Hi Lisa (and group) I am having a mentally defective day... sorry for the mistakes. I am so very confused by this part of my family. There are secrets and lies (all the reasons were legitimate, a mentioned in an earlier email) so I don't know which is what??!! I just spent some of the afternoon cutting and pasting all the BDM for Bakes to form family groups within Victoria, trying to find Mary Ann's place. To clarify I received some information from Kath Shilling, at the genealogy dept at ATSIC in Canberra. It was in the form of BDM records for Victoria. Apparently she is "THE lady who knows all about the aboriginal families and their genealogy, she is very very helpful and will direct you on how to find your ancestors". And , yes it is Albury they were married in, I can get you the exact year tomorrow. I am unfamiliar with this kind of searching so am as a consequence pretty ignorant about it all. So thanks very much for your helpful advice. kindest regards Sam -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Arnold <lisandom@bigpond.com> To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, 21 January 2001 7:36 Subject: RE: [AUS-Koori] who was she...? >Hi Sam >I will see how I go with the info you have given me. >p.s . you wrote in your mail My great grandfather, George Kinchington, Mary >Ann (Polly) Bakes In Albury in 19...something (did you leave out married in >Albury?) also you mentioned ATSIC helping you. was that an error? do you >mean AIATSIS? >I'll let you know if I come up with anyone! keep your fingers crossed >Lisa Arnold >-----Original Message----- >From: Sam Beattie [mailto:russam@bigpond.com] >Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2001 12:15 PM >To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AUS-Koori] who was she...? > > >Hi Lisa >Sorry for the delay in replying. >I have been searching for the scant information that I have. It was in one >of the piles I have here in front of me!! >Thankyou so much for you kind offer of help. This is a matter I dearly want >clarification on. >There is family legend that says that Mary Ann Bakes was the daughter of a >full blood aboriginal woman, whose maiden name was Gorman. >My great grandfather, George Kinchington, Mary Ann (Polly) Bakes In Albury >in 19...something and apparently Polly Bakes had two sisters, Lisa and >Alice. >Apparently Polly lived in Kangaroo Flats before they were married, after >which the couple lived in Dederang. >All of this could be wrong. I have no pictures of these people so I don't >even know if they look Aboriginal... >I have seen my grandmother and her brother and there are features and skin >tones that suggest this may be true. My mum and her siblings look >possibilities too.... but who knows. I am just interested in laying this >myth to rest or clarifying it. >You probably read my post about ATSIC's help. I got a list of children born >to a Dorman woman and her Bakes husband in Yackandandah (Vic), with no Mary >Ann or Polly... > >I look forward to your reply. >Sam >-----Original Message----- >From: Lisa Arnold <lisandom@bigpond.com> >To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, 19 January 2001 6:20 >Subject: RE: [AUS-Koori] mary hogan > > >>Hi Sam >>I,m involved in reaserch in Albury/Wodonga area if you have a name you >could >>forward I will keep my eye out. Good books that may help are "My Heart is >>Breaking"- A Joint guide to Records abour Aboriginal People in the public >>records office of Victoria and the Australian archives, Victorian Regional >>Office and also "Riverina Aboriginals 1874 - 1945" Dan Elphick >>and >>are there any Aboriginal desendants from the North East of Victoria out >>there? from say Benalla/Wangaratta to Omeo? >>Lisa >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Sam Beattie [mailto:russam@bigpond.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2001 8:52 AM >>To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [AUS-Koori] mary hogan >> >> >>Hi Lynne >>Can you let me know how your search goes. >>I have been searching for my Koori ancestor (mine was from the Albury area) >>and have had no luck and don't know what to do next... Very frustrating. >>Anyways, thanks in advance and the best of luck to you >>Sam >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Lynne West <lynne_west@hotmail.com> >>To: AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-KOORI-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Tuesday, 16 January 2001 5:21 >>Subject: [AUS-Koori] mary hogan >> >> >>>Mary Hogan was my ggg grandmother. She married John Phillips and their son >>>Albert married Harriett Stephens in 1870. I am led to believe she was from >>>the worimi people and the family lived in the dorrigo/armidale district. >>Can >>>anyone help with information? >>>_________________________________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >>> >>> >>>==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== >>> >>> >> >> >>==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> >>==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== >> >> > > >==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > > > >==== AUS-KOORI Mailing List ==== > >