-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [otrcdme-omicron] life's instructions Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:46:15 -0000 From: "harveymarkfield" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully. Memorize your favorite poem. Don't believe all you hear. When you say, "I love you", mean it. When you say, "I'm sorry", look the person in the eye. Be engaged at least six months before you get married. Believe in love at first sight. Never laugh at anyone's dreams. Love deeply and passionately... You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life completely. In disagreements, fight fairly, No name calling. When someone asks you a question you don't want to answer, smile and ask, "Why do you want to know?" Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk. Call your mom. Say "bless you" when you hear someone sneeze. When you lose, don't lose the lesson. Remember the three R's: Respect for self; Respect for others; Responsibility for all your actions. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct it. Smile when picking up the phone, The caller will hear it in your voice. Marry a man/woman you love to talk to. As you get older, their conversational skills will be as important as any other. Tell your signifigant other once a day, how much they mean to you. Treat other's the way you want to be treated! Harv ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Access Your PC from Anywhere Full setup in 2 minutes! - Free Download http://us.click.yahoo.com/MxtVhB/2XkDAA/_ZuFAA/smTrlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Re: [CLARE] Irish ancestors Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:57:39 +0200 From: "Michael O'Connor" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Michael O'Connor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> CC: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Hi folks, I do not know on which list Sharon Carberry posted this message which I have snipped to repost : > Sharon Carberry wrote: > In the new and excellent book entitled Discovering Your Irish Ancestors, by Dwight A. Radford >and Kyle J. Betit, published by Betterway Books, Cincinatti OH, 2001, there is a photograph of a >printed page from an 1824 voters list for the Barony of Bunratty (East Clare) from the Co. Clare >Crown and Peace Office. I do not know what this office was and would certainly like more info > on it, but the authors state the material is at the National Archives, followed by these numbers: >1D/40/37 > I list below exactly what appears on the page. > Freeholder/Place of Abode/Situation of Freehold/Name of Landlord/ Names of Lives or other >tenure > > Michael Connors/Gaurns/Gaurns > > E.S. Hickman/J. Fitzgerald and Matthias McMahon > > Patrick Connors/Gaurns/Gaurns > > E.S. Hickman/J. Fitzgerald, Matthias McMahon As I feel that the two CONNORS/CONNOR/O'CONNOR names mentioned as being at "Gaurns" (probably Gaurus) are my great great grandfather's brothers, I would be interested to know what the headings mean and would be grateful if somebody would/could please enlighten me as to what the headings mean especially the "Names of Lives or other tenure" Many thanks Mike O'Connor Pietermaritzburg South Africa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Apology.....apology........apology.....................All right, I'm sorry. I goofed.....After the squabble last month when companies tried to infiltrate us with their commercial messages, I changed the settings to block them in future, but unwittingly, also set the list to block you as well, (dumb!) I know! That has now been changed....and I have found, as I have several lists, that there have been some interesting messages appearing on other lists, so when I find any in future, with your consent, I'll also post them to you on this list. Likewise if you find any message on another list that you think may help someone on the list, feel free to post it, but be sure that it is not a commercial, or a virus hoax first, please. Bye for now. The various Bev's on the List can now line up to hand out their forms of justice to me. Jim

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: MARKEY from Co. Meath to Victoria to NZ Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 04:55:01 -0700 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:27:07 GMT From: [email protected] (John Woods) Organization: iNET To: [email protected] Catherine MARKEY born about 1855 Co. Meath (locality unknown), Ireland, migrated about 1873 to Victoria, Australia. She stayed there for one or two years then migrated to the West Coast of New Zealand. She was a Roman Catholic. She married in 1876 James WALLACE, from Antrim, Ireland (not sure if this is the town of the county). They had a large family, settling in Okarito. Her sister married a FitzSIMMONS, probably in Victoria. Anybody know more about this family, especially the early days in Ireland and Victoria? ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== Searchable archives http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GENANZ

Hi All and Patricia, I was vey interested to read Patricia reasons for tranpotartion and interested as to her source material for her 'apparent fact' as to property interests of the sentencing magistrates. I could not find any references to such in Professor Shaw's "Convicts and the Colonies. A study of Penal Transportation from Great Britain & Ireland to Australia & other parts of the British Empire' or in L.L.Robinson 'The Convicts Settlers of Australia. An Enquiry into the Orign and Character of the Convicts transported to New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land 1787 - 1852.' So this is a line of research I would like to follow up. Hope you can oblige Terry

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] St. Patrick's Day Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 22:47:11 -0500 From: Donna Brown <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Hi Folks, Here in Boston, the 17th of March is St. Patrick's Day AND Evacuation Day (the day the Brits were sent away). As a result, it is an actual county holiday. Everything is green--beer, sweets, hair, etc. Boston has a large parade (although in recent years it has been staged on the week-end closest to the holiday.) Irish bands abound; corned beef is always the special in the supermarket; corned beef and cabbage (or Irishman's turkey as my grandmother called it) is on every menu; and every bakery in the state has Irish soda bread. Irish bands are everywhere and usually there are lots of parties (often with a wee bit of Jameson's). When we were little, we always awoke on St. Patrick's Day to the sound of my mother playing the piano and singing, "Potatoes and fish are a very good dish for St. Patrick's Day in the morning." Donna Daley Brown Bryantville, MA ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Y-IRL]a sad long reply to: Reasons for transportation? Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 22:45:12 +1100 From: Patricia Jungwirth <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Hi, this is an intuitive reply - from Australia - there were many reasons for transportation - couldn't get away with the death sentence? - some were actually for real criminal offences - others - maybe we wouldn't call them criminal these days?? did you know that it is an apparent fact that some of the sentencing magistrates in England - Ireland had property interests in Tasmania and maybe elsewhere?- and when a "suitable" criminal came before them - this suitable criminal - who had perhaps been charged with maybe a rather trivial offence - an offence all the same - but had shown a high level of skill in say farm management/harvesting etc. - would find himself transported to the colonies - where he would be promptly engaged as a convict labourer in the charge of a business associate of the magistrate that issued the transportation sentence... but I do carry on - there's more... practices that we may perhaps call these days unionism - were most likely quashed big-time way back when - it was not in the interests of govt.or landowners to have the labourers thinking that they could perhaps withhold their labour or leave a job - slavery as such was banned - but the economic hold of govt./landlords in many cases amounted to that of the slave-owners - and any folk that thought they would perhaps encourage other folk to leave the employ of a nasty or otherwise (remember that political objectives existed) so and so - were often treated like any other criminal - crimes roughly being threats to property - and the withholding of labour would certainly be a threat to property? anyhow - it saddens me much to note that for an increasing number of Australians - and I expect folk elsewhere - we are creeping back to those days - when threats, govt. policy and lack of opportunity are reducing folk to the near slave existance - sure the beatings, rapes, murders have declined - but have a look around - have things really changed - yes - we have modern communications, transport, education, and medicine - and most of us can now vote - so of-course we are superior or better off than the old folk of days gone - but as I eluded earlier - some of these marvels of technology actually improve the opportunities for our own advancement and enslavement simultaneously - imagine the tycoon that could at some time past - holidaying at his remote resort in say Galway - not a "worry in the world" - a day or two before any news could reach him - for it was certainly a male - nowadays his holiday has the benefit of the mobile phone - he is in constant contact with his office - and the office with him - sure he can keep an eye on things - but is it a holiday?? and what of the labourer that had to stop work when the sun-set - nowadays electricity enables him to have a second job - working all through the night - or atleast work extended overtime hours.. and computers allow office folk to do many more unpaid hours of overtime from their keyboard at home.. so this isn't the reply I should supply? and I don't know about Ribbonism - but what about the crime of Whiteboyism - men dressing up in sheets? klukluxklan style and terrorising farmers, labourers and others - or at least pasting notices to posts and walls - and what about the tragedy of all the incarcerated that never left alive the exquisitely named prison SPIKE ISLAND... there's misery then and now.. and that's just our sophisticated world ... good luck Robert p.s. I feel sure a google search will supply the URL of a very informative site that covers many of the union/political movements in the early days of Ireland - I can't seem to find the address at the moment - no wonder you may say - I'm blinded by the tears of rage and sorrow... or that big chip on my shoulder ... probably the big chip - it seems to me that we don't have to carry the old hatreds - forgive and be forgiven - but do not forget or be unaware that for some life was hell - and maybe transportation or immigration was a blessed relief.. Australian history is full of stories of Irish folk that were happy and flourished in Australia - away from the Irish sorrow - for some it may have been an escape from their own misery - for others - an escape from seeing the misery of others?? transportation or immigration - wasn't always bad news... goodnight. At 06:46 PM 5/03/02 -0000, you wrote: >Hi all, > I was just looking at the transportation archive, (link in the >Bookmarks) and the two Mcgrath's from tipperary on the list had the >reason given as: Attempting to compell to quit. So what does that >mean? Family legend has it that some of my GGrandmother McGraths >family was transported for anti british/landlord activities, and this >sounds like it would be that kind of offense, but then again maybe >not. > Also in the idle curiosity department, there is someone on the >transport list for Ribbonism. What the heck is that? Thanks all, Jim > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >[email protected] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Griffith's Valuation of Ireland Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:39:58 -0800 From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: ConnorsGenealogy To: Y-Irl mailing list <[email protected]> I've decided to send about three civil parishes a day until I get the whole county Leitrim posted to the Y-Irl. Jane, if you want you can put it in our files for future use. For those, like Cassandra, who doesn't understand the importance of the GV, here is the statement off the index cd: Since no Irish census of the nineteenth century has survived, Griffith's Valuation is a record of extreme importance. It is, essentially, the only detailed guide to where in Ireland people lived during the mid-nineteenth century and what property they possessed. In effect, Griffith's Valuation can be used as a census substitute for the years before, during, and after the Great Famine. Few other records can be used to identity an Irish ancestor's exact place of origin, and only Griffith's Valuation links an individual to a specific townland and civil parish. This information is very beneficial since identifying an ancestor's townland and civil parish is the first step in Irish genealogical research. Hope this helps, Cassandra. PS I have put the GV and civil parish in the subject so you can delete if you don't need the info. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Biography of Michael DOLAN, County Leitrim Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:17:53 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] MICHAEL J. DOLAN July 14, 1853 - May 12, 1927 Michael J. Dolan was born July 14, 1853 in Kiltyclogher, Cloonclare Parish, County Leitrim and became a fine example of the Irish American spirit. Michael was born to James Dolan and Marie Gordon, in Kiltyclogher, the seventh of nine children . He immigrated to the United States in 1874 at the age of 21, settling first in Scranton, Pennsylvania, joining five siblings who had immigrated before him. The Dolan’s resided in the predominantly Irish Seventh Ward in Scranton, known as Sandy Banks, on the banks of the Lackawanna River. In early Scranton City Directories Michael was listed as a Bricklayer/Stonemason, as were his brothers. He remained in the building profession his entire life. Soon after immigrating, he went west to Yankton, The Dakota Territories. Was he lured to The Dakota Territories because of the discovery of gold in the mid 1870’s in the Black Hills or, the earlier Homestead Act of 1862 which gave to every man and woman 160 acres for the price of $18.00. Perhaps it was a simpler desire to help build the West. In 1880 he became a naturalized American citizen and in 1901 he moved farther west to Denver Colorado. In 1872, the Dakota Southern Railroad reached Yankton, making the eastern half of the territory more attractive and accessible to folks looking for free land. It also permitted Michael Dolan to travel there. If a person wanted to travel further west they went by steamship, wagon train or stage coach. During the 1870’s the Sioux Indians were still conducting raids, disrupting railroad traffic and causing settlers to abandon their land claims and return East. He apparently was not daunted by traveling as he returned east to Scranton at least once in the late 1870’s to act as Godfather to a child of his brother, Frank. In Yankton he met and married Mary Jane Morrison, also of Irish descent. The marriage took place at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in 1881 and they later became parents of five children, all born in Yankton. He and Mary Jane became the parents of five children. The church supplied our first clue as to Michael’s county of birth, recorded on their marriage license as County Leitrim, Hibernia. When Michael’s brother, Frank, died in Scranton in 1902, his obituary listed Kiltyclogher as his place of birth. According to his obituary in both the Rocky Mountain News and The Denver Post on 5-12-1927: Michael J. Dolan Dies at Home of Heart Attack For many years Michael DOLAN was employed by the United States Government and supervised the building of government schools for Indians throughout the Western United States. At the time of his death in 1927, at the age of 75, he had been managing the Denver office of his son, James’ mining and railroad supply business. Submitted by Mary L. CASEY, grandniece of Michael J. DOLAN ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Meehan To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: Leitrim - Some History A chairde, Some history on our current chosen County... Leitrim came into "official" existence in the mid-1580s, when the English authorities carved up Breifne O'Rourke. At that time, O'Rourke was probably feared as much as Hugh O'Neill or Hugh O'Donnell - and he was closer to the English. Breifne had historically been divided between Breifne O'Rourke (West) and Breifne O'Reilly. The modern counties which had been part of Breifne O'Rourke would be Leitrim, Sligo, Roscommon, part of Mayo, and part of Galway. For the most part, the O'Rourkes were traditional allies of the O'Donnells. The O'Rourke was the last Gaelic Chief to submit to the English in the early 1600s. Breifne O'Reilly would consist mainly of Cavan and Meath. The O'Reillys had submitted early on to the English, but had been double-crossed. There had been two townlands which had always been under dispute between O'Rourke and O'reilly. They were Tullyhaw and Tullyhunco. When O'Reilly made his "surrender and regrant", under Elizabeth, he was awarded the rights to these townlands. Yet, later, when O'Rourke was being recruited in the Composition of Connaught in 1585, the documents stated that those townlands would be under the authority of O'Rourke. The Land in Leitrim is considered to be the least profitable in ireland for farming. Yet it is also placed in a very strategic location, which makes it a very important area to control. It is the key to transportation between Leinster, Connaught, and Ulster. Because of is central location, it has also - over the ages - led to alliances between its leaders and the most admired figures in irish History. Leitrim was targeted for plantation by the English - in large part because of these considerations. Yet, its poor farming potential made plantation a difficult proposition to sell to English and Scottish planters. Perhaps the most infamous of the planters of Leitrim was Sir Frederick Hamilton, who built his fortified castle in the town that today bears his name - Manorhamilton. Sir Frederick's immediate ancestors had been Scottish Catholics allied to the Catholic Queen Mary. After her death, they experienced some difficult times, but many became Protestant and their fortunes improved. It was fairly common for younger sons of affluent families to be given estates in Ireland, as happened with Sir Frederick. (Frederick had spent some of his youth in the army serving in Europe.) He is believed to have built his castle in the early 1630s. His tenure in Leitrim was filled with the most blood-curdling examples of terror and cruelty. His custom was to hang at least one local in front of his castle each day "preferably a popish priest or a local chief"! His commemoration of Christmas one year consisted of invading a convent of nuns and burning it to the ground - while hanging the survivors in front of his castle on Christmas day. He made a similar example of a monastery of Franciscans in another year. During the Rising of 1641, the locals received support from the army of Owen Roe O'Neill, and the legendary Myles "The Slasher" O'Reilly. They stormed his castle and sought to capture the miscreant and his underlings. Owen Roe O'Neill gave an order that women and children were to be released unharmed. Sir Frederick, who was apparently small in stature, disguised himself as a woman and slipped out of the castle, escaping eventually back to Scotland. Many of the local families lost their lands several times in the 1600s. The first such losses occured during the confiscations which took place under Elizabeth and James I. However, many of these were offered back - especially those which were difficult to sell to planters - in exchange for money given to assist Charles I in his financial crises. The return of these lands to Catholics were called his "Graces". After the defeat of the Confederation of Kilkenny, the lands of those who had opposed the Puritans of Cromwell were again seized and given mostly to Cromwell's soldiers, or to foreign English investors called "adventurers". But, after Cromwell's death and restoration of Charles II, the lands could be reclaimed with a simple oath of loyalty to Charles II. This was mostly an acknowledgement by Charles II of gratitude to the Irish Catholics who had taken the side of his father against Cromwell (his father's executioner). While many of these lands were again becoming consolidated under the returning chieftains, Charles II died leaving a Catholic heir - James II in 1685. The English, who were now solidly Protestant, feared any new religious upheaval. The Anglicans were much less extreme in their fear of Catholics than the remaining Puritans, but they feared the potential sectarian problems that could result from renewed religious discord. Some decided to back the husband of James II's daughter Mary, William of Orange, a Dutch Prince. The result was the War between Kings, which again dispossessed the Irish people of Leitrim. Men from Leitrim have continued to play prominent roles in Irish history. Some of the prominent families which trace their origins to this county are: O'Rourke, Reynolds, Johnston, McDermott, Meehan, O'Duignean. Phillip Meehan is recognized as the first martyr of Land Reform. Sean McDiarmada was ahero of the Easter Rising. The first election in which Sinn Fein competed was in North Leitrim in 1908. In that election, Francis Edward Meehan (Irish Parliamentary Party) defeated Charles Dolan (Sinn Fein). I hope some of the above will be of interest. Siochain, Ted Meehan

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Ireland - Christian Name Synonyms Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:54:45 -0700 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:32:24 +1100 From: Mary Beaumont <[email protected]> Organization: Client of Alphalink Australia Pty. Ltd. To: [email protected] References: <[email protected]> Fancy them forgetting about Dilly for Bridget and Rory /Rody for Rodger / Roger Mary Mike Stand wrote: > > Here is a page of names which lists, for example,those applied to both male > and females. Its source:"Official Varieties and Synonymes of Surnams and > Christian Names in Ireland for the Guidance of Registration Officers and the > Public in Searching the Indexes of Births, Deaths, and Marriages," by Robert > E. Matheson. Chapter IV, Christian Names. > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4031/Cnames.html -- Mary Beaumont. To reply, remove the "nospam". ==== GENANZ Mailing List ==== Threaded archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/GENANZ

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Y-IRL] Re: Water Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:36:19 +0200 From: "Michael O'Connor" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Michael O'Connor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> CC: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> John, I humbly submit that you are confusing two diseases. Your relating typhus to water suggests that you are confusing TYPHOID fever (which may be, and often is, waterbourne) with TYPHUS fever which is insect (lice) bourne. Typhoid is caused by a salmonella (bacteria) whilst typhus is caused by a rickettsia Keep well and kind regards Mike O'Connor Pietermaritzburg South Africa ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Fenagh RC parish records - Leitrim Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:26:09 -0000 From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> National Library of Ireland film number 4239 Latter Day Saints film reference : BFA 1279223 Items 1-3 Fenagh RC Parish Baptisms June 5th 1825 - Oct 13th 1829 Script is clear: Child's name, parents, sponsors. The last entries on any line and the ends of the pages are shaded, which can make it difficult to read the spellings. The entries are in English There are some entries for 1841 just after the 1829 entries - two or three pages, the script on those is spidery and more difficult to read than the earlier entries. Baptisms Nov 24th 1834 - April 12th 1843 follows the few pages of 1841 entries. These baptisms are in Latin, the writing is generally legible through the ten years. In parts the ink is faded. Baptisms : June 5th 1843 - Nov 4th 1852 Marriages: Oct 4th 1826 - Feb 18th 1832 Marriages Jan 15th 1835 - March 22nd 1842 Deaths June 1825 - Feb 21st 1832 Deaths Nov 24th 1834 - Dec 21st 1841 These entries are in Latin. The whole set of records is variable in that some pages are reasonably easy to read and others are almost impossible, either due to the script, the ink or the fact that they are in Latin. The death entries are all single lines, in Latin. The townlands are not named, only dates, names and surnames for this section of the parish records. Baptisms Nov 22nd 1852- Dec 9th 1880 Marriages: Jan 17th 1844 - Feb 9th 1880 These records are in English, the townland is named, the entries are spaced. There is an index to the Baptismal register for this parish, following on the parish records themselves as on the film. It is handwritten, single line entries, with the year of the baptism given for each name. Again, it is faded in spots and the writing can be difficult to read. The edges and ends of the pages are either shaded or faded. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Proclamation for Co. Leitrim-1823 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:22:47 -0600 From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Connaught Journal Galway, Thursday, September 25, 1823 By the Lord Lieutenant General and General Governor of Ireland A PROCLAMATION WELLESLEY. WHEREAS it is expedient that Constables should be appointed in and for the County of Leitrim, under and according to the provisions of an Act passed in the last Session of Parliament, entitled, "An Act for the appointment of Constables, and to secure the effectual performance of the Duties of their Office, and for the Appointment of Magistrates in Ireland in certain Cases." Now we, the Lord Lieutenant General and General Governor of Ireland, in pursuance and execution of the power in that behalf vested in us by the said Act of Parliament, do hereby require the Magistrates in the Commission of the Peace for the said County of Leitrim, to assemble, on Friday the seventeenth day of October, One thousand eight hundred and twenty-three in the County Court house , at Carrick-on-Shannon, being the Assize Town of said County of Leitrim, and there, ten at least of the said Magistrates being present, to nominate ninety-six Constables in and for the said County of Leitrim, being after the rate of sixteen for each Barony, to be stationed in and thro' the several Baronies within the Said Co. of Leitrim. Given at his Majesty's Castle of Dublin, this 22d day of September, 1823. By his Excellency's command. HENRY GOULBURN Cathy Joynt Labath Abstracts from Irish Newspapers http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/Ireland/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Water Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:44:40 -0700 From: "Andy Airriess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> We in Utah, USA have been experiencing a drought the last 4 years, and this looks like our 5th. Although we got 4 inches of snow (87 meters) yesterday, and usually get 19 inches of water (mix of melted snow and rain) a year, we have only received 75% of our annual totals the last four years. Our lows in the winter range from 0 F (-137 C) and the highs to about 100 in the summer (8,372 C), although we only get about six 100 degree days a year. The air is very dry here, so we don't notice the extreme heat and cold as much as many places do. Our altitude here near Salt Lake City is 4,125 ft (3.4 mm) but there are mountains nearby that rise to 11,000 feet and they often receive over 700 inches (56.2 euros) of snow a year. Whenever the weather gets me down, I like to go to the Family History Library ( 2.3731 GROs). You know, the metric system is not very hard once you apply yourself to learning it, I don't know why Americans are so hesitant. Andy Airriess West Jordan, Utah To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Water in Australia Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:31:13 -0500 From: "debbie schaeffer" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] When we first got to Woomera, South Australia in 1977, we thought it would be a good experience living in the 'Australian Housing'. They were quick built houses with tin roofs, stood above the ground. Well, we turned the water on and the dirtiest, smelliest fluid came out. We drank soda for a long time, until we got a filter. Our water was piped from the Murry River for about 300 miles. They figured going that distance in the heat would sterilize it. Debbie S. Helen Keller wrote, "As dark as my path may seem to others, I carry a magic light in my heart." _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Splish splosh : Re: [Y-IRL] Water in Ireland Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:33:30 -0000 From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, "Ben Palmer" <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> I've found this water thread to be fascinating and educating ( from a few angles) and I never really thought we'd have so many mails about it...........and I'm here saying - this thread has to be put up in the groups files when I get round to it! Ben's made me smile I have to say and I'll have to think of some other word instead of lurker ;-) I remembered the barrels of rainwater earlier today - almost every house had one, and even when they had running water they still had a barrel......... you washed your hair in rain water if you wanted it to be at it's best - and once they had running water then that's why they kept those barrels in place..........*but* only in places where the water was or is soft...........some counties, the water has so much limestone in it, it's horrible................the taste of something like tea can be affected by the water in the locality. As for the running water in houses - I know of lots of places with no running water, there's a house down in Glengarriff in west Cork where the water source was a local stream and a pipe lay in that stream to bring the water to the house - many's a time I've been out traipsing up the stream to find maybe where the cattle had disturbed the pipe and we were without water............. and there was the time that the filter disappeared and we found little fish in the sink!! Regularly, an underground spring would spring into the house - I remember once waking up to find my 2-3 yr old singing 'splish splosh' and her out in the kitchen in her wellies splashing away in the flood!! The problem with local development and the affect on groundwater is very obvious in some places - few think of this kind of thing, here in Dublin we have one conservation area - Booterstown Marsh - a Bird reserve, but really protected because of the fact that it's the farthest point south that one plant is found.......... Booterstown marsh has a spring - or had. Development in this part of Dublin has resulted in groundwater dissipating..............streams have dried up and so has this spring. Most homes in areas such as Inishowen and Glengarriff will have a well and it's from there that they get their water. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Palmer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: [Y-IRL] Water in Ireland > Jane, > > A Lurker .. what .. me? > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] Leitrim and Oiche na Gaoithe Mór (Big Wind - storm) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:11:06 -0000 From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> From: Drogheda Journal: Newspaper At Carrick on Shannon several houses were blown down, others stripped of their roofs. The produce of the harvest lies scattered over the whole face of the surrounding county. At Mohill, the dispensary and RC chapel were a good deal injured. Mr. William Blake of Farnaght, had a range of offices lately built blown down, two heifers killled and a corn mill completely unroofed. Tipperary Constitution: Newspaper About 50 housess blown down (Drumsna) between this town and Elphin, immense destruction of property, especialy amongst the plantations ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Y-IRL] The night of the big storm.............. Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:09:58 -0000 From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Given that we have been talking about water and I know that on many lists I have seen queries about this storm over the years, I think maybe now is a good time to introduce it to the group - and the county pieces >From the Dublin Evening Post, January 8th 1839. "The Annals of Ireland do not furnish anything in the remotest degree parralel to this hurricane - nor has there ever been a visitation in this country, attended with more tremendous, extensive, and calamitous consequences" "The night of Sunday, the sixth of January 1839 was a night of madness. Ireland was hit by what was possibly the most cataclysmic storm to strike the country in the last 600 years. It killed, maimed and ruined, threatening to sweep every obsctacle before it fomr the surface of the earth. Ireland has been the chief victim of a hurricane, every part of Ireland - every field, every town, every village in Ireland, have felt it's dire effects from Galway to Dublin - from the Giant's Causeway to the island of Valencia. It has been, we repeat it, the most awful, the most extraordinary calamity of the kind with which a people were ever afflicted. The damage which it has done is almost beyond calculation. Several hundreds of thoussands of trees have been levelled to the ground. More than half a century must elapse, before Ireland, in this regard, presents the appearance she did last Summmer. The loss of farming stock, of all kinds has been terrible. Many of the most thrifty and industrious husbend men, whose haggards and homesteasds were filled with unthreshed corn on Sunday night, found themselves without a sheaf of grain in the morning. The poor, of course, as being the most numerous, have been the greatest suffereers. Tens of thousands of their wrteched cabins have been swept away or unroofed, and many as we have seen, have become a prey to the flames. on the whole, however, there has not been as great a loss of life as might have been anticipated. But the destitution to which they are reduced, must quicken the operation of the Poor Laws. In Cork, we perceive, that the citizens have already adopted active measures, with immediately forming a Union in that city. A similar meeting has been held in Limerick, and we doubt not the example willl be followed in other places. We dare not call this hurricane a phenomenon, however rare or unprecedented it's occurrence in so temperate a climate. But, it will nevertheless, become a study to our meteorologists. Trees, ten, or twelve miles from the sea were covered witrh salt brine, and in the very centre of the island, forty or fifty miles inland, such vegetable matter as it occurred to individuals to test, had universally a saline taste. The surges of the sea, therefore, must have been whipped up, and whirled hundreds of miles inland. Such, in a word was teh fury of the storm, that, had it lasted six hours longer, it is not houses that would have been prostrated, but streets and towns levelled with the dust." If I remember correctly, this particular storm is mentioned at least once in Cathy Joynt Labaths Connaught Journal Abstracts..........the piece I remember was on the herring fishery and the impact of the storm on it............ Ireland Newspaper Abstracts http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/Ireland/ Jane ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/dvArlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Spamming a list the way you have is unethical and I hope you get all the business you deserve NIL