Hi Lorraine, The earliest years of civil registration (births) are on-line on the IGI and some of the subsequent years (roughly during the 1870s) are on the British Vital Records CDs (of course Version 2 has more years than version 1), but as far as I am aware, the only way is still to trawl through the index films at the LDS. This makes it very difficult to do a general search across a range of years for different members of a family, so if anyone knows a better way of doing it in Australia, I would love to know too! Cheers, Jo Mitchell Geelong ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick and Lorraine" <vassii@lis.net.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Irish Civil Registration Indexes > Hello List > > Can somebody tell me if the indexes to Irish BDM are available on CD or do > I need to continue doing what I am now and order the films through my LDS > Family History Centre? > > Kind regards > Lorraine Vass > Wyrallah, Northern NSW > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > I knew that I was taking genealogy too seriously when I turned up at a cemetery search with a shovel > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Lorraine I have the 2nd Edition BVRI and Kings Co starts at 1867 - there are 59 records for Corcoran and 62 for Doolan. It seems that the marriages may start at 1850 - there are 3 for Doolan and none for Corcoran or Korcoran. Cheers Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick and Lorraine" <vassii@lis.net.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Irish Civil Registration Indexes > Hello List > > Can somebody tell me if the indexes to Irish BDM are available on CD or do > I need to continue doing what I am now and order the films through my LDS > Family History Centre?

Hello List Can somebody tell me if the indexes to Irish BDM are available on CD or do I need to continue doing what I am now and order the films through my LDS Family History Centre? Kind regards Lorraine Vass Wyrallah, Northern NSW

Hi Im on holidays and will be spending a lot of time going through reels looking for my McGrtah Kennedy Quinn McCullan McCallard Moss Ovens families who came from Ireland late 1820s through the 40s.If anyone wants look ups especially the Crescent Margaret Hotspur and Elizabeth ill do my best for you Christene

Christine... My mother-in-law is searching for Annie Hall and Annie Freany (not sure of spelling) who came from Ireland. Unfortunately she is with us on holidays at the moment and doesn't have here family tree stuff here so she can't check the approximate dates they arrived... If you have time.... Thanks so much Liza ----- Original Message ----- From: "christene hartley" <chartley@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:19 AM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Aus immigration > Hi > Im on holidays and will be spending a lot of time going through reels > looking for my McGrtah Kennedy Quinn McCullan McCallard Moss Ovens families > who came from Ireland late 1820s through the 40s.If anyone wants look ups > especially the Crescent Margaret Hotspur and Elizabeth ill do my best for > you > Christene > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks Peter > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I would be very greatful if you happen to come across a Thomas OLEARY/LEARY, wife Mary, son Maurice and a daughter Bridgett or Grace MULLIN/MULLANE. Thank you very much in advance and I hope you have great success in your search. Mary Margaret

The TV program "In Search of Ancient Ireland" has been showing on SBS TV in NSW Australia (and possibly elsewhere) at 7.30 pm Sundays for the last 2 weeks with 1 more program to show. There is an interesting web site about the program at www.pbs.org/wnet/ancientireland that is well worth visiting. Hope that you enjoy. Regards, Peter

Hi Diane... One of the better ones that I used although it is not complete was a site by Lesley Uebel. The address is http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page4.html It gives you the place and date of arrival, ships name and the native place of the orphans. Some other general Irish sites for you to try: http://names.local.ie/ www.amitar.com.au/~deel/westlist.htm www.cimorelli.com/ireland.finfname www.irishclans.com/surname/ www.irishroots.net www.users.on.net/proformat/irlnames Hope this helps... Let me know if you can't access any of these websites... It has been over 12 months since I have used them. Regards Liza ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Riley" <diriley@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Looking for... > Hi Liza > > I can't help you with your Annie, but I would be pleased if you could give > me the websites you have already checked. > > I'm looking for Hannah McMahon from Kilfearagh, Clare. I'm fairly sure she > came on the Pemberton, but I have no other details which would help me find > any family details. > > Good luck with your search. > > Diane > > > >From : > "lgs" <lgs@optusnet.com.au> > > To : > AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject : > [AUS-IRISH] Looking for... > > Date : > Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:56:58 +1000 > > Hello to everyone... > > Can someone please help me... I used to subscribe to this list and have just > rejoined and I am trying to find out about the Potato Famine Orphans. > > I am wanting to find out if Annie HALL or Annie FREANY (not sure of > spelling) were among those who came out as orphans during this time. > > I have already checked a couple of websites but as their list is incomplete > I > would really appreciate anyone who may be able to help me out... > > Thanks so much > > Liza > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > <Qui dedit beneficium taceat; narret qui accepit.> > May he who does a good deed be quiet; may he who receives it tell about it. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Diane, You connection with Kilfearagh, Clare has attracted my attention. I may be able to assist as I have connection with the area. Kilfearagh is the old name for the present Parish of Kilkee, Co. Clare. The McMahon name is/was plentiful in the region. Hope this may point you towards a more fixed location. Regards, Mike

Hi Liza I can't help you with your Annie, but I would be pleased if you could give me the websites you have already checked. I'm looking for Hannah McMahon from Kilfearagh, Clare. I'm fairly sure she came on the Pemberton, but I have no other details which would help me find any family details. Good luck with your search. Diane >From : "lgs" <lgs@optusnet.com.au> To : AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com Subject : [AUS-IRISH] Looking for... Date : Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:56:58 +1000 Hello to everyone... Can someone please help me... I used to subscribe to this list and have just rejoined and I am trying to find out about the Potato Famine Orphans. I am wanting to find out if Annie HALL or Annie FREANY (not sure of spelling) were among those who came out as orphans during this time. I have already checked a couple of websites but as their list is incomplete I would really appreciate anyone who may be able to help me out... Thanks so much Liza > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

Liza There is a memorial to all the famine orphans at the Hyde Park Barracks which contains all the names of those famine orphans who came to Aus.. Sadly some names have faded with the elements although the monument is only a couple of years old... Do you have a year in which your Annie arrived? There are several publications and a large group of famine descendants who meet at the Hyde Park Barracks on an irregular basis for various functions.. There is a publication called Clann an Ghorta which is devoted to the Irish famine orphans and their descendants who contribute to the publication from time to time... It may be worth the time to contact the co-ordinator of the magazine .. and place an ad for descendants of your Annie.. Cheers Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "lgs" <lgs@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Looking for... > Hello to everyone... > > Can someone please help me... I used to subscribe to this list and have just rejoined and I am trying to find out about the Potato Famine Orphans. > > I am wanting to find out if Annie HALL or Annie FREANY (not sure of spelling) were among those who came out as orphans during this time. > > I have already checked a couple of websites but as their list is incomplete I would really appreciate anyone who may be able to help me out... > > Thanks so much > > Liza > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > >>"A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour."<< > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Diane, You connection with Kilfearagh, Clare has attracted my attention. I may be able to assist as I have connection with the area. Kilfearagh is the old name for the present Parish of Kilkee, Co. Clare. The McMahon name is/was plentiful in the region. Hope this may point you towards a more fixed location. Regards, Mike

Hello to everyone... Can someone please help me... I used to subscribe to this list and have just rejoined and I am trying to find out about the Potato Famine Orphans. I am wanting to find out if Annie HALL or Annie FREANY (not sure of spelling) were among those who came out as orphans during this time. I have already checked a couple of websites but as their list is incomplete I would really appreciate anyone who may be able to help me out... Thanks so much Liza

Thanks for the message J & J. Lots to ponder and one I will certainly pass on. Not many get past this screen. St Patricks Day, and we wonder what is in store for us in the next 24 hours. Dare we ask God to keep an eye and ear open? Cheers from the Central Coast, The Entrance area. NSW Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Janet Wain" <jjwain@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: [AUS-IRISH] Fw: [AQ-TOOWOOMBA] FW: Thought Provoking > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Albert Grulke" <grulke@bigpond.com.au> > To: <AUS-QLD-TOOWOOMBA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:22 AM > Subject: [AQ-TOOWOOMBA] FW: Thought Provoking > > > > Off list I know but I reckon this si worth sharing > > Albert Grulke > > -----Original Message----- > > From: barry minster [mailto:barrym@bigpond.net.au] > > Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 7:25 PM > > To: Gayle De Poli > > Subject: Thought Provoking > > > > > > > > > > Thought this was good enough to pass on... > > > > > > > > In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a > > laugh, this is a little different: > > > > > > > > This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get > you > > thinking. > > > > > > Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson > > asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the > > attacks on Sept. 11). > > Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, > "I > > believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years > we've > > been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government > and > > to get out of our lives. > > And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. > > > > How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we > > demand He leave us alone?" > > In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I > > think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body > > found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we > > said OK. > > Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible > says > > thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as > > yourself. And we said OK. > > Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they > > misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might > > damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). > > > > We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. > > Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our > children > > when they misbehave. > > > > The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better > touch > > a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and > > we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between > > disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). > And > > we said OK. > > > > Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, > and > > they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. > > > > Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and > > they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they > want > > so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their > > parents they got them at school. And we said OK. > > > > Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do > in > > private as long as we do our jobs. > > > > Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including > > the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is > > good. > > > > > > Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and > call > > it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female > body. > > And we said OK. > > > > > > And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and > > published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them > > available on the Internet. > > > > And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech. > > > > > > Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that > > promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. > > > > Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and > satanic > > themes. > > > > And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody > takes > > it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. > > Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they > > don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill > > strangers, their classmates, and themselves. > > Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. > > I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." > > > > Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the > > world's going to hell. > > > > Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible > > says. > > Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like > wildfire > > but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice > > about sharing. > > Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through > > cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and > > workplace. > > Are you laughing? > > Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many > > on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what > they > > WILL think of you for sending it. > > > > Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than > > what God thinks of us. > > Pass it on if you think it has merit. > > > > > > > > If not then just discard it, no one will know you did. But, if you > > discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad > > shape the world is in! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-TOOWOOMBA Mailing List ==== > > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > > www.audps.com > > The Chronicle Obituaries Toowoomba > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > Another line I like which I saw on another list - > "when an old person dies, a whole library goes up in flames" thanks Peter > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This has to be the most wonderful RC parish web site I have ever seen...........and so says Jane Lyons from another list. I would have to agree! http://www.lmi.utvinternet.com/index.htm dedicated in 1873........... It's got marriages - baptisms - gravestones.......... Does anyone know where it is - which townlands it was created from - which parishes those townlands came from? Or...........does anyone have an email address to contact this parish - does anyone know how their message board works......... Please sned all queries via the list and NOT direct to me. Jim List admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Grulke" <grulke@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-QLD-TOOWOOMBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: [AQ-TOOWOOMBA] FW: Thought Provoking > Off list I know but I reckon this si worth sharing > Albert Grulke > -----Original Message----- > From: barry minster [mailto:barrym@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 7:25 PM > To: Gayle De Poli > Subject: Thought Provoking > > > > > Thought this was good enough to pass on... > > > > In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a > laugh, this is a little different: > > > > This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you > thinking. > > > Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson > asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the > attacks on Sept. 11). > Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, "I > believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've > been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and > to get out of our lives. > And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. > > How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we > demand He leave us alone?" > In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I > think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body > found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we > said OK. > Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says > thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as > yourself. And we said OK. > Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they > misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might > damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). > > We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. > Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children > when they misbehave. > > The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch > a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and > we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between > disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And > we said OK. > > Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and > they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. > > Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and > they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want > so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their > parents they got them at school. And we said OK. > > Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in > private as long as we do our jobs. > > Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including > the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is > good. > > > Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call > it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. > And we said OK. > > > And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and > published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them > available on the Internet. > > And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech. > > > Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that > promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. > > Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic > themes. > > And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes > it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. > Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they > don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill > strangers, their classmates, and themselves. > Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. > I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." > > Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the > world's going to hell. > > Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible > says. > Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire > but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice > about sharing. > Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through > cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and > workplace. > Are you laughing? > Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many > on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they > WILL think of you for sending it. > > Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than > what God thinks of us. > Pass it on if you think it has merit. > > > > If not then just discard it, no one will know you did. But, if you > discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad > shape the world is in! > > > > > > ==== AUS-QLD-TOOWOOMBA Mailing List ==== > Toowoomba Dead Persons Society > www.audps.com > The Chronicle Obituaries Toowoomba > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Can anyone lookup in the Bounty immigration lists for Mary SMITH b.1820 in Down, Ireland, arriving in the 1830's? If anyone can help me please get in touch. Donna

i have heard about a mary ann smith ? "Donna Bailey" <donnabailey77@hotmail.com> on Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:04:12 +1000 (E. Australia Standard Time) wrote: > I am trying find an arrival for Mary SMITH (born 1820 in Licoo Down NIR d/o > James SMITH and Catherine WILLIAMSON) who married James CONNOR in 1842 in > Sydney. > > Does anyone know anything about my Mary? > > Donna > > > ==== AUS-IRISH Mailing List ==== > ** Cyndi's List is sponsored by SierraHome ** > http://www.sierrahome.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- mor04@colachs.vic.edu.au http://www.colachs.vic.edu.au/

I am trying find an arrival for Mary SMITH (born 1820 in Licoo Down NIR d/o James SMITH and Catherine WILLIAMSON) who married James CONNOR in 1842 in Sydney. Does anyone know anything about my Mary? Donna

Michael, Thank you for that, your experience with the manifests of several ships gives me some confidence. All that I need to know now is how and why they came via Glasgow, surely a long way from Derrygonnelly, Co. Fermanagh. Do you have any spare Cassidys around? My grandmother was a Susan Cassidy. According to her marriage certificate she was from Derrygonnelly also, her father was a Samuel Cassidy, a "Valuator" in Ireland and her mother was a Margaret Hutton. Can't find any sign of any of them. Can't even find how Susan came to Australia. Family lore says that she came a maid to a Medical Doctor and family to Melbourne, but every family story so far has been shown to be a figment of someone's imagination, probably my Irish grandfather who undoubtedly had the "gift of the gab". :-) Regards, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cassidy" <cassidy@panix.com> To: "Peter Dolan" <dolan@pnc.com.au> Cc: <Y-IRL@yahoogroups.com>; "AUS-IRISH" <AUS-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com>; "Donegal" <DONEGALEIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [Y-IRL] Re: [DONEGAL] Irish ports - Moville > At 9:43 AM +1100 3/11/03, Peter Dolan wrote: > >The idea of ships leaving Glasgow, picking up passengers at Moville/Lough > >Foyle raises the question of what the ship's manifest would have shown as > >their point of embarkation, Glasgow(Greenock) of Moville (Lough Foyle) or > >??? > My cassidy came in 1871 and did all the stops. Each point of departure on > the several ships I looked at show which port they passengers boarded. > > regards > m > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jazz is freedom. - T. Monk > http://www.panix.com/~cassidy > > >