Hi Jim (Blair) By now, you will definitely consider me as a pain in the "rear end". Sorry Pal! There are things I WANT to know - not things I NEED to know, but I get jolly irritable if I can't find logical answers. My mail box gets chokkers with "There's a new member.........." - So! Big deal! I was a new member but only you acknowledged it! I do not need to be "acknowledged" by all and sundry. Like everyone else on these lists, we are out to help one another. So - why do we have to be told there's a new member (or whatever the words are -----I think I might be cranky??!). Sorry to all, but yes -- I am cranky! People in America are fearful for their lives. Every few words in their mails include the word 'war' and I have had lots of these. Can we (please?) just talk about the histories of our families (and their skeletons)? Let's face it, we're all related via Adam and Eve. (No hysterics allowed) What a grand family we are?! Bev [email protected] Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia Researching: BELL HARRISON KERLIN WILLIS [Ireland] BARKER BARNETT CANTLE COURTNEY DALTON YOUNG/YOUNGS [England] GIESEMANN HANSEN HENDRIKSEN TIMM [Prussia, Denmark]

Subject: mailing list Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:07:49 -0600 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Greetings from Sydney Australia, I am responding to your offer of a mailing list. I would like to know more; costs, information etc. Fingers crossed! I keep getting dead ends. Regards, Lori Kearney

LISTERS: Please NOTE: send any queries, answers eetc to the List address of the mailing list. Sending anything else other than the one eowrd "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to the request list automatically gets rejected and forwarded to me as list admin, so PLEASE keep your emails within the list environment. Anybody who can assist Clarrie, whose message I have included below, please reply to him via the list address or to HIM personally, Cheers Jim Crighton, List administrator - Enjoy the "Carnival of Flowers in Toowoomba" Subject: Re: Gard/e Irish History Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:13:52 -0600 From: "Benjamin Green" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> I am researching three Gard/e brothers, William b.1816, Thomas b.1823 and John who migrated from Cork to Australia early to mid 1800s, time and means unknown. Do you know anything about this family. Are you able to direct me to someone who may. Any information would be greatly appreciated as it is a great mystery and there are many in Australia trying to find their Irish ancestry. Regards Clarrie Green (gggranddaughter of Thomas)

[My apologies to the admins of the few lists that this will go to. However, you are probably the people most likely to notice any bounced emails] All, We are moving our greenaus.com domain over to our other server in the next few days. We don't expect significant delays, but thought we ought to warn you in case an email bounces unexpectedly or you can't access the website. We have also just registered a new domain which will be used for a new business project we are putting together. >From next week, all of our domains will be located on the same servers saving us time and money managing multiple domains and different locations. As long as I cna remember the passwords, I should survive. ;-) Cheers, Charles

Hi all Would anyone be reseaching this family please? I thought that "Margaret Jones of Qld" and "Julia Johnson of London" may be researching this family but I have no confirmation of this, and no way of contacting either person. (PS - Julia and I are not related by our common surname :) 1 Laurence RYAN . +Bridget WALSH ...... 2 James RYAN b: Abt. 1841 Doon, Limerick, Ireland d: 29 May 1920 Buried: Gatton, Qld, Aust .......... +Elizabeth MADDEN (AKA): Bessy b: Abt. 1846 Doon, Limerick, Ireland m: 9 January 1866 Ipswich, Qld, Aust d: 1 June 1910 Buried: Gatton, Qld, Aust Father: Patrick MADDEN Mother: Margaret BOURKE .............. 3 Laurence RYAN .................. +Mary Agnes PORTLEY .............. 3 Bridget RYAN .................. +Martin Joseph RYAN .............. 3 Patrick RYAN .................. +Mary Bridget QUINN .............. 3 Margaret RYAN (AKA): Maggie .................. +John or Dan WHELAN .............. 3 James RYAN .............. 3 Mary Ellen RYAN .................. +James KEARNEY .............. 3 Elizabeth RYAN .............. 3 Winifred Anne RYAN .................. +Patrick James GILSHENAN .............. 3 John RYAN .............. 3 Johanna Agnes RYAN .................. +Joseph Henry EDGE ...... 2 Thomas RYAN b: Abt. 1849 .......... +Mary Ann O'SULLIVAN b: 6 August 1859 m: 8 January 1877 Ipswich, Qld, Aust Father: Florence O'SULLIVAN Mother: Johanna DONNELLY .............. 3 Johanna Agnes RYAN b: 3 October 1878 .............. 3 Bridget Mary RYAN b: 21 October 1880 .............. 3 Florence Thomas RYAN b: 2 January 1883 .............. 3 Laurence Patrick RYAN b: 17 June 1885 .............. 3 Ellen O'Sullivan RYAN b: 21 May 1887 Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Hi Does anyone have connections with this family, please? Daniel RYAN .+Mary BREEN ......2 Francis RYAN Born: 1839 Died: 10 October 1874 .......... +Elizabeth MADDEN Born: 1846 Gortavalla, Doon, Limerick, Ireland Married: 5 June 1865 Ipswich, Qld, Aust Father: Cornelius MADDEN Mother: Jane COLLINS .............. 3 Donald RYAN Born: 23 February 1866 .............. 3 Jane RYAN Born: 12 May 1867 .............. 3 Cornelius RYAN Died: 4 December 1876 .............. 3 John RYAN Born: 1 May 1871 .............. 3 Mary RYAN Born: 18 February 1875 Died: 5 November 1876 Thanks Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

See Moram could be yours misspelt. From irebdm Page 4 of 5 Show 5 10 20 50 100 Go to Page: 12345 Action Surname Given Name Year Place Mother Father [no name]emai address MESKILL Ellen 1867 IRE. Mary KENNEDY Bartholemew [email protected] MORAM John 1837 Westmeath [email protected] MURRAY William 1859 Waterford Mary HULBERT James [email protected] FREE Irish BDMs Post your details to Birth Death Or Marriage First [email protected] Then > http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/irelandbdm Then go to top left Your Groups black arrow and point to it and blue menu board appears IRELANDBDM-Datebase or Birth Death Marriage blue panel click database then when it opens scroll down to table and click then post or search ancestors born in Ireland, married or died anyplace. Enjoy it Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Desmond Skelly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] My family interests > These are my main family interests:- > Scally, O'Mara, Skelly, Fox, Moran, McCaul, Cronk, McLaughlin, Gannon, > Coonan, Littleton, Gleeson. > Des Skelly. > Moorooka, Brisbane. > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > >>"A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour."<< > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

As usual, you people have responded - both privately and through the Lists. Thank you very much. There has been mail from London, America and Australia. I have already contacted the Bank, ePay, and have done all the other bits and pieces you should do, now I'm doing what Wendy suggested and going to internet eraser. Best wishes Bev [email protected] Sunshine Coast, Qld, Australia Researching: BELL HARRISON KERLIN WILLIS [Ireland] BARKER BARNETT CANTLE COURTNEY DALTON YOUNG/YOUNGS [England] GIESEMANN HANSEN HENDRIKSEN TIMM [Prussia, Denmark]

Hi Listers, My name is Lorraine Cotter from Portarlington, Victoria. Please bear with me as I am a complete novice at both computers and research. I am looking to see if I have any relatives around - mt gggrandfather was George KEE from Donoughmore, Donegal, Ireland. Born 1843 Married Annie BIRCH from Geelong, Victoria Children - James Born Lara 1874 John born Lara 1875 Annie born Lara 1877 ( mygrandmother) Mary born Lara 1878 George born Lara 1879 William born Lara 1882 Hubert born Lara 1885 Isabella born Lara 1886 Martha born Lara 1892 Any info gratefully appreciated. Also can anyone tell me how to go about finding shipping records from when he came here. He was a farmer at Lara.(Geelong) Lorraine Portarlington [email protected]

Julie and Listers I think that Bendigo was called Sandhurst in the early days of the gold rush. I may be wrong but I am fairly confident. A lot of towns changed their names for various reasons. Jan in Toowoomba Researching:BUTLER, CORNWELL, DAVIDSON, FREEBODY, GENRICH, HENSHAW, MEIBUSCH, OLDFIELD, PIOCH, SARGEANT, SCHRODER, TEYS, WALLACE, WARD, ZIMMERLE

Hi Lorrae, Not real sure what your looking for here, however if its information about: Father: Donald MCPHERSON Mother: Annie REDMOND. That I can supply as Annies parents are my GGG Grandparents. also think I have Donald and Annies children and maybe Donalds parents. there are other surnames there that I recognise as well but only have limited numbers of them. let me know if any of that is any good to you. cheers Karen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom & Lorrae Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] CAMPBELL; MCPHERSON; MOLONEY; CULLA; MOORE; O'DONNELL; SHEEHY; RYAN; DOWNEY; > CAMPBELL; MCPHERSON; MOLONEY; CULLA; MOORE; O'DONNELL; SHEEHY; RYAN; DOWNEY > > Hi > Big brother James MADDEN arrived from Doon, Limerick, Ireland to Ipswich, > Qld area in 1863, and he brought his two sisters out in 1864. In 1877, > younger brother John arrived. > > 1 John MADDEN 1856 - 1929 > . +Sarah CAMPBELL 1861 - 1939 m: 1878 - > Father: Henry CAMPBELL Mother: Mary SMITH > ...... 2 Cornelius MADDEN 1880 - 1954 > ...... 2 Mary Ann MADDEN 1881 - 1964 > ...... 2 Nicholas MADDEN 1883 - > .......... +Rosanna MCPHERSON 1887 - m: 1913 - > Father: Donald MCPHERSON Mother: Annie REDMOND > ...... 2 Jane MADDEN 1885 - 1914 > ...... 2 Henry John MADDEN 1887 - > .......... +Rose Catherine MOLONEY m: 1917 - > ...... 2 John Joseph MADDEN 1889 - 1960 > .......... +Margaret CULLA 1890 - 1991 m: 1921 - > Father: Thomas CULLA Mother: Ellen MADDEN > ...... 2 Sarah Agnes MADDEN 1892 - 1972 > ...... 2 Susan May MADDEN 1895 - > .......... +William Matthew MOORE m: 1924 - > ...... 2 Patrick Francis MADDEN 1898 - > .......... +Annie Mary O'DONNELL 1902 - m: 1923 - > Father: Patrick O'DONNELL Mother: Sarah Ann MIDDLETON > ...... 2 Anne Veronica Catherine MADDEN 1900 - > .......... +James Alexander SHEEHY 1897 - m: 1937 - > Father: Thomas SHEEHY Mother: Mary HEILY > ...... 2 Michael MADDEN 1904 - 1984 > .......... +Catherine Mary RYAN 1913 - 1939 m: 1935 - > Father: Patrick RYAN Mother: Ellen MACNAMARA > ...... *2nd Wife of Michael Madden: > .......... +Florence DOWNEY 1911 - 1996 m: 1942 - > Father: Michael Thomas DOWNEY Mother: Margaret Mary BURKE > > I have some of these descendants - so far, Ellen MADDEN (mother of Margaret > CULLA) is not related to my MADDENs and I have some information on her > family, too. > > Lorrae Johnson > Plainland Qld 4341 > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich > > 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. > Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, > Smart, > Callaghan, O'Brien > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > >>"A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour."<< > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Thanks Frances, I am trying to dig deeper into that line with little success but slowly and surely. My Catherine Healy did die in Warnambool, Victoria, December 1900. Her father is stated to be Micheal Healy and mother mary Kelly on the death cert. She was born around 1831. Similarities but not the same unfortunately! Cheers Jenni > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Catherine Healey > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:26:14 +1000 > From: "F Berg" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Jennifer, > In reply to your query about Catherine Healy, my g-grandmother was Catherine Healy who was born in Thurles Tipperary about 1836. Shedied in 1900 in northern N.S.W. Her death certificate states she was married to Stephen Maher in Irelandbut her husband's death certificate says they were married in Plymouth. > Iwould think the later was right as she gave that information. Her parents were named as Michael Healey and Hannah Cormac. > Looks like this is not your Catherine but I thought it worth mentioning. > Regards Frances Berg

CAMPBELL; MCPHERSON; MOLONEY; CULLA; MOORE; O'DONNELL; SHEEHY; RYAN; DOWNEY Hi Big brother James MADDEN arrived from Doon, Limerick, Ireland to Ipswich, Qld area in 1863, and he brought his two sisters out in 1864. In 1877, younger brother John arrived. 1 John MADDEN 1856 - 1929 . +Sarah CAMPBELL 1861 - 1939 m: 1878 - Father: Henry CAMPBELL Mother: Mary SMITH ...... 2 Cornelius MADDEN 1880 - 1954 ...... 2 Mary Ann MADDEN 1881 - 1964 ...... 2 Nicholas MADDEN 1883 - .......... +Rosanna MCPHERSON 1887 - m: 1913 - Father: Donald MCPHERSON Mother: Annie REDMOND ...... 2 Jane MADDEN 1885 - 1914 ...... 2 Henry John MADDEN 1887 - .......... +Rose Catherine MOLONEY m: 1917 - ...... 2 John Joseph MADDEN 1889 - 1960 .......... +Margaret CULLA 1890 - 1991 m: 1921 - Father: Thomas CULLA Mother: Ellen MADDEN ...... 2 Sarah Agnes MADDEN 1892 - 1972 ...... 2 Susan May MADDEN 1895 - .......... +William Matthew MOORE m: 1924 - ...... 2 Patrick Francis MADDEN 1898 - .......... +Annie Mary O'DONNELL 1902 - m: 1923 - Father: Patrick O'DONNELL Mother: Sarah Ann MIDDLETON ...... 2 Anne Veronica Catherine MADDEN 1900 - .......... +James Alexander SHEEHY 1897 - m: 1937 - Father: Thomas SHEEHY Mother: Mary HEILY ...... 2 Michael MADDEN 1904 - 1984 .......... +Catherine Mary RYAN 1913 - 1939 m: 1935 - Father: Patrick RYAN Mother: Ellen MACNAMARA ...... *2nd Wife of Michael Madden: .......... +Florence DOWNEY 1911 - 1996 m: 1942 - Father: Michael Thomas DOWNEY Mother: Margaret Mary BURKE I have some of these descendants - so far, Ellen MADDEN (mother of Margaret CULLA) is not related to my MADDENs and I have some information on her family, too. Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, Smart, Callaghan, O'Brien

MARTIN; INGHAM; DAVIS; HAUGH; PENHALIGON; COOK; CARTY; SCANLAN; MACDONALD; MEREDITH; CRAN; KLUCK; HUDDY; MILLER Hi list Big brother James MADDEN arrived from Doon, Limerick, Ireland to Ipswich, Qld area in 1863, and he brought his two sisters out in 1864. In 1877, younger brother John arrived. I have a few of the descendants on the database, but would be interested in swapping information to bring this uptodate - reunion being planned for Jan 2003. 1 Jane Mary MADDEN 1850 - 1931 from Limerick, Ireland . +Robert MARTIN 1847 - 1882 m: 1872 - Father: John MARTIN Mother: Margaret GRIMES ...... 2 Elizabeth Jane MARTIN 1873 - .......... +?? INGHAM ...... 2 Margaret Ann MARTIN 1874 - .......... +Michael DAVIS ...... 2 Isabella Gertrude MARTIN 1877 - 1961 .......... +Patrick HAUGH Abt. 1864 - 1932 m: 1895 - Father: James HAUGH Mother: Mary COLLINS ...... 2 Susanna Letitia MARTIN 1878 - .......... +Charles Henry PENHALIGON m: 1899 - ...... *2nd Husband of Susanna Letitia Martin: .......... +Jack COOK m: Abt. 1915 - ...... 2 Mary Matilda MARTIN 1882 - .......... +Robert CARTY *2nd Husband of Jane Mary Madden: . +Joseph SCANLAN 1851 - 1922 m: 1884 - Father: William SCANLAN Mother: Margaret Jane MAHON ...... 2 Esther SCANLAN 1884 - 1968 .......... +George MACDONALD - 1968 m: 1920 - ...... 2 William Anthony SCANLAN 1887 - 1942 ...... 2 May SCANLAN 1889 - 1981 .......... +William Henry MEREDITH 1890 - 1917 m: 1911 - Father: James MEREDITH Mother: Theresa KENNON ...... *2nd Husband of May Scanlan: .......... +John Farquhar CRAN 1886 - 1954 m: 1920 - Father: James CRAN Mother: Mary Ann NOBLE ...... 2 Joseph Patrick SCANLAN 1892 - 1989 .......... +Maria Elizabeth KLUCK 1893 - 1968 m: 1922 - Father: August Johann KLUCK Mother: Maria Anna LEVANDOFSKI ...... 2 Luke SCANLAN 1893 - 1962 .......... +Doris May HUDDY 1903 - 1981 m: 1924 - Father: Richard Claude HUDDY Mother: Mary Ann FERRIS ...... 2 Jane SCANLAN 1895 - 1984 .......... +Francis MILLER - 1952 m: 1915 - Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich

Help Here is a family that just disappeared - cannot find any trace of them - did they migrate interstate or overseas? Settled in Ipswich area, Qld. 1 Elizabeth MADDEN 1846 - Gortavalla, Doon, Limerick, Ireland . +Francis RYAN 1839 - 1874 m: 1865 - Father: Daniel RYAN Mother: Mary BREEN ...... 2 Donald RYAN 1866 - ...... 2 Jane RYAN 1867 - ...... 2 Cornelius RYAN - 1876 ...... 2 John RYAN 1871 - ...... 2 Mary RYAN 1875 - 1876 *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Madden: . +Patrick DOYLE m: 1888 - ...... 2 Mary DOYLE 1888 - 1920 Very little information and common names too. Any help appreciated. Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich Researching: 5. MADDEN, Coghlane, Burke, - Ireland 1863 - Qld Aust. Including - Collins, Burke, RYAN, DOYLE, MARTIN, SCANLAN, Campbell, Smart, Callaghan, O'Brien

Also interested in Back Creek I had been told it was Talbot...but not so sure as I have a birth cert stating Back Creek near Sandhurst (Bendigo)...Wouldn't that be stretching things a bit? Judy Researching KELLY (Kildare>Bendigo), MURRAY ( Roscommon> Wedderburn)

Hi Edna, I'm interested in your Thomas FITZPATRICK. I have a Thomas FITZPATRICK who married Annie DALEY and had at least three children, Annie Maria, Emily Daley and Maria in the 1870's. Annie Maria married James Joseph CONDON in 1899 in Mt Morgan, Queensland. On this certificate it is stated Annie was born in Calliope, Queensland although I have been unable to find her birth or that of Emily who was named as a witness at Annie's wedding. Annie and James were my husband's ggrandparents and I am really interested in finding out more about the FITZPATRICKS and the DALEYS. Have you had any other replies to your request? Lee Haley Lennox Head Australia At 06:15 06/09/2001, Edna Turner wrote: >Hi - I'm new to the list. >I am researching Thomas FITZPATRICK who came to Australia in maybe the >1850s. >He married in Adelaide on 24 February 1857 - Mary REEDY. >Thomas came from County Clare and Mary from County Limerick. >They had 5 children (not certain) : Austen (or maybe Archibald!uncertain >of this child); George (my g.father); Thomas; Mary and Ella. >Does anyone have any connections to these families? >Love to hear from you. >Edna > > >==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== >I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a >cemetery search with a shovel > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Hi guys and gals That's better! Thank you Bev K

Attention James Crighton. James way back in November 1999 you kindly sent me some extracts, I think, from the Toowoomba Chronicle, on my great-grandfather, John Thomas Litttleton. It was in two parts. For the life of me I cannot find the first part you sent me. I don't know what safe place I've placed it, but it has vanished. Is there any chance of your sending me the first part again. The second part begins with the words " Hearing shortly afterwards that W.B. Tooth had forfeited the Crow's Nest head station, Mr Littleton ..." and has a short extract on the end on my grandfather, Bernard Skelly. I would appreciate it if you can help me with this request. Regards, Des Skelly.

Hi everyone, Would like to hear from anyone researching the families below... Matthew MURPHY c.1815 Cobh, Cork, Ireland, & Hannorah SHEA - c.28/08/1825 Cork, Ireland. Matthew MURPHY & Hannorah SHEA were married in 1840 Cork, Ireland. Seeing Hannorah was young when they married, I would say it is safe to assume she continued having children in NZ. Matthew Murphy & Hannorah (Nora) Shea children: Only child found so far: John Murphy - b.1841 Cork, Ireland Family folklore (before I found a distant relative) was the Murphy's sailed to Victoria, Australia, when John was about 6 years old. So say around 1847. However chatting with a distant rellie, he tells me they settled in New Zealand. John Murphy turns up in Victoria, Aust. in 1873 when he married Eliza Moffat/Morphet, at the age of 32. John MURPHY married Eliza MOFFAT/MORPHET in Victoria 1873. They had 12 children. 1. William Patrick - b.1873 - married Isabella BARNETT nee ROSS 2. Elizabeth Norah - b.1874 - married Alfred G BRIGGS 1896 3. John Andrew - b.1875 - married Clara PARKER 1899 & Daisy Eades McKEOWN 4. Henry - b.1877 - died 1906 Surrey Hills, Vic 5. Patrick - b.1879 - married Eva HALL 1900 & Bridget JONES c.1905 6. Eliza - b.1881 - died 1892 Murtoa, Vic 7. Catherine Emily - b.1883 - married Robert CLEVERLEY 1904 8. Francis Michael - b.1885 - married Catherine Azeline COLLET c.1908 9. Matthew Ernest - b.1886 - died 1905 Prahan, Vic 10. Ellen Margaret - b.1890 - married George Tasman WILLIAMSON 11. George James - b.1892 - died 1909 Balwyn, Vic 12. Mary Amelia - b.1894 - married Mr O'Sullivan Kind regards, Sherrie Blackman. Sydney.