Hello, I’m looking for Charles Spencer Deverall, believed to have been born in Wales,1808, who emigrated to Australia in 1860 or thereabouts, and settled in Victoria. I've been told the ship he came on was named Therese but have not found any record of a ship of this name. Can anyone give me any pointers please. I am aware that there was a Charles Deverall born 1811 in Manchester who was apparently transported, but I don't think this is the same person TIA I would be grateful for any help. Sally in N.Z. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 3:02 p.m.

Hi Michael, Well that's certainly very interesting. I must have a read of Gillian's book, and find out what happened to Zachariah Timms. Janet Turner, who arrived "Fairlie" 1848 married my gggrandfather, James Oakley in 1849. Thankyou very much for your reply, and sending my email on to Gillian Kelly. I hope she can tell me more about the "Fairlie" voyage and passengers, especially Janet. With regards your ancestors Henry Dewey and Ellen Kenny who settled at Rylstone- Janet Turner who married James Oakley also lived at Rylstone 1850's. James worked as a shepherd at Dabee. Where did Henry work? Kind regards, Susan, Central Coast NSW. On 6/19/07, Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Susan > > Not sure if she subscribes to this list, but Gillian Kelly documented > the Lacemakers who travelled to Oz, including the Fairlie occupants, in > her book "Well-suited to the colony". Janet Turner warrants a brief > mention, referring to her being pregnant on boarding and marrying > Zachariah Timms shortly after arrival. Not much on the captain, I'm > afraid. > > My ancestors Henry Dewey, from Calais, and Ellen Kenny, from Ireland, > were on board, and married on arrival in Sydney, eventually settling > near Rylstone. > > Gillian may have more info. I will forward this email to her. > > Michael Tuite > Canberra > > > > >

please reply to the list, I have lacemakers too. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Susan > > Not sure if she subscribes to this list, but Gillian Kelly documented > the Lacemakers who travelled to Oz, including the Fairlie occupants, in > her book "Well-suited to the colony". Janet Turner warrants a brief > mention, referring to her being pregnant on boarding and marrying > Zachariah Timms shortly after arrival. Not much on the captain, I'm > afraid. > > My ancestors Henry Dewey, from Calais, and Ellen Kenny, from Ireland, > were on board, and married on arrival in Sydney, eventually settling > near Rylstone. > > Gillian may have more info. I will forward this email to her. > > Michael Tuite > Canberra > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: > 18/06/2007 3:02 PM > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sally, have you tried googling <Therese site:mariners.records.nsw.gov.au> and <Charles Deverall site:mariners.records.nsw.gov.au> and see what comes up. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Sally Willmot <sallywillmot@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > > > Hello, > I’m looking for Charles Spencer Deverall, believed to have been born in > Wales,1808, who emigrated to Australia in 1860 or thereabouts, and > settled > in Victoria. I've been told the ship he came on was named Therese but > have > not found any record of a ship of this name. Can anyone give me any > pointers > please. > > I am aware that there was a Charles Deverall born 1811 in Manchester > who > was apparently transported, but I don't think this is the same person > > TIA I would be grateful for any help. > Sally in N.Z. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: > 18/06/2007 > 3:02 p.m. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is the Sydney General Trade List and Shipping Gazette and where do I find it?? Thankyou. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus.

Hi List I have been following the "Fairlee" postings and found the suggested site on the Sydney General Trade List and Shipping Gazette very interesting and helpful. My GGGrandfather was on the "Castle Eden" and arrived October 1848 with his wife and children, 1 died on route. He was listed as a shepherd and they were assisted immigrants. Anyway my question is how do I find out who sponsored his migration to Australia? as his whereabouts from the time of arrival up until 1854 is unknown. I know that his wife, Jane had co-habitated with another man by the end of 1850 and was living in Dalby Qld and I think Alexander may have been in Qld prior to that and then the next record of him is in 1854 where he had a bigamist marriage to another in Maitland and then moving to Ginninderra Creek in the Yass area in which I assume he was still a shepherd and sometimes a gold digger. So I guess I am trying to find out if there is a list of people who sponsored the migrants for their fare and also if there is immigration list from NSW to Qld? Regards Sharon

Susan Not sure if she subscribes to this list, but Gillian Kelly documented the Lacemakers who travelled to Oz, including the Fairlie occupants, in her book "Well-suited to the colony". Janet Turner warrants a brief mention, referring to her being pregnant on boarding and marrying Zachariah Timms shortly after arrival. Not much on the captain, I'm afraid. My ancestors Henry Dewey, from Calais, and Ellen Kenny, from Ireland, were on board, and married on arrival in Sydney, eventually settling near Rylstone. Gillian may have more info. I will forward this email to her. Michael Tuite Canberra No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 3:02 PM

Hi Marg, Thanks for that. I had actually looked at that Fergusson Project site just recently and found that info re Fairlie. I have looked at "Fairlie" indent on microfilm at local library. Only wrote down ancestor's details, not of who other passengers were, which I must do one day. I've also found Sydney Morning Herald report of "Fairlie" arrival. However, having difficulty 100 percent confirming gggrandmother's origins in Scotland. So wondered if there would be a clue in anything re by or about captain and agent William Davis or Dr Wilkinson (who may have delivered her baby). Especially wondered, as Janet was an assisted immigrant, who would have sponsored her voyage, what role Captain Davis as agent, would have had, and if he had recorded anything about it where I might find it. Kind regards, Susan NSW. On 6/19/07, MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:44 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE > > > > > Hi Susan > > > I'm asking for assistance please from anyone knowing > > what part the captain, > > William Davis, would have played as also being "agent" > > for the ship > > "Fairlie" to NSW, 1848. > > > This ship arrived in Sydney 8 Aug 1848 . Is alittle info > in > > http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html > > Might be abit more in the Sydney Morning Herald of around > the same date > > This ship also carried quite a few 'Lacemakers from > Calais' .so could be worth following up that research > > Bye > MargM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:44 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE Hi Susan > I'm asking for assistance please from anyone knowing > what part the captain, > William Davis, would have played as also being "agent" > for the ship > "Fairlie" to NSW, 1848. This ship arrived in Sydney 8 Aug 1848 . Is alittle info in http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html Might be abit more in the Sydney Morning Herald of around the same date This ship also carried quite a few 'Lacemakers from Calais' .so could be worth following up that research Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Hello fellow researchers, I've tried sending mail to this list recently and messed it up a bit- sorry about that- will try again. I'm asking for assistance please from anyone knowing what part the captain, William Davis, would have played as also being "agent" for the ship "Fairlie" to NSW, 1848. My gggrandmother Janet Turner and baby arrived on Fairlie as assisted immigrants. Janet was 24, a dairymaid from Fifeshire, Scotland. She could read but not write, Presbyterian, single, no family in colony. A number of the passengers were young Irish orphan women from the Cork Foundling Hospital. Some other passengers were Calais embrioderers. Others were from England, skilled in a number of trades. Kind regards, Susan NSW.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Keeley" <bobkeeley@tesco.net> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Keeley > Hi All > > I'm trying to track down a distant Aunt and need some > help. I am trying to > find Annie Keeley b1902 Henley-on-Thames, England. All > we know is that she > emigrated to Australia between 1918 and 1926 (believed > to be earlier rather > than later), married and had 2 daughters. Last heard of > living in the Perth > area. There is some doubt as to whether she married > before she left England > but I have checked the GRO records and can find no trace > of a marriage so I > am assuming she married in Australia. Hi Bob I am guessing from your email address your aren't a local ? See http://www.openwindows.com/marriage/spouse.asp Only 1 Annie KEELEY in this ........ She married a Edward L LOVE in 1930 He isn't in the WW2 roll . Perth's cemetery indexes are on line See http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php There is an Annie Mary LOVE d 1987 aged 86 yo ??? Sort of fits ?????? No Edward L LOVE but lots of other cemeteries in this wide brown land HTH Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

Kind Regards, Hugh and Belinda McBroom 52 Malcomson St North Mackay Qld 4740 (07) 4942 2039 or 0427 412 953 -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Horwood Sent: Tuesday, 12 June 2007 3:20 PM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Patterson Attention MEG I received an e-mail from MEG re my question on reserching my grandfather Samuel Patterson from Donegal Ireland Unfortunately I could not access the e-mail and would appreciate if Meg would send it again Thank you Pat Horwood ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 6/11/2007 5:10 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 5:10 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 5:10 PM

Attention MEG I received an e-mail from MEG re my question on reserching my grandfather Samuel Patterson from Donegal Ireland Unfortunately I could not access the e-mail and would appreciate if Meg would send it again Thank you Pat Horwood

Hi Maureen You can't believe how pleased I was to get your e-mail this morning. I have been sesarching for a lead to my grandfather for a couple of years now. I have a feeling that this is the right Patterson, as he had a sister named Mary and his first son Sidney, had a second name Thomas. I will certainly check out, if possible, any more information from the "Samuel Plimsoll" If you have come across this name while researching your family. please contact me again. Perhaps we have an ancestor in common. or if you have any further information I have all of his history from the time he lived and married in Sydney, including War Records from his service in the Boar War and W W 1. I would be happy to share any information you are interested in Thank you again and hope to hear more from you Pat Horwood From: "Maureen" <79hael63@swiftdsl.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FW: researching > Would that be the Samuel PATTERSON, born abt. 1863 in Donegal - parents > Thomas PATTERSON and Mary JOHNSTON? > > If so, aged 17 years he arrived with his family in Sydney 9th July, 1880, on > the 'Samuel Plimsoll'. They were Assisted Immigrants - the person who paid > the 'Deposit' was Jas. PATTERSON. > > Maureen in Sydney > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Pat Horwood > Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 2:43 PM > To: aus-immigration-ships-admin@rootsweb.com > Subject: researching > > I am researching my family history and have come up with one problem > > My frandfather -= Samuel Patterson - lived in Donegal > > Sorry, don't know the town > > He was apprenticed to a firm in Scotland and may have left from Ireland or > Scotland for Australia > > I estimate he was born about 1870 as he fought in the Boar War from > Australia in 1900 > > Are there passenger lists available from about 1890 to 1895? > > If so, how can I access the recored? > > Thank you for any help > > Yours faithfully > > Pat Horwood > > My address is 1/110 OAKS AVENUE > DEE WHY N S W > AUSTRALIA 2099 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/842 - Release Date: 9/06/2007 10:46 AM > >

Thanks for the help Lynne, much appreciated. Voynnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Roberts & Williams > Hi Voynnie, > Can only help with the following reference. > > CAROLINE 12 10 1878 Maryborough London 14 06 1878 > PL M1698 (imm/115-imm/116) > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Voynnie Amos" <voynniea@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:27 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Roberts & Williams > > >>I am wondering if anyone can help me find shipping records for firstly, >>Elizabeth and John Roberts who came to Australia about 1878 >> and I understand they came on the "Caroline". Their children were born in >> Maryborough and Bundaberg. >> >> Also Elizabeth's brother James Williams. James appears on the 1871 >> census >> in Cornwall but I cannot find him in 1881 census. He married in Gympie >> in 1888. Would appreciate any help available. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Would that be the Samuel PATTERSON, born abt. 1863 in Donegal - parents Thomas PATTERSON and Mary JOHNSTON? If so, aged 17 years he arrived with his family in Sydney 9th July, 1880, on the 'Samuel Plimsoll'. They were Assisted Immigrants - the person who paid the 'Deposit' was Jas. PATTERSON. Maureen in Sydney -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Pat Horwood Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 2:43 PM To: aus-immigration-ships-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: researching I am researching my family history and have come up with one problem My frandfather -= Samuel Patterson - lived in Donegal Sorry, don't know the town He was apprenticed to a firm in Scotland and may have left from Ireland or Scotland for Australia I estimate he was born about 1870 as he fought in the Boar War from Australia in 1900 Are there passenger lists available from about 1890 to 1895? If so, how can I access the recored? Thank you for any help Yours faithfully Pat Horwood My address is 1/110 OAKS AVENUE DEE WHY N S W AUSTRALIA 2099

Thanks for your message Lynne. Yes thanks, I have all the BMD, just looking for Percy's arrival Cheers, Bob in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Percy BENSON > Hi Bob, > Dare say you have the following, > > 1909/C009403 Benson Albert Edward Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence > Hopper > > 1911/C010051 Benson Alfred George Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence > Hopper > > 1913/C011491 Benson Leonard Arthur Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence > Hopper > > 1915/C002792 Benson Sidney Vernon Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence > Hopper > > Still no find of Percy's arrival. > > Kind regards, > Lynne snip>

-----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Pat Horwood Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 2:43 PM To: aus-immigration-ships-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: researching I am researching my family history and have come up with one problem My frandfather -= Samuel Patterson - lived in Donegal Sorry, don't know the town He was apprenticed to a firm in Scotland and may have left from Ireland or Scotland for Australia I estimate he was born about 1870 as he fought in the Boar War from Australia in 1900 Are there passenger lists available from about 1890 to 1895? If so, how can I access the recored? Thank you for any help Yours faithfully Pat Horwood My address is 1/110 OAKS AVENUE DEE WHY N S W AUSTRALIA 2099 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 10/06/2007 1:39 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 10/06/2007 1:39 PM

Hi Lynne, A big thankyou for your help re "Fairlie" records 1848. The Shipping Gazette site was interesting. Coincidentally I had browed that site tonight, but had overlooked the Fairlie entry, so was glad you directed me straight to it. I would have missed it. I notice it stated the "agent" was the captain, Davis. What does this mean do you know? Can anyone advise how I would find more out about Davis's activities as agent. I'd like to know what these agents did re finding the passengers in the first place. My gggrandmother Janet was from Scotland and was an "assisted immigrant"-not sure what that means either. How can I find out where they went to after leaving "Fairlie"? Suppose they would have gone to the Female Immigration Depot? Kind regards, Susan NSW. On 6/11/07, Lynne Radford <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Susan, > A full list of passengers are on State Archives NSW > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/ > under, Sydney and Newcastle, 1844-59 > Just toggle down to ship Fairlie. > > Year Month Day Ship Name Type Page No Series > > 1848 Aug 8 FAIRLIE BARQUE Page 074 1841_1866 > > > >From Log of Logs, Vol 1. By Ian Nicholson > 1848, Bark, Master Davis, Left London 22/4/1848 - Plymouth - Sydney > arrived 7/8/1848, with immigrants + report published in *Sydney Morning > Herald of 8/8/1848. > > FAIRLIE 07 08 1848 Botany Bay ... ... > AL 2135 (source , Film) > > Master: Davis > Rigging: barque > Weight: 755 > Origin: 22nd Apr 1848 London > Destination: 7th Aug 1848 Sydney > > http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html > Fergusson Project > You will find information of the arrival of the Fairlie > on > Volume 5, Number 230 (12 August, 1848) > Page 189-192 > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Keeley > > > > > I wanted to ask, if anyone has the passenger list for "Fairlie" arrived > > Sydney NSW > > 1848, with my gggranmother Janet Turner on board and baby son. > > Does anyone have any info on "Fairlie"- surgeon's diary, any accounts at > > all? > > Kind regards, > > Susan Lamberton > > NSW. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bob, Dare say you have the following, 1909/C009403 Benson Albert Edward Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence Hopper 1911/C010051 Benson Alfred George Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence Hopper 1913/C011491 Benson Leonard Arthur Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence Hopper 1915/C002792 Benson Sidney Vernon Ryton Percy Harold Ryton Florence Hopper Still no find of Percy's arrival. Kind regards, Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au> To: "Email Ships" <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Percy BENSON > Hello from Melbourne. I am looking for any assistance with my research. > > My Grandfather, Percy Harold Ryton BENSON was a ship's stoker in June