Hello Ada, Thankyou for that information. So far I have found my Ah Cue listed on several indexes as John Cue, Wm. Cue, Lim Cue, and Lem Cue, I also have seen a couple of instances where he is listed as Cwe, Que, and Kew. However, I am very lucky in that he signed his marriage certificate with his Chinese symbol. I have had it tranlated by two different sources including the Chinese Embassy in Canberra and they assure me the name is spelt QIAO. It means "Bridge" or a "Crossing Over". One has to think laterally when researching Chinese ancestors. Regards, Barry Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > It may be listed as QUE, my ancestor was buried as "LIN QUE" in a little > cemetery north of Ararat. > > Regards Ada

Hello Jessie, A correction. Please note marriage for Frank Cecil Sanders, the bride's surname should read NICHOL not Nicholas. Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Dee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Anyone got CD for N/Zealand any of this lot > Has any one got C.D for new Zealand > Martha Comrie SHANKS Father Thomas David SHANKS born > N/Z > mother born Scotland > Brother of Martha Comrie SHANKS > John Comrie Cambell SHANKS born KURI near Kurow N/Z maybe around late > 1880's or 1890 > > Marriage of Martha SHANKS to John Reginald SANDER I thought maybe > (SAUNDERS)Sbe most grateful for any advice here lived in OMARAMA in the > marriage days Many thanks Jessie > > frank cecil SANDERS or SAUNDES many thanks I have sent for the > Probate of Martha Comrie SHANKS > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Jessie, Found these: A, MARTHA COMRIE SHANKS married JOHN REGINALD SANDERS in 1919. Folio number: 9288 A, JOHN COMRIE CAMPBELL SHANKS married ELIZABETH STEVENS HOGG in 1921. Folio number: 05479 A, FRANK CECIL SANDERS married MARTHA MILLER NICHOLAS in 1912. Folio number: 6287. www.bdm.govt.nz for certificates. John Reginald Shanks (aged 25) married 7 October, 1919, Kurow Parish. Frank Cecil Sanders (aged 31) married 16 May 1912, St James Parish (South Dunedin) See http://www.archives.presbyterian.org.nz/marriageregisters/ Register of Otago and Southland Marriages. New Zealand births and deaths are indexed on microfiche, 1848 -1990. Parents names are not stated, until 1960 when the birth mother's first name and second initial (if she had one) are provided only. New Zealand Marriages are on CD 1836-1956. On microfiche 1848 to 1990. Regards, Marina New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessie Dee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Anyone got CD for N/Zealand any of this lot > Has any one got C.D for new Zealand > Martha Comrie SHANKS Father Thomas David SHANKS born > N/Z > mother born Scotland > Brother of Martha Comrie SHANKS > John Comrie Cambell SHANKS born KURI near Kurow N/Z maybe around late > 1880's or 1890 > > Marriage of Martha SHANKS to John Reginald SANDER I thought maybe > (SAUNDERS)Sbe most grateful for any advice here lived in OMARAMA in the > marriage days Many thanks Jessie > > frank cecil SANDERS or SAUNDES many thanks I have sent for the > Probate of Martha Comrie SHANKS > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It may be listed as QUE, my ancestor was buried as "LIN QUE" in a little cemetery north of Ararat. Regards Ada Anne Hanson wrote: > Hi Barry, > > I find this most curious as I checked both the burial register and the > Memorials Index on the Wangaratta Cemetery CD and could find no mention of > Cue. I'm not saying your great grandfather is not buried at Wang - seems to > me there's a problem with the info on the cd. > > Cheers > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 7:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the > Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather > Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. > > It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and died > > there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta > in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but > that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it > all the more difficult to find him. > > Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. > > Regards, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > > >> Hi Barry >> >> Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but >> there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. >> >> If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back >> to >> China? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Anne Hanson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard >> Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found any >> connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. >> >> William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index >> has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a >> Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in >> Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. >> >> Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my >> grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was split >> up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each >> other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find >> the >> final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one >> that >> I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also >> remains a mystery.. >> >> Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Barry Howard. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Hi Barry >> >> I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my own >> family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November >> 1890 >> at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the Vic. >> Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee DONCASTER). >> >> See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an >> e-mail >> to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: >> >> [email protected] >> >> Cheers >> >> Anne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 >> 10:15 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 >> 5:26 AM >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Has any one got C.D for new Zealand Martha Comrie SHANKS Father Thomas David SHANKS born N/Z mother born Scotland Brother of Martha Comrie SHANKS John Comrie Cambell SHANKS born KURI near Kurow N/Z maybe around late 1880's or 1890 Marriage of Martha SHANKS to John Reginald SANDER I thought maybe (SAUNDERS)Sbe most grateful for any advice here lived in OMARAMA in the marriage days Many thanks Jessie frank cecil SANDERS or SAUNDES many thanks I have sent for the Probate of Martha Comrie SHANKS

Goodness gracious Barry how silly am I? I went and had another look at the cd and guess what I found the following: Ah, Cue. Age 64; Buried 8 January 1902; Resided Wangaratta; Section Church of England No. 1; Plot 678 C. So that solves that little problem. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue Hi Anne, Your Cd may be ok after all. It appears the Wangaratta Cemetery Burial Register has my G/grandfather's name the wrong way around. I had another look at my printed copy of Ah Cue's entry in the register and it seems they have used the name Ah as his surname and Cue as his christian name. I had not noticed this before. So this may account for the anomally on the Cd. His grave location is - Section, C of E, No.1 - Plot, 678C. Buried 8 January 1902. Ah Cue's eldest daughter Ethel Maude is buried there also, but she is under her married name - Delloro. Regards, Barry Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Hi Barry, > > I find this most curious as I checked both the burial register and the > Memorials Index on the Wangaratta Cemetery CD and could find no mention of > Cue. I'm not saying your great grandfather is not buried at Wang - seems > to > me there's a problem with the info on the cd. > > Cheers > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 7:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the > Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather > Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. > > It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and > died > > there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta > in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but > that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it > all the more difficult to find him. > > Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. > > Regards, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > >> Hi Barry >> >> Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but >> there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. >> >> If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back >> to >> China? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Anne Hanson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard >> Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found >> any >> connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. >> >> William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index >> has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a >> Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in >> Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. >> >> Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my >> grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was >> split >> up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each >> other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find >> the >> final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one >> that >> I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also >> remains a mystery.. >> >> Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Barry Howard. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Hi Barry >> >> I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my >> own >> family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November >> 1890 >> at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the >> Vic. >> Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee >> DONCASTER). >> >> See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an >> e-mail >> to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: >> >> [email protected] >> >> Cheers >> >> Anne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 >> 10:15 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 >> 5:26 AM >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 7:50 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hello Carmel, Thankyou for that reassurance. Cheers, Barry Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Barry > Take heart, I believe Ah is in fact a title such as Mr. so many Chinese > who > were known as Ah were in fact Mr. or such. > I am in the middle of a cemetery project where there were a lot of Chinese > so we are doing two entries for each as often there surname would be used > first etc. very confusing but we hope we are covering the problem. > Carmel

Barry Take heart, I believe Ah is in fact a title such as Mr. so many Chinese who were known as Ah were in fact Mr. or such. I am in the middle of a cemetery project where there were a lot of Chinese so we are doing two entries for each as often there surname would be used first etc. very confusing but we hope we are covering the problem. Carmel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Wednesday, 9 July, 2008 9:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue Hi Anne, Your Cd may be ok after all. It appears the Wangaratta Cemetery Burial Register has my G/grandfather's name the wrong way around. I had another look at my printed copy of Ah Cue's entry in the register and it seems they have used the name Ah as his surname and Cue as his christian name. I had not noticed this before. So this may account for the anomally on the Cd. His grave location is - Section, C of E, No.1 - Plot, 678C. Buried 8 January 1902. Ah Cue's eldest daughter Ethel Maude is buried there also, but she is under her married name - Delloro. Regards, Barry Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Hi Barry, > > I find this most curious as I checked both the burial register and the > Memorials Index on the Wangaratta Cemetery CD and could find no mention of > Cue. I'm not saying your great grandfather is not buried at Wang - seems > to > me there's a problem with the info on the cd. > > Cheers > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 7:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the > Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather > Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. > > It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and > died > > there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta > in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but > that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it > all the more difficult to find him. > > Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. > > Regards, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > >> Hi Barry >> >> Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but >> there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. >> >> If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back >> to >> China? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Anne Hanson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard >> Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found >> any >> connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. >> >> William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index >> has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a >> Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in >> Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. >> >> Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my >> grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was >> split >> up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each >> other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find >> the >> final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one >> that >> I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also >> remains a mystery.. >> >> Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Barry Howard. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Hi Barry >> >> I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my >> own >> family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November >> 1890 >> at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the >> Vic. >> Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee >> DONCASTER). >> >> See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an >> e-mail >> to Melbourne General Cemetery. 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Hi Anne, Your Cd may be ok after all. It appears the Wangaratta Cemetery Burial Register has my G/grandfather's name the wrong way around. I had another look at my printed copy of Ah Cue's entry in the register and it seems they have used the name Ah as his surname and Cue as his christian name. I had not noticed this before. So this may account for the anomally on the Cd. His grave location is - Section, C of E, No.1 - Plot, 678C. Buried 8 January 1902. Ah Cue's eldest daughter Ethel Maude is buried there also, but she is under her married name - Delloro. Regards, Barry Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Hi Barry, > > I find this most curious as I checked both the burial register and the > Memorials Index on the Wangaratta Cemetery CD and could find no mention of > Cue. I'm not saying your great grandfather is not buried at Wang - seems > to > me there's a problem with the info on the cd. > > Cheers > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 7:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the > Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather > Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. > > It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and > died > > there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta > in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but > that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it > all the more difficult to find him. > > Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. > > Regards, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > >> Hi Barry >> >> Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but >> there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. >> >> If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back >> to >> China? >> >> Kind regards >> >> Anne Hanson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard >> Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found >> any >> connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. >> >> William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index >> has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a >> Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in >> Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. >> >> Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my >> grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was >> split >> up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each >> other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find >> the >> final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one >> that >> I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also >> remains a mystery.. >> >> Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Barry Howard. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> >> >> Hi Barry >> >> I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my >> own >> family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November >> 1890 >> at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the >> Vic. >> Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee >> DONCASTER). >> >> See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an >> e-mail >> to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: >> >> [email protected] >> >> Cheers >> >> Anne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 >> 10:15 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 >> 5:26 AM >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected].com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 7:50 PM > >

Hi Barry, I find this most curious as I checked both the burial register and the Memorials Index on the Wangaratta Cemetery CD and could find no mention of Cue. I'm not saying your great grandfather is not buried at Wang - seems to me there's a problem with the info on the cd. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2008 7:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue Hello Anne, Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and died there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it all the more difficult to find him. Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Hi Barry > > Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but > there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. > > If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back > to > China? > > Kind regards > > Anne Hanson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > > I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found any > connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. > > William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index > has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a > Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in > Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. > > Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my > grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was split > up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each > other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find > the > final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one > that > I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also > remains a mystery.. > > Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. > > Regards, > Barry Howard. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > > > Hi Barry > > I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my own > family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November > 1890 > at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the Vic. > Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee DONCASTER). > > See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an > e-mail > to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: > > [email protected] > > Cheers > > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 > 10:15 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM

Hello and Thanks to everyone that has replied. That is correct and I have the Tyshing (Tye Shing) side covered, its the mother and her line (de) Peorrei that I am having difficulties with locating how they arrived in Aus or where they came from. Thanks for all the information, will keep chipping away at it. Regards Laine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Blackman" <[email protected]> To: "Raymond W. Henderson" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Burial information > Hi Ray & Laine, > > The Tyshing name is interesting. :) > > Looking at the BDM's last night, it appears the name was originally > 'Tye Shing', the Grandfather being 'Lew Tye Shing'. :) > > Chinese may be? > > Kind regards, > Sherrie. > > > > On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:55:40 +1000, Raymond W. Henderson > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That should have been TYSHING sorry listers. Also so later to be change >> and >> used at TOYSHING as well >> >> >> Ray, >> snip > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ray & Laine, The Tyshing name is interesting. :) Looking at the BDM's last night, it appears the name was originally 'Tye Shing', the Grandfather being 'Lew Tye Shing'. :) Chinese may be? Kind regards, Sherrie. On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:55:40 +1000, Raymond W. Henderson <[email protected]> wrote: > That should have been TYSHING sorry listers. Also so later to be change > and > used at TOYSHING as well > > > Ray, > snip

That should have been TYSHING sorry listers. Also so later to be change and used at TOYSHING as well Ray, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond W. Henderson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Burial information > DISHING > Is also a very well known and early name around Bendigo gold fields they > owned for many year a cafe' in Mitchell street Bendigo. > > Regards, > Raymond. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherrie Blackman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Burial information > > >> Hi Laine, >> >> Who were the witnesses at the wedding? >> >> Jeanne Dorothy TYSHING - d.1983 rego.02268 >> Parents: Thomas PEORREI & Rennemati (sic) >> >> from.... >> http://www.scotch.vic.edu.au/Gscot/06aprgs/46obit.htm >> >> Gordon Lew Tyshing (’35) was born at Moonee Ponds on 4 October 1919, and >> attended Scotch from 1933–35. >> He married Jean Dorothy Peorrei in Victoria in 1942. Gordon was the last >> of three brothers who attended Scotch, >> the others being Eric (1929–31; died 3 September 1964) and Donald >> (1930–34; died 11 August 1995). >> Gordon lived at Essendon, and died on 16 August 2005. >> >> I cannot find the PEORREI parents in Victoria under any variation. Nor >> Renne's death to 1985. >> >> No entries on the Vic shipping list until 1923. >> >> Though Jeanne may have arrived by herself & shortly before her marriage >> in >> 1942. >> >> Could not find any variation of the Poerrei family at Springvale & St >> Kilda cemeteries... >> http://www.necropolis.net.au/necropolis/ >> >> nor any headstones listed on the Melbourne General Cemetery CD. >> >> >> There are only 16 Tyshing families in Victoria... >> http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.do >> >> Perhaps a few phone calls and you may find some descendants who could >> shed >> some light. :) >> >> >> The Tyshing family (including Jeanne) are buried at Fawkner cemetery... >> >> Surname Given Names Date Of Death Service Date >> TYSHING Donald Lew 11/08/1995 16/08/1995 >> TYSHING Eric Lew - 7/09/1964 >> TYSHING Gordon Lew 16/08/2005 6/09/2005 >> TYSHING Jeanne Dorothy - 27/01/1983 >> TYSHING Lionel Robert 27/05/2007 1/06/2007 >> TYSHING Robert Lew 27/12/1984 3/01/1985 >> >> So Jean was 62 when she died, so birthdate around 1921. :) >> >> You could contact the National Archives - [email protected] >> http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx >> >> and see if they have Jeanne Peorrei's immigration papers. >> >> I could not find any documents online, but not everything is on-line. >> >> Are you aware of any other variations of PEORREI or of it's origin? >> >> Perhaps French Polynesian? >> >> Kind regards, >> Sherrie. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:57:00 +1000, Laine Clancy <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Could SKS look up the surnames Peorrei or de Peorrei on the burial CD's >>> for Melbourne or suggest where I can do an online search. I havent done >>> any research in Victoria before so I am not aware of available >>> resources. >>> >>> I have a Jean Dorothy (de) Peorrei marrying in 1942, her father Thomas >>> (de) Peorrie was dead at the time of her marriage. Jean's mothers first >>> name was Renee (Renne). >>> >>> The family was living in Yarraville, Melbourne at the time of Jean's >>> marriage. >>> >>> I am not having much luck in finding any records of births and marriages >>> for this family and I thought maybe I could work backwards. >>> >>> The name seems unusual and hoping that a grave will give me some leads. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Laine Clancy >>> - >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

DISHING Is also a very well known and early name around Bendigo gold fields they owned for many year a cafe' in Mitchell street Bendigo. Regards, Raymond. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherrie Blackman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Burial information > Hi Laine, > > Who were the witnesses at the wedding? > > Jeanne Dorothy TYSHING - d.1983 rego.02268 > Parents: Thomas PEORREI & Rennemati (sic) > > from.... > http://www.scotch.vic.edu.au/Gscot/06aprgs/46obit.htm > > Gordon Lew Tyshing (’35) was born at Moonee Ponds on 4 October 1919, and > attended Scotch from 1933–35. > He married Jean Dorothy Peorrei in Victoria in 1942. Gordon was the last > of three brothers who attended Scotch, > the others being Eric (1929–31; died 3 September 1964) and Donald > (1930–34; died 11 August 1995). > Gordon lived at Essendon, and died on 16 August 2005. > > I cannot find the PEORREI parents in Victoria under any variation. Nor > Renne's death to 1985. > > No entries on the Vic shipping list until 1923. > > Though Jeanne may have arrived by herself & shortly before her marriage in > 1942. > > Could not find any variation of the Poerrei family at Springvale & St > Kilda cemeteries... > http://www.necropolis.net.au/necropolis/ > > nor any headstones listed on the Melbourne General Cemetery CD. > > > There are only 16 Tyshing families in Victoria... > http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.do > > Perhaps a few phone calls and you may find some descendants who could shed > some light. :) > > > The Tyshing family (including Jeanne) are buried at Fawkner cemetery... > > Surname Given Names Date Of Death Service Date > TYSHING Donald Lew 11/08/1995 16/08/1995 > TYSHING Eric Lew - 7/09/1964 > TYSHING Gordon Lew 16/08/2005 6/09/2005 > TYSHING Jeanne Dorothy - 27/01/1983 > TYSHING Lionel Robert 27/05/2007 1/06/2007 > TYSHING Robert Lew 27/12/1984 3/01/1985 > > So Jean was 62 when she died, so birthdate around 1921. :) > > You could contact the National Archives - [email protected] > http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx > > and see if they have Jeanne Peorrei's immigration papers. > > I could not find any documents online, but not everything is on-line. > > Are you aware of any other variations of PEORREI or of it's origin? > > Perhaps French Polynesian? > > Kind regards, > Sherrie. > > > > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:57:00 +1000, Laine Clancy <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Could SKS look up the surnames Peorrei or de Peorrei on the burial CD's >> for Melbourne or suggest where I can do an online search. I havent done >> any research in Victoria before so I am not aware of available >> resources. >> >> I have a Jean Dorothy (de) Peorrei marrying in 1942, her father Thomas >> (de) Peorrie was dead at the time of her marriage. Jean's mothers first >> name was Renee (Renne). >> >> The family was living in Yarraville, Melbourne at the time of Jean's >> marriage. >> >> I am not having much luck in finding any records of births and marriages >> for this family and I thought maybe I could work backwards. >> >> The name seems unusual and hoping that a grave will give me some leads. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Laine Clancy >> - > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Laine, Who were the witnesses at the wedding? Jeanne Dorothy TYSHING - d.1983 rego.02268 Parents: Thomas PEORREI & Rennemati (sic) from.... http://www.scotch.vic.edu.au/Gscot/06aprgs/46obit.htm Gordon Lew Tyshing (’35) was born at Moonee Ponds on 4 October 1919, and attended Scotch from 1933–35. He married Jean Dorothy Peorrei in Victoria in 1942. Gordon was the last of three brothers who attended Scotch, the others being Eric (1929–31; died 3 September 1964) and Donald (1930–34; died 11 August 1995). Gordon lived at Essendon, and died on 16 August 2005. I cannot find the PEORREI parents in Victoria under any variation. Nor Renne's death to 1985. No entries on the Vic shipping list until 1923. Though Jeanne may have arrived by herself & shortly before her marriage in 1942. Could not find any variation of the Poerrei family at Springvale & St Kilda cemeteries... http://www.necropolis.net.au/necropolis/ nor any headstones listed on the Melbourne General Cemetery CD. There are only 16 Tyshing families in Victoria... http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/resSearch.do Perhaps a few phone calls and you may find some descendants who could shed some light. :) The Tyshing family (including Jeanne) are buried at Fawkner cemetery... Surname Given Names Date Of Death Service Date TYSHING Donald Lew 11/08/1995 16/08/1995 TYSHING Eric Lew - 7/09/1964 TYSHING Gordon Lew 16/08/2005 6/09/2005 TYSHING Jeanne Dorothy - 27/01/1983 TYSHING Lionel Robert 27/05/2007 1/06/2007 TYSHING Robert Lew 27/12/1984 3/01/1985 So Jean was 62 when she died, so birthdate around 1921. :) You could contact the National Archives - [email protected] http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx and see if they have Jeanne Peorrei's immigration papers. I could not find any documents online, but not everything is on-line. Are you aware of any other variations of PEORREI or of it's origin? Perhaps French Polynesian? Kind regards, Sherrie. On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:57:00 +1000, Laine Clancy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > > Could SKS look up the surnames Peorrei or de Peorrei on the burial CD's > for Melbourne or suggest where I can do an online search. I havent done > any research in Victoria before so I am not aware of available > resources. > > I have a Jean Dorothy (de) Peorrei marrying in 1942, her father Thomas > (de) Peorrie was dead at the time of her marriage. Jean's mothers first > name was Renee (Renne). > > The family was living in Yarraville, Melbourne at the time of Jean's > marriage. > > I am not having much luck in finding any records of births and marriages > for this family and I thought maybe I could work backwards. > > The name seems unusual and hoping that a grave will give me some leads. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Laine Clancy > -

Hi Could SKS look up the surnames Peorrei or de Peorrei on the burial CD's for Melbourne or suggest where I can do an online search. I havent done any research in Victoria before so I am not aware of available resources. I have a Jean Dorothy (de) Peorrei marrying in 1942, her father Thomas (de) Peorrie was dead at the time of her marriage. Jean's mothers first name was Renee (Renne). The family was living in Yarraville, Melbourne at the time of Jean's marriage. I am not having much luck in finding any records of births and marriages for this family and I thought maybe I could work backwards. The name seems unusual and hoping that a grave will give me some leads. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Laine Clancy

Hello Anne, Thanks for that info, but I am surprised there is no record of Cue on the Wang. Cemetry cd. because I have visited the grave of my great grandfather Ah CUE who is definitely buried there. It is possible that his son Henry Cue went to China (or interstate) and died there, but he was not full blooded Chinese, having been born in Wangaratta in 1889. I know he was alive in 1926 at the time of his mother's death but that is the last record of him. I believe he never married which makes it all the more difficult to find him. Thanks again Anne, I will bear your suggestion in mind. Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > Hi Barry > > Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but > there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. > > If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back > to > China? > > Kind regards > > Anne Hanson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard > Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue > > Hello Anne, > > I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found any > connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. > > William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index > has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a > Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in > Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. > > Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my > grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was split > up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each > other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find > the > final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one > that > I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also > remains a mystery.. > > Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. > > Regards, > Barry Howard. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > > > Hi Barry > > I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my own > family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November > 1890 > at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the Vic. > Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee DONCASTER). > > See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an > e-mail > to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: > > [email protected] > > Cheers > > Anne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 > 10:15 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > > >

Hi Barry Just out of interest I did have a look at the Wangaratta Cemetery CD but there was no one with the family name CUE buried there. If you've been unable to find Henry's death - is it possible he went back to China? Kind regards Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Cue Hello Anne, I have been researching my CUE family for some time and have not found any connection with your Samuel Cue, or Castlemaine either for that matter. William was indeed the son of Sarah Hannah Doncaster, but the Death Index has his father's name wrong, it was not John. William Cue's father was a Chinese market gardener, originally from Canton China, but settled in Wangaratta. His name was Ah Cue and he married Sarah in 1869. Ah Cue was my maternal great grandfather.They had eight children, my grandmother being the 7th. After Ah Cue died in 1902 the family was split up and some of the children were adopted out and lost contact with each other. They have all past on now of course, but it is my desire to find the final resting place of all my grandmother's siblings. William's is one that I don't have and also that of his brother Henry who's death year also remains a mystery.. Thankyou for your interest in my query, much appreciated. Regards, Barry Howard. ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- Hi Barry I am intrigued by the name CUE because it is a name that appears in my own family history. Am wondering if you have a Samuel CUE born 25 November 1890 at Castlemaine - Father Samuel, Mother, Anne Batty. It looks from the Vic. Death Index that your William's parents were John & Sarah (nee DONCASTER). See that you've tried Fawkner, Springvale & St. Kilda why not send an e-mail to Melbourne General Cemetery. Their e-mail address is: [email protected] Cheers Anne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1536 - Release Date: 7/5/2008 10:15 AM

Thankyou Ada,what wonderful info. I think he might have been born out of this country. Friends of ours didn't name their child for over 3 months. They just called her Poo Bear. I really must ask my aunt. Cheers Chris > Hello listers, > > Problem was, if you missed one child, that carried a fine... if you > missed 2, a second fine... if you left off the child/chn not registered > when you registered later chn, that was perjury. The fine was ten pounds > per non-registration, perjury brought a jail term. > > They initially 1853-1864 had 15 days to register. Owners of houses in > which a birth took place had 15 days to inform the deputy registrar of > the district fine ten pounds if found to have neglected to do so., and > if the parent had a good reason (wife and child gravely ill, etc) then > an application had to be accompanied by a solemn declaration. Any > attempt after 60 days, without the declaration, a further fine of five > pounds, and if an attempt to register after 12 months, another five > pounds fine. > > And the law stated "After 60 days it shall not be lawful for the Deputy > Registrar or the Chief Registrar to register the birth." Did this mean > that, even though you paid the fines, if more than 60 days had passed, > you paid, but still the child was not registered? > > I reckon lots of tardy parents registered their young children out of > their district and claimed "recently born" though possibly 6-12 months > old... I reckon you could do that if the child was "not present" as it > says on the certificate if only the parent fronts up to register. > > And then, according to cases in the Supreme Court after 1899, when a > child could gain "late registration with a baptismal certificate or a > stat dec from a nurse, doctor, etc" many a child was not registered > because the parents wanted to evade compulsory vaccination (from 1855) > for smallpox. > > After June 1865 the time to register was extended to 60 days, and a > declaration up to 12 months, but still with the same fines. Then in 1890 > late registration after 12 months but within seven years was allowed.. > until the above 1899 Act which gave no time frame, but insisted on a > court appearance.. either the County or the Supreme Court. > > I wrote a long article "Unregistered Births in Victoria" for the AIGS > magazine "The Genealogist" in December 1988, it is worth reading, based > on law and applications to the Supreme court 1899-1922. > > Late registrations showed were filed in the birth year, at the ends of > the lists, and carried an "X" and then the year the late registration > was granted, so "24689X1918" would have been normalized retrospectively > in 1918 after the court application and approval. > > Hope that's of interest > > Regards Ada Ackerly > > Julie N wrote: >> Hi Chris >> I have found in my family 3 children out of 8 are not on the Pioneer >> Index. >> 4 out of 8 children on another family,its not until you look on the death >> cd is when they turn up. >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message