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    1. Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE
    2. Charmaine Maher

    3. www.bdm.nsw.gov.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Owen" <angio@fishinternet.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Hi Phillip, > Where do I find NSW BDM site Please > Angie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:13 > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > Claire, > > > > From NSW BDM Births > > > > 4019/1877 CRANE, FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY E, at > > CONCORD > > > > 4435/1880 CRANE REGINALD FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY > > ELEANOR, at CONCORD > > > > 4179/1878 CRANE ETHEL J G - father FREDERICK, mother MARY E at CONCORD > > > > There's six more in the next decade! > > > > Any help? > > > > Philip C > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > I don't know where they arrived and strictly where they left from but I > > > would assume somewhere from Worcester > > > > > > Frederick William CRANE was born in Dudley, Worcester in 1859/60.He came > > to > > > Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate lists his > > parents > > > as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no trace of his > > parents > > > in Victoria. > > > > > > Frederick died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the > colony. > > > I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but there is no > > William > > > and Mary Crane that I can find, but by no means am I experienced enough > to > > > find them all. > > > > > > On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in > Worcester > > in > > > 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. (she may be a sibling) > > > There is also a record of a Henry CRANE, b 1857, > > > Joseph CRANE b. 1860, > > > Sarah CRANE b. 1860. > > > These people may bear no relation to my GG but they could be siblings or > > > cousins. If the whole family came out to Australia > > > together they may be on shipping lists as a group > > > > > > Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very > grateful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did they arrive and where from? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:29 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be > said > > of > > > > > Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 with > > > young > > > > > frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where to > > look > > > > > folks? > > > > > Claire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a > > ride > > > on > > > > a > > > > > > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > > > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have > > appeared > > > > > here > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > > > > > records, > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > > records, > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    04/29/2002 12:49:59
    1. Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE
    2. Angie Owen

    3. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charmaine Maher" <tcandr@ihug.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 6:49 Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > www.bdm.nsw.gov.au > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angie Owen" <angio@fishinternet.com.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:19 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > Hi Phillip, > > Where do I find NSW BDM site Please > > Angie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 9:13 > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > Claire, > > > > > > From NSW BDM Births > > > > > > 4019/1877 CRANE, FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY E, at > > > CONCORD > > > > > > 4435/1880 CRANE REGINALD FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY > > > ELEANOR, at CONCORD > > > > > > 4179/1878 CRANE ETHEL J G - father FREDERICK, mother MARY E at > CONCORD > > > > > > There's six more in the next decade! > > > > > > Any help? > > > > > > Philip C > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where they arrived and strictly where they left from but > I > > > > would assume somewhere from Worcester > > > > > > > > Frederick William CRANE was born in Dudley, Worcester in 1859/60.He > came > > > to > > > > Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate lists his > > > parents > > > > as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no trace of his > > > parents > > > > in Victoria. > > > > > > > > Frederick died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the > > colony. > > > > I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but there is no > > > William > > > > and Mary Crane that I can find, but by no means am I experienced > enough > > to > > > > find them all. > > > > > > > > On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in > > Worcester > > > in > > > > 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. (she may be a sibling) > > > > There is also a record of a Henry CRANE, b 1857, > > > > Joseph CRANE b. 1860, > > > > Sarah CRANE b. 1860. > > > > These people may bear no relation to my GG but they could be siblings > or > > > > cousins. If the whole family came out to Australia > > > > together they may be on shipping lists as a group > > > > > > > > Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very > > grateful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where did they arrive and where from? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:29 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be > > said > > > of > > > > > > Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 > with > > > > young > > > > > > frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where > to > > > look > > > > > > folks? > > > > > > Claire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a > > > ride > > > > on > > > > > a > > > > > > > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > > > > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have > > > appeared > > > > > > here > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > genealogy > > > > > > > records, > > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy > > > > > > records, > > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > > records, > > > > > > go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    04/29/2002 01:23:07