Long Gully is a suburb of Bendigo just in case that hasn't been worked out yet...and very much an old mining area of the past.Pauline.

Hi listers. The Genealogical Society of Victoria has a free search feature on their website and on it I found several references to a record of two of my ancestors. The "type of records" were "Criminal Record" and "Gazetted". To find what information they contain, it seems, I would have to pay a joining fee of $15.00 and an annual subscription of $69.00 and then go to their rooms in Melbourne to view the records. As I cannot afford these fees and I live about 200 kms from Melbourne, I am wondering if there is some other means of accessing these particular records? The search results as given on the GSV website are as follows - AH CUE, Victoria Criminal records 1850-1900 Born: 1837 AH CUE, SARAH. Victoria Criminal records 1855-1918 CUE, Ah. Wangaratta Gazetted 20/06/1879 I believe these to be of my gggrandfather Ah CUE, a market gardener of Wangaratta, and his wife Sarah Hannah (Doncaster) CUE. Does anybody have any advice on this subject, that might assist me please? Thanks, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia.

Thank you Barry. Marianne On 01/10/2008, at 9:11 PM, B.Howard wrote: > Hi Marrianne, > > Here you go - > > Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 > > > Query > ----- > Surname : hill (3511 matches) > Given Names : mary (85049 matches) > Father : white (3186 matches) > > Total matching records: 2 > -------------------- > > Surname: HILL > Given Names: Mary > Father: White Richd > Mother: Zipporah Rodda WHITE > Death Place: ARM > Age: 76 > Age Code: > Year: 1931 > Reg Number: 3550 > Event: D > > > Cheers, > Barry Howard, > Victoria, Australia. > > >

Hi Maria, think Julie has found him, the 1923 one seems to be the son. Thanks anyway all help appreciated. Marianne On 01/10/2008, at 9:41 PM, Maria Celano wrote: > There is a Richard Hill at the Coburg cemetery [http:// > www.fcmp.com.au] - > however that is too far from Armadale.. also he died in 1920 - aged > 41. > > this is no help... sorry > Maria >

Hello Barry, I have had a look at the GSV website, but cannot see how to get any free search facility. Would you be kind enough to explain the way to search a name free? Do I have to buy membership? Thank you kindly. Trevor Worth, #545 WAGS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.Howard Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 9:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] criminal records and the GSV Hi listers. The Genealogical Society of Victoria has a free search feature on their website and on it I found several references to a record of two of my ancestors. The "type of records" were "Criminal Record" and "Gazetted". To find what information they contain, it seems, I would have to pay a joining fee of $15.00 and an annual subscription of $69.00 and then go to their rooms in Melbourne to view the records. As I cannot afford these fees and I live about 200 kms from Melbourne, I am wondering if there is some other means of accessing these particular records? The search results as given on the GSV website are as follows - AH CUE, Victoria Criminal records 1850-1900 Born: 1837 AH CUE, SARAH. Victoria Criminal records 1855-1918 CUE, Ah. Wangaratta Gazetted 20/06/1879 I believe these to be of my gggrandfather Ah CUE, a market gardener of Wangaratta, and his wife Sarah Hannah (Doncaster) CUE. Does anybody have any advice on this subject, that might assist me please? Thanks, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 30/09/2008 7:08 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 30/09/2008 7:08 PM

There is a Richard Hill at the Coburg cemetery [http://www.fcmp.com.au] - however that is too far from Armadale.. also he died in 1920 - aged 41. this is no help... sorry Maria On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Petal & Clea Smith <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Maria, > > I think Richard Hill Died in 1923, no other details known. > > Marianne > Also Melbourne > > > On 01/10/2008, at 3:36 PM, Maria Celano wrote: > > > Do you know the year that Richard Hill died? > > > > cheers > > Maria > > Melbourne, Victoria > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Petal & Clea Smith > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Hello list > >> > >> Hoping to confirm death details for Mary Hill (nee White) > >> who died 1931. At Armadale. Melbourne. > >> > >> Mary was born St Just Cornwall. > >> > >> Husband's name Richard Hill > >> > >> Father Richard White > >> Mother Zipporah > >> > >> Would appreciate any help. > >> > >> Marianne > >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Marrianne, Here you go - Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Query ----- Surname : hill (3511 matches) Given Names : mary (85049 matches) Father : white (3186 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: HILL Given Names: Mary Father: White Richd Mother: Zipporah Rodda WHITE Death Place: ARM Age: 76 Age Code: Year: 1931 Reg Number: 3550 Event: D Cheers, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petal & Clea Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Death Lookup Mary Hill > Hello list > > Hoping to confirm death details for Mary Hill (nee White) > who died 1931. At Armadale. Melbourne. > > Mary was born St Just Cornwall. > > Husband's name Richard Hill > > Father Richard White > Mother Zipporah > > Would appreciate any help. > > Marianne > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM

In 1914, she's at Kooyong, sub-district Glenferrie - 140 Burwood Rd Hawthorn, hd There are Florence Jane Burns, also hd and Thomas Edward Burns, a contractor at the same address. That's the only time a person with that full name appears on the electoral rolls. There's a Margaret Annie Burns in Camberwell in 1903 and a number of Annie Burns, Annie May Burns or Catherine Burns around Kooyong. In 1919 there's a ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE CURLEY at the same address together with a Martin Curley, who's listed as a sawyer. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Borlands [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 1:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Look Ups, Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 -1936 Hello Folks, Can someone kindly do a couple of look ups on the Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 - 1936 on Ancestry.com please? Looking for: ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE BURNS, Victoria, Kooyong DIstrict. Prior to 1916. There maybe a spouse, JOHN BURNS. and ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE CURLEY, Victoria, Kooyong District, between 1916 - 1922. Plus anyone else with her. Most grateful for assistance with the above, and thank you. Regards, Marina New Zealand

Hello Ada, No, not one of mine. Thanks all the same. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Look Ups, Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 -1936 > > > Borlands wrote: >> Hello Folks, > > Hello Marina, > > There is a non-issued administration for a Mathew M CURLEY, farmer, who > died at Yuroke 17 May 1926. Unusual surname... related? > > Regards Ada > >> ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE CURLEY, Victoria, Kooyong District, between >> 1916 - 1922. Plus anyone else with her. > >> Marina >> New Zealand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks Anne. Every bit helps. Cheers, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Look Ups, Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 -1936 > Annie Margaret Catherine Burns - 1914 Div. Of Kooyong, Sub Div. Of > Glenferrie > Annie Margaret Catherine Burns, 140 Burwood Road, Hawthorn, home duties. > Also at this address Florence Jane Burns - home duties and Thomas Edward > Burns, contractor. > > 1919 Div. Of Kooyong, Sub Div. Of Glenferrie - 2 entries: > Annie Margaret Catherine Curley, 140 Burwood Road, Glenferrie, home > duties. > Martin Curley, 140 Burwood Road, Hawthorn, occupation - sawyer. > > Must go eat. > > Cheers > > Anne H. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Borlands > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 1:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Look Ups, Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 -1936 > > Hello Folks, > > Can someone kindly do a couple of look ups on the Australian Electoral > Rolls > 1901 - 1936 on Ancestry.com please? > > Looking for: > ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE BURNS, Victoria, Kooyong DIstrict. Prior to 1916. > There maybe a spouse, JOHN BURNS. > > and > ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE CURLEY, Victoria, Kooyong District, between > 1916 - > 1922. Plus anyone else with her. > > Most grateful for assistance with the above, and thank you. > > Regards, > > Marina > New Zealand > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 > 7:08 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Also found a sister to Richard for you Just in case. If you need any more look up just ask,be happy to help Julie N Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 -------------------- Surname: PEARCEGiven Names: EllenFather: Hill ThosMother: Ctina MATTHEWSDeath Place: BGOAge: 92Age Code: Year: 1936Reg Number: 14983Event: D > > Hi This could be him going by his daughters death place and the 2 > > others that died in long GullyJulie N> > --------------------.> > Surname: HILL.> > Given Names: Richd> > Event: D> > Sex:> > Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Thos> > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ctina MATTHEWS> > Age: 44> > Age Code:> > Birth Place:> > Death Place: Long Gully> > Year: 1896> > Reg. Number: 14019> > --------------------> >> > Surname: HILL> > Given Names: Mary White> > Event: D> > Sex:> > Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Richd> > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary WHITE> > Age: 14> > Age Code:> > Birth Place:> > Death Place: Long Gully> > Year: 1896> > Reg. Number: 10284> >> >> >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

I think you are right Julie. Thank you so much that's the whole family. Wonderful help. Marianne On 01/10/2008, at 4:23 PM, Julie N wrote: > > Hi This could be him going by his daughters death place and the 2 > others that died in long GullyJulie N > --------------------. > Surname: HILL. > Given Names: Richd > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Thos > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ctina MATTHEWS > Age: 44 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Long Gully > Year: 1896 > Reg. Number: 14019 > -------------------- > > Surname: HILL > Given Names: Mary White > Event: D > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Richd > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary WHITE > Age: 14 > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: Long Gully > Year: 1896 > Reg. Number: 10284 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Well thanks again for being so helpful. I had 4 Children. Didn't know Richard was born in England. Marianne On 01/10/2008, at 4:15 PM, Julie N wrote: > > Hi Marianne > Heres the marriage,if you get the cert it will/shoul give parents > name for him & his age,then we maybe able to find his death for you. > did they only have the 4 children? > Cheers Julie----------------------Surname: HILL > Given Names: Richard > Event: Married > Spouse Surname/Father: WHITE > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary > Age: > Sex: M > Birth Place: ENGLAND > Death Place: > Year: 1877 > Reg Number: 2955 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche:

Hello Folks, Can someone kindly do a couple of look ups on the Australian Electoral Rolls 1901 - 1936 on Ancestry.com please? Looking for: ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE BURNS, Victoria, Kooyong DIstrict. Prior to 1916. There maybe a spouse, JOHN BURNS. and ANNIE MARGARET CATHERINE CURLEY, Victoria, Kooyong District, between 1916 - 1922. Plus anyone else with her. Most grateful for assistance with the above, and thank you. Regards, Marina New Zealand

Hi This could be him going by his daughters death place and the 2 others that died in long GullyJulie N --------------------. Surname: HILL. Given Names: Richd Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Thos Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ctina MATTHEWS Age: 44 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Long Gully Year: 1896 Reg. Number: 14019 -------------------- Surname: HILL Given Names: Mary White Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Hill Richd Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary WHITE Age: 14 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Long Gully Year: 1896 Reg. Number: 10284 _________________________________________________________________

Hi Marianne Heres the marriage,if you get the cert it will/shoul give parents name for him & his age,then we maybe able to find his death for you. did they only have the 4 children? Cheers Julie----------------------Surname: HILL Given Names: Richard Event: Married Spouse Surname/Father: WHITE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary Age: Sex: M Birth Place: ENGLAND Death Place: Year: 1877 Reg Number: 2955 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:08:06 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Death Lookup Mary Hill> > You are right Julie, I don't really know any details on Mary's husband> Richard.> > Marianne> > On 01/10/2008, at 3:59 PM, Julie N wrote:> > >> > Hi Ladys> > That one in 1923 looks to be the son of Richard & Mary> > Julie N--------------------> > Surname: HILL> > Given Names: Richard> > Father: Hill> > Mother: Mary WHITE> > Death Place: L GULLY> > Age: 43> > Age Code:> > Year: 1923> > Reg Number: 6434> > Event: D> >> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> > >> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:51:56 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] > >> Death Lookup Mary Hill> > Hi Maria,> > I think Richard Hill Died in > >> 1923, no other details known.> > Marianne> > _________________________________________________________________> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

You are right Julie, I don't really know any details on Mary's husband Richard. Marianne On 01/10/2008, at 3:59 PM, Julie N wrote: > > Hi Ladys > That one in 1923 looks to be the son of Richard & Mary > Julie N-------------------- > Surname: HILL > Given Names: Richard > Father: Hill > Mother: Mary WHITE > Death Place: L GULLY > Age: 43 > Age Code: > Year: 1923 > Reg Number: 6434 > Event: D >> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:51:56 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] >> Death Lookup Mary Hill> > Hi Maria,> > I think Richard Hill Died in >> 1923, no other details known.> > Marianne > _________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

This is also interesting because when I first read the posting I thought about St Just Point at Bendigo where many of the early Cornish miners settled hence the name St Just Point. Regards, Raymond. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie N" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Death Lookup Mary Hill > > Hi Ladys > That one in 1923 looks to be the son of Richard & Mary > Julie N-------------------- > Surname: HILL > Given Names: Richard > Father: Hill > Mother: Mary WHITE > Death Place: L GULLY > Age: 43 > Age Code: > Year: 1923 > Reg Number: 6434 > Event: D >> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, >> 1 Oct 2008 15:51:56 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Death Lookup Mary >> Hill> > Hi Maria,> > I think Richard Hill Died in 1923, no other details >> known.> > Marianne > _________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1701 - Release Date: 9/30/2008 7:08 PM

Hello Alan, I had a search on behalf of a family many years ago, where in the late 1850s the mother was always the informant on birth certificates until she became ill when they moved to the country, and the fourth child was born and died, and the father took over as informant. She had always listed him as "William from Edinburgh" He gave himself "Wilhelm from Nova Scotia" which opened up a new successful avenue of research for the lass who had claimed a "brick wall". Though at first she was sceptical, because the parents moved back to the city a few years later and the mother again took the role of informant, with her "William from Edinburgh" for their sixth child and he went back to his previous trade after a stint as "a farmer". The Victorian stipulation that "Previous issue both alive and dead" should be entered on the certificates clinched the authenticity of my contention to them, and the Nova Scotia link was explored by them. So, sometimes, it's worth spending the money!! Regards Ada margaret trewick wrote: > Alan > I checked all I had and found nothing for you either. However, I believe > getting the birth cert for the LAST child might be better, as they may not > be "hiding" details by then. > > Good luck > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Ladys That one in 1923 looks to be the son of Richard & Mary Julie N-------------------- Surname: HILL Given Names: Richard Father: Hill Mother: Mary WHITE Death Place: L GULLY Age: 43 Age Code: Year: 1923 Reg Number: 6434 Event: D > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:51:56 +1000> Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Death Lookup Mary Hill> > Hi Maria,> > I think Richard Hill Died in 1923, no other details known.> > Marianne _________________________________________________________________