Hi Susan, The Guildford was a ship of 521 tons built at the Thames in 1810. The Guildford was one of the best known convict ships ... In eight voyages as a convict ship the Guildford conveyed over 1,500 male prisoners to Australia for the loss of about a dozen men on the passage, the record of her passages being as follows: 1812 London to Port Jackson 137 days 1816 Ireland to Sydney not recorded 1818 Cork to Sydney 138 days 1820 Portsmouth to Sydney 139 days 1822 London to Sydney 99 days 1824 England to Sydney 190 days 1827 Plymouth to Sydney 116 days 1829 Dublin to Sydney 115 days The Guildford had the same master for its first seven voyages, Magnus JOHNSON. Robert HARRISON was her master on her eighth voyage. "Johnson was a prudent and conscientious master, and he treated the convicts humanely" (Bateson, 1983, p.232). On her fourth voyage, the Guildford sailed from Portsmouth on 14 May 1820, passing via the Cape to Sydney, where she arrived on 30 September 1820, and then on to Hobart where she arrived on 28 October 1820, 167 days after leaving Portsmouth. Her surgeon on this voyage was Hugh WALKER. She carried 190 male convicts, of which one was landed at Sydney and the remaining 189 were landed at Hobart Town. Log of Logs, Vol. 1. by Ian Nicholson Guidford, E.I. Co ship/Ct, 521t 1823-1824 >From Lon.-Plymouth, 31/3 - Ten. - Sydney, 25/7 with 189 male prisoners +account of voyage out by Lady Amelia Forbes * Mitchell Library, MSS943 >From net Search, Researcher of Guilford (6) 1824, vicval@overflow.net.au >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/Lloyds.htm GUILDFORD - 1825 (Green Book - Underwriters) Master: Captain N. Johnson Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822 Tonnage: 521 tons Construction: River; vessel 15 years old; major repairs in 1819 Owners: Mangles Draught under load: 18 feet Port of survey: London Voyage: sailed for New South Wales (Red Book - Shipowners) Master: Captain Johnston Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822; copper repaired in 1825 Tonnage: 528 tons Construction: 1810 in River; major repairs in 1819; new Wales, top sides, deck & major repairs in 1825 Owners: Mangles Draught under load: 18 feet Port of survey: London Voyage: sailed for a) New South Wales; b) India State Records NSW http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_convict_arrivals_7075.asp 4/4009] Bound Indents, 1823-24 650 Table of Contents pp 1-102 Recovery, 1823-Mary III, 1823 651 pp 103-202 Albion, 1823-Guildford, 1824 also http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_musters_and_other_papers_7081.asp http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/stories.html >From http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ arrival: ship Guildford Convict vessel Source Master: Magnus Johnson grk, ad1 Rigging: ship grk, ad1 Weight: 521 grk, ad1 Origin: 28th Aug 1823 Portsmouth grk, ad1 Destination: 5th Mar 1824 Sydney grk, ad1 Date Event/Item Details Source primary source AO 2/8261p437 [2422] cargo stores grk, ad1 via Derwent Passengers arriving at Sydney Name Notes Type Source 159 m cnv convict detachment 40th Regt State Records NSW http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/ Has the following Convict Pardons HANSLOW Benjamin - Guildford 1824 0793 CP 31 Dec 1836 [4/4435] 776 - 063 Index to Tickets of exemption from Government Labor 1827-1832 HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 30/143 30/6/1830 4/4284, 4/4061 1004, 1006 to reside with his wife Catherine (born in the Colony) HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 31/5 3/1/1831 4/4284, 4/4062 1004, 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony) HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 32/11 2/1/1832 4/4285, 4/4062 1005, 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony); torn up on his receiving a ticket of leave (no.33/636) Hope this may help Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1824 > Hi all, > Asking please if you know details for Benjamin > Hanlsow who arrived aboard "Guildford" 1824 that > you contact me to swap notes and photos. > Would you have the indent list for "Guildford"? > Anyone have a description of the vessel or tell > me where I can find it, a picture maybe? > Kind regards, > Susan > Central Coast > NSW.

Hi Lynne, You have a wonderful depth of knowledge on the subject of shipping to Australia. It is always a pleasure to read your answers to whomever you are helping, I learn something new every time you answer a query on this site. Whilst the subject may not be pertinent to my research at present, I keep them all knowing I shall probably require them sometime in the future. Thank you for the knowledge freely given. Perhaps one day I will find the name of the ship my family immigrated from Ireland in, and you will be able to fill in the 'blanks' of the voyage for me. Looking forward to that day! Warm regards, Dee Lamb Island, Moreton Bay. <snip>

Hello Dee, Thank you for your kind words. I like to help, and have many resources here. My interest stems, I am sure from my husband, whom I met on a voyage to UK, (he was an engineer on the P&O ships) We met 34 years ago and have been married for 32 yrs. He says you get less for Murder!! If I can be of any assistance in furthering your research, please ask and I will see what might be available. Take care, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Byster-Graham" <deebg@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1824 > Hi Lynne, > > You have a wonderful depth of knowledge on the subject of shipping to > Australia. It is always a pleasure to read your answers to whomever you > are > helping, I learn something new every time you answer a query on this site. > Whilst the subject may not be pertinent to my research at present, I keep > them all knowing I shall probably require them sometime in the future. > > Thank you for the knowledge freely given. Perhaps one day I will find the > name of the ship my family immigrated from Ireland in, and you will be > able > to fill in the 'blanks' of the voyage for me. Looking forward to that day! > > Warm regards, > Dee > Lamb Island, Moreton Bay.

Hi Lynne, That's wonderful. Thankyou so much for your help re "Guildford" and my ancestor, Benjamin Hanslow, convict aboard "Guildford" 1824 to Sydney. Will take me a while to study all this. Very interesting. Kind regards, Susan NSW. On 8/29/07, Lynne Radford <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hi Susan, > The Guildford was a ship of 521 tons built at the Thames in 1810. > > The Guildford was one of the best known convict ships ... In eight voyages > as a convict ship the Guildford conveyed over 1,500 male prisoners to > Australia for the loss of about a dozen men on the passage, the record of > her passages being as follows: > 1812 London to Port Jackson 137 days > > 1816 Ireland to Sydney not recorded > > 1818 Cork to Sydney 138 days > > 1820 Portsmouth to Sydney 139 days > > 1822 London to Sydney 99 days > > 1824 England to Sydney 190 days > > 1827 Plymouth to Sydney 116 days > > 1829 Dublin to Sydney 115 days > The Guildford had the same master for its first seven voyages, Magnus > JOHNSON. Robert HARRISON was her master on her eighth voyage. "Johnson was > a prudent and conscientious master, and he treated the convicts humanely" > (Bateson, 1983, p.232). > On her fourth voyage, the Guildford sailed from Portsmouth on 14 May 1820, > passing via the Cape to Sydney, where she arrived on 30 September 1820, and > then on to Hobart where she arrived on 28 October 1820, 167 days after > leaving Portsmouth. Her surgeon on this voyage was Hugh WALKER. She > carried 190 male convicts, of which one was landed at Sydney and the > remaining 189 were landed at Hobart Town. > > Log of Logs, Vol. 1. by Ian Nicholson > Guidford, E.I. Co ship/Ct, 521t > 1823-1824 > >From Lon.-Plymouth, 31/3 - Ten. - Sydney, 25/7 with 189 male prisoners > +account of voyage out by Lady Amelia Forbes * Mitchell Library, MSS943 > > >From net Search, > Researcher of Guilford (6) 1824, vicval@overflow.net.au > > >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/Lloyds.htm > GUILDFORD - 1825 > > (Green Book - Underwriters) > Master: Captain N. Johnson > Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822 > Tonnage: 521 tons > Construction: River; vessel 15 years old; major repairs in 1819 > Owners: Mangles > Draught under load: 18 feet > Port of survey: London > Voyage: sailed for New South Wales > > (Red Book - Shipowners) > Master: Captain Johnston > Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822; copper repaired in 1825 > Tonnage: 528 tons > Construction: 1810 in River; major repairs in 1819; new Wales, top sides, > deck & major repairs in 1825 > Owners: Mangles > Draught under load: 18 feet > Port of survey: London > Voyage: sailed for a) New South Wales; b) India > > State Records NSW > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_convict_arrivals_7075.asp > 4/4009] > Bound Indents, 1823-24 > 650 > Table of Contents > pp 1-102 > Recovery, 1823-Mary III, 1823 > 651 > pp 103-202 > Albion, 1823-Guildford, 1824 > > also > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_musters_and_other_papers_7081.asp > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/stories.html > > >From http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ > > arrival: ship Guildford > Convict vessel > Source > Master: Magnus Johnson grk, ad1 > Rigging: ship grk, ad1 > Weight: 521 grk, ad1 > Origin: 28th Aug 1823 Portsmouth grk, ad1 > Destination: 5th Mar 1824 Sydney grk, ad1 > > Date Event/Item Details Source > primary source AO 2/8261p437 [2422] > cargo stores grk, ad1 > via Derwent > > Passengers arriving at Sydney > Name Notes Type Source > 159 m cnv convict > detachment 40th Regt > > State Records NSW http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/ > Has the following > Convict Pardons > HANSLOW Benjamin - Guildford 1824 0793 CP 31 Dec 1836 [4/4435] 776 - > 063 > > Index to Tickets of exemption from Government Labor 1827-1832 > HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 30/143 30/6/1830 4/4284, 4/4061 1004, > 1006 to reside with his wife Catherine (born in the Colony) > HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 31/5 3/1/1831 4/4284, 4/4062 1004, > 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony) > HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 32/11 2/1/1832 4/4285, 4/4062 1005, > 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony); torn up on his > receiving a ticket of leave (no.33/636) > > Hope this may help > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:29 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1824 > > > > Hi all, > > Asking please if you know details for Benjamin > > Hanlsow who arrived aboard "Guildford" 1824 that > > you contact me to swap notes and photos. > > Would you have the indent list for "Guildford"? > > Anyone have a description of the vessel or tell > > me where I can find it, a picture maybe? > > Kind regards, > > Susan > > Central Coast > > NSW. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lynne, Thank you for that information in so much detail. It is great. My convict, Joseph Greenhalgh came out on the Guildford in 1827. Would you have specific information on that voyage at all? Gary Gary & Donna Parker PO Box 89 Albany Creek Qld 4035 Australia pH 07 3862 8767 garyndonna@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Radford To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1824 Hi Susan, The Guildford was a ship of 521 tons built at the Thames in 1810. The Guildford was one of the best known convict ships ... In eight voyages as a convict ship the Guildford conveyed over 1,500 male prisoners to Australia for the loss of about a dozen men on the passage, the record of her passages being as follows: 1812 London to Port Jackson 137 days 1816 Ireland to Sydney not recorded 1818 Cork to Sydney 138 days 1820 Portsmouth to Sydney 139 days 1822 London to Sydney 99 days 1824 England to Sydney 190 days 1827 Plymouth to Sydney 116 days 1829 Dublin to Sydney 115 days The Guildford had the same master for its first seven voyages, Magnus JOHNSON. Robert HARRISON was her master on her eighth voyage. "Johnson was a prudent and conscientious master, and he treated the convicts humanely" (Bateson, 1983, p.232). On her fourth voyage, the Guildford sailed from Portsmouth on 14 May 1820, passing via the Cape to Sydney, where she arrived on 30 September 1820, and then on to Hobart where she arrived on 28 October 1820, 167 days after leaving Portsmouth. Her surgeon on this voyage was Hugh WALKER. She carried 190 male convicts, of which one was landed at Sydney and the remaining 189 were landed at Hobart Town. Log of Logs, Vol. 1. by Ian Nicholson Guidford, E.I. Co ship/Ct, 521t 1823-1824 >From Lon.-Plymouth, 31/3 - Ten. - Sydney, 25/7 with 189 male prisoners +account of voyage out by Lady Amelia Forbes * Mitchell Library, MSS943 >From net Search, Researcher of Guilford (6) 1824, vicval@overflow.net.au >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/Lloyds.htm GUILDFORD - 1825 (Green Book - Underwriters) Master: Captain N. Johnson Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822 Tonnage: 521 tons Construction: River; vessel 15 years old; major repairs in 1819 Owners: Mangles Draught under load: 18 feet Port of survey: London Voyage: sailed for New South Wales (Red Book - Shipowners) Master: Captain Johnston Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822; copper repaired in 1825 Tonnage: 528 tons Construction: 1810 in River; major repairs in 1819; new Wales, top sides, deck & major repairs in 1825 Owners: Mangles Draught under load: 18 feet Port of survey: London Voyage: sailed for a) New South Wales; b) India State Records NSW http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_convict_arrivals_7075.asp 4/4009] Bound Indents, 1823-24 650 Table of Contents pp 1-102 Recovery, 1823-Mary III, 1823 651 pp 103-202 Albion, 1823-Guildford, 1824 also http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/using_the_ark_musters_and_other_papers_7081.asp http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/stories.html >From http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ arrival: ship Guildford Convict vessel Source Master: Magnus Johnson grk, ad1 Rigging: ship grk, ad1 Weight: 521 grk, ad1 Origin: 28th Aug 1823 Portsmouth grk, ad1 Destination: 5th Mar 1824 Sydney grk, ad1 Date Event/Item Details Source primary source AO 2/8261p437 [2422] cargo stores grk, ad1 via Derwent Passengers arriving at Sydney Name Notes Type Source 159 m cnv convict detachment 40th Regt State Records NSW http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/ Has the following Convict Pardons HANSLOW Benjamin - Guildford 1824 0793 CP 31 Dec 1836 [4/4435] 776 - 063 Index to Tickets of exemption from Government Labor 1827-1832 HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 30/143 30/6/1830 4/4284, 4/4061 1004, 1006 to reside with his wife Catherine (born in the Colony) HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 31/5 3/1/1831 4/4284, 4/4062 1004, 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony) HANSLOW Benjamin Guildford 1824 32/11 2/1/1832 4/4285, 4/4062 1005, 1006 to reside with his wife C Hanslow (born in the Colony); torn up on his receiving a ticket of leave (no.33/636) Hope this may help Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1824 > Hi all, > Asking please if you know details for Benjamin > Hanlsow who arrived aboard "Guildford" 1824 that > you contact me to swap notes and photos. > Would you have the indent list for "Guildford"? > Anyone have a description of the vessel or tell > me where I can find it, a picture maybe? > Kind regards, > Susan > Central Coast > NSW. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.8/973 - Release Date: 25/08/2007 5:00 PM

Hi Gary, Same details for ship as replied to Susan. Log of Logs Vol.1, By Ian Nicholson has Guildford 1827 Left London - Plymouth, 31/3 - Teneriffe- Sydney, 25/7, with 189 male prisoners. + anonymous diary, 1827, NL, Canberra, MS 7565 + surgeons journals, 1827-1829, AJCP PRO reels 3196-7 Charles Bates, The Convict Ships. from Chapter 10 Following the 6th voyage,and the Guildford's return to England ownership passed to James Mangles & Marcus Johnson. She was thoroughly repaired, registered anew, described as carvel-built and square-rigged, with a standing bow-spirit. Her depth was reduced by 2", to 5' 8" , her dimension remained the same and she retained her square stern, quarter galleries and shield bust figure. Her registration tonnage, was increased from 521 51/94 to 553 62/94 tons. When she next reached Port Jackson, in 1827, it was reported that twenty thousand pounds had been spent on her and as she obtained a charter from the East India company, fulfilling the company's requirements of a dry-dock survey, it is evident that she had received a very thorough overhaul. Her last voyage from Dublin to Port Jackson arriving 4 Nov 1829. Early the following year she sailed from Hobart with a detachment of troops for India, arriving at Bombay 14 April 1830. Harrison then took her out to Singapore, from which port she sailed for England. She was never heard of again, presumed foundered. 1827, Guildford, embarked 190 male prisoners, 1 death, landed 189 male prisoners at Sydney Guildford Arrival date 25 July 1827, 7th voyage, 533tons built at the Thames 1810, Master Magnus Johnson, Surgeon Chas. Linton, sailed 31/3/1827 Other details re 1827 voyage, from The Convict Ships "Johnson was a prudent and conscientious master, and he treated the convicts humanely. Various charges were brought against him by Surgeon Charles Linton after the Guildford's arrival at Port Jackson in 1827, but Linton was piqued by Johnson having failed to consult him when an informer had disclosed an alleged plot at mutiny, and there seems no doubt that the charges were groundless. In an affidavit, the commander of the guard, Captain J. D. Forbes, of the 39th Regiment, declared: "During the greater part of the voyage the prisoners were, with very exceptions, out of irons, and, whenever the weather permitted, on deck far more, indeed, than appeared to me either consistent with prudence or warranted by necessity, and generally the whole of them (190) at once". In another affidavit, the third mate, George Lynch Cotton, disclosed that he had been appointed by Johnson to assist Linton and had been relieved "from every other duty relative to the ship" Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary and Donna Parker" <garyndonna@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:45 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] GUILDFORD 1827 > Lynne, > Thank you for that information in so much detail. It is great. My > convict, Joseph Greenhalgh came out on the Guildford in 1827. Would you > have specific information on that voyage at all? > > Gary > Gary & Donna Parker > PO Box 89 > Albany Creek Qld 4035 > Australia > pH 07 3862 8767 > > garyndonna@hotmail.com > > 1827 Plymouth to Sydney 116 days > > The Guildford had the same master for its first seven voyages, Magnus > JOHNSON. Robert HARRISON was her master on her eighth voyage. "Johnson > was > a prudent and conscientious master, and he treated the convicts humanely" > (Bateson, 1983, p.232). > >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/Lloyds.htm > GUILDFORD - 1825 > > (Green Book - Underwriters) > Master: Captain N. Johnson > Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822 > Tonnage: 521 tons > Construction: River; vessel 15 years old; major repairs in 1819 > Owners: Mangles > Draught under load: 18 feet > Port of survey: London > Voyage: sailed for New South Wales > > (Red Book - Shipowners) > Master: Captain Johnston > Rigging: Ship; 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1822; copper repaired in > 1825 > Tonnage: 528 tons > Construction: 1810 in River; major repairs in 1819; new sales, top > sides, > deck & major repairs in 1825 > Owners: Mangles > Draught under load: 18 feet > Port of survey: London > Voyage: sailed for a) New South Wales; b) India >