One thing you need to keep in mind is that any certificate numbers from B.D & M are covered by copyright, so be careful if you are thinking of doing this more so if you are going to be selling the book but if it's only for family use it may not be as bigger issue, to cover your self would be if you scanned the whole certificate and used it within the book but if you are only going to quote number you got from Diggers BD & M remember they are covered by copyright laws. Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] HELP WITH PRIVACY ISSUES PLEASE > Hello everyone, > > I wonder if I could ask a question, particularly of the experts on this > list, regarding publishing personal details. > > I am on the verge of publishing my family history and over the years (as > have all of us) collected the birth, marriage, death, Will, education, > employment, divorce and adoption information, not to mention one or two > "secrets", of all my relatives. I am aware of the "etiquette" of not > publishing the personal information about living people, even if they have > given me their permission to do so. However, what I want to ask is this: > > Is it against the law to publish this information and, if so, what if I > have permission to publish by virtue of the fact I have been told the > information? > Do I have to get permission from every individual, or would a parent's > permission be acceptable for their children? > If I can't publish personal information, can I then publish photos of > these living people? > > I will be printing about a dozen copies only, half of which will go to the > U.K. and the other half to various States in Australia. > > I have seen some websites that just give the word "Living" when referring > to a family member but my personal opinion is that it is hardly worthwhile > including them if you can't at least give their first name, or sex. In > fact, what I had thought of doing to overcome the privacy thing, was just > to include first name and the year of an event that related to them, but > have decided just to put their first name only. Before doing so, however, > I thought I should check to see if someone has a definitive answer. > > Seems to me that after seven years of collecting, it's a real anti-climax > if I can't include the names of the hundreds of family members living. > What sort of boring family history is it that the first half is fully > detailed and interesting, and the second half just repeats the word > "Living"! > > All thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. > > Jan. > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Hello everyone, I wonder if I could ask a question, particularly of the experts on this list, regarding publishing personal details. I am on the verge of publishing my family history and over the years (as have all of us) collected the birth, marriage, death, Will, education, employment, divorce and adoption information, not to mention one or two "secrets", of all my relatives. I am aware of the "etiquette" of not publishing the personal information about living people, even if they have given me their permission to do so. However, what I want to ask is this: Is it against the law to publish this information and, if so, what if I have permission to publish by virtue of the fact I have been told the information? Do I have to get permission from every individual, or would a parent's permission be acceptable for their children? If I can't publish personal information, can I then publish photos of these living people? I will be printing about a dozen copies only, half of which will go to the U.K. and the other half to various States in Australia. I have seen some websites that just give the word "Living" when referring to a family member but my personal opinion is that it is hardly worthwhile including them if you can't at least give their first name, or sex. In fact, what I had thought of doing to overcome the privacy thing, was just to include first name and the year of an event that related to them, but have decided just to put their first name only. Before doing so, however, I thought I should check to see if someone has a definitive answer. Seems to me that after seven years of collecting, it's a real anti-climax if I can't include the names of the hundreds of family members living. What sort of boring family history is it that the first half is fully detailed and interesting, and the second half just repeats the word "Living"! All thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. Jan.

Hi Lyn, Thank you so very much! Where did you find this info? and I do not know if his wife was nor if they had children if you have access to records that state he did have children and whom his wife was tat wold be great regards Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Baker" <lyn.baker@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup Please Thank You to all > Av Marie Lidberg - fredag den 06 jan 2006 kl. 12.21: [Ändra] > > Försöker spåra en släkting, Pehr Victor Peterson, som enligt en notering i > Madesjö församlingsböcker dog 17 mars 1921 i Melbourne. Han var född 8 > juni 1866 i Örsjö (Madesjö församling, Småland)och var sjöman. Vet enligt > en anteckning att det fanns en änka bosatt på 121 Duuks, Albert Park. Kan > någon hjälpa mig vore jag tacksam. MVH Marie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:15 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup Please Thank You to all > > >>A big thanks to Carol, for the links, >> >> Carmel, the information was given to the lady from a Swedish Church. >> Pehr's home parish and mother received an official note from the Swedish >> Consul in Melbourne that the former mariner, Pehr Victor PETERSON had >> died on that date and on this his address 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, >> Melbourne. I have also received a bit more info that he may be under Per >> Viktor PETERSSON however being in Australia I would imagine his name was >> altered to something else. >> >> His mother's name was Emma Matilda Israelsson and Father: Peter >> Gustavsson. >> >> Thanks also to Travis, for looking at Brighton Cemetery, >> >> Chris for looking at Melbourne General and St Kilda, >> >> Maria for her lookup at Fawkner Cemetery and Lyn. >> >> He would have been 54 years old when he died. >> >> Kind regards >> Kerry >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> Searchable archives at >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Could someone do a look up for me please?. I am hopping someone could find the birth date, of Jas SYNON. he died 1938 Reservoir. Married 1896, Maragret Jane BLOXHAM. Margaret was born 1865, Heidleberg. Died 1958, Preston. Thank you for any help. Happiness Peggy & Max Henson Swan Hill Australia researching ABBOTT,BELL,BIDDISCOMBE,BLOXHAM,FELLOWS,FLIXON,GIDDENS,MOORE,PHIPPS,ROWLSTONE.

Hello. I wonder if anyone has information on Sidney Valentine Sewell, later Sir Sidney? Hid line was from Cumberland in UK. He married Alice Maud CUNNING in Victoria, Australia on 18.3.1908. I would like to hear from you, to swap information. Cheers, Bob in Melbourne

Percy married Christina CUNNING in Victoria in 1903 and I wonder if anyone else is researching this line? Cheers, Bob

was he married to Ellen Amanda Augustdotter? Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup Please Thank You to all >A big thanks to Carol, for the links, > > Carmel, the information was given to the lady from a Swedish Church. > Pehr's home parish and mother received an official note from the Swedish > Consul in Melbourne that the former mariner, Pehr Victor PETERSON had died > on that date and on this his address 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, > Melbourne. I have also received a bit more info that he may be under Per > Viktor PETERSSON however being in Australia I would imagine his name was > altered to something else. > > His mother's name was Emma Matilda Israelsson and Father: Peter > Gustavsson. > > Thanks also to Travis, for looking at Brighton Cemetery, > > Chris for looking at Melbourne General and St Kilda, > > Maria for her lookup at Fawkner Cemetery and Lyn. > > He would have been 54 years old when he died. > > Kind regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:53:42 +1100, Perplexed wrote: >I had some earlyish settlers in Gardiners Creek. They build their house on >the Cnr of Wattle Tree and Glenferrie Sts which I understand is in Malvern >now. > >Can anybody tell me what's there now??? > >Anne If you mean corner of Glenferrie and Wattletree Roads, then there is a bank on one corner and the other 3 corners are shops. Tom

Av Marie Lidberg - fredag den 06 jan 2006 kl. 12.21: [Ändra] Försöker spåra en släkting, Pehr Victor Peterson, som enligt en notering i Madesjö församlingsböcker dog 17 mars 1921 i Melbourne. Han var född 8 juni 1866 i Örsjö (Madesjö församling, Småland)och var sjöman. Vet enligt en anteckning att det fanns en änka bosatt på 121 Duuks, Albert Park. Kan någon hjälpa mig vore jag tacksam. MVH Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup Please Thank You to all >A big thanks to Carol, for the links, > > Carmel, the information was given to the lady from a Swedish Church. > Pehr's home parish and mother received an official note from the Swedish > Consul in Melbourne that the former mariner, Pehr Victor PETERSON had died > on that date and on this his address 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, > Melbourne. I have also received a bit more info that he may be under Per > Viktor PETERSSON however being in Australia I would imagine his name was > altered to something else. > > His mother's name was Emma Matilda Israelsson and Father: Peter > Gustavsson. > > Thanks also to Travis, for looking at Brighton Cemetery, > > Chris for looking at Melbourne General and St Kilda, > > Maria for her lookup at Fawkner Cemetery and Lyn. > > He would have been 54 years old when he died. > > Kind regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I had some earlyish settlers in Gardiners Creek. They build their house on the Cnr of Wattle Tree and Glenferrie Sts which I understand is in Malvern now. Can anybody tell me what's there now??? Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Cole" <dicole@tech2u.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Re: GARDINER, MELBOURNE > Hi Michele > >>From here in Sydney also, my research of our Melbourne family leads me to > understand that "Gardiner" or "Gardiner's Creek" was an area surrounding > the property settled by John Gardiner. As settlement grew, the council > area became Malvern and is now part of the City of Stonnington. > > A very interesting source for Malvern history is the on-line copy of > Cooper's "History of Malvern" written around 1935. Go to the city of > Stonnington website and it's in their library section, or just "google" > for Coopers History of Malvern. > > Diane Cole > Sydney > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lynsmum" <lynsmum@optushome.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:36 PM > Subject: GARDINER, MELBOURNE > > >> Hi all, >> I put this into "Where is it" and up came Glen Iris. >> >> Is this the new name for it? >> >> Many thanks. >> Michele in Sydney >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

A big thanks to Carol, for the links, Carmel, the information was given to the lady from a Swedish Church. Pehr's home parish and mother received an official note from the Swedish Consul in Melbourne that the former mariner, Pehr Victor PETERSON had died on that date and on this his address 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne. I have also received a bit more info that he may be under Per Viktor PETERSSON however being in Australia I would imagine his name was altered to something else. His mother's name was Emma Matilda Israelsson and Father: Peter Gustavsson. Thanks also to Travis, for looking at Brighton Cemetery, Chris for looking at Melbourne General and St Kilda, Maria for her lookup at Fawkner Cemetery and Lyn. He would have been 54 years old when he died. Kind regards Kerry

What was his age, parents? Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hall" <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery Lookup please > Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the > Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 > Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the > time. Occupation: Mariner. > I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths > 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? > regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Thankyou everyone for solving my silver tray mystery. I had no idea that my grandma belonged to something like that, she mustn't have kept up the membership after she moved to NSW, but then she did have 7 children in quick succession and would have had her hands full. Regards Alison

Hello Kerry I have checked the Fawkner Cemetery online .. NO LUCK you should also check for the his first name spelt Pierre also Peter I have come across different spellings and you may find him listed under these christian names.. - don't rule out any possibilities that name may be spelt different I will check my other resources at home and get back to you cheers from Maria Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 16 march 2006 On 3/15/06, Kerry Hall <kerhall@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the > Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 Mar/May > 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the time. > Occupation: Mariner. > I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths > 1921-1985 so he may have used another name? > regards > Kerry > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Pehr is not buried at either Melbourne General Cemetery or St Kilda under the name of Peterson/Petersen Cheers -- ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.`Chris Bryce Qld Australia > Would someone on the list have access to cemetery records for the > Melbourne area? I am looking for a Pehr Victor PETERSON who died 17 > Mar/May 1921 was living at 121 Dank Street, Albert Park, Melbourne at the > time. Occupation: Mariner. > I have been unable to locate a death reg for him in the Vic Deaths > 1921-1985 so he may have used another name?

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:39:19 +1100 (AEDT), Tom Perrett wrote: >P.A.F.S. = Protestant and Alliance Friendly Society. Ooops, didn't mean to put "and" there, should be just Protestant Alliance Friendly Society. Tom Cheers, Tom <tomp@st.net.au> Tom Perrett Proud to be member of Melbourne DPS, first port of call re Victorian research - http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:37:10 +1100, Lenore Frost wrote: >Some of these societies still exist, but I don't know about >that one - it might possibly have been taken over in comparatively recent >times (like forty years ago) by another organisation, PAFS in Victoria merged with the Over50s Friendly Society. Tom

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:48:54 +1000, alison wrote: >Dear List >I am writing to you hoping someone may be able to help me. I have in my possession a silver tray that was my grandmothers. The inscription on the tray reads : > P.A.F.S No 7 > Presented to Sister E Smith > From the Officers & Sisters > April 28 1915 >I have just discovered that my grandmother was married in the Flemington & Kensington Pres Church I believe this church burnt down in 1970's. >The tray may have been given as present as they were married two weeks later on the 15 May 1915 and after moved to NSW. >Would there have been some sort of organisation that was part of the church that she may have belonged to, or could there have some other organisation, there may be no link to the church at all, I really have no idea. >I hope you may be able to shed some light on this family mystery. P.A.F.S. = Protestant and Alliance Friendly Society. They were a friendly society and also had lodges where they had monthly meetings, they had ranks and regalia - thinks of the Masonic order as an example of ranks and regalia, the main different is that it was open to both sexes, hence the reference to Sister, and indeed a Sister could be the head of the local lodge. I know a bit about it as many years ago in Victoria it was provided a private health insurance system too and as it was the best deal I ever saw, I joined the scheme, this ipso facto also made you a member of the other side so I used to get the monthly newsletter about the doings of the various lodges too At one time Friendly Societies were a big deal here in Australia, and for interest it think PAFS in NSW may still be operatiional Tom

I have sent a reply directly to the person who asked the question, but I thought the list might like to know as well. Try the Victorian Department of Human Services at 50 Lonsdale Street, Melbourne, 3000. Phone: 1300 650 172. They have responsibility for child care and I believe you may be able to access files held by them. There may be a fee involved. One relative obtained a mine of information on her husband's mother and grandmother, both on file with the department. I believe from a conversation recently with someone that Victoria had/has child welfare laws since 1868, so I am only suggesting they may be of assistance. Linda

>Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:48:54 +1000 >From: "alison" <rodneyalison@optusnet.com.au> >Subject: Silver Tray Mystery >Dear List >I am writing to you hoping someone may be able to help me. I have in my >possession a silver tray >that was my grandmothers. The inscription on the >tray reads : > P.A.F.S No 7 > Presented to Sister E Smith > From the Officers & Sisters > April 28 1915 >I have just discovered that my grandmother was married in the Flemington & >Kensington Pres >Church I believe this church burnt down in 1970's. >The tray may have been given as present as they were married two weeks >later on the 15 May >1915 and after moved to NSW. >Would there have been some sort of organisation that was part of the church >that she may have >belonged to, or could there have some other >organisation, there may be no link to the church at >all, I really have no >idea. >Alison Brown >Gold Coast Qld >rodneyalison@optusnet.com.au Hi Alison, PAFS was a Friendly Society. I'm not precisely sure of the exact name, but it may have been Protestant Alliance Friendly Society. I don't know its precise structure, but there was probably a local branch in Kensington, I would think. Some of these societies still exist, but I don't know about that one - it might possibly have been taken over in comparatively recent times (like forty years ago) by another organisation, such as IOOF or IOR or AOF - do these mean anything? :-) Independent Order of Oddfellows, Independent Order of Rechabites and Ancient Order of Foresters, and others of course. They all had the same aim of providing sickness and unemployment benefits for members, but they also had a pretty active social side to the organisation. I would think there would have been a local Kensington Branch of PAFS. http://www.australianunity.com.au/au/info/companyhistory.asp This will give you a bit of an idea of what they were all about. Best wishes, Lenore Frost Essendon, Vic