Hi Carolyn, FreeBDM has http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Births Mar 1855 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shephard Hannah Elizabeth Ledbury 6a 406 > 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and 1861(to a George and > Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of a > George SHEPHARD in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of > Charlotte. Births NSW 593/1859 SHEPHARD GEORGE CHARLOTTE SYDNEY 5069/1862 SHEPHARD JAMES GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST 5533/1866 SHEPHARD ELIZA GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST 6557/1870 SHEPHARD WILLIAM GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST 6729/1872 SHEPHARD GEORGE GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST 7340/1874 SHEPHARD JOSEPH GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST Deaths NSW 4712/1876 SHEPHARD JOSEPH GEORGE CHARLOTTE BATHURST 4187/1879 SHEPHARD GEORGE JAMES SARAH BATHURST 1872 Grevilles Directory NSW SHEPPARD George farmer Wallaby Joe's Ck. Rockley Kind regards, Lynne > Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) arrived in Australia (more > than likely Sydney) in about 1859. They were George and Charlotte. > > > > I have tried every available source to find the possible name of the ship > or a ship listing them as passengers, to no avail. Would anyone know where > on earth I could look? > > When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he died in 1879, > Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", > Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916.

I am very grateful to you all. Thank you for responding ! Yes, I have written to several lists in the last few months. I was told I was on the wrong List! Sorry if I've bored you. I only have George SHEPHARD's Death Certificate. It said, to be brief that when he died in 1879 that he had been married for 25 years to Charlotte SHEPHARD and had been 20 years in N.S.W. The Informant was his wife Charlotte and his parents were listed as James SHEPHARD, Farmer and Sarah WINTERBOTTOM. Birth was "Yorkshire". He died on 7 Mar, 1879 and was buried on 19th Mar, 1879 (? bit of a gap: wonder why?) at Jumper's Flat (?) by Carl Asimus (acting undertaker) (He was Hannah Elizabeth SHEPHARD's husband) and the officiating minister was Wesleyan, by the name of W.C HUGHES. Witnesses were John NIGHTINGALE and Dominic ENGLISH, whom I think were related to him. I am tomorrow obtaining Charlotte's DC from Joy Murrin. I doubt that it will tell me anything different, though. Still.............one can hope!! Many thanks, Carolyn.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> To: "aus-immigration-ships" <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] NAMES OF SHIPS ARRIVING ABT 1859 Hi Carolyn > Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) First you need to try and sort out the more likely of these 3 spellings > arrived in Australia (more than likely Sydney) in about > 1859 Many people would have arrvived in say Victoria then after all while decided to go north. . They were George and Charlotte. > > Family story goes that George and Charlotte were married > in England, Do you have proof of this ....like copy of their marriage cert ? This could give you a fixed proven date to work from sold everything and bought a ship in which they sailed to Australia with 2 little daughters, Hannah Elizabeth and Sarah Ann and baby Mary Jane was born at >sea, supposedly in "abt 1860." Do you have any doc to substaniate this .............. Her death cert perhaps ? They then sold the ship and bought a bullock and dray and travelled across the <Blue Mountains to Rockley near Bathurst N.S.W. Why there, I wonder ? Did they own this land or were they tenants ? If the owned land title records can easily be searched and that would give you another date > A researcher checked the 'supposed' marriage on 17 Apr, > 1854, Derbyshire UK, but it certainly couldn't be found. > (Family member's information.) > > 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and > 1861(to a George and Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: > N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of a George SHEPHARD > in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of > Charlotte. > What info on their children is given on their death certs ? and any ref to number of year married ? > > I have tried every available source to find the possible > name of the ship or a ship listing them as passengers, > to no avail. Would anyone know where on earth I could > look? > The Colonial goverment was only interested in people who owed it money . If someone paid their own fare they didnt want to know about it . > When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he > died in 1879, Son of James & Sarah on 7 Mar 1879.............. there a admin ref this in the NSW Probate indexes # 4626 Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916. > 31 Dec 1915 and she left a will ......#72858 ( I think ........ fiche is abit fuzzy) aged 83 so born about 1833. All refs I found were spelt SHERHARD except for Charlotte in the Probate index where is was spelt HERD You need to get some docs to get some facts and cut out alot of 'supposed' stuff. Was there any death notice for Charlotte in the Bathurst newspaper ? Bye MargM Beautiful Wyong Shire NSW

I just had a look too. I don't know where they put private ship arrivals. PRO might be a place to try too. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Robyn Gross <regross@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Carolyn, > > I think you have posted this before, possibly on another list . > > I have tried looking for their arrivals with no luck, so I didn't > reply.I > have been thinking about the problem since then. If the family story is > true > than they most likely would not have been recorded by the officials of > the > day! Other listers may disagree!!! This means that thye would not be on > the > records databases availble to us researchers. > > I feel it would be an idea to look at newspapers of the day to see if > you > can see if he advertised his ship for sale, he would have to have made > some > effort to sell it. I am sure that some are availblae on line but feel > you > made need to visit the Statae Library in Sydney . Do you know what it > was > called? > > Are there any early land records?? When do they start?? > > Don't discarad alternative spellings Shippard Shepyard etc. > > Aprt from this I can not suggest any other avenues but othre listers > whose > expertise is wonderful may have other ideas. > > best wishes and goo dluck > > Robyn in Wodonga > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > To: "aus-immigration-ships" <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:59 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] NAMES OF SHIPS ARRIVING ABT 1859 > > > > Greetings, > > > > First posting to the List, so please excuse lack of knowledge and > confusion. > > > > Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) arrived in Australia > (more > than likely Sydney) in about 1859. They were George and Charlotte. > > > > Family story goes that George and Charlotte were married in England, > sold > everything and bought a ship in which they sailed to Australia with 2 > little > daughters, Hannah Elizabeth and Sarah Ann and baby Mary Jane was born at > sea, supposedly in "abt 1860." They then sold the ship and bought a > bullock > and dray and travelled across the Blue Mountains to Rockley near > Bathurst > N.S.W. where they stayed and had a further 7 children from 1862. > > > > A researcher checked the 'supposed' marriage on 17 Apr, 1854, > Derbyshire > UK, but it certainly couldn't be found. (Family member's information.) > > > > 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and 1861(to a George > and > Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of a > George > SHEPHARD in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of Charlotte. > > > > There is loads more...........................(for another posting.) > > > > I have tried every available source to find the possible name of the > ship > or a ship listing them as passengers, to no avail. Would anyone know > where > on earth I could look? > > > > When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he died in 1879, > Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", > Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916. > > > > As well, what would be the route of such a ship? Could they have > stopped > off somewhere and have been included in a Census (foreign)? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Carolyn. Bathurst. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carolyn, I think you have posted this before, possibly on another list . I have tried looking for their arrivals with no luck, so I didn't reply.I have been thinking about the problem since then. If the family story is true than they most likely would not have been recorded by the officials of the day! Other listers may disagree!!! This means that thye would not be on the records databases availble to us researchers. I feel it would be an idea to look at newspapers of the day to see if you can see if he advertised his ship for sale, he would have to have made some effort to sell it. I am sure that some are availblae on line but feel you made need to visit the Statae Library in Sydney . Do you know what it was called? Are there any early land records?? When do they start?? Don't discarad alternative spellings Shippard Shepyard etc. Aprt from this I can not suggest any other avenues but othre listers whose expertise is wonderful may have other ideas. best wishes and goo dluck Robyn in Wodonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> To: "aus-immigration-ships" <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] NAMES OF SHIPS ARRIVING ABT 1859 > Greetings, > > First posting to the List, so please excuse lack of knowledge and confusion. > > Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) arrived in Australia (more than likely Sydney) in about 1859. They were George and Charlotte. > > Family story goes that George and Charlotte were married in England, sold everything and bought a ship in which they sailed to Australia with 2 little daughters, Hannah Elizabeth and Sarah Ann and baby Mary Jane was born at sea, supposedly in "abt 1860." They then sold the ship and bought a bullock and dray and travelled across the Blue Mountains to Rockley near Bathurst N.S.W. where they stayed and had a further 7 children from 1862. > > A researcher checked the 'supposed' marriage on 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire UK, but it certainly couldn't be found. (Family member's information.) > > 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and 1861(to a George and Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of a George SHEPHARD in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of Charlotte. > > There is loads more...........................(for another posting.) > > I have tried every available source to find the possible name of the ship or a ship listing them as passengers, to no avail. Would anyone know where on earth I could look? > > When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he died in 1879, Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916. > > As well, what would be the route of such a ship? Could they have stopped off somewhere and have been included in a Census (foreign)? > > Kind regards, > > Carolyn. Bathurst. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Could anyone advise please how I can find out what happened to Fairlie passenger 1848 to Sydney, Zaccheus Timms, who shortly after arrival married another passenger, assisted immigrant Janet Turner, at St James Church of England church in Sydney? Zaccheus was 22, a farm labourer from Wickham, Oxfordshire, His religion was Church of England and he could read and write. Thanks, Susan NSW.

Carolyn, Try googling the following <shephard site:mariners.records.nsw.gov.au> you'll get a list of ships, just go thru till you find the one you want. Don't try it as a website, it won't work, google. Cheers. Anne from Cairns, Aus. > Carolyn and Darryl <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Greetings, > > First posting to the List, so please excuse lack of knowledge and > confusion. > > Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) arrived in Australia > (more than likely Sydney) in about 1859. They were George and Charlotte. > > Family story goes that George and Charlotte were married in England, > sold everything and bought a ship in which they sailed to Australia with > 2 little daughters, Hannah Elizabeth and Sarah Ann and baby Mary Jane > was born at sea, supposedly in "abt 1860." They then sold the ship and > bought a bullock and dray and travelled across the Blue Mountains to > Rockley near Bathurst N.S.W. where they stayed and had a further 7 > children from 1862. > > A researcher checked the 'supposed' marriage on 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire > UK, but it certainly couldn't be found. (Family member's information.) > > 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and 1861(to a George > and Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of > a George SHEPHARD in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of > Charlotte. > > There is loads more...........................(for another posting.) > > I have tried every available source to find the possible name of the > ship or a ship listing them as passengers, to no avail. Would anyone > know where on earth I could look? > > When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he died in 1879, > Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", > Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916. > > As well, what would be the route of such a ship? Could they have stopped > off somewhere and have been included in a Census (foreign)? > > Kind regards, > > Carolyn. Bathurst. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings, First posting to the List, so please excuse lack of knowledge and confusion. Ancestors named SHEPHARD (SHEPPARD / SHEPHERD) arrived in Australia (more than likely Sydney) in about 1859. They were George and Charlotte. Family story goes that George and Charlotte were married in England, sold everything and bought a ship in which they sailed to Australia with 2 little daughters, Hannah Elizabeth and Sarah Ann and baby Mary Jane was born at sea, supposedly in "abt 1860." They then sold the ship and bought a bullock and dray and travelled across the Blue Mountains to Rockley near Bathurst N.S.W. where they stayed and had a further 7 children from 1862. A researcher checked the 'supposed' marriage on 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire UK, but it certainly couldn't be found. (Family member's information.) 2 unnamed daughters were born at Bathurst in 1859 and 1861(to a George and Charlotte SHEPPARD), (Source: N.S.W. BMD). There is also a birth of a George SHEPHARD in Sydney in 1859 with just the mother's name of Charlotte. There is loads more...........................(for another posting.) I have tried every available source to find the possible name of the ship or a ship listing them as passengers, to no avail. Would anyone know where on earth I could look? When George came to Bathurst, he was a farmer. After he died in 1879, Charlotte is listed as a Landholder of over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", Rockley in 1885. She died in 1916. As well, what would be the route of such a ship? Could they have stopped off somewhere and have been included in a Census (foreign)? Kind regards, Carolyn. Bathurst.

Hi Michael, So "Fairlie" passengers Henry Dewey, Ellen Kenny, Jane Corbet, Zaccheus Timms, Janet Turner, Thomas Scotton were all singles on the voyage, and married or witnessed eachother's marriages shortly after arrival. Thomas, Ellen and Janet lived in Rylstone area several years later. I suppose a support network and friendships were forged on these trips between the passengers and crew. I'm only new to this research so I'm just working things out. Helps to trace ancestors doesn't it when you find other passengers of the vessels they were on. Do you know if any of the other passengers moved to Rylstone? Regards, Susan NSW. On 6/22/07, Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Excellent Susan > > Thomas Scotten was also witness at my Henry and Ellen's wedding on 11 > August, just 4 days after arrival of the Fairlie in Sydney. > > >

Excellent Susan Thomas Scotten was also witness at my Henry and Ellen's wedding on 11 August, just 4 days after arrival of the Fairlie in Sydney. Micahel -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Lamberton Sent: Friday, 22 June 2007 2:46 PM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE Trip Hi Michael, I've checked for marriage for "Zaccheus Timms and Jennet Turner" on microfilm at library today and found it! The marriage was witnessed by Jane Corbet and Thomas Scotton, who I checked on the indent, were also on the "Fairlie" 1848. I look forward to Gillian Kelly's follow up about gggrandmother Janet and the other "Fairlie" passengers she would have known. Thankyou very much for your help. Susan. NSW.. On 6/22/07, Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Hi again Susan > > Below is a response I received from Gillian Kelly. > > "In the ship returns for the Fairlie for that trip there is quite a lot > of information about the passengers - esp the pregnant girls! It is at > the Mitchell and hard to find." > > She offered to follow-up again next week. > > Cheers > > Michael > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.4/860 - Release Date: 21/06/2007 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.4/860 - Release Date: 21/06/2007 5:53 PM

Hi to all, Would there be any way I could find out what was the name of the ship in which ancestors sailed from the UK to Australia (probably Sydney) and travelled across the Blue Mountains to Rockley (near Bathurst N.S.W.) in a bullock and dray with 3 little girls, one of whom was "born at sea" in about 1859 - 1860? Their surname was SHEPHARD: George and Charlotte and the girls were Hannah Elizabeth, Sarah Ann and Mary Jane. I have plenty more detail, but am not sure that it isn't just a 'family story'. According to family, George and Charlotte sold everything in England and bought the ship ??????? Any advice/suggestions most gratefully received. Best wishes, Carolyn.

Hi Michael, I've checked for marriage for "Zaccheus Timms and Jennet Turner" on microfilm at library today and found it! The marriage was witnessed by Jane Corbet and Thomas Scotton, who I checked on the indent, were also on the "Fairlie" 1848. I look forward to Gillian Kelly's follow up about gggrandmother Janet and the other "Fairlie" passengers she would have known. Thankyou very much for your help. Susan. NSW.. On 6/22/07, Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Hi again Susan > > Below is a response I received from Gillian Kelly. > > "In the ship returns for the Fairlie for that trip there is quite a lot > of information about the passengers - esp the pregnant girls! It is at > the Mitchell and hard to find." > > She offered to follow-up again next week. > > Cheers > > Michael > > >

Hi again Susan Below is a response I received from Gillian Kelly. "In the ship returns for the Fairlie for that trip there is quite a lot of information about the passengers - esp the pregnant girls! It is at the Mitchell and hard to find." She offered to follow-up again next week. Cheers Michael No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.4/860 - Release Date: 21/06/2007 5:53 PM

Hi Sally, There is a ship arriving of that name in Victoria, in 1860. Only two people, may be an incomplete list. >From http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/default.htm Unassisted immigrants. BIESSELL G 47 SEP 1860 THERESE F 073 001 KERSTING EDWARD CAPT - SEP 1860 THERESE F 073 001 Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Willmot" <sallywillmot@ihug.co.nz> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Charles Spencer Deverall, Ship Therese? > > Hello, > I’m looking for Charles Spencer Deverall, believed to have been born in > Wales,1808, who emigrated to Australia in 1860 or thereabouts, and settled > in Victoria. I've been told the ship he came on was named Therese but have > not found any record of a ship of this name. Can anyone give me any > pointers > please. > > I am aware that there was a Charles Deverall born 1811 in Manchester who > was apparently transported, but I don't think this is the same person

Hi Lynne, My apologies for sending complete email back, as I can't print it off at the moment and don't know how to save it. Anyway, thankyou very much for the info re "Fairlie." I'm trying to find out now more about Zaccheus Timms. Do you know if he sailed alone or was with family? I suppose the book doesn't say any more about Janet or Zaccheus? Kind regards, Susan NSW. On 6/20/07, Lynne Radford <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Susan, > I Have a copy of the book "Well suited to the Colony" by Gillian Kelly. > >From the book, page 117, re Master William Davis > "On Wednesday, 19 April the Fairlie left Deptford for Plymouth, sailed on > 1 > may. The oldest and largest of the major carriers of the lacemakers, > having > been built at Calcutta in 1810, of 756 tons. > This was at least her second voyage to Australia and this time she was > under > the orders of Master William Davis, with Frederick Wilkinson as > Superintendent surgeon. > > Janet Turner gave birth to a baby boy on board, became engaged to Zaccheus > Timms at sea and married soon after their arrival in Sydney. > > FAIRLIE 07 08 1848 Botany Bay ... ... > AL 2135 > > >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/ShipsF.htm > FAIRLIE - 1833/1838/1839/1848/1849/1856 > Master: Captain J. Cromartie (1833); Captain H. Agar (1838); > Captain Garret (1839); Captain W. Davis (1848/49); Captain > Cowan (1856) > Rigging: Ship; Barque (1856); 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1832 & 1838; > fastened with iron bolts; > sheathed in yellow metal in 1848 & 1856 > Tonnage: 755 tons > Construction: 1812 in Calcutta, using Teak; iron standards and knees; > major > repairs in 1832; > some repairs in 1838 & 1843; new wales, top sides > & > major repairs in 1856 > Owners: T. Ward (1833 - 39); J. & F. Somes (1848/56) > Draught under load: 20 feet > Port of registry: London > Port of survey: London > Voyage: sailed for India (1833); Australia (1838/56); New South Wales > (1839); Sydney & Calcutta (1848/49) > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:44 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE > > > > Hello fellow researchers, > > I've tried sending mail to this list recently and messed it up a bit- > > sorry > > about that- will try again. > > I'm asking for assistance please from anyone knowing what part the > > captain, > > William Davis, would have played as also being "agent" for the ship > > "Fairlie" to NSW, 1848. > > My gggrandmother Janet Turner and baby arrived on Fairlie as assisted > > immigrants. > > Janet was 24, a dairymaid from Fifeshire, Scotland. She could read but > not > > write, Presbyterian, single, no family in colony. > > A number of the passengers were young Irish orphan women from the Cork > > Foundling Hospital. Some other passengers were Calais embrioderers. > Others > > were from England, skilled in a number of trades. > > Kind regards, > > Susan > > NSW. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lynne, Thanks very much for your help re details of "Fairlie" 1848 and info from Gillian Kelly's book "Well-suited to The Colony" regarding passengers Janet Turner and Zaccheus Timms. I'm trying now to find out more about Zaccheus. Does the book mention any more about him or anyone else sailing with him? There was no other reference to Janet Turner in the book I gather? I know from Fairlie indent at local library (on microfilm) that there was a number of young single Irish women on board from Cork Foundling Hospital. They could read and write most of them and had embroidery, dressmaking skills etc. Janet was a dairymaid, and could read but not write. I'd like to know who sponsored her voyage on Fairlie. Does anyone on list know how I could find this information? Kind regards, Susan Lamberton nee Oakley NSW.

Hi Susan, I Have a copy of the book "Well suited to the Colony" by Gillian Kelly. >From the book, page 117, re Master William Davis "On Wednesday, 19 April the Fairlie left Deptford for Plymouth, sailed on 1 may. The oldest and largest of the major carriers of the lacemakers, having been built at Calcutta in 1810, of 756 tons. This was at least her second voyage to Australia and this time she was under the orders of Master William Davis, with Frederick Wilkinson as Superintendent surgeon. Janet Turner gave birth to a baby boy on board, became engaged to Zaccheus Timms at sea and married soon after their arrival in Sydney. FAIRLIE 07 08 1848 Botany Bay ... ... AL 2135 >From http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/ShipsF.htm FAIRLIE - 1833/1838/1839/1848/1849/1856 Master: Captain J. Cromartie (1833); Captain H. Agar (1838); Captain Garret (1839); Captain W. Davis (1848/49); Captain Cowan (1856) Rigging: Ship; Barque (1856); 2 decks; sheathed in copper in 1832 & 1838; fastened with iron bolts; sheathed in yellow metal in 1848 & 1856 Tonnage: 755 tons Construction: 1812 in Calcutta, using Teak; iron standards and knees; major repairs in 1832; some repairs in 1838 & 1843; new wales, top sides & major repairs in 1856 Owners: T. Ward (1833 - 39); J. & F. Somes (1848/56) Draught under load: 20 feet Port of registry: London Port of survey: London Voyage: sailed for India (1833); Australia (1838/56); New South Wales (1839); Sydney & Calcutta (1848/49) Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Lamberton" <susanlamberton@gmail.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:44 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE > Hello fellow researchers, > I've tried sending mail to this list recently and messed it up a bit- > sorry > about that- will try again. > I'm asking for assistance please from anyone knowing what part the > captain, > William Davis, would have played as also being "agent" for the ship > "Fairlie" to NSW, 1848. > My gggrandmother Janet Turner and baby arrived on Fairlie as assisted > immigrants. > Janet was 24, a dairymaid from Fifeshire, Scotland. She could read but not > write, Presbyterian, single, no family in colony. > A number of the passengers were young Irish orphan women from the Cork > Foundling Hospital. Some other passengers were Calais embrioderers. Others > were from England, skilled in a number of trades. > Kind regards, > Susan > NSW.

Thanks Marg, It's a bit early but tomorrow I'll check it out. Cheers. Anne. > MargM <genknut@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:30 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Sydney General Trade List and > Shipping Gazette > > > > > > What is the Sydney General Trade List and Shipping > > Gazette and where do I find it?? > > > > Its in the NLA Ferguson project........ they have been > digitising old newspapers for quite a while and more are > being done > > http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html > > > And > > http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html > > Its says newspapers from 1840 -1845 but the Commercial > Journal dates fr 1835 -1840 and the Maitland Mercury > 1843 -1855 and the Sydney Shipping Gazette goes up to 1855 > > If youve unsure of the full date of arrival of a ship into > Port of Sydney , State Records now have an on line index > of ships names and full dates > > > HTH > > Bye > MargM > Member of > Central Coast FHS > Gosford > NSW > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Sydney General Trade List and Shipping Gazette > > What is the Sydney General Trade List and Shipping > Gazette and where do I find it?? > Its in the NLA Ferguson project........ they have been digitising old newspapers for quite a while and more are being done http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html And http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/browselist.html Its says newspapers from 1840 -1845 but the Commercial Journal dates fr 1835 -1840 and the Maitland Mercury 1843 -1855 and the Sydney Shipping Gazette goes up to 1855 If youve unsure of the full date of arrival of a ship into Port of Sydney , State Records now have an on line index of ships names and full dates HTH Bye MargM Member of Central Coast FHS Gosford NSW

Susan Henry and Ellen built-up a large property at Growee. Another gggrandfather, John Purvis, on the other hand, was a stonemason who built lots of buildings around Rylstone including the homestead on Dabee station. Michael -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Lamberton Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 7:44 PM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FAIRLIE Book Hi Michael, Well that's certainly very interesting. I must have a read of Gillian's book, and find out what happened to Zachariah Timms. Janet Turner, who arrived "Fairlie" 1848 married my gggrandfather, James Oakley in 1849. Thankyou very much for your reply, and sending my email on to Gillian Kelly. I hope she can tell me more about the "Fairlie" voyage and passengers, especially Janet. With regards your ancestors Henry Dewey and Ellen Kenny who settled at Rylstone- Janet Turner who married James Oakley also lived at Rylstone 1850's. James worked as a shepherd at Dabee. Where did Henry work? Kind regards, Susan, Central Coast NSW. On 6/19/07, Michael Tuite <mtuite@netspeed.com.au> wrote: > > Susan > > Not sure if she subscribes to this list, but Gillian Kelly documented > the Lacemakers who travelled to Oz, including the Fairlie occupants, in > her book "Well-suited to the colony". Janet Turner warrants a brief > mention, referring to her being pregnant on boarding and marrying > Zachariah Timms shortly after arrival. Not much on the captain, I'm > afraid. > > My ancestors Henry Dewey, from Calais, and Ellen Kenny, from Ireland, > were on board, and married on arrival in Sydney, eventually settling > near Rylstone. > > Gillian may have more info. I will forward this email to her. > > Michael Tuite > Canberra > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 3:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 3:02 PM