HI all that have responded to this post. I agree with Margaret & Gaylene that "we with the resources" can assist people at our leisure. It's the enjoyment, fun & excitment we get helping others to find what we all require - those missing pieces of our jigsaws. WE do also make friends this way. Just yesterday, I spent approx half an hour doing a look up for someone on this list & was ready to send all the details to the person and found that they had cross posted on another list and the same reply I had ready to go had already been answered. Should I have been angry and addressed that person "off list" to say you have wasted my time - NO, I was happy the person was given the correct details - it is the pleasure you get in helping other people. As for the rostered days to do look ups, just wouldn't work for me - I have 5 children that all want to use one of the two computers we have hooked up to internet, and of course always the same time I do, also I work full time, if I had to work to a roster - nothing would ever get done - I am lucky to make it to work on time. I also would like MY time to keep searching for my own pieces of the worlds bigest jigsaw that has no sides. I am now getting off my soap box - sorry Ray Darlene >From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> >Reply-To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] REGARDING LOOKUPS - >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:20:49 +1000 > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> >To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:33 PM >Subject: [AUS-MELB] REGARDING LOOKUPS - STUART/KIRKPATRICK > > >>Hello everyone, >> >>Firstly, let me thank very much the three members of this list who have >>been very generous in looking up the details for me of the >>STUART/KIRKPATRICK request I made. >> >>Secondly, what struck me immediately was that these three people had done >>exactly the same job, when the efforts and generosity of one person would >>have been sufficient. > >Hi Jan > >>So. I have a suggestion that perhaps Ray (List Admin.) may wish to >>comment on, as perhaps he would need to oversee/organise this. >> >>What if all of you with BDM cd's (or any other resource) work out a day of >>the week that each of you would be prepared to do a lookup for the rest of >>us, and any request that comes in on that particular day, then that person >>does the lookup. The results of the lookup still to be sent to the list, >>but I just think it would be a much fairer system to share the load, than >>to have several people spending their own time to find out the same >>information as each other. >>What do you think? > >It wouldnt work ................... I do alot of look ups as I enjoy a >challange but not with this list so much as dont live in VIC . > >I do these when I have time to spare or if what ever looks to be in real >mind bender. > >Have got 4 ' on the boil' at the moment. Well 3 as got a Eureka on one >tonight when I located a cousin for this over seas gene...... Its a lot of >fun but couldnt cope with it being regulated to once a week . > >bye > MargM > Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > Need Help ? >Try: www.raogk.org/listing.htm > > > >==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >==================================================== >Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au

You also need to consider the old Northcote Cemetery and also Coburg, or also don't forget Kew? Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Celano" <maria.celano@gmail.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > Marina > did you get this information from Digger : Pioneer Index Victoria > 1836-1888? > > Do not rule out the St Kilda Cemetery? > you'll have to check the web sites .. there is several sites available. > I did some volunteer work for a family that lived and died in Collingwood > during this period of time.. all were located at this above cemetery.. > worth > a try. > I am also look for you .. if I find it I'll send it to you.. > a > web site of genealogy volunteers in Victoria that may have these records > on > cd.... if I locate the source I'll email you back ASAP. > > sincerely > Maria > Melbourne, Victoria, Australia > > > On 3/29/06, Marina & Bruce Borland <matilda@snap.net.nz> wrote: >> >> Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if >> possible. Religion C. of E. >> >> STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born >> aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, >> >> EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, >> Melbourne. >> >> ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, >> Collingwood. >> >> WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father >> of >> the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. >> >> SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born >> Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, >> 1866 - would love a record if possible. >> >> Doubt if there will be any headstones. >> >> Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and >> transferred. >> >> Any help with this much appreciated. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marina >> Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hello everyone, Firstly, let me thank very much the three members of this list who have been very generous in looking up the details for me of the STUART/KIRKPATRICK request I made. Secondly, what struck me immediately was that these three people had done exactly the same job, when the efforts and generosity of one person would have been sufficient. So. I have a suggestion that perhaps Ray (List Admin.) may wish to comment on, as perhaps he would need to oversee/organise this. What if all of you with BDM cd's (or any other resource) work out a day of the week that each of you would be prepared to do a lookup for the rest of us, and any request that comes in on that particular day, then that person does the lookup. The results of the lookup still to be sent to the list, but I just think it would be a much fairer system to share the load, than to have several people spending their own time to find out the same information as each other. Hope I've made sense! What do you think? Jan.

Marina did you get this information from Digger : Pioneer Index Victoria 1836-1888? Do not rule out the St Kilda Cemetery? you'll have to check the web sites .. there is several sites available. I did some volunteer work for a family that lived and died in Collingwood during this period of time.. all were located at this above cemetery.. worth a try. I am also look for you .. if I find it I'll send it to you.. a web site of genealogy volunteers in Victoria that may have these records on cd.... if I locate the source I'll email you back ASAP. sincerely Maria Melbourne, Victoria, Australia On 3/29/06, Marina & Bruce Borland <matilda@snap.net.nz> wrote: > > Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if > possible. Religion C. of E. > > STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born > aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, > > EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, > Melbourne. > > ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, > Collingwood. > > WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father of > the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. > > SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born > Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, > 1866 - would love a record if possible. > > Doubt if there will be any headstones. > > Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and > transferred. > > Any help with this much appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Marina > Christchurch > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Marina............i noticed your WORSLEY family and wondered if they may be connected to mine somehow....my Mum's maiden name was WORSLEY and they lived in Dandenong (I still live close by)........i don't recognise the names of your family but thought it was worth asking. About your family....would William Worsley have been buried at Dandenong cemetery? Cheers Carol Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: Marina & Bruce Borland [mailto:matilda@snap.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:55 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if possible. Religion C. of E. STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, Melbourne. ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, Collingwood. WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father of the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, 1866 - would love a record if possible. Doubt if there will be any headstones. Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and transferred. Any help with this much appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Marina Christchurch New Zealand ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Thanks Jenny. Much obliged. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > Hi Marina, > > Just in case you didn't have the direct email of Melbourne General. They > are very helpful and you usually get a reply within two days. > > mgc@necropolis.com.au > > best wishes, > > Jenny Coates > > Melbourne's Unemployed in the 1890s > http://home.primusonline.com.au/jennyc/Melbourne/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marina & Bruce Borland <matilda@snap.net.nz> > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:56:58 +1200 > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - > WORSLEY. > > > Hello Carmel, > > Thank you for your email. Nice to hear from you. > > Thanks for the website, which looks rather familiar, so guess have had a > look at it. > > Yes, very aware about on-line records, and transcriptions from headstones > only. > > Because what I require is relatively early know that problems could occur. > Have to write to Melbourne General so will ask of course, and just maybe > something will arise. > > Obtaining death cert's may be the only solution in some of these > instances, but I wonder about the data cited for early cert's, as > sometines they can be disappointing. > > Regards, > > Marina > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" > <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - > WORSLEY. > >> Marina >> A lot of online cemetery records are of the headstones, unmarked graves > >> usually need to be looked up by the cemetery trust unless they have put > >> the records online themselves. ( I stand to be corrected here??) >> the only other way to find where they are buried is on the death > >> certificates. I know these can be expensive but will give you definite > >> cemetery where they are buried. >> The other site you could check is www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ > >> this will take you to all cemeteries in Australia, but do remember many > >> only have pics or information from the headstones, I estimate about 1/3 >> of > all burials, but there is usually a contact for information on other >> > burials. Also some cemeteries have lost records, either through fire or >> > such, so still may not be able to help. >> Carmel >> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" >> <matilda@snap.net.nz> >> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:54 PM >> Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - >> WORSLEY. >> >> >>> Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if >>> >> possible. Religion C. of E. >>> >>> STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born >>> >> aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, >>> >>> EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, >> >>> Melbourne. >>> >>> ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St >>> Marks, >> Collingwood. >>> >>> WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father >>> >> of the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. >>> >>> SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born >> >>> Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, >>> >> 1866 - would love a record if possible. >>> >>> Doubt if there will be any headstones. >>> >>> Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and >> >>> transferred. >>> >>> Any help with this much appreciated. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Marina >>> Christchurch >>> New Zealand >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >>> ==================================================== >>> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. 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Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : STUART (517 matches) Given Names : A* (302116 matches) Event : M (399995 matches) Total matching records: 23 -------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Alfred James Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: LE BOUEF Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jessie Age: Sex: M Birth Place: MELBOURNE Death Place: Year: 1885 Reg Number: 5871 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: James Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: MILLIST Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Minnie Margaret Age: Sex: M Birth Place: VICT Death Place: Year: 1888 Reg Number: 4329 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: --------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Henry Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: CARRON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Ann Age: Sex: M Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1888 Reg Number: 8537 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: George Walter Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: CRELLIN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret Age: Sex: M Birth Place: VICT Death Place: Year: 1888 Reg Number: 5500 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leanne McCann" <leannemccann@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] STUART - KIRKPATRICK > Jan > Hope the info below helps > Leanne > > > > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > > Query > ----- > Surname : ST* (31921 matches) > Event : M (399995 matches) > Spouse Surname/Fathe : KIR* (793 matches) > Total matching records: 9 > -------------------- > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: William > Event: M > Spouse Surname/Father: KIRKPATRICK > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary > Age: > Sex: M > Birth Place: > Death Place: > Year: 1855 > Reg Number: 2058 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > > > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > > Query > ----- > Surname : ST* (31921 matches) > Event : B (926847 matches) > Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : KIR* (1555 matches) > Total matching records: 32 > -------------------- > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: Alfred James > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: MELB > Death Place: > Year: 1860 > Reg Number: 774 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: James > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: DAND > Death Place: > Year: 1862 > Reg Number: 16249 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: Edwin Frederick > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICH > Death Place: > Year: 1864 > Reg Number: 11088 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: Henry Mathew > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICH > Death Place: > Year: 1865 > Reg Number: 24341 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: George > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICHMOND > Death Place: > Year: 1867 > Reg Number: 24118 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: Matthew Robert > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICHMOND > Death Place: > Year: 1869 > Reg Number: 18128 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: Charles Henry > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICH > Death Place: > Year: 1871 > Reg Number: 25723 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Surname: STUART > Given Names: John Kirk > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: RICHMOND > Death Place: > Year: 1874 > Reg Number: 4784 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:14 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] STUART - KIRKPATRICK > > >> Hi all, >> >> Would one of you very kind souls on the list please look up for me please >> any birth, death or marriage entry for the following: >> >> William STUART married Mary KIRKPATRICK - when? >> >> I only know of one child, James STUART, born 1861 - where? >> >> Were there any other children born to the couple? >> >> Many thanks in advance. >> >> Jan. >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> ==================================================== >> Searchable archives at >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L >> >> ============================== >> New! 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-------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: William Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: KIRKPATRICK Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 2058 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Alfred James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 774 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: DAND Death Place: Year: 1862 Reg Number: 16249 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Edwin Frederick Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 11088 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Henry Mathew Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 24341 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surname: STUART Given Names: George Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 24118 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Matthew Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 18128 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Charles Henry Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1871 Reg Number: 25723 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: John Kirk Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1874 Reg Number: 4784 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] STUART - KIRKPATRICK > Hi all, > > Would one of you very kind souls on the list please look up for me please > any birth, death or marriage entry for the following: > > William STUART married Mary KIRKPATRICK - when? > > I only know of one child, James STUART, born 1861 - where? > > Were there any other children born to the couple? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Jan. > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > ==================================================== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Jan Hope the info below helps Leanne Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : ST* (31921 matches) Event : M (399995 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : KIR* (793 matches) Total matching records: 9 -------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: William Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: KIRKPATRICK Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 2058 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : ST* (31921 matches) Event : B (926847 matches) Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : KIR* (1555 matches) Total matching records: 32 -------------------- Surname: STUART Given Names: Alfred James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 774 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: DAND Death Place: Year: 1862 Reg Number: 16249 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: Edwin Frederick Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 11088 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: Henry Mathew Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 24341 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: George Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 24118 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: Matthew Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 18128 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: Charles Henry Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1871 Reg Number: 25723 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: STUART Given Names: John Kirk Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary KIRKPATRICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1874 Reg Number: 4784 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] STUART - KIRKPATRICK > Hi all, > > Would one of you very kind souls on the list please look up for me please > any birth, death or marriage entry for the following: > > William STUART married Mary KIRKPATRICK - when? > > I only know of one child, James STUART, born 1861 - where? > > Were there any other children born to the couple? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Jan. > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > ==================================================== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hi all, Would one of you very kind souls on the list please look up for me please any birth, death or marriage entry for the following: William STUART married Mary KIRKPATRICK - when? I only know of one child, James STUART, born 1861 - where? Were there any other children born to the couple? Many thanks in advance. Jan.

Hello Carmel, Thank you for your email. Nice to hear from you. Thanks for the website, which looks rather familiar, so guess have had a look at it. Yes, very aware about on-line records, and transcriptions from headstones only. Because what I require is relatively early know that problems could occur. Have to write to Melbourne General so will ask of course, and just maybe something will arise. Obtaining death cert's may be the only solution in some of these instances, but I wonder about the data cited for early cert's, as sometines they can be disappointing. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > Marina > A lot of online cemetery records are of the headstones, unmarked graves > usually need to be looked up by the cemetery trust unless they have put > the records online themselves. ( I stand to be corrected here??) > the only other way to find where they are buried is on the death > certificates. I know these can be expensive but will give you definite > cemetery where they are buried. > The other site you could check is www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ > this will take you to all cemeteries in Australia, but do remember many > only have pics or information from the headstones, I estimate about 1/3 of > all burials, but there is usually a contact for information on other > burials. Also some cemeteries have lost records, either through fire or > such, so still may not be able to help. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:54 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > > >> Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if >> possible. Religion C. of E. >> >> STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born >> aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, >> >> EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, >> Melbourne. >> >> ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, >> Collingwood. >> >> WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father >> of the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. >> >> SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born >> Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, >> 1866 - would love a record if possible. >> >> Doubt if there will be any headstones. >> >> Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and >> transferred. >> >> Any help with this much appreciated. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marina >> Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if possible. Religion C. of E. STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, Melbourne. ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, Collingwood. WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father of the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, 1866 - would love a record if possible. Doubt if there will be any headstones. Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and transferred. Any help with this much appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Marina Christchurch New Zealand

Marina A lot of online cemetery records are of the headstones, unmarked graves usually need to be looked up by the cemetery trust unless they have put the records online themselves. ( I stand to be corrected here??) the only other way to find where they are buried is on the death certificates. I know these can be expensive but will give you definite cemetery where they are buried. The other site you could check is www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ this will take you to all cemeteries in Australia, but do remember many only have pics or information from the headstones, I estimate about 1/3 of all burials, but there is usually a contact for information on other burials. Also some cemeteries have lost records, either through fire or such, so still may not be able to help. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if > possible. Religion C. of E. > > STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born > aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, > > EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, > Melbourne. > > ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, > Collingwood. > > WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father of > the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. > > SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born > Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, > 1866 - would love a record if possible. > > Doubt if there will be any headstones. > > Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and > transferred. > > Any help with this much appreciated. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > > Marina > Christchurch > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Lyn Great to hear from you ,hope you are keeping well ,,yes this Kenneth is a real problem ,,,what I'm trying to do is to find which Kenneth I should be obtaining the marriage information for. When I search the PROV site the only Kenneth I come up with has a father named Kenneth which is correct but the mother is Margaret Butler instead of Margaret Smith..and according to the Lancefield cemetery info he would have been born in 1847 not the 1844 that was on his marriage details??? Information from a very distant relation Geraldine Fennessy (Melbourne) who is related to John McKenzie (born 4/1/1843) has said that that on the birth information of the oldest son George (born 1839) the mother is recorded as Margaret Butler. Confusion reigns. Regards and take care. Ron -- Ron McKenzie Email: ronmac@tadaust.org.au Phone: 07-38141490 Brisbane Australia

Hi Marina, Just in case you didn't have the direct email of Melbourne General. They are very helpful and you usually get a reply within two days. mgc@necropolis.com.au best wishes, Jenny Coates Melbourne's Unemployed in the 1890s http://home.primusonline.com.au/jennyc/Melbourne/ -----Original Message----- From: Marina & Bruce Borland <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:56:58 +1200 Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. Hello Carmel, Thank you for your email. Nice to hear from you. Thanks for the website, which looks rather familiar, so guess have had a look at it. Yes, very aware about on-line records, and transcriptions from headstones only. Because what I require is relatively early know that problems could occur. Have to write to Melbourne General so will ask of course, and just maybe something will arise. Obtaining death cert's may be the only solution in some of these instances, but I wonder about the data cited for early cert's, as sometines they can be disappointing. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > Marina > A lot of online cemetery records are of the headstones, unmarked graves > usually need to be looked up by the cemetery trust unless they have put > the records online themselves. ( I stand to be corrected here??) > the only other way to find where they are buried is on the death > certificates. I know these can be expensive but will give you definite > cemetery where they are buried. > The other site you could check is www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ > this will take you to all cemeteries in Australia, but do remember many > only have pics or information from the headstones, I estimate about 1/3 of > all burials, but there is usually a contact for information on other > burials. Also some cemeteries have lost records, either through fire or > such, so still may not be able to help. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:54 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Cemetery and Records - Help Please .Surname - WORSLEY. > > >> Looking for the cemetery where these people were buried, and records if >> possible. Religion C. of E. >> >> STEPHEN WORSLEY, died June/July 1848, aged 10 days, at Melbourne. (Born >> aboard the ship "Adelaide") Parish St James, Melbourne, >> >> EVE WORSLEY, died 1850, aged 1 year at Collingwood. Parish St Peters, >> Melbourne. >> >> ADAM WORSLEY, died 1852, aged 4 months , at Collingwood. Parish St Marks, >> Collingwood. >> >> WILLIAM WORSLEY, died at Dandenong, 1885, age stated was 82. The father >> of the above. Born Gloucestershire, England. >> >> SARAH WORSLEY, died 1st April, 1866. Wife of William, above. Born >> Gloucestershire, England. Interred in the Melbourne Cemetery, 4th April, >> 1866 - would love a record if possible. >> >> Doubt if there will be any headstones. >> >> Know about the Victoria market site where graves were dug up and >> transferred. >> >> Any help with this much appreciated. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marina >> Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== >> ==================================================== >> Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

G'day, my understanding is that during that era, a ToL operated similarly to parole today. I have never researched the Victorian system, but am familiar with VDL & NSW. Once granted, the ToL allowed a prisoner a degree of liberty, conditional upon him residing in a specified district; being of good behaviour; etc. So, it would be granted prior to the date when his sentence would otherwise expire. I am aware that when a ToL was misplaced or damaged, a replacement would be issued. Perhaps the ToL you refer to was a replacement, and tha might explain the discrepancy between the date of release, and the issue of that ToL. Re July to Dec: didn't Old Melbourne Gaol overlap with Pentridge for a long time ? Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA <pmthomas@bigpond.com> -----Original Message----- From: player6 [mailto:player6@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 9:23 AM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ticket of Leave Hello All, I have a copy of the Ticket of Leave for Thomas Fowler dated 29th Dec 1851. He was convicted on 16th July 1850 and sentenced to three years hard labour. Received at Pentridge Dec 9th 1850. I don't know where he was from July to Dec. He was given two months additional sentence for refusing to work in August 1851. Does anyone know why he would be allowed a ToL in Dec 1851 if his sentence was three years hard labour on the roads of the colony? Also is it possible for his ToL to be dated after his actual release? I know this sometimes happened in NSW with convicts. He was supposed to meet and marry his 'wife' in November 1851. She was fresh off the boat in late October. If he was in jail, how would they meet? Any ideas would be appreciated. Kind regards Maureen ______________________________

Hi Ron, still looking for the elusive divorce? I don't think you will find one. My thought is that kenneth just walked out on MaryAnn early in the marriage. probably after the 2nd girl was born. I think MaryAnn was probably a servant to the man mentioned on the 1st girls dcert. He (or her employer) is most likely the father of Angus. Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron McKenzie" <ronmac@tadaust.org.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Kenneth McKenzie /Mary MacIntosh > Trying to find divorce information for Kenneth McKenzie and Mary Ann > MacIntosh somewhere around 1868 to 1880,where can these records be found > (if anywhere). > Regards > Ron > > -- > Ron McKenzie > Email: ronmac@tadaust.org.au > Phone: 07-38141490 > Brisbane > Australia > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Carmel, Thank-you, well that solved that. What paper would I look at to find a death notice for Jane ?(1940) Thanks again Denise

Hi Carmel, No idea, didn't know she existed until this afternoon, and on the website it doesn't give the date of burial. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Who's in bed with Grandad > Denise > When did Jane Die? > Carmel

and here is Jane's death Carmel From: "Denise & Peter" <dapw@globe.co.nz> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Who's in bed with Grandad Date: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 4:13 PM Hi Carmel, No idea, didn't know she existed until this afternoon, and on the website it doesn't give the date of burial. Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Query ----- Surname : slater (476 matches) Given Names : jane (30056 matches) Total matching records: 6 -------------------- Surname: SLATER Given Names: Jane Marie Father: Price Jno Mother: Ellen SPENCER Death Place: MELB Age: 70 Age Code: Year: 1940 Reg Number: 297 Event: D Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Who's in bed with Grandad > Denise > When did Jane Die? > Carmel ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise & Peter" <dapw@globe.co.nz> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Who's in bed with Grandad > Hi Carmel, > > No idea, didn't know she existed until this afternoon, and on the website > it doesn't give the date of burial. > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Who's in bed with Grandad > > >> Denise >> When did Jane Die? >> Carmel > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >