Hi Karen would Bridget Sullivan have had a sister named Betsy who married Thomas Holmes in early 1820s. Thanks Daphne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Semken" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > Hi Charmaine, > > Just checked one of the certificates I have - > > John Connelly (born around 1829) m. Margaret Campbell in Stirling 1858. > > John's parents were noted as Charles Connelly and Bridget Sullivan. > > Do these names ring a bell? > > Cheers, Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > > > > Hi Karen > > > > John Connelly seems to be a popular name. I have a John born in Ireland > in > > 1816, but his children don't match those that you have listed. But who > > knows they could be cousins! I have that on the other side of the family, > > where there were several cousins by the same name. > > > > Keep in touch and let me know when you fnd out what part of Ireland they > > were from. I've only just started researching that side of the family and > > my aunt in Scotland has done all the leg work so far so I am waiting on > > further info from her. Although I think she is leaving the Irish side to > > me! > > > > Charmaine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karen Semken" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > > > > > > > Hi Jackie, Charmaine, > > > > > > Not sure if I've been in contact with either of you before - but in case > I > > > haven't here are my Connelly connections. Let me know if anything sounds > > > familiar. > > > > > > Mary Connelly (my mum) b. 1943 > > > > > > Her father - Charles Eric Connelly b.1901, London (brothers John Davis > > > b.1893 Melbourne, Norman born UK? & Edward born Brunswick, 1905). > > > > > > His father - Patrick Alan Connelly, born 1859 Stirling Scotland, > (brother > > > John & Sister Mary, both born in Stirling), died in Melbourne. > > > > > > His father - John Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) > > > His father - Charles Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but > unconfirmed) > > > > > > Regards, Karen > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jackie > > > > > > > > Where are your Connelly's from? My maiden name was Connelly. My > > > immediate > > > > relatives were from Scotland, but I have a John Connelly born in 1816 > in > > > > Ireland, don't know what part at this stage, or any other details > about > > > him. > > > > > > > > Charmaine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Boss" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:09 AM > > > > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there list, > > > > > Here is a list of surnames I am researching: > > > > > > > > > > Callaghan > > > > > Connelly , Connolly or Conolly > > > > > Faherty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > > > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > > > > http://www.sierrahome.com > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > > > http://www.sierrahome.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a > cemetery search with a shovel > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bridget WALPOLE b 1840 & Ellen WALPOLE b circa 1833 Tipperary Parents John WALPOLE and Bridget BROWN Bridget married Christopher HOPPNER 1860 Tarraville, Vic Ellen married John SMITH 1854 Tasmania Fathers occupation Farmer / Shopkeeper Trying to find other siblings if any and were they born town of Tipperary or Co Tipperary Joan Traill

Hello Joanne My LEAHY's came from SCHULL, CORK. Gfather was DANIEL LEAHY They settled in Brisbane Q, Robert St. Spring Hill to be exact. I know about present ones but am having great difficulty in going back past Daniel. It is like getting blood out of a stone, trying to get any thing out of Irish Of course, each one may have had brothers or sisters who settled around Qld. Hope this is of help. Lorraine. -------Original Message------- From: Joanne Mitchell Date: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:22:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] LEAHY Hi Lorraine, Do you have any idea where in Ireland your LEAHYs were from? I have LEAHYs from County Limerick, one of whom went to the Warwick area of QLD, but I am having no luck finding them in Ireland. Cheers, Joanne Mitchell Geelong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Egan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] LEAHY > Looking for information on LEAHY. Daniel LEAHY was a Royal Irish constable and married Catherine NASH about 1892. Emigrated to AUSTRALIA approx 1909 on "CARPENTARIA" settled in BRISBANE Q. Anyone out there? Lorraine LEAHY EGAN. > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks Peter > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Lorraine, Do you have any idea where in Ireland your LEAHYs were from? I have LEAHYs from County Limerick, one of whom went to the Warwick area of QLD, but I am having no luck finding them in Ireland. Cheers, Joanne Mitchell Geelong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Egan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] LEAHY > Looking for information on LEAHY. Daniel LEAHY was a Royal Irish constable and married Catherine NASH about 1892. Emigrated to AUSTRALIA approx 1909 on "CARPENTARIA" settled in BRISBANE Q. Anyone out there? Lorraine LEAHY EGAN. > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks Peter > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Looking for information on LEAHY. Daniel LEAHY was a Royal Irish constable and married Catherine NASH about 1892. Emigrated to AUSTRALIA approx 1909 on "CARPENTARIA" settled in BRISBANE Q. Anyone out there? Lorraine LEAHY EGAN.

I am looking for information on Arthur Johnston who emigrated to Australia from Belfast, Northern Ireland in circa 1923. He settled in Port Piri. He was one of 11 children and his father was Francis Johnston and his mother was Sarah Johnston (nee Baxter). His 10 siblings, including my grandfather, settled in South Africa. Thank you. Derek Johnston

I am looking for information about two Corless (Corliss) brothers who emigrated to Australia from Rosscahill, Killannin, Galway some time in the middle of the nineteenth century. Probably in the period 1850 to 1865. They were the sons of Michael and Bridget Corless (Corliss). They had a brother John who emigrated to the U.S. (Boston) in 1865 and a brother Patrick whose widow and children also emigrated to Boston, Mass. in 1869. Patricia

Hi Charmaine, Just checked one of the certificates I have - John Connelly (born around 1829) m. Margaret Campbell in Stirling 1858. John's parents were noted as Charles Connelly and Bridget Sullivan. Do these names ring a bell? Cheers, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > Hi Karen > > John Connelly seems to be a popular name. I have a John born in Ireland in > 1816, but his children don't match those that you have listed. But who > knows they could be cousins! I have that on the other side of the family, > where there were several cousins by the same name. > > Keep in touch and let me know when you fnd out what part of Ireland they > were from. I've only just started researching that side of the family and > my aunt in Scotland has done all the leg work so far so I am waiting on > further info from her. Although I think she is leaving the Irish side to > me! > > Charmaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Semken" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > > > > Hi Jackie, Charmaine, > > > > Not sure if I've been in contact with either of you before - but in case I > > haven't here are my Connelly connections. Let me know if anything sounds > > familiar. > > > > Mary Connelly (my mum) b. 1943 > > > > Her father - Charles Eric Connelly b.1901, London (brothers John Davis > > b.1893 Melbourne, Norman born UK? & Edward born Brunswick, 1905). > > > > His father - Patrick Alan Connelly, born 1859 Stirling Scotland, (brother > > John & Sister Mary, both born in Stirling), died in Melbourne. > > > > His father - John Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) > > His father - Charles Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) > > > > Regards, Karen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > Hi Jackie > > > > > > Where are your Connelly's from? My maiden name was Connelly. My > > immediate > > > relatives were from Scotland, but I have a John Connelly born in 1816 in > > > Ireland, don't know what part at this stage, or any other details about > > him. > > > > > > Charmaine > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Boss" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:09 AM > > > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there list, > > > > Here is a list of surnames I am researching: > > > > > > > > Callaghan > > > > Connelly , Connolly or Conolly > > > > Faherty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks > > Peter > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > > > http://www.sierrahome.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > > http://www.sierrahome.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am interest in John MacCarthy and his family from Fethard, Tipperary, Ireland who migrated to Australia sometime between 1884 & 1895. They are not listed as assisted migrants on the NSW State records site. Most of the family seemed to have stayed in NSW though I have a couple in Victoria and one in Tasmania. Any connections Marge [email protected] Perth Western Australia see my Family Names at http://www.wags.org.au/mid/8134.htm I do not accept emails with attachments from anyone without prior knowledge . ______________________________

hi there, Im looking for a William Dain WALLIS lived in Casino NSW around 1930's 1940's . He ran 2 hotels. He might have married a lady eather last name being FAHERTY or STEWART...or even CONNOLLY. Is this William in your tree???? Thank You! jackie

Hi List, Hoping that some one can help with some info. In Casino, NSW some time around 1930's to 1940's, there where two hotels, both owned by the same man. Does anyone know if his name was Wallace Stewart??? Many Thanks, Jackie.

Sorry notmy line. Thank you Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Clarke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Roche from Co. Cork to Australia > Hi Jan, > I have only just joined the AUS-IRISH site and in reading the messages I came across your request for information on Roche. > My GGGGrandfather Seward Large Clerke came out to Australia with a brother and a sister around 1850. His mother was Sophia Roche and father John Bennet Clerke, from CO Cork. > Is this any help to you? > > Regards > Lynne > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > >>"A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour."<< > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Jan, I have only just joined the AUS-IRISH site and in reading the messages I came across your request for information on Roche. My GGGGrandfather Seward Large Clerke came out to Australia with a brother and a sister around 1850. His mother was Sophia Roche and father John Bennet Clerke, from CO Cork. Is this any help to you? Regards Lynne

www.Legacy\Web\blair-moor\Index.htm Tyrone to Australia. Over 800 Names.Jim

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Thomas Blair M. Eliza Moor son John born Cookstown TYR. 1813 M. Martha ANN McClelland about 1833. Any info please. Jim

Hi Karen John Connelly seems to be a popular name. I have a John born in Ireland in 1816, but his children don't match those that you have listed. But who knows they could be cousins! I have that on the other side of the family, where there were several cousins by the same name. Keep in touch and let me know when you fnd out what part of Ireland they were from. I've only just started researching that side of the family and my aunt in Scotland has done all the leg work so far so I am waiting on further info from her. Although I think she is leaving the Irish side to me! Charmaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Semken" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Connelly > Hi Jackie, Charmaine, > > Not sure if I've been in contact with either of you before - but in case I > haven't here are my Connelly connections. Let me know if anything sounds > familiar. > > Mary Connelly (my mum) b. 1943 > > Her father - Charles Eric Connelly b.1901, London (brothers John Davis > b.1893 Melbourne, Norman born UK? & Edward born Brunswick, 1905). > > His father - Patrick Alan Connelly, born 1859 Stirling Scotland, (brother > John & Sister Mary, both born in Stirling), died in Melbourne. > > His father - John Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) > His father - Charles Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) > > Regards, Karen > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:16 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > Hi Jackie > > > > Where are your Connelly's from? My maiden name was Connelly. My > immediate > > relatives were from Scotland, but I have a John Connelly born in 1816 in > > Ireland, don't know what part at this stage, or any other details about > him. > > > > Charmaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Boss" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:09 AM > > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there list, > > > Here is a list of surnames I am researching: > > > > > > Callaghan > > > Connelly , Connolly or Conolly > > > Faherty > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks > Peter > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > > http://www.sierrahome.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > http://www.sierrahome.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Jackie, Charmaine, Not sure if I've been in contact with either of you before - but in case I haven't here are my Connelly connections. Let me know if anything sounds familiar. Mary Connelly (my mum) b. 1943 Her father - Charles Eric Connelly b.1901, London (brothers John Davis b.1893 Melbourne, Norman born UK? & Edward born Brunswick, 1905). His father - Patrick Alan Connelly, born 1859 Stirling Scotland, (brother John & Sister Mary, both born in Stirling), died in Melbourne. His father - John Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) His father - Charles Connelly - believe born in Ireland (but unconfirmed) Regards, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charmaine Maher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > Hi Jackie > > Where are your Connelly's from? My maiden name was Connelly. My immediate > relatives were from Scotland, but I have a John Connelly born in 1816 in > Ireland, don't know what part at this stage, or any other details about him. > > Charmaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boss" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:09 AM > Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Listing Surnames > > > > > > > > > > Hi there list, > > Here is a list of surnames I am researching: > > > > Callaghan > > Connelly , Connolly or Conolly > > Faherty > > > > > > > > many thanks > > jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks Peter > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > http://www.sierrahome.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

James Henry SHERAR B.1868 vic. M.Mary Elizabeth ROBINS B. 1868 N.Z. Daughter of Joseph Thomas ROBINS. Any connection. Jim

Hi all I have asked this before, but your answers were deleted recently when we had that virus scare and my husband 'cleaned' the email folders. 1 Joseph BURKE . +Fannie CANNIFFE / CONNIFFE ...... 2 Kate BURKE .......... +Peter MADDEN .............. 3 Mary MADDEN (AKA): 23 April 1893 Presentation Order - Sister Patrick (Mother) {Record number 3950} Born: 1875 Galway, Ireland Died: 24 April 1962 Buried: Nudgee Cemetery, Qld, Aust ...... 2 Agnes BURKE (AKA): 9 July 1884 Presentation Order - Sister Alphonsus {Record number 3925} Born: 1860 Galway, Ireland Died: 11 August 1946 Buried: Young, NSW, Aust >From the "Nuns in Australia" webpage http://www.stbedes.melb.catholic.edu.au/home/br/ I was able to determine that they were both from the PBVM order centre of Wagga. I know they were both in Longreach in 1900. I am interested in the MADDEN connection and whether they are related to my MADDEN families. Query - where do I go from here to find out more on these two ladies, please. Thank you Lorrae Johnson Plainland Qld 4341 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=helmrich