and a real pity that her parents are unknown. There is no headstone, just a metal fence. Don't know where to go from here! cheers, Robyn. On 20/01/2006, at 9:25 PM, Carmel M Reynen wrote: > Here is her death but no parents mentioned. there is an age though > that may help > Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 > > > Query > ----- > Surname : Burdett (39 matches) > Given Names : Mary (54116 matches) > > Total matching records: 2 > -------------------- > > Surname: BURDETT > Given Names: Mary > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN > Age: 66 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Fitz S > Year: 1896 > Reg. Number: 5895 > > there does not seem to be a marriage for Mary Jackson (Robinson) to a > Burdett > does not seem to be a headstone either > > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- From: "francesco acciarito" > <fracc@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:06 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > > >> Hi listers, I'm hoping SKS can help me solve a mystery that I have >> decided to have another go at after a few year's break. >> >> My Benjamin Dean JACKSON, died 1.2.1873, is buried in Melb. Gen. Cem. >> with 3 of his children, but there is also a mystery woman named Mary >> BURDETT there too, buried on 8.6.1896. Now, Ben's wife was Mary >> ROBINSON (nee Reed) who outlived him, and it's so easy to just assume >> that Mary married again to a ? BURDETT. I don't have CD's, in fact my >> IMac won't take them, so I had to trawl through fiche the long way >> but still could not find a marriage for a Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT. >> I realize this could have happened interstate, but why would she then >> be buried in Vic (IF this was her?) >> I guess what I need is a kind person with CD's to look for the >> marriage of Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT, post 1873, plus the death of >> Mary BURDETT in 1896. Mary JACKSON'S parents were William JACKSON >> and Esther STONE, so if Mary BURDETT'S parents are the same then >> Bingo! >> >> Thanks, Robyn of Geelong. >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> Searchable archives at >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS- >> MELBOURNE-L >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Robyn, Have you tried looking for Mary's marriage under her other names ROBINSON and REED? She may have reverted back to using her maiden name after Ben died. Cheers, Marita Robyn of Geelong wrote: Hi listers, I'm hoping SKS can help me solve a mystery that I have decided to have another go at after a few year's break. My Benjamin Dean JACKSON, died 1.2.1873, is buried in Melb. Gen. Cem. with 3 of his children, but there is also a mystery woman named Mary BURDETT there too, buried on 8.6.1896. Now, Ben's wife was Mary ROBINSON (nee Reed) who outlived him, and it's so easy to just assume that Mary married again to a ? BURDETT. I don't have CD's, in fact my IMac won't take them, so I had to trawl through fiche the long way but still could not find a marriage for a Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT. I realize this could have happened interstate, but why would she then be buried in Vic (IF this was her?) I guess what I need is a kind person with CD's to look for the marriage of Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT, post 1873, plus the death of Mary BURDETT in 1896. Mary JACKSON'S parents were William JACKSON and Esther STONE, so if Mary BURDETT'S parents are the same then Bingo! Thanks, Robyn of Geelong. -----Original Message----- From: AUS-MELBOURNE-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:AUS-MELBOURNE-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2006 7:27 AM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-D@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MELBOURNE-D Digest V06 #17 AUS-MELBOURNE-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 17 Today's Topics: #1 re old newspapers ["Pam" <pam2001@hotkey.net.au>] #2 Re: [AUS-MELB] re old newspapers [Paul Kean <pauljkean@yahoo.com.au>] #3 Re: [AUS-MELB] re old newspapers ["Pam" <pam2001@hotkey.net.au>] #4 Re: [AUS-MELB] re old newspapers ["Jessie Dee" <littler01@optusnet.c] #5 Re: [AUS-MELB] re old newspapers ["Pam" <pam2001@hotkey.net.au>] #6 RE: [AUS-MELB] ROLL CALL ["b b" <tom_bet2000@hotmail.com>] #7 Re: [AUS-MELB] re old newspapers ["Pam" <pam2001@hotkey.net.au>] #8 A mysterious burial [francesco acciarito <fracc@ozemail] #9 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Colleen Wells" <colleenhasell@oze] #10 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpon] #11 Old newspapers ["Betty Cheeseman" <ech39497@bigpon] #12 Re: [AUS-MELB] Old newspapers ["Pam" <pam2001@hotkey.net.au>] #13 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Evelyn Harding" <emh_37@qld.chari] #14 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Raymond W. Henderson" <batie@ozem] #15 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Raymond W. Henderson" <batie@ozem] #16 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial ["Jessie Dee" <littler01@optusnet.c] #17 Re: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial [francesco acciarito <fracc@ozemail] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from AUS-MELBOURNE-D, send a message to AUS-MELBOURNE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the AUS-MELBOURNE-D list administrator, send mail to AUS-MELBOURNE-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________

As i told PAM there is a special folder ofice works have them pay dearly for them to preserve the paper Good luck jess ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Cheeseman" <ech39497@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:29 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Old newspapers > Pam, > if you keep your newspapers take care with storage.Mine were stored folded > in a drawer and are now turning into confetti. They were printed 1894/1904 > thogh so guess I can't complain > Betty > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: > 18/01/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 18/01/2006

The easiest way out of all this is would you leave this with me and I'll do some asking for you, but if you get a email from someone called Gina from Melbourne Cemeteri then she might be able to help you seeing it's so long ago Regards, Ray. Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Query ----- Surname : BURDETT (39 matches) Event : D (219331 matches) Total matching records: 10 -------------------- Surname: BURDETT Given Names: Mary Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Age: 66 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Fitz S Year: 1896 Reg. Number: 5895 So that is of no help Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : ROBINSON (3978 matches) Given Names : M* (323514 matches) Event : M (399995 matches) Total matching records: 127 -------------------- Surname: ROBINSON Given Names: Mary Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: JACKSON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Benjamin Dean Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1858 Reg Number: 1028 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ----- Original Message ----- From: "francesco acciarito" <fracc@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] A mysterious burial > Hi listers, I'm hoping SKS can help me solve a mystery that I have decided > to have another go at after a few year's break. > > My Benjamin Dean JACKSON, died 1.2.1873, is buried in Melb. Gen. Cem. with > 3 of his children, but there is also a mystery woman named Mary BURDETT > there too, buried on 8.6.1896. Now, Ben's wife was Mary ROBINSON (nee > Reed) who outlived him, and it's so easy to just assume that Mary married > again to a ? BURDETT. I don't have CD's, in fact my IMac won't take them, > so I had to trawl through fiche the long way but still could not find a > marriage for a Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT. I realize this could have > happened interstate, but why would she then be buried in Vic (IF this was > her?) > I guess what I need is a kind person with CD's to look for the marriage of > Mary JACKSON and a BURDETT, post 1873, plus the death of Mary BURDETT in > 1896. Mary JACKSON'S parents were William JACKSON and Esther STONE, so if > Mary BURDETT'S parents are the same then Bingo! > > Thanks, Robyn of Geelong. > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx