Hi Karen, To know for sure you should contact the Port Macquarie Aboriginal Lands Council. I know that Biripi was north of the Manning River around the Taree area but I doubt that they would have stretched up to Port Macquarie. Also in the Taree area there is Worimi and Ngamba people. Most Aboriginal maps are a non-Indigenous person's perspective of the area, recorded well after colonisation and quite often there were smaller nations that were not put on any maps. It is best to get the info from the Lands Council. Peter Radoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Payne" <kpayne@fishinternet.com.au> To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > I was just reading your email to Margaret and was wondering if you could > read your map and tell me what tribes were around the Port Macquarie area > please. > Karen > -----Original Message----- > From: DALE CHALKER <dchalker@vtown.com.au> > To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:12 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > >Hi Marg > >I have an Australian map with the Tribes marked on it I will have a look > >when i find it and send you there names for that area > >As for the birth certificate I have the Australian Vital Records If you > send > >me what details you know I will do a look up > >Kazan > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > >http://www.eboom.com/free/ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <rebel14@iinet.net.au> > >To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:43 AM > >Subject: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > >> > >> Could someone tell me where I could start searching for my gg > >> grandmother's birth certificate when it is not listed on the NSW online > >> site. > >> Also any of the tribal names around Bourke & Brewarrina in the mid > 1800's. > >> > >> Marg > >> rebel14@iinet.net.au > >> SAVE OUR CENSUS ... ON 7 AUG, 2001 TICK "YES" > >> Want to know more? > >> See: http://www.affho.org/affho-07.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > >> > >> > > > > > >==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > >
The map I have is printed by AIATSIS in Canberra ------------------------------------ Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! http://www.eboom.com/free/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Radoll" <pjradoll@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > Hi Karen, > > To know for sure you should contact the Port Macquarie Aboriginal Lands > Council. > > I know that Biripi was north of the Manning River around the Taree area but > I doubt that they would have stretched up to Port Macquarie. Also in the > Taree area there is Worimi and Ngamba people. > > Most Aboriginal maps are a non-Indigenous person's perspective of the area, > recorded well after colonisation and quite often there were smaller nations > that were not put on any maps. It is best to get the info from the Lands > Council. > > Peter Radoll > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Payne" <kpayne@fishinternet.com.au> > To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:58 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > I was just reading your email to Margaret and was wondering if you could > > read your map and tell me what tribes were around the Port Macquarie area > > please. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DALE CHALKER <dchalker@vtown.com.au> > > To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > > >Hi Marg > > >I have an Australian map with the Tribes marked on it I will have a look > > >when i find it and send you there names for that area > > >As for the birth certificate I have the Australian Vital Records If you > > send > > >me what details you know I will do a look up > > >Kazan > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > >Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > > >http://www.eboom.com/free/ > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <rebel14@iinet.net.au> > > >To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:43 AM > > >Subject: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Could someone tell me where I could start searching for my gg > > >> grandmother's birth certificate when it is not listed on the NSW online > > >> site. > > >> Also any of the tribal names around Bourke & Brewarrina in the mid > > 1800's. > > >> > > >> Marg > > >> rebel14@iinet.net.au > > >> SAVE OUR CENSUS ... ON 7 AUG, 2001 TICK "YES" > > >> Want to know more? > > >> See: http://www.affho.org/affho-07.htm > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > >
Hi Dale, I should put some context to my comments. I worked at AIATSIS for 5 years I left last December. I also have that map. The map has an, ABOUT THIS MAP section it explains that the map was produced using their collections at that time. It also has a very good Disclaimer notice. Both of these explain why some Aboriginal Nations are not on the map and why there are some errors. As the disclaimer says, the map "indicates only the general location of the larger groupings of people". Therefore, it should be considered as a rough guide. Peter Radoll ----- Original Message ----- From: "DALE CHALKER" <dchalker@vtown.com.au> To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > The map I have is printed by AIATSIS in Canberra > > > > ------------------------------------ > Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > http://www.eboom.com/free/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Radoll" <pjradoll@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > Hi Karen, > > > > To know for sure you should contact the Port Macquarie Aboriginal Lands > > Council. > > > > I know that Biripi was north of the Manning River around the Taree area > but > > I doubt that they would have stretched up to Port Macquarie. Also in the > > Taree area there is Worimi and Ngamba people. > > > > Most Aboriginal maps are a non-Indigenous person's perspective of the > area, > > recorded well after colonisation and quite often there were smaller > nations > > that were not put on any maps. It is best to get the info from the Lands > > Council. > > > > Peter Radoll > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karen Payne" <kpayne@fishinternet.com.au> > > To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:58 AM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > > > I was just reading your email to Margaret and was wondering if you could > > > read your map and tell me what tribes were around the Port Macquarie > area > > > please. > > > Karen > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: DALE CHALKER <dchalker@vtown.com.au> > > > To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:12 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > > > > > >Hi Marg > > > >I have an Australian map with the Tribes marked on it I will have a > look > > > >when i find it and send you there names for that area > > > >As for the birth certificate I have the Australian Vital Records If you > > > send > > > >me what details you know I will do a look up > > > >Kazan > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Make Unlimited phone calls from your PC to ANY phone in the World! > > > >http://www.eboom.com/free/ > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <rebel14@iinet.net.au> > > > >To: <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:43 AM > > > >Subject: [AUS-Koori] Help Please > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Could someone tell me where I could start searching for my gg > > > >> grandmother's birth certificate when it is not listed on the NSW > online > > > >> site. > > > >> Also any of the tribal names around Bourke & Brewarrina in the mid > > > 1800's. > > > >> > > > >> Marg > > > >> rebel14@iinet.net.au > > > >> SAVE OUR CENSUS ... ON 7 AUG, 2001 TICK "YES" > > > >> Want to know more? > > > >> See: http://www.affho.org/affho-07.htm > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > ==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, User Research Database > and Aboriginal links at: > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~isanders/sub_pages/aus-koori.htm >