Hello Alison. P.A.F.S was a Lodge, ''Protestant Alliance Friendly Society" I think it also had some sort of rebate scheme re chemist bills for members. Go to Google and type: P.A.F.S + Lodge. Use ''Pages from Australia" Lots of hits there Cheers, Bob in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "alison" <rodneyalison@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:48 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Silver Tray Mystery > Dear List > I am writing to you hoping someone may be able to help me. I have in my possession a silver tray that was my grandmothers. The inscription on the tray reads : > P.A.F.S No 7 > Presented to Sister E Smith > From the Officers & Sisters > April 28 1915 > I have just discovered that my grandmother was married in the Flemington & Kensington Pres Church I believe this church burnt down in 1970's. > The tray may have been given as present as they were married two weeks later on the 15 May 1915 and after moved to NSW. > Would there have been some sort of organisation that was part of the church that she may have belonged to, or could there have some other organisation, there may be no link to the church at all, I really have no idea. > I hope you may be able to shed some light on this family mystery. > Kind Regards > Alison Brown > Gold Coast Qld > rodneyalison@optusnet.com.au > >

Kerry I am curious about how you know the exact date of death, what source are you using here? this may lead to helping to find where he may have died. I would guess he would be Peter Peterson/sen. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup please > Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the > Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 > Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the > time. Occupation: Mariner. > I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths > 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? > regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Michele From here in Sydney also, my research of our Melbourne family leads me to understand that "Gardiner" or "Gardiner's Creek" was an area surrounding the property settled by John Gardiner. As settlement grew, the council area became Malvern and is now part of the City of Stonnington. A very interesting source for Malvern history is the on-line copy of Cooper's "History of Malvern" written around 1935. Go to the city of Stonnington website and it's in their library section, or just "google" for Coopers History of Malvern. Diane Cole Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "lynsmum" <lynsmum@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: GARDINER, MELBOURNE > Hi all, > I put this into "Where is it" and up came Glen Iris. > > Is this the new name for it? > > Many thanks. > Michele in Sydney > > ______________________________

Thanks to all who answered my query. Michele in Sydney

Dear List I am writing to you hoping someone may be able to help me. I have in my possession a silver tray that was my grandmothers. The inscription on the tray reads : P.A.F.S No 7 Presented to Sister E Smith From the Officers & Sisters April 28 1915 I have just discovered that my grandmother was married in the Flemington & Kensington Pres Church I believe this church burnt down in 1970's. The tray may have been given as present as they were married two weeks later on the 15 May 1915 and after moved to NSW. Would there have been some sort of organisation that was part of the church that she may have belonged to, or could there have some other organisation, there may be no link to the church at all, I really have no idea. I hope you may be able to shed some light on this family mystery. Kind Regards Alison Brown Gold Coast Qld rodneyalison@optusnet.com.au

Tran Station and a Suburb I used to live their back in the 1970's had a shop in Bourke Road Gardiner. Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] GARDINER, MELBOURNE >I would consider Gardiner a district within, or on the edge of, the suburb > of Glen Iris. I think there is a train station called Gardiner. > > Dawn (Melbourne) > > -----Original Message----- > From: lynsmum [mailto:lynsmum@optushome.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 2:37 PM > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELB] GARDINER, MELBOURNE > > Hi all, > I put this into "Where is it" and up came Glen Iris. > > Is this the new name for it? > > Many thanks. > Michele in Sydney > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Would be best to find the surname he was buried under before searching cemeteries otherwise your searching for a needle in a hay stack with no name! Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup please > Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the > Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 > Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the > time. Occupation: Mariner. > I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths > 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? > regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Try this link http://www.necropolis.com.au/mainindex.htm Which links the three of the main cemeteries in the Melbourne area Cheers Carol -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Hall [mailto:kerhall@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 4:56 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup please Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the time. Occupation: Mariner. I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? regards Kerry ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I would consider Gardiner a district within, or on the edge of, the suburb of Glen Iris. I think there is a train station called Gardiner. Dawn (Melbourne) -----Original Message----- From: lynsmum [mailto:lynsmum@optushome.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 2:37 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] GARDINER, MELBOURNE Hi all, I put this into "Where is it" and up came Glen Iris. Is this the new name for it? Many thanks. Michele in Sydney ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

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Thanks Peter for those suggestions............i too have found lots on earlier children's institutions but this one was a bit more elusive Thanks I will go and check out these suggestions Cheers Carol -----Original Message----- From: Peter Thomas [mailto:pmthomas@bigpond.com] Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:59 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] RE: neglected childrens home The "home" might have been government-run, or private - perhaps a church or charity. If government, PROV ought to hold something. I have seen indices on microfyche of children taken into care. There were references in them to several homes for boys & girls. I can't recall if the index was preceded by an introduction or an overview. My grandmother was "in care" in the 1890s and I found her file - very informative - in PROV. Directories: any luck there ? Finally, and this is a bit lateral, but such a home probably had resident staff. They would have been on the electorall roll. You have a date and a location. Now all that remains is the tedious task of trawling the relevant electoral district, and you might get a few names, which might open up another line of inquiry. I say this because when I went through ER's for inner Melbourne in the early 20th Cent., I noticed that there was a Division devoted to the "Immigrant's Home", which had become a benevolent institution for frail of mind &/or body. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: carol pratt [mailto:carol.pratt@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 10:15 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: neglected childrens home Hi there list I was wondering if anyone knew anything of the neglected childrens home which was running at Royal Park in 1920 Any suggestions about where to look would be gratefully received Cheers Carol ______________________________ ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Thanks Sue....all I could find on a Google was one reference to an enquiry into a previous matron and that was on the pro site....but thanks anyway I will pass this on to my relative who is doing the research Cheers Carol -----Original Message----- From: Sue Lowe [mailto:soux@bigpond.com] Sent: Wednesday, 15 March 2006 4:17 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] Neglected childrens home Hi Carol, I had a relative there in 1911 - a few years back I applied for records from here through the Department of Family & Community Services. I dont know their address or details now but I think you'll find them if you do a 'Google'. You'll have to fill out various forms & maybe also have the signature of a close family member to obtain copies due to the FOI act. Sue Melbourne ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== Hey have you updated your AntiVirus program lately ? ? Is your AVG continuously activated while online ? ? Does your AVG continue to check each and every email as it is down loaded ? ? Does your AV continue to check every Website you inter into ? ? Better to be safe than sorry . . . let HouseCall check out your system FREE ! http://housecall.antivirus.com/. other sites you might want to check out . . . http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Aid/AID-VirusProtect.ht m -this one mentioned in Missing Links Vol. 5 No. 44 http://antivirus.cai.com/ - this one was mentioned on the Listowner List http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.cfm ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hi Carol, I had a relative there in 1911 - a few years back I applied for records from here through the Department of Family & Community Services. I dont know their address or details now but I think you'll find them if you do a 'Google'. You'll have to fill out various forms & maybe also have the signature of a close family member to obtain copies due to the FOI act. Sue Melbourne

Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the time. Occupation: Mariner. I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? regards Kerry

Hi all, I put this into "Where is it" and up came Glen Iris. Is this the new name for it? Many thanks. Michele in Sydney

The "home" might have been government-run, or private - perhaps a church or charity. If government, PROV ought to hold something. I have seen indices on microfyche of children taken into care. There were references in them to several homes for boys & girls. I can't recall if the index was preceded by an introduction or an overview. My grandmother was "in care" in the 1890s and I found her file - very informative - in PROV. Directories: any luck there ? Finally, and this is a bit lateral, but such a home probably had resident staff. They would have been on the electorall roll. You have a date and a location. Now all that remains is the tedious task of trawling the relevant electoral district, and you might get a few names, which might open up another line of inquiry. I say this because when I went through ER's for inner Melbourne in the early 20th Cent., I noticed that there was a Division devoted to the "Immigrant's Home", which had become a benevolent institution for frail of mind &/or body. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: carol pratt [mailto:carol.pratt@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 10:15 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: neglected childrens home Hi there list I was wondering if anyone knew anything of the neglected childrens home which was running at Royal Park in 1920 Any suggestions about where to look would be gratefully received Cheers Carol ______________________________

I believe they may ... in the past .. on this mailing list I read somewhere that someone was seeeking an obituary and they were assisted by the State Library. Maria On 3/15/06, MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria Celano" <maria.celano@gmail.com> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:43 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Melb Herald Sun look up ?? > > > > Try State Library of Victoria : they have a web site > > Hi Maria > > I know they do , BUT do they do death notice look ups ? > > Am pretty sure the NSW SL dont > > Bye > > > > MargM > Member of > CC FHS > Gosford > NSW > > > > > > > On 3/14/06, MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Could SKS do a look up for me in the Melbourne Herald > >> Sun > >> newspaper for the death notice of > >> > >> > >> Telford Robert JONES d 14 Jul 1995 , buried at Rye > >> Cemetery. As far as I know that date is date of death > >> so > >> should be in the paper 15th - 17th Jul 1995 > >> > >> Many thanks > >> > >> Happy to reciprocate with a look up in NSW records > >> > >> > >> Bye > >> > >> > >> MargM > >> Member of > >> CC FHS > >> Gosford > >> NSW > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > >> ==================================================== > >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > >> records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. > >> Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > > ==================================================== > > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > > Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > If you wish to make personal contact with List Admin Ray at > batie@ozemail.com.au > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Celano" <maria.celano@gmail.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Melb Herald Sun look up ?? > Try State Library of Victoria : they have a web site Hi Maria I know they do , BUT do they do death notice look ups ? Am pretty sure the NSW SL dont Bye MargM Member of CC FHS Gosford NSW > > > On 3/14/06, MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> Could SKS do a look up for me in the Melbourne Herald >> Sun >> newspaper for the death notice of >> >> >> Telford Robert JONES d 14 Jul 1995 , buried at Rye >> Cemetery. As far as I know that date is date of death >> so >> should be in the paper 15th - 17th Jul 1995 >> >> Many thanks >> >> Happy to reciprocate with a look up in NSW records >> >> >> Bye >> >> >> MargM >> Member of >> CC FHS >> Gosford >> NSW >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million >> records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. >> Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Try State Library of Victoria : they have a web site cheers Maria On 3/14/06, MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Could SKS do a look up for me in the Melbourne Herald Sun > newspaper for the death notice of > > > Telford Robert JONES d 14 Jul 1995 , buried at Rye > Cemetery. As far as I know that date is date of death so > should be in the paper 15th - 17th Jul 1995 > > Many thanks > > Happy to reciprocate with a look up in NSW records > > > Bye > > > MargM > Member of > CC FHS > Gosford > NSW > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Could SKS do a look up for me in the Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper for the death notice of Telford Robert JONES d 14 Jul 1995 , buried at Rye Cemetery. As far as I know that date is date of death so should be in the paper 15th - 17th Jul 1995 Many thanks Happy to reciprocate with a look up in NSW records Bye MargM Member of CC FHS Gosford NSW