Hi Travis Thanks for this - I thought it had been taken over too but someone sent me details from a sort of group business website with a phone number for W G APPS and SONS still in St Kilda. I will ring them today, and will not be surprised if they answer "good Morning, Le Pines" . No internet or email given for APPS itself so probably it really does not exist under that name, just as you say. I don't expect I will be coming down to the tour late May. There has been a lot of things on the last couple of weeks for one thing - and now my daughter and her partner of over 10 years have made a wedding reception booking for October. They also moved last week - things are hectic there, and Jen and I have to go shopping for the cake this weekend (by appointment at this shop she likes, thanks to internet) and then the dress first, birdesmaid's dress second, and then mine. In sopare minutres at home, once the hosuework and a bit f gardening is done, I am sorting through the family history stuff which is houwI found this tiny little cutting of the funeral notice. Nothing else on thepage, just the notice clipped out so onecolumn wide by about 5 lines high. How on earth did such a tiny thing get preserved in a box of cards and stuff? I had done a rough sort when I first got it years back swhenwe had to clear Mum's house to rent it out to pay for her nursing home, but I just shoved all such things in an envelope and sealed it for safe keeping. I did not expect it would be four years before I got back to it. I do intend to come down to Brighton and go through and find the actual grave even though you sent the photo intially, and see about a marker for it. But that will be during the week when the office is open so not, probably, when you are around. I suspect it will be after the wedding before I really get to things of genealogy again. And I shoud do the same for Tom Hunter's mother who is in St Kilda and Tom's wife and son, my uncle, who are in Springvale. None are marked.. In the meantime, get this stuff sorted andinto a good storage system. I want acid free but not sure about costs; it might have to be the best I can afford and tough if it is not proper archival quality. The very mportant things will go inacid free .. Make photocopies of the lot of course, and one copy of it all for each of my three children and a few spares for any grandchildren I might get. Bye for now Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Travis Sellers [mailto:tsellers@siag.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 6:19 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] Re: funeral directors (Apps) Hello Dawn - Long time no hear. (Will you be coming to our tour on 28/5?) Don Chambers in "100 Years of Le Pine 1891-1991" covers a whole chapter on the Apps firm. It was founded by William George Apps in Fitzroy sometime after a stint on the goldfields. With his background as a cabinet-maker and upholsterer, he set up a business in Collingwood possibly as early as 1854.. Four years later he moved to Moor St, Fitzroy. The first known funeral Apps carried out was in March 1860. Many cabinet-makers cum coffin makers branched into the lucrative business of funerals. W. G. Raven was another example. W G Apps had 12 children, but several died at a young age. Many of the Apps family are at St. Kilda Cemetery. Arthur Apps (a well-known St. Kilda identity) opened the St. Kilda branch in 1885. By 1895, William G. Apps retired to St. Kilda leaving the business to his sons, hence the name "Apps and Son". The St. Kilda branch appears to have operated initially from 155 Fitzroy St, Fitzroy and thereafter at two locations in Robe Street (No 16 and No 40). After the Second World War, the firm were located at 395 High (Carlisle) Street, St. Kilda Two of the biggest funerals undertaken by Apps were Sir William Clarke (1897) and Sir John Monash (1931) - massive affairs. In 1979 another old firm - Roderick McKenzie at South Melbourne was taken over by Apps and Son. In 1984, Le Pine took over the three Apps business - High Street (Carlisle Street), Clarendon St South Melbourne and Burgundy Street Heidelberg and are still operating today. I am sure Le Pine will still have the old Apps records. Kind regards Travis M. Sellers Brighton Cemetorians (CEMEtery hisTORIANS) PO Box 8054 North Road LPO EAST BRIGHTON VIC 3187 AUSTRALIA mailto:info@brightoncemetorians.org visit our website: http://www.brightoncemetorians.org To) AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: funeral directors I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it has the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and so on. I have just found the clipping of the funeral notice of my paternal grandfather, Tom HUNTER, who died about 16 years before I was born. (Alfred Thomas HUNTER.) It was conducted by the funeral directors APPS and SON in St Kilda, Friday 11th September. (1931 according to the Brighton cemetery.) It is a name I remember but is no longer in the white pages. Does anyone know what has become of this company and where any records (if they survive) may be kept? I would like of course to see the records relating to my grandfather - I feel I hardly knew Dad's family as they never talked about things like Mum's did. I THINK the same company "did" the funerals of Tom's parents too, both in the 1920s from memory. APPS is ringing bells in my mind from years ago when I was a young child. Maybe they buried Dad's brother Howard Bruce HUNTER who died April 1949 - he also lived in the St Kilda region. I was 2 aned 6 days old I think, but remember him visiting me to give me an Easter egg - and he died on the way home from that visit. APPS was certainly a name I remember being tossed about when funeral directors were needed for Dad's family. thanks for any help Dawn (Croydon, Melbourne) -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Listers, This lookup has been done off-list due to the length of the reply. Regards, Dorne. Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** PLEASE SNIP REPLIES ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 *********************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan" <janealogy@westnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:07 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] MARRIAGE AND BIRTH LOOKUPS PLEASE Hi everyone, >> Would someone please be able to lookup for me the marriage of Martin >> FORDE (middle name possibly Lawrence) and Frances TOMKINS. Also, if time >> permits, the birth details of their children also, please.

Hi Bob, As you probably know Alice & Sidney's deaths are both registered at BERWICK. Their's and three of their children's death dates are reasonably recent so there must be some descendants out there. The local BERWICK FHS group may hold some information. Regards, Dorne. ******************************************************************** Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Sidney Valentine Father: Sewell Rich Blamire Mother: Emma COTTRELL Death Place: BERWICK Age: 69 Age Code: Year: 1949 Reg Number: 16389 Event: D Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Alice Maud Father: Cunning James Mother: Annie May MAY Death Place: BERW Age: 90 Age Code: Year: 1971 Reg Number: 3836 Event: D ******************************************************************** Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Joan Sidney Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentine Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maud CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: MELBOURNE EAST Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 13498 Family Name: SEWELL Given Name: Joan Sidney Spouse Family Name: SEWELL Spouse Given Name: Jas Erskine Registration Year: 1936 Registration Number: 10416 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Sidney Arold Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentin Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maude CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: MELBOURNE EAST Death Place: Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 23821 Family Name: SEWELL Given Name: Sidney Arnold Spouse Family Name: KYLE Spouse Given Name: Valerie Rena Registration Year: 1941 Registration Number: 2184 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Sidney Arnold Father: Sidney Valenti Mother: Alice May Death Place: HAWT Age: 70 Age Code: Year: 1984 Reg Number: 08258 Event: D ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Elizth Sidney Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentine Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maud CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: MELB E Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 23387 ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Suzanne Sidney Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentine Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maud CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: MELB E Death Place: Year: 1917 Reg. Number: 13853 Family Name: SEWELL Given Name: Suzanne Sidney Spouse Family Name: MATTHEWS Spouse Given Name: Patk Fleming Registration Year: 1940 Registration Number: 14692 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Surname: MATTHEWS Given Names: Suzanne Sidney Father: Sewell Sidney Mother: Alice Maud Death Place: NEER Age: 64 Age Code: Year: 1981 Reg Number: 12042 Event: D ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Patience Sidney Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentine Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maud CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: MELB E Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 5108 Family Name: SEWELL Given Name: Patience Sidney Spouse Family Name: NIXON Spouse Given Name: Brian George Registration Year: 1941 Registration Number: 2609 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Surname: NIXON Given Names: Patience Sidney Father: Sewell Sidney Balantine Mother: Alice Maud CUMMING Death Place: E MELB Age: 26 Age Code: Year: 1945 Reg Number: 4757 Event: D ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Surname: SEWELL Given Names: Phyllis Sidney Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Sidney Valentine Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Maud CUNNING Age: Age Code: Birth Place: S YARRA Death Place: Year: 1920 Reg. Number: 35439 ******************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** PLEASE SNIP REPLIES ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 *********************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:49 PM > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Sir Sidney SEWELL >> Hello. I wonder if anyone has information on Sidney Valentine Sewell, > later >> Sir Sidney? His line was from Cumberland in UK. >> He married Alice Maud CUNNING in Victoria, Australia on 18.3.1908. I > would >> like to hear from you, to swap information.

Hi June, This does not appear to be your "Ellen", (she is Helena NOLAN) married to Robert WATSON, the parent's names are very different although her birth was registered at SALE and had a brother Joseph. Her brother Joseph NOLAN married an Ellen. J. REYNOLDS in 1900. There is a Margaret Ellen REYNOLDS registered in 1884. All except Robert & Helena WATSON nee NOLAN appear to vanish off the index. Helena was registered in 1868 but her death age puts her 10 years younger born about 1878, the same year Robert Francis WATSON was registered Regards, Dorne. ********************************************************************************************** Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Helena Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: WATSON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Robt Francis Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 1853R Surname: WATSON Given Names: Robt Francis Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: NOLAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HBERG Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 1853 Surname: NATSON Given Names: Robt Francis Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: NOLAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HBERG Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 1853R Surname: WATSON Given Names: Helena Father: Nolan Jno Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Death Place: HBERG Age: 50---------------------------------------BORN C<1878> Age Code: Year: 1928 Reg Number: 15146 Event: D Surname: WATSON Given Names: Robt Francis Father: Watson Robt Reid Mother: Janet WOODS Death Place: E MELB Age: 69-----------------------------------BORN C<1879> Age Code: Year: 1948 Reg Number: 1520 Event: D ********************************************************************************************* Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Ellen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: John Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane STEVENSON Age: Sex: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 25888 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WATSON Given Names: Robert Francis Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Miller Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Janet WOODS Age: Sex: Birth Place: HE ID Death Place: Year: 1878 Reg Number: 16602 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ********************************************************************************************* Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Jos Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: REYNOLDS Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen J Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1900 Reg. Number: 4223 Surname: REYNOLDS Given Names: Ellen Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: NOLAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jos Age: Age Code: Birth Place: VIC Death Place: Year: 1900 Reg. Number: 4223 1) Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Ernt Jos Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Jos Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen REYNOLDS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: CARLTON W HOSP Death Place: Year: 1900 Reg. Number: 25170 2) Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Ellen Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Jos Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen REYNOLDS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: CARLTON Death Place: Year: 1902 Reg. Number: 1627 ********************************************************************************************* Surname: REYNOLDS Given Names: Margaret Ellen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Thomas Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elizabet MONCRIEF Age: Sex: Birth Place: CARL Death Place: Year: 1884 Reg Number: 7988 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Joseph Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: John Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jane STEVENSON Age: Sex: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 4387 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ********************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 *********************************************** -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin and June [mailto:therobos2@dodo.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:17 PM > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Marriage > > > Hi, hoping some kind person can find a marriage for me between Ellen Nolan b > 1868 to Joseph Nolan and Margaret Ellen Reynolds. married Robert Watson. not > sure on a date or year. > thanking you, > June >

Hi Robert, Did you receive my e-mail the other day after your first query? I listed your two men from the 1899 Federal Referendum & 1904 Postal Directory. Regards, Dorne. ****************************************************************************************************************************** EX 1899 FEDERAL REFERENDUM - VICTORIA MITCHELL Fredercik, Merton Street, SOUTH MELBOURNE - Tailor MITCHELL James.M., 74 Merton Street, ALBERT PARK. - Tailor ****************************************************************************************************************************** EX 1904 VICTORIAN POSTAL DIRECTORY (Private residential) MITCHELL F., 98 Merton Street, ALBERT PARK MITCHELL Jas., 74 Merton Street, ALBERT PARK. `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` (Commercial & Professional Directory) MITCHELL Fredk., Tailor, 96 Bridport Street, SOUTH MELBOURNE ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` (Trades directory) MITCHELL F., Tailor, 96 Bridport Street, SOUTH MELBOURNE MITCHEL & MCCABE, 190 Bourke Street & 304 Clarendon Street, SOUTH MELBOURNE ****************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** PLEASE SNIP REPLIES ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <rkemsley@idl.net.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Re: Assistance Please - MITCHELL McCABE Menswear, 306-308 Clarendon St,South Melbourne > Does anyone live near: > > MITCHELL McCABE Menswear > 306-308 Clarendon Street, > South Melbourne 3205? > > If so; could you please describe the shop front there please, as it > could very well be the shop and family that I am seeking information of - > The MITCHELL'S? > > Or could someone take a Digital photo of and e-mail it to me please to > asist with identification? > > Any assistance; very much appreciated. > > Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY >

Hi Warren, I thought this may be Austin's marriage (below) as they were from PLYMOUTH. I suspect they may have gone overseas as there are no births to them here. Then Austin's death is in NEW SOUTH WALES some years later. No sign of Leanora at all. I sent Colleen quite a bit of information on what appears to be Alfred's family. He appears to have married Jessie R. HUNTER in 1897 in NEW SOUTH WALES. Austin & Harriet's death certificates should state where and when they were buried. Regards, Dorne. ****************************************************************************************** Surname: POWER Given Names: Austin Bernard Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: ROBERTS Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Leonora Blanch Age: Sex: M Birth Place: PLYMOUTH Death Place: Year: 1885 Reg Number: 4926 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ******************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: [AUS-MELB] POWER family into Melbourne in 1854.

Hi Warren, Charles POWER definitely died at sea, I have the scan of the death entry. Regards, Dorne. Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: [AUS-MELB] William Henry DOYLE > Hi Colleen and Dorne, > > I agree with Dorne as I have Charles Blight POWER, a twin, come out on the > Fitzjames in 1854. He died at sea and his brother, Francis Foot POWER, > died > in Melbourne the next year. Both were written down upon arrival. However, > on > the Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888. > > Surname: POWER > Given Names: Charles > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: Austin > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet BARDENS > Age: INF > Sex: > Birth Place: PLYMOUTH > Death Place: AT SEA > Year: 1854 > Reg Number: 119M > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche:

Hi Listers, Joanne appears to have the parents names correct (Edwin Alfred SALTER & Alice COTTRELL). It appears they were not married in AUSTRALIA nor are there any births registered to the couple. Their 28 year old daughter Alice died at CAMPBELLFIELD, VICTORIA. Regards, Dorne. Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** PLEASE SNIP REPLIES ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 *********************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond W. Henderson" <batie@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Lookup Please > Think you need to go back and make sure of the parents and their right names > please as I can find no record of a marriage of a SALTER to a COTTRELL

take a look at this web page there is a small photo of 96 Bridport Street Albert Park. Bridport Street does run into the suburb of South Melbourne however the tailor shop was actually in Albert Park http://www.gaavictoria.org.au/home/type1.php?id=87 Cheers -- ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.`Chris Bryce Qld Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenore Frost" <lenore10@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] Frederick Mitchell, Tailor of 96 Bridport St, South Melbourne. : >Subject: Re: Frederick Mitchell, Tailor of 96 Bridport St, South Melbourne. : >> : > Another Fellow Lister was good enough to find the following for us: : > : > "Frederick Mitchell was listed as a tailor at 96 Bridport St, South : >Melbourne". : > : > Up until now; we've assumed that both James & Frederick MITCHELL, : >Tailors of Melbourne had their shop in Melbourne's CBD, but we are now : >wondering if it was at this address; 96 Bridport St, South Melbourne? : > Fredericks 2 eldest Sons; William Kent & Herbert Frederick were also : >Tailors. : > : > Does anyone know this area and if so; is there a shop or shops : >heresabouts? : > : > We've also a couple of photos of the MITCHELL Tailors shop: : > It's a 2 story building (With similar on both sides of and abutting) : >with 2 windows above the shop. : > Across the top of doorway and above the road gutter is a sign - "304 : >Practical Tailors" : > Below this and across the Glass Display Windows is "MITCHELL & : >McCABE"; : >this is also repeated below the windows. : > : > Does this help in any way; to identify the shop and it's then : >whereabouts? Bearing in mind; that this would have been some years back : >now? : > : > Kindest Regards; : > Robert KEMSLEY : : Hi Robert, : : You do have very useful information to identify the shops. What you need to : look at is the Sands & McDougall Post Office Directory, which came out : annually, more or less from the 1860s to 1974. It has an alpha section and : a suburban section by street address. These have been reproduced on : microfiche and would be at your nearest genealogical library, or large : library like the one in Auckland. It can be quite time-consuming to go : through these directories year by year, so it would be better for the : quality of your research to plan to do it yourself so you can check it out : throughly. You would certainly be able to follow these tailors' careers : through the Sands & Mc. It would take maybe about two hours to trace them : year by year for twenty years, so it's not a job for a mere'lookup'. : Businesses moved around because they were often in rented premises, so they : might have been in Bridport St one year, and somewhere else the next. : Obviously they were somewhere else numbered 306 - or the street was : renumbered. : : : Best wishes, : : Lenore Frost : Essendon, Vic : : : : ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== : ==================================================== : If you wish to make personal contact with List Admin Ray at batie@ozemail.com.au : : ============================== : Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. : New content added every business day. Learn more: : http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx : :

THANK YOU!! It was just APPS and SONS in the funeral notice - must have changed. It didn't come up in the whitepages online though. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: PTE [mailto:pte@ihug.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 5:03 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors Should have looked further, sorry. See http://www.hotfrog.com.au/Companies/Apps-W-G-Sons Paul in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors >I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it >has > the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far > back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and > so on. ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ==================================================== Searchable archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks Maria - I just emailed "ask a librarian" as I could not see anything directly on the site... Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Maria Celano [mailto:maria.celano@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:13 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors Try the State Library of Victoria They have a web site that may answer your enquiry. I know a gentleman just received some information about funeral company that he was looking for and the State Library was helpful... through this mailing list Maria On 5/16/06, Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. > it has the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, > some as far back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of > condolence, and so on. > > I have just found the clipping of the funeral notice of my paternal > grandfather, Tom HUNTER, who died about 16 years before I was born. > (Alfred Thomas HUNTER.) > > It was conducted by the funeral directors APPS and SON in St Kilda, > Friday 11th September. (1931 according to the Brighton cemetery.) It > is a name I remember but is no longer in the white pages. > > Does anyone know what has become of this company and where any records > (if they survive) may be kept? I would like of course to see the > records relating to my grandfather - I feel I hardly knew Dad's family > as they never > talked about things like Mum's did. I THINK the same company "did" the > funerals of Tom's parents too, both in the 1920s from memory. APPS is > ringing bells in my mind from years ago when I was a young child. > > Maybe they buried Dad's brother Howard Bruce HUNTER who died April > 1949 - he also lived in the St Kilda region. I was 2 aned 6 days old > I think, but remember him visiting me to give me an Easter egg - and > he died on the way home from that visit. APPS was certainly a name I > remember being tossed about when funeral directors were needed for > Dad's family. > > thanks for any help > > Dawn (Croydon, Melbourne) > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hello Dawn - Long time no hear. (Will you be coming to our tour on 28/5?) Don Chambers in "100 Years of Le Pine 1891-1991" covers a whole chapter on the Apps firm. It was founded by William George Apps in Fitzroy sometime after a stint on the goldfields. With his background as a cabinet-maker and upholsterer, he set up a business in Collingwood possibly as early as 1854.. Four years later he moved to Moor St, Fitzroy. The first known funeral Apps carried out was in March 1860. Many cabinet-makers cum coffin makers branched into the lucrative business of funerals. W. G. Raven was another example. W G Apps had 12 children, but several died at a young age. Many of the Apps family are at St. Kilda Cemetery. Arthur Apps (a well-known St. Kilda identity) opened the St. Kilda branch in 1885. By 1895, William G. Apps retired to St. Kilda leaving the business to his sons, hence the name "Apps and Son". The St. Kilda branch appears to have operated initially from 155 Fitzroy St, Fitzroy and thereafter at two locations in Robe Street (No 16 and No 40). After the Second World War, the firm were located at 395 High (Carlisle) Street, St. Kilda Two of the biggest funerals undertaken by Apps were Sir William Clarke (1897) and Sir John Monash (1931) - massive affairs. In 1979 another old firm - Roderick McKenzie at South Melbourne was taken over by Apps and Son. In 1984, Le Pine took over the three Apps business - High Street (Carlisle Street), Clarendon St South Melbourne and Burgundy Street Heidelberg and are still operating today. I am sure Le Pine will still have the old Apps records. Kind regards Travis M. Sellers Brighton Cemetorians (CEMEtery hisTORIANS) PO Box 8054 North Road LPO EAST BRIGHTON VIC 3187 AUSTRALIA mailto:info@brightoncemetorians.org visit our website: http://www.brightoncemetorians.org To) AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: funeral directors I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it has the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and so on. I have just found the clipping of the funeral notice of my paternal grandfather, Tom HUNTER, who died about 16 years before I was born. (Alfred Thomas HUNTER.) It was conducted by the funeral directors APPS and SON in St Kilda, Friday 11th September. (1931 according to the Brighton cemetery.) It is a name I remember but is no longer in the white pages. Does anyone know what has become of this company and where any records (if they survive) may be kept? I would like of course to see the records relating to my grandfather - I feel I hardly knew Dad's family as they never talked about things like Mum's did. I THINK the same company "did" the funerals of Tom's parents too, both in the 1920s from memory. APPS is ringing bells in my mind from years ago when I was a young child. Maybe they buried Dad's brother Howard Bruce HUNTER who died April 1949 - he also lived in the St Kilda region. I was 2 aned 6 days old I think, but remember him visiting me to give me an Easter egg - and he died on the way home from that visit. APPS was certainly a name I remember being tossed about when funeral directors were needed for Dad's family. thanks for any help Dawn (Croydon, Melbourne) -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg

The earlist Victorian Roll is 1856, not sure if was bt Electoral Districts, then 1899 Referendum for the Commonwealth. First really useful and complete Roll was 1903. Eric. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn and Sandra Matheson <gsbm2@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] Electoral Districts > Hello List, > Does anyone know how I can find out in what electoral district Franklin > Street Melbourne was in around 1850. Does anyone know of a website that has > such information. I am going to the SAG in Sydney and as I have heaps to > look at I would like to be able to go straight to the correct area. Any help > would be most welcome, > Regards > Sandy > Port Macquarie NSW > > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > ==================================================== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Check with Genealogy section, State Library of Victoria. I know they have some records of Funeral Directors on micro-film. Pretty sure I have seen Apps. Probably worth a trip to the Library. I think you will find them under the IN series. Ask at the desk. Eric. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dawn Webb <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors > I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it has > the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far > back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and > so on. > > I have just found the clipping of the funeral notice of my paternal > grandfather, Tom HUNTER, who died about 16 years before I was born. (Alfred > Thomas HUNTER.) > > It was conducted by the funeral directors APPS and SON in St Kilda, Friday > 11th September. (1931 according to the Brighton cemetery.) It is a name I > remember but is no longer in the white pages. > > Does anyone know what has become of this company and where any records (if > they survive) may be kept? I would like of course to see the records > relating to my grandfather - I feel I hardly knew Dad's family as they never > talked about things like Mum's did. I THINK the same company "did" the > funerals of Tom's parents too, both in the 1920s from memory. APPS is > ringing bells in my mind from years ago when I was a young child. > > Maybe they buried Dad's brother Howard Bruce HUNTER who died April 1949 - he > also lived in the St Kilda region. I was 2 aned 6 days old I think, but > remember him visiting me to give me an Easter egg - and he died on the way > home from that visit. APPS was certainly a name I remember being tossed > about when funeral directors were needed for Dad's family. > > thanks for any help > > Dawn (Croydon, Melbourne) > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

June, Here it is: Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Helena Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: NATSON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Robt Francis Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 1853 Surname: NOLAN Given Names: Helena Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: WATSON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Robt Francis Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SALE Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 1853R Below is a birth: Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: WATSON Given Names: Jno Fran Leslie Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Robt Francis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Helena NOLAN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: IVANHOE Death Place: Year: 1909 Reg. Number: 11798 Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Kevin and June [mailto:therobos2@dodo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:52 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-MELB] Marriage Sorry, I ment to put it in .Sale Victoria., Do you know if there were any siblings too. thank you, June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] Marriage > June, > > There's a few marriages in relation to Ellen Nolan. I note you say what year > Ellen was born, can you tell me where she was born? This would help me track > down the right marriage. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin and June [mailto:therobos2@dodo.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:17 PM > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Marriage > > > Hi, hoping some kind person can find a marriage for me between Ellen Nolan b > 1868 to Joseph Nolan and Margaret Ellen Reynolds. married Robert Watson. not > sure on a date or year. > thanking you, > June > > -- > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now! > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > If you wish to make personal contact with List Admin Ray at > batie@ozemail.com.au > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 12/05/2006 > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now! ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== Searchable archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-MELBOURNE-L ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006

Should have looked further, sorry. See http://www.hotfrog.com.au/Companies/Apps-W-G-Sons Paul in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors >I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it >has > the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far > back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and > so on.

The full name of the funeral directors may be "WG Apps & Sons". There are a couple fo references to this funeral director when you google the name. Paul in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:25 PM Subject: [AUS-MELB] funeral directors >I am going through a box of memorabilia from Mum who died last year.. it >has > the accumulated "treasures" of her, my Dad, and their parents, some as far > back as from the 1930 and 40s. Birthday cards, letters of condolence, and > so on. > > I have just found the clipping of the funeral notice of my paternal > grandfather, Tom HUNTER, who died about 16 years before I was born. > (Alfred > Thomas HUNTER.) > > It was conducted by the funeral directors APPS and SON in St Kilda, Friday > 11th September. (1931 according to the Brighton cemetery.) It is a name > I > remember but is no longer in the white pages. > > Does anyone know what has become of this company and where any records (if > they survive) may be kept? I would like of course to see the records > relating to my grandfather - I feel I hardly knew Dad's family as they > never > talked about things like Mum's did. I THINK the same company "did" the > funerals of Tom's parents too, both in the 1920s from memory. APPS is > ringing bells in my mind from years ago when I was a young child. > > Maybe they buried Dad's brother Howard Bruce HUNTER who died April 1949 - > he > also lived in the St Kilda region. I was 2 aned 6 days old I think, but > remember him visiting me to give me an Easter egg - and he died on the way > home from that visit. APPS was certainly a name I remember being tossed > about when funeral directors were needed for Dad's family. > > thanks for any help > > Dawn (Croydon, Melbourne)

Sorry, I ment to put it in .Sale Victoria., Do you know if there were any siblings too. thank you, June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-MELB] Marriage > June, > > There's a few marriages in relation to Ellen Nolan. I note you say what year > Ellen was born, can you tell me where she was born? This would help me track > down the right marriage. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin and June [mailto:therobos2@dodo.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:17 PM > To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELB] Marriage > > > Hi, hoping some kind person can find a marriage for me between Ellen Nolan b > 1868 to Joseph Nolan and Margaret Ellen Reynolds. married Robert Watson. not > sure on a date or year. > thanking you, > June > > -- > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now! > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > If you wish to make personal contact with List Admin Ray at > batie@ozemail.com.au > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 > > > ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== > ==================================================== > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 12/05/2006 > > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now!

June, There's a few marriages in relation to Ellen Nolan. I note you say what year Ellen was born, can you tell me where she was born? This would help me track down the right marriage. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Kevin and June [mailto:therobos2@dodo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 4:17 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELB] Marriage Hi, hoping some kind person can find a marriage for me between Ellen Nolan b 1868 to Joseph Nolan and Margaret Ellen Reynolds. married Robert Watson. not sure on a date or year. thanking you, June -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now! ==== AUS-MELBOURNE Mailing List ==== ==================================================== If you wish to make personal contact with List Admin Ray at batie@ozemail.com.au ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/340 - Release Date: 15/05/2006

Hi, hoping some kind person can find a marriage for me between Ellen Nolan b 1868 to Joseph Nolan and Margaret Ellen Reynolds. married Robert Watson. not sure on a date or year. thanking you, June -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2646 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com/pro for free now!