Hi Elaine That's a good idea - I hadn't thought of that! I know of one of my families where I can do the same thing. Thanks for the suggestion. Happy hunting Judy > Elaine Smith <easmith@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Judy > Thanks for your reply - I am having so much trouble with this > particular > family - due to the lack of Irish records available for the years Im > looking - i might try a search on the 1851 / 1861 census for england > and see > if anything comes up. > Regards > Elaine Smith > Bethania Qld Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Dickinson" <dickos4@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] JAMIESON > > > > Hi Elaine > > > > I'm no expert, but from several e-mails I've read on this list, > many Irish > people > > travelled from their homeland to the mainland of Britain, whether > specifically > > to "catch a boat", or perhaps to try to find work there, and > afterwards > "catching a > > boat" to another country. > > > > I've been given that advice myself in relation to one of our Irish > families. > > > > Someone else on the list may be able to further enlighten you! > > > > Happy hunting > > Judy Dickinson > > > > > > > Elaine Smith <easmith@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all > > > This may sound a little silly, but hoping some one may be able to > > > give me an idea- > > > I have Alexander Jamieson who according to his Qld marriage > > > certificate was born in Bangor Down Ireland, He arrived here in > 1869 > > > on the Young Australia, but according to ship info this ship > sailed > > > from London to Brisbane. > > > Would he have travelled from Ireland to England to catch the boat > so > > > to speak or could he have been living in London prior to this?? > any > > > help would be appreciated > > > Thankyou in advance > > > Elaine Smith > > > Bethania Qld Australia > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" > thanks > > > Peter > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > <Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narret qui accepit.> > > May he who does a good deed be quiet; may he who receives it tell > about > it. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > >>"A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a > detour."<< > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Elaine I'm no expert, but from several e-mails I've read on this list, many Irish people travelled from their homeland to the mainland of Britain, whether specifically to "catch a boat", or perhaps to try to find work there, and afterwards "catching a boat" to another country. I've been given that advice myself in relation to one of our Irish families. Someone else on the list may be able to further enlighten you! Happy hunting Judy Dickinson > Elaine Smith <easmith@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi all > This may sound a little silly, but hoping some one may be able to > give me an idea- > I have Alexander Jamieson who according to his Qld marriage > certificate was born in Bangor Down Ireland, He arrived here in 1869 > on the Young Australia, but according to ship info this ship sailed > from London to Brisbane. > Would he have travelled from Ireland to England to catch the boat so > to speak or could he have been living in London prior to this?? any > help would be appreciated > Thankyou in advance > Elaine Smith > Bethania Qld Australia > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks > Peter > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Judy You are welcome Elaine Smith Bethania Qld Australia

My Thomas Gleeson was born in 1861 so it could not be your Thomas as he would haver been 64 in 1925. Do you have any idea who the parents of your Thomas Gleeson? Thank you. Regards, Des Skelly

Hi Judy Thanks for your reply - I am having so much trouble with this particular family - due to the lack of Irish records available for the years Im looking - i might try a search on the 1851 / 1861 census for england and see if anything comes up. Regards Elaine Smith Bethania Qld Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Dickinson" <dickos4@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IRISH] JAMIESON > Hi Elaine > > I'm no expert, but from several e-mails I've read on this list, many Irish people > travelled from their homeland to the mainland of Britain, whether specifically > to "catch a boat", or perhaps to try to find work there, and afterwards "catching a > boat" to another country. > > I've been given that advice myself in relation to one of our Irish families. > > Someone else on the list may be able to further enlighten you! > > Happy hunting > Judy Dickinson > > > > Elaine Smith <easmith@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > This may sound a little silly, but hoping some one may be able to > > give me an idea- > > I have Alexander Jamieson who according to his Qld marriage > > certificate was born in Bangor Down Ireland, He arrived here in 1869 > > on the Young Australia, but according to ship info this ship sailed > > from London to Brisbane. > > Would he have travelled from Ireland to England to catch the boat so > > to speak or could he have been living in London prior to this?? any > > help would be appreciated > > Thankyou in advance > > Elaine Smith > > Bethania Qld Australia > > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks > > Peter > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > <Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narret qui accepit.> > May he who does a good deed be quiet; may he who receives it tell about it. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi I have a line of Gleesons in Gunnadah Patrick Kennedy married Catherine Anne OBrien Bridget Kennedy married married Thomas Gleeson St Patricks day 1925 Patrick had 11 children Kathleen 6 Margaret became a sister Carmel 5 Bridget another sister aka sister Bridget Eileen 5 Thomas 6 I have a list of all their marriages and children if there is an interest Christene ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Desmond Skelly" <deskelly@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Seeking descendents of Michael Gleeson of Warrnambool, Victoria > I realise that this is a shot in the dark, but wondered whether there were > any listers living in and around Warrnambool, Victoria. > Late last year I was delighted to track down Michael Gleeson, the long-lost > brother of my maternal great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson. > My great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson and his brothers Timothy and Thomas > came out from Tipperary, Ireland in the late 1850's and settled first at > Toowoomba on the Darling Downs and then took up land at Crow's Nest north > east of Toowoomba. > It had been rumoured in the family for ages that Michael another brother of > Mathew Gleeson had also come out to Australia and was thought to have > disembarked at Melbourne and settled in the Warrnambool district. As nothing > had ever been done, to my knowledge, to follow this up I decided last year > to look into the matter. > Thanks to the Research Officer of the Warrnambool Family History Society I > learned of a death record of a Michael Gleeson listed in the Victorian > Federation Index of 1889-1901. He died on October 19, 1891 at age 59 > years.The interesting news was that Michael's parents were Jas[James] > Gleeson and Ann Costello the of my great-grandfather Mathew Gleeson. I had > finally tracked down the long-lost brother. > Further information from the Research Officer advised that Michael's wife > was Bridget Darcy and that they had nine children. However six died as > infants or a young age. > The surviving children were: - > > Elizabeth Mary Gleeson born in 1857. > Thomas William Gleeson born in 1861. > John Joseph Gleeson born in 1869. > > Michael Gleson's death certificate shows that he died at his residence at > Timor Street, Warrnambool. The informant for the death certificate was his > son-in-law, J. J. Mooney, of Ballangeish. He probably was the husband of > Elizabeth Mary Gleeson. > > I would love to be able to trace some of the descendents of Michael and > Bridget Gleeson, Nee Darcy. If there are any Gleeson and Mooney listers from > the Warrnambool area who may be related, I would be delighted to hear from > them. > Des Skelly > Moorooka, Qld. > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all This may sound a little silly, but hoping some one may be able to give me an idea- I have Alexander Jamieson who according to his Qld marriage certificate was born in Bangor Down Ireland, He arrived here in 1869 on the Young Australia, but according to ship info this ship sailed from London to Brisbane. Would he have travelled from Ireland to England to catch the boat so to speak or could he have been living in London prior to this?? any help would be appreciated Thankyou in advance Elaine Smith Bethania Qld Australia

Hi my name is Kerrie i live in a little way away bout an hour or so from Warrnambool i have a grandfather who lives around that area and was wondering if you know weather they are farmers . i came to this due to my grandfather being a farmer and he has talked about the Gleeson's farm it might be a bit of a long shot but i think the farm could be in the area between Warranambool and a place called Hamilton if that is any help then I'm glad regards Kerrie** "James Desmond Skelly" <deskelly@optusnet.com.au> on Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:11:36 +1000 wrote: > I realise that this is a shot in the dark, but wondered whether there were > any listers living in and around Warrnambool, Victoria. > Late last year I was delighted to track down Michael Gleeson, the long-lost > brother of my maternal great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson. > My great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson and his brothers Timothy and Thomas > came out from Tipperary, Ireland in the late 1850's and settled first at > Toowoomba on the Darling Downs and then took up land at Crow's Nest north > east of Toowoomba. > It had been rumoured in the family for ages that Michael another brother of > Mathew Gleeson had also come out to Australia and was thought to have > disembarked at Melbourne and settled in the Warrnambool district. As nothing > had ever been done, to my knowledge, to follow this up I decided last year > to look into the matter. > Thanks to the Research Officer of the Warrnambool Family History Society I > learned of a death record of a Michael Gleeson listed in the Victorian > Federation Index of 1889-1901. He died on October 19, 1891 at age 59 > years.The interesting news was that Michael's parents were Jas[James] > Gleeson and Ann Costello the of my great-grandfather Mathew Gleeson. I had > finally tracked down the long-lost brother. > Further information from the Research Officer advised that Michael's wife > was Bridget Darcy and that they had nine children. However six died as > infants or a young age. > The surviving children were: - > > Elizabeth Mary Gleeson born in 1857. > Thomas William Gleeson born in 1861. > John Joseph Gleeson born in 1869. > > Michael Gleson's death certificate shows that he died at his residence at > Timor Street, Warrnambool. The informant for the death certificate was his > son-in-law, J. J. Mooney, of Ballangeish. He probably was the husband of > Elizabeth Mary Gleeson. > > I would love to be able to trace some of the descendents of Michael and > Bridget Gleeson, Nee Darcy. If there are any Gleeson and Mooney listers from > the Warrnambool area who may be related, I would be delighted to hear from > them. > Des Skelly > Moorooka, Qld. > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- mor04@colachs.vic.edu.au http://www.colachs.vic.edu.au/

Hello Listers Can anyone give me a brief history on Donnass, County Clare, Ireland. Where exactly is it located in Ireland, population around 1850/5, main employment base. Is there also somewhere I can look to give me a list of names in each house hold?, or perhaps an address of the local historian/historical society that I can write to. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your help Tanya Gosford, NSW Australia

I realise that this is a shot in the dark, but wondered whether there were any listers living in and around Warrnambool, Victoria. Late last year I was delighted to track down Michael Gleeson, the long-lost brother of my maternal great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson. My great-grandfather, Mathew Gleeson and his brothers Timothy and Thomas came out from Tipperary, Ireland in the late 1850's and settled first at Toowoomba on the Darling Downs and then took up land at Crow's Nest north east of Toowoomba. It had been rumoured in the family for ages that Michael another brother of Mathew Gleeson had also come out to Australia and was thought to have disembarked at Melbourne and settled in the Warrnambool district. As nothing had ever been done, to my knowledge, to follow this up I decided last year to look into the matter. Thanks to the Research Officer of the Warrnambool Family History Society I learned of a death record of a Michael Gleeson listed in the Victorian Federation Index of 1889-1901. He died on October 19, 1891 at age 59 years.The interesting news was that Michael's parents were Jas[James] Gleeson and Ann Costello the of my great-grandfather Mathew Gleeson. I had finally tracked down the long-lost brother. Further information from the Research Officer advised that Michael's wife was Bridget Darcy and that they had nine children. However six died as infants or a young age. The surviving children were: - Elizabeth Mary Gleeson born in 1857. Thomas William Gleeson born in 1861. John Joseph Gleeson born in 1869. Michael Gleson's death certificate shows that he died at his residence at Timor Street, Warrnambool. The informant for the death certificate was his son-in-law, J. J. Mooney, of Ballangeish. He probably was the husband of Elizabeth Mary Gleeson. I would love to be able to trace some of the descendents of Michael and Bridget Gleeson, Nee Darcy. If there are any Gleeson and Mooney listers from the Warrnambool area who may be related, I would be delighted to hear from them. Des Skelly Moorooka, Qld.

Hi Tanya, Try the following web site: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/kiltonanlea.htm Then return to Home Page of this site and there is a lot of information that may help you. If you still have queries just write direct and I will try to help. I am currently trying to locate some of my family in Australia. Regards, Mike

"Robert Glendenning GREGG, fell from favor of the Royal English Court. In May, 1886, he was tried, found guilty of Intrigue, and deported -- first to Brisbane, Australia and then ferried to a penal colony in New Zealand. To make a living for his wife (Isabella or Elizabeth) and three children, (Hannah, Robert, Harry). He qualified as a tailor working in a government shop. He made British service uniforms, and was soon promoted to overseer of the workplace." Quote from Aunt. Went to Australia bet 1884 and 1886. Came to US about 1895 or 1896. One of these trips was aboard the Chimborazo. Would welcome copy of any passenger lists. Don't know how he made the other trip. Any help would sure be appreciated: _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Hello Listers Daniel Joseph Keane married Elizabeth Hegarty/Hagerty in 1879. His birthplace was Co Clare; hers was Lancefield, Vic. They settled in Nhill. May was born in 1880, Eva Constance in 1882, William Michael in 1885, Eileen Anita in 1887, and Francis Esmonde in 1889. There may have been other children. Eva Constance become Sr Agnes in the Congregation of the Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, William Michael joined the Jesuits and I believe Francis Esmonde became a Collins St. specialist. Eileen had died in 1888. Does any of this sound familiar? Would love to make contact if it does. Regards Lorraine Vass Wyrallah, Northern NSW

Good Morning I am interested in hearing from anyone on the list who is working on forebears in the Cadamstown/Letter/Seirkieran/Deerpark locality of Co. Offaly, around the 1830-1840 period. Hope there are a few of you out there to talk to! Regards Lorraine Vass Wyrallah, Northern NSW

Lorraine You may like to try this website http://www.mapquest.com/maps/main.adp?countrycode=114 (114 is Ireland) Enter Deerpark into the town line and it comes up with a general location, near the town of Lahy. Margaret Szalay mszalay@bigpond.net.au -----Original Message----- From: Rick and Lorraine [mailto:vassii@lis.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 February 2003 8:03 AM To: AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Interpreting Marriage/Baptism info. >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:48:32 +1100 >To: IRL-OFFALY-L@rootsweb.com >From: Rick and Lorraine <vassii@lis.net.au> >Subject: Interpreting Marriage/Baptism info. > >Greetings Listers > >Today I checked outthe registry of marriages and baptisms of the united parishes of Roscumroe, Lackaroe and Kinnitty (LSD m/film 0979695 item 4-5). I found two of the three entries I was looking for but I would like to confirm the significance of the placenames given. > >The first entry, for a marriage, gives the date (10/2/1834), the parties' names, and the name of the celebrant on the first line. The second line gives the names of the witnesses, a placename, in this case, Cadamstown, and then the fee paid (I presume). So, do I conclude that the marriage took place at Cadamstown or was that the abode of the bride or groom, or both? > >The second entry, a baptism, gives the date (22/3/1840), the name of the child, his parents' names, a placename I imagine, Deerpark. The second line gives the names of the sponsors, the name of the priest and the fee. Same question, was the baptism performed at Deerpark or was that the family's abode? > >The third entry I was looking for, an earlier baptism to the one I found, was not there. This was for the couple's eldest child; a girl. From the information provided on her Victorian (Aust) marriage certificate in 1853, I would have expected her to have been born in 1836/7. Can anyone venture an explanation for why it isn't? > >I know the location of Cadamstown but am a bit stuck on Deerpark. > >Hope someone can help me with these queries. >Kind regards >Lorraine Vass >Wyrallah, Northern NSW > >

>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:48:32 +1100 >To: IRL-OFFALY-L@rootsweb.com >From: Rick and Lorraine <vassii@lis.net.au> >Subject: Interpreting Marriage/Baptism info. > >Greetings Listers > >Today I checked outthe registry of marriages and baptisms of the united parishes of Roscumroe, Lackaroe and Kinnitty (LSD m/film 0979695 item 4-5). I found two of the three entries I was looking for but I would like to confirm the significance of the placenames given. > >The first entry, for a marriage, gives the date (10/2/1834), the parties' names, and the name of the celebrant on the first line. The second line gives the names of the witnesses, a placename, in this case, Cadamstown, and then the fee paid (I presume). So, do I conclude that the marriage took place at Cadamstown or was that the abode of the bride or groom, or both? > >The second entry, a baptism, gives the date (22/3/1840), the name of the child, his parents' names, a placename I imagine, Deerpark. The second line gives the names of the sponsors, the name of the priest and the fee. Same question, was the baptism performed at Deerpark or was that the family's abode? > >The third entry I was looking for, an earlier baptism to the one I found, was not there. This was for the couple's eldest child; a girl. From the information provided on her Victorian (Aust) marriage certificate in 1853, I would have expected her to have been born in 1836/7. Can anyone venture an explanation for why it isn't? > >I know the location of Cadamstown but am a bit stuck on Deerpark. > >Hope someone can help me with these queries. >Kind regards >Lorraine Vass >Wyrallah, Northern NSW > >

Good afternoon researchers I need some help - any info on Henry MASSEY and his wife Catherine SHEEHAN and their children (Eliza, Jane, Margaret, ...) who came to Sydney in 1855 from Donass, Ireland. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Tanya Member Central Coast FHS Gosford

THese Doolans came from Tipperary....Hope it helps DOOLAN Dennis 1852 28 Cloghill Nicholas / Judith living at Cloghill None . R.C. Ship = Sir George Seymour DOOLAN Ann 1852 20 Nenagh Patrick / margaret living at Nenagh None . {& husb=Dennis,25 of Clare} Ship = Humboldt DOOLAN Bridget 1855 20 Thurton (?) Martin / Peggy both dead none . R.C. Ship = Rajahsthan DOOLAN Bridget 1860 24 Caher - IDJ xx xx Paid for by Ellen HEALON. Ship = Chance DOLAN Margaret 1865 27 Roscrea James / Bridget both dead . Cousin = Ann Dolan , Sydney . Ship = Wallasea Christene ----- Original Message ----- From: <itshimselfthen@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Dennis Doolan > Hello > > I'm looking for information about Dennis Doolan possibly a native of > Tipperary who married Bridget Ryan in Sydney Austrlia in 1855. Some of > their children were Anne, James, Nancy, and Nicholas. Dennis may also > have spelt his name Dooling, Dooley, Doolin, > Dowling etc. > > Cheers > > Mick Dowling > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > http://www.sierrahome.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello I'm looking for information about Dennis Doolan possibly a native of Tipperary who married Bridget Ryan in Sydney Austrlia in 1855. Some of their children were Anne, James, Nancy, and Nicholas. Dennis may also have spelt his name Dooling, Dooley, Doolin, Dowling etc. Cheers Mick Dowling

----- Original Message ----- From: Bev Kerlin To: AUS-QLD ; SEQ Germans ; AUS-IRISH Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Althaus Hi Gals and Guys Have written to Starr about the double-ups and I will respond directly to her re ALTHAUS tomorrow, hopefully with a small GEDCOM, which I know would through (DARN - MAKE THAT *THROW* PLEASE) our "bosses" into a tizz. If anyone wants a little on that family, please let me know and I'll try to help. Cheers Bev