Tony, Thanks for all this. Some of it had had, some was based solely on online trees without verification. I will continue my research with the help of this that you posted. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 3:22 AM Tony O'Grady <tonyogrady26@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gail, > > I have had a look at the Victorian BDM records (available on-line) and > have found the following about the King children (although I have only > found nine of them - all born at Lake Bolac) > > Elsie May, 1892-1895 > > Daisey Issebell (Daisy Isabella) b. 1894. 1912 married William Smith. > > Lily (Lilian) Elizabeth. 1896-1948. 1914 married Walter Davis. She died > at Burnley (Melbourne) > > Pansy Ilene (Eileen) b.1898. 1917 married George Eric Humphry (Humphries) > > William Nicklos (Nicholas) b. 1900. 1921 married Vida Bianchi Burnett > who died at Heidelberg (Melb.) in 1970 > > Ronald Edward. 1902-1960. 1926 married Esther Amelia Mundy. Ronald died > at Kyabram. > > Francess (Francis) James b. 1905. 1924 married Christina Iris Bruce who > died at Mooroopna in 1939. She was born at nearby Ardmona. > > Rose Merin (Merron). b. 1905. 1927 married Herbert Joseph Allan Pryer. > > Seaford Louis (Lewis) 1911-1952 (died at Heidelberg). 1930 married Kath > Hesline > > > Kyabram, Mooroopna and Ardmona are all near Shepparton which is the centre > of Australia’s canned fruit (peaches, pears and apricots). Lake Bolac is in > the western district which was famous for its sheep industry. The big > landowners were mainly Scottish protestants and the Irish were the > labourers. > > Some of the marriages require further confirmation. > > I suggest that you consult the Australian electoral rolls ( available > on-line). They will give you details of all adults (those over 20 years > old) living in each household. They go up to 1980 and the voting age had > been reduced to 18 for the last few of those elections. > > You may also find more details in the Victorian BDM records. > > I hope that this helps. > > Tony O’Grady > Melbourne. > > > On 14 Oct 2019, at 7:54 pm, Lyn <lb352528@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > Hello Gail > > > > > > May I suggest you check out the groups on Facebook for Australia > genealogy as an addition to rootsweb sites. Lots of knowledgeable and > helpful people from all areas. > > > > Regards > > Lyn > > > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Frances Best > > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 6:08 PM > > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: New List member > > > > Hi Gail > > My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne > > I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up > in > > Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody > so > > would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your > > relatives > > > > If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is > > simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au > > Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM > > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member > > > > I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left > > County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This > > list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what > response I > > get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, > > Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson > > in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far > as > > I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. > > His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, > > Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas > > where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her > > sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish > > immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so > that > > perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to > > figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical > > resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than > what > > I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect > and > > I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know > > when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about > > his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his > > descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is > one > > thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of > his > > descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the > > challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a > newspaper > > resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now > and > > if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail > > Jorgensen > > > > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Lyn, Great idea. I will search on FB and see what I find. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:54 AM Lyn <lb352528@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hello Gail > > > May I suggest you check out the groups on Facebook for Australia genealogy > as an addition to rootsweb sites. Lots of knowledgeable and helpful people > from all areas. > > Regards > Lyn > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Frances Best > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 6:08 PM > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: New List member > > Hi Gail > My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne > I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up in > Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody so > would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your > relatives > > If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is > simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au > Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member > > I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left > County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This > list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I > get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, > Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson > in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as > I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. > His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, > Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas > where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her > sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish > immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that > perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to > figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical > resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what > I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and > I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know > when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about > his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his > descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one > thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his > descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the > challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper > resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and > if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail > Jorgensen > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello Fran, Thanks ever so much! Let me get things together and if I do have questions as you indicated, I will email you directly. Warmly, Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:08 AM Frances Best < simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Gail > My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne > I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up in > Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody so > would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your > relatives > > If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is > simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au > Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member > > I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left > County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This > list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I > get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, > Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson > in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as > I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. > His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, > Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas > where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her > sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish > immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that > perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to > figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical > resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what > I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and > I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know > when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about > his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his > descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one > thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his > descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the > challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper > resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and > if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail > Jorgensen > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Gail, I have had a look at the Victorian BDM records (available on-line) and have found the following about the King children (although I have only found nine of them - all born at Lake Bolac) Elsie May, 1892-1895 Daisey Issebell (Daisy Isabella) b. 1894. 1912 married William Smith. Lily (Lilian) Elizabeth. 1896-1948. 1914 married Walter Davis. She died at Burnley (Melbourne) Pansy Ilene (Eileen) b.1898. 1917 married George Eric Humphry (Humphries) William Nicklos (Nicholas) b. 1900. 1921 married Vida Bianchi Burnett who died at Heidelberg (Melb.) in 1970 Ronald Edward. 1902-1960. 1926 married Esther Amelia Mundy. Ronald died at Kyabram. Francess (Francis) James b. 1905. 1924 married Christina Iris Bruce who died at Mooroopna in 1939. She was born at nearby Ardmona. Rose Merin (Merron). b. 1905. 1927 married Herbert Joseph Allan Pryer. Seaford Louis (Lewis) 1911-1952 (died at Heidelberg). 1930 married Kath Hesline Kyabram, Mooroopna and Ardmona are all near Shepparton which is the centre of Australia’s canned fruit (peaches, pears and apricots). Lake Bolac is in the western district which was famous for its sheep industry. The big landowners were mainly Scottish protestants and the Irish were the labourers. Some of the marriages require further confirmation. I suggest that you consult the Australian electoral rolls ( available on-line). They will give you details of all adults (those over 20 years old) living in each household. They go up to 1980 and the voting age had been reduced to 18 for the last few of those elections. You may also find more details in the Victorian BDM records. I hope that this helps. Tony O’Grady Melbourne. > On 14 Oct 2019, at 7:54 pm, Lyn <lb352528@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hello Gail > > > May I suggest you check out the groups on Facebook for Australia genealogy as an addition to rootsweb sites. Lots of knowledgeable and helpful people from all areas. > > Regards > Lyn > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Frances Best > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 6:08 PM > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: New List member > > Hi Gail > My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne > I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up in > Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody so > would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your > relatives > > If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is > simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au > Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM > To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member > > I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left > County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This > list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I > get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, > Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson > in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as > I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. > His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, > Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas > where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her > sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish > immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that > perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to > figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical > resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what > I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and > I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know > when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about > his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his > descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one > thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his > descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the > challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper > resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and > if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail > Jorgensen > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello Gail May I suggest you check out the groups on Facebook for Australia genealogy as an addition to rootsweb sites. Lots of knowledgeable and helpful people from all areas. Regards Lyn Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Frances Best Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 6:08 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: New List member Hi Gail My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up in Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody so would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your relatives If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail Jorgensen ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Gail My name is Fran Best & I saw your posting in Aus Melbourne I don't think we are related but thought I would let you know I grew up in Lake Bolac Victoria Australia in the 50's where everyone knew everybody so would be happy to give you any information on that town & any of your relatives If you would like to contact me off sight my email address is simplythebest3@optusnet.com.au Cheers & good luck with your ancestors Fran Best -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen [mailto:gailjmom@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 2:10 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] New List member I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail Jorgensen ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I am a new list member from the USA. My great grandmother's brother left County Carlow ireland in the late 1880's and settled in Australia. This list may or may not be what I need to I joined a few to see what response I get. His name was Nicholas King, born 27 Jun 1865 in Borris, Co Carlow, Ireland. He arrived in May 1885 in Sydney and married Mary Jane Patterson in 1888 in Hawkesdale, Victoria, Australia. They had 11 children, as far as I can tell, the oldest being born in Port Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. His remaining children were born and grew up in Lake Bolac, Victoria, Australia. My goal is to learn about the Irish in Australia in the areas where he lived. My great grandmother left County Carlow and went with her sister to New York City so I am familiar with New York City and irish immigrants. His wife, Mary Jane Patterson I believe, was not irish so that perhaps he did not live with or around other Irish immigrants. I hope to figure that out. My goal is to try to navigate Australian genealogical resources and my first impression is that they are less abundant than what I am used to in US records. I am hoping that my impression is incorrect and I figure out how to find more records than I have found so far. I do know when and where Nicholas died. I even found, eventually the article about his sad passing. I hope to eventually find others researching he and his descendants. I was fortunate to find a few cousins through DNA. That is one thing that has sparked my renewed interest in building a better tree of his descendants. It is finding those born or living past 1920 where the challenge is. I will aso post this to Australian lists to find a newspaper resource similar to newspapers.com in the US. I will sign off for now and if you made it to the end of this, thanks for reading. Warmly, Gail Jorgensen ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~

Hi Michael I was hoping that I might be able to find something on Michael through Charlotte marriage but no luck. I do not know how much information you have on Michael. I found he was married to Johanna Fahey and had three 3 children in Victoria 1. William Hanson b 1866 in Armadale and died 1867 2. Charlotte Hanson 1867 Timor Vic & died 2 Nov 1945 Concord, Sydney, NSW married Charles Mathias/Matthews 1899 they had Ethel May Charlotte Mathias 1902-1991 and Charles Alexander Daniel Mathias 1911 St Leonards, Sydney. 3. Philip Henson 1870 Timor, Vic died 1947 Vic married to Mary Rosetta Manning in 1913 in Vic she was married to (Henry King 20 Jan 1886 New Zealand 6 children) I know that you think buying Michael death certificate might be pointless to giving who his parents are but you might be able to find if he was born in Australia or how long he might have lived in Australia and other children. Sorry I could not help Cheers Josephine Qld Hi list, This is my first time. I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients records for Melbourne E. Hospital. The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on death record #2219. Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could be pointless. There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. Michele in Sydney<< --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Maria, Many thanks for your suggestions. Michele -----Original Message----- From: Maria Celano <maria.celano@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2019 10:31 AM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Have you tried the National Archives of Australia (online) ? Have you tried Victoria Diggers Resources? from Maria On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:20 PM lynsmum14@outlook.com <lynsmum14@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi list, > This is my first time. > I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients > records for Melbourne E. Hospital. >> The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on > death record #2219. >> Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could > be pointless. >> There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. > > His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. >> The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. >> Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. >> Michele in Sydney.

Hi Josephine, William's daughter was Charlotte b: 1867 Timor West Vic. m: 27/1/1899 Maryborough Vic. to Charles MATHIAS. Michele -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Conray <javc@powerup.com.au> Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2019 6:55 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: MELBOURNE E. HOSPITAL >>Hi Michael What is his daughter married name and any dates for her marriage or birth might be a help. Cheers Josephine QLD From: lynsmum14@outlook.com [mailto:lynsmum14@outlook.com] Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 9:20 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] MELBOURNE E. HOSPITAL Hi list, This is my first time. I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients records for Melbourne E. Hospital. The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on death record #2219. Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could be pointless. There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. Michele in Sydney<<

Hi Michael What is his daughter married name and any dates for her marriage or birth might be a help. Cheers Josephine QLD -----Original Message----- From: lynsmum14@outlook.com [mailto:lynsmum14@outlook.com] Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2019 9:20 PM To: AUS-MELBOURNE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] MELBOURNE E. HOSPITAL Hi list, This is my first time. I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients records for Melbourne E. Hospital. The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on death record #2219. Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could be pointless. There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. Michele in Sydney. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Have you tried the National Archives of Australia (online) ? Have you tried Victoria Diggers Resources? from Maria On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 9:20 PM lynsmum14@outlook.com <lynsmum14@outlook.com> wrote: > Hi list, > This is my first time. > > I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients records > for Melbourne E. Hospital. > > The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on death > record #2219. > > Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could be > pointless. > > There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. > > His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. > > The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. > > Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. > > Michele in Sydney. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi list, This is my first time. I have viewed PROVIC but haven't viewed if they hold the patients records for Melbourne E. Hospital. The man in question is William HENSON who died 1885 aged 70 years on death record #2219. Unfortunately there are no parents displayed so buying his D/C could be pointless. There are many Williams who arrived in Victoria as British subjects. His daughter's M/C states he is a Miner. The other William who died in 1880 is well documented in the newspapers. Any guidance with the query is greatly appreciated. Michele in Sydney.

At 07:47 AM 12/07/2019, you wrote: >Sorry it's taken so long school holidays looking after grandkids. Hi Josephine, I am just so grateful for your help and looks like you are right re Stanley Guilfoyle Many thanks for all your kind help It is greatly appreciated Cheers Marilyn --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Marilyn Sorry it's taken so long school holidays looking after grandkids. Could not find any family trees or a record to directly establish who Stanley Leslie Martin Guilfoyle born 18 Jan 1923 Father & Mother were, but maybe one record on Electoral Rolls.He did married Margaret Georgina Constance McCartney on 20 Nov 1952, she was born 15 May 1926 Belfast Northern Ireland. I think Stanley father as you say is Leslie Davis Guilfoyle the son of Martin Michael G & Elizabeth Bastow. Leslie David G was married to Florence Susan Heal 1921 in Victoria. On the 1949 Electoral Rolls there is a Leslie Davis Guilfoyle- carpenter Florence Susan- home duties June Beryl- Burroughs operator Stanley Leslie - Clerk and this is the one I think is Stanley Leslie Martin Guilfoyle. Hope this helps Josephine Qld -----Original Message----- From: Watson Family [mailto:watsonb@iinet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2019 7:46 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-MELBOURNE] Re: AUS-MELBOURNE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 . I've been trying to track who Stanley's father is to check the relationship. It seems like a different tier as he wouldn't be a son of Michael, maybe a son of one of the first wives children. I'm thinking maybe Leslie David. Any info on this person would be wonderful --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Josephine, yes I have all that info It was just Arnold wee couldn't find Interestingly my cousin has sent this info Dame Margaret Guilfoyle b.1926(who was a liberal party senator for many years 1971 to 1987) married Stanley Leslie Martin Guilfoyle in 1952 he was a cousin I think to my Mum. Mum use to say to me that Margaret Guilfoyle was her cousin however it was Stanley and Margaret through marriage. I've been trying to track who Stanley's father is to check the relationship. It seems like a different tier as he wouldn't be a son of Michael, maybe a son of one of the first wives children. I'm thinking maybe Leslie David. Any info on this person would be wonderful also this info Martin Guilfoyle's father John Guilfoyle came to Australia as a convict from Ireland to Hobart Tasmania on the Lord Auckland arrived 29/1/1853. His sentence was 7 years for writing a threatening letter to an Englishman who stole his families land. John Guilfoyle managed to do very well and ended up a very prominent person of Powlett Plains, he lived a long life (89 years) This was Michael Martin's Dad Many thanks for your kind help Cheers Marilyn At 12:11 PM 7/07/2019, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >I am sorry to say that Arnold is living by himself at 39 Hotham St. East >Melbourne he would be about 22 years old. >As you say it looks like he has just disappear, as there are only two >records on Ancestry his Birth & Electoral Roll. >You would think that he has died, change his name or gone over sea to have >no records. > >He did have a sister Elsie Eileen Guilfoyle b5/9/1916 Brunswick Vic & died >25/6/2006 Greenslopes Qld married 1941 in Vic to Neville Audrey Ralph Davis >b 30/5/1913 Moonee ponds Melb. and died 6/3/1994 Brisbane. They had two boys >and a girl but no names. > >Arnold father Martin Michael was also born at Powlett Plains Victoria; maybe >if there is a family History Society you could write to them and see if they >have any info on the family. > >Sorry I could not help more >Cheers >Josephine >Qld > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > >[mailto:aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com] > >Sent: Friday, 5 July 2019 6:03 PM > >To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > >Subject: AUS-MELBOURNE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 > > > >Send AUS-MELBOURNE mailing list submissions to aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > > > >To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > >subscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > > > >To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body > >unsubscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > >aus-melbourne-owner@rootsweb.com > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > >"Re: Contents of AUS-MELBOURNE digest..." > > > > > >--- > >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > >Unsubscribe > >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > >community > > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Hi Marilyn I am sorry to say that Arnold is living by himself at 39 Hotham St. East Melbourne he would be about 22 years old. As you say it looks like he has just disappear, as there are only two records on Ancestry his Birth & Electoral Roll. You would think that he has died, change his name or gone over sea to have no records. He did have a sister Elsie Eileen Guilfoyle b5/9/1916 Brunswick Vic & died 25/6/2006 Greenslopes Qld married 1941 in Vic to Neville Audrey Ralph Davis b 30/5/1913 Moonee ponds Melb. and died 6/3/1994 Brisbane. They had two boys and a girl but no names. Arnold father Martin Michael was also born at Powlett Plains Victoria; maybe if there is a family History Society you could write to them and see if they have any info on the family. Sorry I could not help more Cheers Josephine Qld > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com] >Sent: Friday, 5 July 2019 6:03 PM >To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com >Subject: AUS-MELBOURNE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 > >Send AUS-MELBOURNE mailing list submissions to aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > >To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body >subscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > >To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body >unsubscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at >aus-melbourne-owner@rootsweb.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of AUS-MELBOURNE digest..." > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Hi Josephine Bless you Josephine that is indeed our Arnold. Is he with anyone else at that address? but after that he seems to completely disappear. I have scanned all the newspapers checked deaths in Victoria, NSW, SA and Queensland and even NZ no sign Any suggestions welcome Have tried Gullfoyle, Gilfoyle but no show Many thanks for your kind help Cheers Marilyn At 06:52 PM 5/07/2019, you wrote: >Hi Marilyn > >Not sure if this is your Arnold Guilfoyle below do you know his parents >names. > >Arnold Alexander Martin Guilfoyle Born 1912 in Powlett Vic Reg/no 14653 >His parents Martin Michael Guilfoyle and Jessie Delia McRar they married >1909 >Jessie Guilfoyle died in 1918 Vic age 30 so does that fit. Arnold would have >been about 5 years. > > >Electoral Rolls >Arnold Alexander Martin Guilfoyle 1934 - 39 Hotham St. East Melbourne- he >is a Printer > >Hope this helps >Cheers >Josephine >Qld. > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com >[mailto:aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com] >Sent: Friday, 5 July 2019 6:03 PM >To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com >Subject: AUS-MELBOURNE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 > >Send AUS-MELBOURNE mailing list submissions to aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com > >To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body >subscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > >To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body >unsubscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at >aus-melbourne-owner@rootsweb.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of AUS-MELBOURNE digest..." > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >_______________________________________________ > >_______________________________________________ >Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >Unsubscribe >https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com >Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >community

Hi Marilyn Not sure if this is your Arnold Guilfoyle below do you know his parents names. Arnold Alexander Martin Guilfoyle Born 1912 in Powlett Vic Reg/no 14653 His parents Martin Michael Guilfoyle and Jessie Delia McRar they married 1909 Jessie Guilfoyle died in 1918 Vic age 30 so does that fit. Arnold would have been about 5 years. Electoral Rolls Arnold Alexander Martin Guilfoyle 1934 - 39 Hotham St. East Melbourne- he is a Printer Hope this helps Cheers Josephine Qld. -----Original Message----- From: aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, 5 July 2019 6:03 PM To: aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-MELBOURNE Digest, Vol 14, Issue 11 Send AUS-MELBOURNE mailing list submissions to aus-melbourne@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to aus-melbourne-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at aus-melbourne-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AUS-MELBOURNE digest..." --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi, Hope someone is still out to help Cold and gloomy wet day in Perth A cousin wants help finding an Uncle -Arnold Alexander Guilfoyle who was born in 1912 and who was put into the St Vincent De Paul orphanage at South Melbourne when his mother died. I found a news article in 1926 about him playing in the band but nothing after that Arnold was born in 1912 however I don't have any other information. Not sure if he married and had a family or where he lived after leaving the orphanage. probably aged 15 Or when he died. Any help is more than welcome Thank you Cheers Marilyn from Western Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus