Good Morning, would anyone down there in Victoria be kind enough to scan last Tuesday and Wednesday's 21-22 Oct Death, Memorial and Funeral notices etc. for Jeffrey Paterson and email them to me off list at [email protected] It is a bit difficult to get the papers up here in country Qld. I would be extremely grateful Regards Col

Ian, <laughing>. Nevermind Ian, it's late, I didn't even realize till you said it. We'll all forgive you!! <grin> Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus > Ian Nicholls <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry Listers, > My mathematics have deserted me this evening. > The 10 year rule starts in 1998 and 1986 is of course 22 years ago. So > the on-line Index[1985] is 13 years behind the 10 year rule. > Best regards......Ian. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message .

Sorry Listers, My mathematics have deserted me this evening. The 10 year rule starts in 1998 and 1986 is of course 22 years ago. So the on-line Index[1985] is 13 years behind the 10 year rule. Best regards......Ian.

Hi Listers, Thanks to all those who have supplied info. If the death certificate falls into this "black hole" between 1985 and 1988[start of the 10 year rule] I may not be able to get the certificate under the 10 year rule, if the rule is in fact applied from 1985 to 2008. Do Listers think the current problem is the Index has not been updated from 1985 to 1988, and if I apply I will not be caught up in the 10 year rule? Part of my confusion is when I looked at the on-line site to buy a certificate dated before the 10 year rule the application required the Index number, which I don't have. I don't mind paying for the certificate search, Index number search etc, I'm just worried that if I get caught up in the 10 year rule, even though it is 12 years, I maybe refused the certificate because I'm only a distant cousin of Geoffrey Nicholls. Does anyone know if you can actually get a death certificate under the 10 year rule if it is for family history use, and you are only a distant relation? Best regards.......Ian Nicholls.

Ian There is no way of getting the number unless you pay for a search at BDM, the indexes are not available publicly after 1985. Carmel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Nicholls Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 10:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Further to Vic Death Certificate query. Dear Listers, Thanks to those who have replied so far. If SKS can get the Index number for me I will try to buy the certificate on-line as a "death over 10 years ago". The way I read the on-line Index is, it stops in 1985. Is this incorrect, or am I reading it incorrectly? Geoffrey M. C. Nicholls was born at Lane Cove, Sydney in 1922. He married Jean Maud Woolcott at St. Augustine's church, Neutral Bay, Sydney 30Sept1944. They had two children, Judith and Margaret. Jean was alive when Geoffrey died in 1986 at Epworth Hospital, and their were two grandchildren, Tim and Heidi. Geoffrey was cremated and interned at The Necropolis, Springvale, Melbourne, on the 16July1986. Best regards..........Ian in Sydney. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, Thanks to those who have replied so far. If SKS can get the Index number for me I will try to buy the certificate on-line as a "death over 10 years ago". The way I read the on-line Index is, it stops in 1985. Is this incorrect, or am I reading it incorrectly? Geoffrey M. C. Nicholls was born at Lane Cove, Sydney in 1922. He married Jean Maud Woolcott at St. Augustine's church, Neutral Bay, Sydney 30Sept1944. They had two children, Judith and Margaret. Jean was alive when Geoffrey died in 1986 at Epworth Hospital, and their were two grandchildren, Tim and Heidi. Geoffrey was cremated and interned at The Necropolis, Springvale, Melbourne, on the 16July1986. Best regards..........Ian in Sydney.

This is not a death cert, but a bit more info: Cemetery Springvale Botanical Cemetery Given Names GEOFFREY MICHAEL C Surname NICHOLLS Date of Service 16/07/1986 Burial Type CREMATION Location Details Westringia - Tree Companion Garden 2 Position 6S <http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php?page=search&s_res=GO&cid=330&q=&f_title=&Given_Names=&Surname=&Date_of_Death=&DoB=&Location_Details_ex=Westringia%20-%20Tree%20Companion%20Garden%202%20Position%206S&hw_timeframe=&hw_num=10> Public Grave Y/N N Tenure Date 31/12/2011 http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php?page=search&s_res=GO&cid=0&Given_Names=Geoffrey&Surname=Nicholls&Surname_ex=&hw_num=100 Alan Ian Nicholls wrote: > Hi Listers, > Can someone please help me with the following query about the Victoria BDM on-line site. > I would like to purchase a death certificate for family history reasons for someone who died on the 12July1986. The BDM site seems to say death certificates are available[index as well] on-line up to 1985 but after that there is a long process involving privacy, which makes the process a lot more difficult. However, when you look at this process it seems to say it is only applicable to deaths in the last 10 years, i.e., after 1988. > Does anyone know the answer to this? Can I buy a 1986 certificate without going through the privacy procedure? I tried to contact the BDM site by email to sort this out but could not get through. > If anyone has the index for 1986 would they kindly look up the index number for the following; > > Geoffrey Michael Cleveland Nicholls > Died 12July1986, Epworth Hospital > Best regards.........Ian Nicholls in Sydney. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Ian Not able to find this record although there is an Geoffrey Allan Nicholls died the same year and is in the inquest data. I had a quick look at the bdm site, the indexes and certificates up until the end of 1986 are on line but you would have to apply for the death certificate and pay for the check, unless you have an exact date. The restrictions apply to deaths less than 10 yrs. I know the bdm office is very busy, they are in the building were I work and there is always a long queue. Carmel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Nicholls Sent: Thursday, 23 October, 2008 8:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Vic Death Certificate query? Hi Listers, Can someone please help me with the following query about the Victoria BDM on-line site. I would like to purchase a death certificate for family history reasons for someone who died on the 12July1986. The BDM site seems to say death certificates are available[index as well] on-line up to 1985 but after that there is a long process involving privacy, which makes the process a lot more difficult. However, when you look at this process it seems to say it is only applicable to deaths in the last 10 years, i.e., after 1988. Does anyone know the answer to this? Can I buy a 1986 certificate without going through the privacy procedure? I tried to contact the BDM site by email to sort this out but could not get through. If anyone has the index for 1986 would they kindly look up the index number for the following; Geoffrey Michael Cleveland Nicholls Died 12July1986, Epworth Hospital Best regards.........Ian Nicholls in Sydney. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Can someone please help me with the following query about the Victoria BDM on-line site. I would like to purchase a death certificate for family history reasons for someone who died on the 12July1986. The BDM site seems to say death certificates are available[index as well] on-line up to 1985 but after that there is a long process involving privacy, which makes the process a lot more difficult. However, when you look at this process it seems to say it is only applicable to deaths in the last 10 years, i.e., after 1988. Does anyone know the answer to this? Can I buy a 1986 certificate without going through the privacy procedure? I tried to contact the BDM site by email to sort this out but could not get through. If anyone has the index for 1986 would they kindly look up the index number for the following; Geoffrey Michael Cleveland Nicholls Died 12July1986, Epworth Hospital Best regards.........Ian Nicholls in Sydney.

Have you checked www.whitepages.com.au cheers Maria On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:22 PM, sandra <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone knew a Debra Colson whose father was Ernest > William Walton. They lived in the Preston area. Ernest died in 1992. > > I am trying to contact her re Walton family. > > Sandra > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Tom First did you locate Stanley James Paterson and Annie K Paterson on the Fawkner Cemetery website? www.fcmp.com.au Are you sure that he died in 1970? Fawkner Crematorium & Memorial Park wishes to advise that the location of the *cremated *remains of the late *James Ernest Paterson* who passed away on *Thursday, August 29, 2002*, aged *89* are located at *Coburg Cemetery CHURCH OF ENGLAND: Compartment: D Grave No: 1022*. ** Within this location you will find:- *Surname* *Given Names * *Service Date * PATERSON<http://www.fcmp.com.au/deceaseddetail.asp?ServiceID=43942&Cemetery=Coburg> Annie 24/03/1943 PATERSON<http://www.fcmp.com.au/deceaseddetail.asp?ServiceID=59396&Cemetery=Coburg> James Ernest 2/08/2004 PATERSON<http://www.fcmp.com.au/deceaseddetail.asp?ServiceID=31458&Cemetery=Coburg> James Hendrie 24/11/1924 PATERSON<http://www.fcmp.com.au/deceaseddetail.asp?ServiceID=59468&Cemetery=Coburg> Kate Lavinia 8/11/2006 PATERSON<http://www.fcmp.com.au/deceaseddetail.asp?ServiceID=15392&Cemetery=Coburg> Lila 11/07/1916 Tom Please be-aware that spelling mistakes do occur - especially as I discovered at the Fawkner Cemetery website. Paterson may also be incorrectly spelt as Patterson Tom if you can provide me with some more details on the person your looking for.. i will check at some resources that may be at my local library. Can you please supply me with details of his [Ernest] wife and the cemetery she is buried in? Please allow a couple of days for me to find out the information for you. *Email me direct with your information* * **[email protected]* <[email protected]> Also can you please *check **www.findagrave.com*<http://www.findagrave.com/> - I have recently added to this site - check for the surname Paterson [in Australia] .. you never know there may also be a relative there. sincerely Maria Melbourne, Australia 22.10.08 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Tom Perrett <[email protected]> wrote: > Already replied to Col off list > > Tom > > > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:37:20 +1000, Col Paterson wrote: > > >G'day list, I still have an ongoing mystery; I've sought assistance with > it > >in the past and received a lot of valuable help. This has all been > followed > >up & acted upon where possible but all to no avail. > >I have a cousin (son of my Grandfathers brother) named Ernest James > Paterson > >born 1920 in Shepparton Victoria to Stanley James Paterson and Annie > >Kathleen Carroll. > >Anecdotally he passed away about 1970 he was reputed to be well in the > grip > >of the grape. PROV doesn't seem to have a death registration for him and > >therefore no Death Certificate. > >Is there any reason why this should be, other than maybe he's still alive > >somewhere? > >He served in the AIF during WW11 also he is said to have been a musician > in > >a South Melb. Brass Band. He did marry and his wife is deceased there is a > >death Cert for her. I have looked for him at PROV Fawkner Cemetery, The > >Necropolis I've applied to the FOI site and as there was a story that he > had > >been murdered I checked with Vic Police Homicide and received a nice but > >negative reply from an Inspector there. > >Any ideas as to where else I can look. > >Col Paterson > >Going rusty on the soggy Gold Coast > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Cheers, > > Tom <[email protected]> Tom Perrett > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks everyone for all your replies. Lorna > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Perrett > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 4:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Coffee Palace > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:30:54 +1100, B & L Jones wrote: > > >On a 1918 wedding registration 'Coffee Palace Melbourne' was > given as the > >place of residence. Can anyone tell me where and what this > place was? > > Coffee Palaces were places for teetotallers to stay, the Melbourne > Coffee Palace was in Bourke Street, in the vicinity of Russell Street, > it was still extant in the 1940s but down market by then. > > > Cheers, > > Tom <[email protected]> Tom Perrett >

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:30:54 +1100, B & L Jones wrote: >On a 1918 wedding registration 'Coffee Palace Melbourne' was given as the >place of residence. Can anyone tell me where and what this place was? Coffee Palaces were places for teetotallers to stay, the Melbourne Coffee Palace was in Bourke Street, in the vicinity of Russell Street, it was still extant in the 1940s but down market by then. Cheers, Tom <[email protected]> Tom Perrett

try state Library of Victoria - ask the librarian cheers Maria On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:30 PM, B & L Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi List > > On a 1918 wedding registration 'Coffee Palace Melbourne' was given as the > place of residence. Can anyone tell me where and what this place was? > > Thank you > Lorna. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List On a 1918 wedding registration 'Coffee Palace Melbourne' was given as the place of residence. Can anyone tell me where and what this place was? Thank you Lorna.

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone knew a Debra Colson whose father was Ernest William Walton. They lived in the Preston area. Ernest died in 1992. I am trying to contact her re Walton family. Sandra

Hi All, I've been watching this thread, you might try looking in St Kilda Cemetery, Springvale or Melbourne General, is where I would be starting then I would be looking at Kew Cemetery. Just my thoughts on the subject. Cheers, Raymond. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie N" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Edwin Balfour MARPLE, wife Marion Joan nee LEWIS > > Hi Colleen > Heres the death of Marion, you can buy the death cert to get more > information if needed. > Surname: MARPLE. > Given Names: Marion Joan. > Father: Lewis Frank. > Mother: Isabell GORDON. > Death Place: ARMA. > Age: 54. > Age Code. > : Year: 1955. > Reg Number: 2438. > Event: D >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM

All Melbourne cemeteries that are on-line have been checked. Eric. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raymond W. Henderson Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 10:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Edwin Balfour MARPLE, wife Marion Joan nee LEWIS Hi All, I've been watching this thread, you might try looking in St Kilda Cemetery, Springvale or Melbourne General, is where I would be starting then I would be looking at Kew Cemetery. Just my thoughts on the subject. Cheers, Raymond.

Hi Colleen Heres the death of Marion, you can buy the death cert to get more information if needed. Surname: MARPLE. Given Names: Marion Joan. Father: Lewis Frank. Mother: Isabell GORDON. Death Place: ARMA. Age: 54. Age Code. : Year: 1955. Reg Number: 2438. Event: D > _________________________________________________________________