Hello everyone, I am new to this list, and I hope that you can give me some help. I am searching for information on my ancestor, John Albert MITCHELL. He married Sarah Elizabeth SHAW on 2 Jun 1862, and together they had 15 children. But we can find out nothing about him before that date. There is no birth record for him in the NSW Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages. This leads me to think that he may have arrived as an immigrant from Britain. And as he married in 1862 he would probably have been born around 1840. So I suppose that migrant ships from 1840 to 1860 would be of interest, if I could find out how to get to them online. I'm an aged pensioner, so I have a limited income, and I can't afford an Ancestry sub. Can anyone please point me in the right direction to find out what ship he came on? I have just looked at a website where people will look up a passenger list for you, but you have to have the name of the ship first. And I don't have any idea. Is there perhaps a website where I can put in the surname of Mitchell and it will tell me the names of the ships that Mitchells came out on? Thank you very much, Sylvia

Hi Maureen, I'm afraid I don't have any of those names. Martin's son John Thomas moved to the Atherton Tablelands and had 3 children, Inez, John Kendall & Kitty. This is my wife's line. John Thomas had several brothers and sisters but none of those names. There was 2 brothers, Edward Martin (1878-1940) and Albert Everard (1881-1963), who lived long enough to have children but I have no details if they did. Cheers Steve O Maureen Arthur wrote: >Steve > >Do you have any other Hoffman names other than Martin's? I have them in my >tree too, in or around Brisbane in the early 1900's. Mine include William >Hoffman (or Hoffmann, it was spelt several ways in documents), who married >Harriet Lucy Oxford (haven't been able to ascertain the date) and had >children named William Phillip Hofmann (born 1906), Herbert Charles Hoffmann >(born 1908), Elsie May Hoffmann (born 1910), and Charles Rudolf Hoffmann >(born 1914). As I said, alternate spelling between Hoffman and Hoffmann. > >Please contact me if any of these names ring a bell. I don't have a Martin, >but who knows? > >Maureen. > >

Steve Do you have any other Hoffman names other than Martin's? I have them in my tree too, in or around Brisbane in the early 1900's. Mine include William Hoffman (or Hoffmann, it was spelt several ways in documents), who married Harriet Lucy Oxford (haven't been able to ascertain the date) and had children named William Phillip Hofmann (born 1906), Herbert Charles Hoffmann (born 1908), Elsie May Hoffmann (born 1910), and Charles Rudolf Hoffmann (born 1914). As I said, alternate spelling between Hoffman and Hoffmann. Please contact me if any of these names ring a bell. I don't have a Martin, but who knows? Maureen. >From: Steve Osborne <sposborne@gmail.com> >Reply-To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com >To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:40:35 +1000 > >Lisa >Many thanks. > > >>http://www.photoship.co.uk/ > >What an excellent site this is! There are in fact 2 Voorwaarts listed >but neither could be the one I am looking for. >Both are steamers and look like cargo transports. The Voorwart I found >listed carried many passengers. > > >>Eric and Rosemary Kopittke's series, "Emigrants From Hamburg to >Australia 1857-59" includes the "Voorwaarts" > >Is any of this available online that anyone knows of? I have seen >extracts from their books before and have found ancestors in them. A >trip to the library won't hurt me anyway. > > >>Owing to the German/Dutch pronunciation ie. 'f' for 'v', you may find >variations like 'Forwards', 'Forwortz', etc. > >Thanks again. I hadn't considered that. I will widen my search > >Cheers >Steve O >in blustery chilly Brisbane > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Movie session times on Messenger - add Movie Scout today! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=785&referral=hotmailtagline0707&URL=http://www.yourmovies.com.au/messenger/signup/

Forwarded by Admin On Behalf Of Debra Lynch -----Original Message----- From: mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debra Lynch Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 2:53 PM To: aus-immigration-ships-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: Irish Immigration Hello, I was wondering whether anyone could help with my enquiry. Trying to track down when my gggggrandfather arrived from Dublin. John Murphy abt 13yrs with parents John Murphy and Elizabeth nee O'Hara. For some reason I have 1835 as a year of arrival but have nothing to support that date. Many thanks, Deb

Betty I had very good luck finding Irish immigrants from aus-immigration-ships-admin@rootsweb.com Good luck Pat

Hi Listers, I'm trying to find the date the "Povidence" arrived in Australia about 1834/35. I'm trying to confirm the arrival of Ann Anderson in the company of John and Mary Ann Anderson (not her parents possibly uncle & aunt) here but I can't find any arrival for this ship in that time frame, any help would be much appreciated. Regards Cecily Smith Brisbane

----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Did he Walk on Water. ??? > Anyone > With, No Success.. i have tried just about every > Passenger/Shipping Lists available.on-line... > Still a Brick Wall. > > Really looking for" Irish Immigrants" arriving N.S.W > during the Potato Famine. incl: period.. 1845 - 1859 .. > > > because the person I am looking for was Sponsered..... > > He was aged 15 at the time and I assume travelled > alone.. > Hi Betty Have you ever checked in the NSW Immigration Deposit Journals originally published on fiche a few years ago by the ladies at Pastkeys . These indexes republished on CD about a year ago Bye MargM Member of Central Coast FHS Gosford NSW

I am trying to find the name of the Ship that John S Masson and his wife Elizabeth (Betsy) arrived in Australia. They were married 1883 in Edinburgh, and their first child Anne was born 1886 in Sydney. Any help would be appreciated. tia Voynnie

What name are you looking for? If he was sponsored you are looking for Assisted passengers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <bkrhodes@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Did he Walk on Water. ??? > Anyone > With, No Success.. i have tried just about every Passenger/Shipping > Lists available.on-line... > Still a Brick Wall. > > Really looking for" Irish Immigrants" arriving N.S.W during the Potato > Famine. incl: period.. 1845 - 1859 .. > > Not sure if *Unassisted* is the correct way to go. > > because the person I am looking for was Sponsered..... > > He was aged 15 at the time and I assume travelled alone.. > > Any pointer would be appreciated .. > > T.I.A > betty > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Anyone With, No Success.. i have tried just about every Passenger/Shipping Lists available.on-line... Still a Brick Wall. Really looking for" Irish Immigrants" arriving N.S.W during the Potato Famine. incl: period.. 1845 - 1859 .. Not sure if *Unassisted* is the correct way to go. because the person I am looking for was Sponsered..... He was aged 15 at the time and I assume travelled alone.. Any pointer would be appreciated .. T.I.A betty

Hi I am trying to find information of the ship Athenic which left Liverpool on 23rd April 1927 arriving in Albany June 6 1927 (I think). My Grandfather came to Australia on that voyage. Thanks for any help Michele

Hi Jane Yes, the 2 unnamed females in 1911, Rosena 26 in 1912 and William 1910. Any other details Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra Australia Gregh2@iinet.net.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Drayton Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:03 AM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Unassisted Passages to Australia 1910-1912 Importance: High This is this summary for those years and that surname...Anything look interesting? HUBBARD F 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD F 1911 Liverpool Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bernard M 1911 London Australia Rockhampton VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bernard 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bertram 23 M 1912 London Australia Adelaide VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Clara 25 F 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD E W 17 M 1910 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Eliz F 1911 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Ernest W 25 M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Evelyn F 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Fred M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Geo M 1911 London Australia Rockhampton VIEW VIEW HUBBARD George M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD George W 33 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD K 32 F 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD L 23 M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD L M 1911 Plymouth Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Robt M 1911 Liverpool Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Rosena 26 F 1912 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Sidney 25 M 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Sidney Charles 20 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Walter C 22 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Wm M 1910 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW On 01/07/2007, at 11:51 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > HUBBARD > > > Jane and Doug Hinton > Canberra Australia > Gregh2@iinet.net.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane > Drayton > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:32 PM > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Unassisted Passages to Australia > 1910-1912 > Importance: High > > www.findmypast.com > > What names are you searching? > > On 01/07/2007, at 10:20 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > >> >> Hi >> Would anyone have information on where I could access unassisted >> passenger lists from England to Australia for the period 1910-1912. >> >> Jane and Doug Hinton >> Canberra Australia >> Gregh2@iinet.net.au >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- >> IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is this summary for those years and that surname...Anything look interesting? HUBBARD F 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD F 1911 Liverpool Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bernard M 1911 London Australia Rockhampton VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bernard 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Bertram 23 M 1912 London Australia Adelaide VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Clara 25 F 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD E W 17 M 1910 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Eliz F 1911 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Ernest W 25 M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Evelyn F 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Fred M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Geo M 1911 London Australia Rockhampton VIEW VIEW HUBBARD George M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD George W 33 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD K 32 F 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD L 23 M 1911 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD L M 1911 Plymouth Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Robt M 1911 Liverpool Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Rosena 26 F 1912 London Australia Melbourne VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Sidney 25 M 1912 London Australia Fremantle VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Sidney Charles 20 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Walter C 22 M 1912 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW HUBBARD Wm M 1910 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW On 01/07/2007, at 11:51 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > HUBBARD > > > Jane and Doug Hinton > Canberra Australia > Gregh2@iinet.net.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane > Drayton > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:32 PM > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Unassisted Passages to Australia > 1910-1912 > Importance: High > > www.findmypast.com > > What names are you searching? > > On 01/07/2007, at 10:20 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > >> >> Hi >> Would anyone have information on where I could access unassisted >> passenger lists from England to Australia for the period 1910-1912. >> >> Jane and Doug Hinton >> Canberra Australia >> Gregh2@iinet.net.au >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- >> IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HUBBARD Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra Australia Gregh2@iinet.net.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Drayton Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:32 PM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Unassisted Passages to Australia 1910-1912 Importance: High www.findmypast.com What names are you searching? On 01/07/2007, at 10:20 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > > Hi > Would anyone have information on where I could access unassisted > passenger lists from England to Australia for the period 1910-1912. > > Jane and Doug Hinton > Canberra Australia > Gregh2@iinet.net.au > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

www.findmypast.com What names are you searching? On 01/07/2007, at 10:20 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > > Hi > Would anyone have information on where I could access unassisted > passenger > lists from England to Australia for the period 1910-1912. > > Jane and Doug Hinton > Canberra Australia > Gregh2@iinet.net.au > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Would anyone have information on where I could access unassisted passenger lists from England to Australia for the period 1910-1912. Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra Australia Gregh2@iinet.net.au

Hi Lisa, Thanks for the naturalization record. I didn't have that one. Cheryl I do know - now :-) She is my wife's cousin though they lost touch quite a few years ago. I met Cheryl just last Thursday for the first time but we didn't have much time to talk family. We have each others contact details now so I'm sure we will be in touch. I'm sure some of this research must be old hat to some of you. I started just earlier this year with some notes I'd gathered from several sources in the extended family and decided to try to put them all together. It sure does get in your blood! All the links and info provided through this list would have taken me years to track down, just through not knowing where to look, so thanks to all. Cheers Steve O Lisa Burton wrote: >Steve > >Do you already have the following? > >Martin HOFFMAN, of Prussia (Rheinprovinz), was Naturalized at Young, NSW 11 >July 1874 aged 34 yrs. > >Source: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=30 > >In the 'Remarks' column: "Certificate re this naturalisation to Hoffman >2/9/01Letter No 01.16723 in [5/6625]" > >That letter dispatched in 1901 may contain useful information for a family >historian! If it were me, I'd be ordering it from State Records NSW ... :) > >Also, using the Rootsweb Archives, I found that a Cheryl Comerford was >looking for info. re. her gggrandfather arriving per the "Porwards" ie. >"Voorwaarts". (07 October 2003 AUS-QLD-SE-Germans List) > >Perhaps you may be able to assist each other? > >The address given then was: cheryl_comerford@bigpond.com > >Rgs >Lisa >Gladstone, Q > >_________________________________________________________________ >Advertisement: Live Earth Alerts - Seven Philips home theatre systems to >win. Go now! >http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=798&referral=hotmailtagline&URL=http://liveearth.ninemsn.com.au > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Steve Do you already have the following? Martin HOFFMAN, of Prussia (Rheinprovinz), was Naturalized at Young, NSW 11 July 1874 aged 34 yrs. Source: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=30 In the 'Remarks' column: "Certificate re this naturalisation to Hoffman 2/9/01Letter No 01.16723 in [5/6625]" That letter dispatched in 1901 may contain useful information for a family historian! If it were me, I'd be ordering it from State Records NSW ... :) Also, using the Rootsweb Archives, I found that a Cheryl Comerford was looking for info. re. her gggrandfather arriving per the "Porwards" ie. "Voorwaarts". (07 October 2003 AUS-QLD-SE-Germans List) Perhaps you may be able to assist each other? The address given then was: cheryl_comerford@bigpond.com Rgs Lisa Gladstone, Q _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Live Earth Alerts - Seven Philips home theatre systems to win. Go now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=798&referral=hotmailtagline&URL=http://liveearth.ninemsn.com.au

Gayle This is fabulous stuff, thank you. The Hoffman line is on my wife's side and the Voorwart has been harder to track down than my own family who seem to have been plagued with disaster on the trips out. I have ancestors that arrived on the ill-fated La Rochelle and Wandrahm so it's nice to get some feel on the other side of the family. The entry specifically mentions stone-masons for Cornish & Bruce who appear to have built the railway to the Victorian Goldfields. This ties in with what the family recalls about Martin being a gold miner. He appears at Maryborough in Victoria during the goldrush and then in Lambing Flat in NSW during the rush there. Lots more digging here I fear. (pun intended :) Thanks again Cheers Steve O Gayle Stewart wrote: >Hi Steve >Found this from Emigrants from Hamburg by Qld FHS >Hope it helps >Gayle >Sunny Mollymook Beach. >Hamburg Passenger Lists > > > >Voorwaarts > >>From The Argus, Monday, February 6, 1860.QFHSdatasearch Version 1.8.0 by >Queensland Family History Society Inc. >>From [Emigrants from Hamburg to Australasia 1850-1879] database on 6/30/2007 >======================================================================= >No : 107 >Surname : HOFFMANN >Given Names: Martin >Town : Klosterhumbd >State : Preussen >Standing : Steinhauer >Age : 23 >Sex : m >Destination: Melbourne >Ship : Voorwaarts >Year : 1859 >ID : 14326 > > >SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. > >-----------.------------ > >HOBSON'S BAY. > >ARRIVED. > >FEBRUARY 5. > >Voorwarrts, Dutch barque, 633 tons, E. L. Kerkstra, from Hamburg 5th >October. > >Passengers-cabin : Dr. Merker, Mr. De Beer ; and 93 in the steerage. De Pass >Brothers > >and Co., agents. > >---------------------- > >VESSEL SPOKEN BY THE VOORWAARTS.-January 4, Pious, barque, from Sydney > >towards Mauritius, off Portland Bay. > >>From the Melbourner Deutsche Zeitung Friday 9 February 1860. > >( D e u t s c h e E i n w a n d e r e r . ) Nicht ohne Besorgniss erfuhren >wir, dass das > >Schiff V o r w ä r t s welches am 5ten in Hobson's Bay ankam, eine grosse >Menge > >deutscher Einwanderer brachte, und dass darunter sich an 90 für Cornish & >Bruce > >engagirte sogenannte Steinhauer befinden. Das Schicksal der vor ihnen >Angekommenen > >ist nicht derart, um vor ihren Blicken eine heitere Aussicht in die Zukunft >erscheinen zu > >lassen. Doch hoffen wir das Beste! > >The paper was expressing concern following the situation with the immigrants >by the P. C. > >Kinch. Rough translation:- > >( G e r m a n I m m i g r a n t s . ) It was not without anxiety that we >learned that > >the ship V o r w ä r t s which arrived on the 5th in Hobson's Bay had >brought a great > >crowd of German immigrants, including about 90 would-be stone masons hired >for > >Cornish & Bruce. The fate of the arrivals is not such as to allow for their >views of a > >cheerful future to be achieved. We hope for the best! > > > > > >Schiff V o r w ä r t s welches am 5ten in Hobson's Bay ankam, eine grosse >Menge > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <aus-immigration-ships-request@rootsweb.com> >To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:00 PM >Subject: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 122 > > > > >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Voorwart - Hoffman (Steve Osborne) >> 2. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (Carolyn and Darryl) >> 3. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (acpittard@optusnet.com.au) >> 4. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (Lisa Burton) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:58:56 +1000 >>From: Steve Osborne <sposborne@gmail.com> >>Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >>To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com >>Message-ID: <46842110.6010602@gmail.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >>Good morning all, >>Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - Melbourne >>1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. >>I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list but >>can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, >>sketches, photos, anything? >>If not information then possible places to look? >> >>Regards >>Steve O >>in sunny Brisbane >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:39:44 +1000 >>From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> >>Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >>To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >>Message-ID: <002e01c7b9e5$fd3a6360$0300000a@acer86e9bf2e61> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>reply-type=original >> >>Hi, Steve and All, >> >>I envy you in that you have been able to find someone listed on a Shipping >>List. My SHEPHARDs must have been stowaways, I think, because I can find >>them nowhere and they couldn't have swum, because there were 2 little >>girls >>with them and a baby "born at sea". >> >>Any clues as to how I could find them? >> >>Best wishes, >> >>Carolyn in sunny (thank Heavens this morning), Bathurst. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Steve Osborne" <sposborne@gmail.com> >>To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:58 AM >>Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >> >> >> >> >>>Good morning all, >>>Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - Melbourne >>>1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. >>>I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list but >>>can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, >>>sketches, photos, anything? >>>If not information then possible places to look? >>> >>>Regards >>>Steve O >>>in sunny Brisbane >>> >>> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 3 >>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:23:53 +1000 >>From: acpittard@optusnet.com.au >>Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >>To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com >>Message-ID: <200706290423.l5T4NwOH015910@mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au> >>Content-Type: text/plain >> >>Caroline, Mine was a master mariner, he took his family to sea with >>him & two of his sons were born off the China coast, but they were on the >>lists. Have you tried googling <shephard >>site:mariners.records.nsw.gov.au> ?? I think I gave you that one >>already eh....mmmmm. Some of mine must've swum too. >> Cheers. Anne from chilly sunny <cheering> Cairns, Aus. >> >> We just walked down to Edmonton to get the mail & investigate the >>secondhand shop. Lovely walk in the sun!! >> >> >> >> >> >>>Carolyn and Darryl <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote: >>> >>>Hi, Steve and All, >>> >>>I envy you in that you have been able to find someone listed on a >>>Shipping >>>List. My SHEPHARDs must have been stowaways, I think, because I can find >>> >>>them nowhere and they couldn't have swum, because there were 2 little >>>girls >>>with them and a baby "born at sea". >>> >>>Any clues as to how I could find them? >>> >>>Best wishes, >>> >>>Carolyn in sunny (thank Heavens this morning), Bathurst. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Steve Osborne" <sposborne@gmail.com> >>>To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:58 AM >>>Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Good morning all, >>>>Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - >>>> >>>> >>>Melbourne >>> >>> >>>>1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. >>>>I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list >>>> >>>> >>>but >>> >>> >>>>can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, >>>>sketches, photos, anything? >>>>If not information then possible places to look? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Steve O >>>>in sunny Brisbane >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 4 >>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:43:46 +1000 >>From: "Lisa Burton" <burtonlisa61@hotmail.com> >>Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >>To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com >>Message-ID: <BAY106-F31445122C41ED93468BB2ECF080@phx.gbl> >>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >> >>Steve >> >>Re. looking for an image of the ship, have you tried: >> >>http://www.photoship.co.uk/ >> >>or the German Maritime Museum website at: >> >>http://www.dsm.de/e2arcv.htm >> >>Also, I don't know what happened to Nick Vine Hall's "Ship Picture >>Research >>Service" after he passed away, but this is/was? an excellent >>webpage/service >>.... if it's still functioning. (I had real success with this service - my >>query resulted in a photograph of my 'German ship of interest' being >>located >>in an American collection!) >> >>Re. news reports - Eric and Rosemary Kopittke's series, "Emigrants From >>Hamburg to Australia 1857-59" includes the "Voorwaarts" and (some) >>extracts >>from papers of the day are usually included with each ship listed in these >>volumes. >> >>As an aside, have you considered looking at alternate spellings for >>'Voorwaarts'? Owing to the German/Dutch pronunciation ie. 'f' for 'v', you >>may find variations like 'Forwards', 'Forwortz', etc. >> >>Rgs >>Lisa >>Gladstone, Q >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife >>http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D29219&_t=762256209&_r=june07_endtext_search&_m=EXT >> >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>To contact the AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS list administrator, send an email to >>AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >>To post a message to the AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS mailing list, send an email >>to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS@rootsweb.com. >> >>__________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com >>with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >>of the >>email with no additional text. >> >> >>End of AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 122 >>***************************************************** >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Steve Found this from Emigrants from Hamburg by Qld FHS Hope it helps Gayle Sunny Mollymook Beach. Hamburg Passenger Lists Voorwaarts >From The Argus, Monday, February 6, 1860.QFHSdatasearch Version 1.8.0 by Queensland Family History Society Inc. >From [Emigrants from Hamburg to Australasia 1850-1879] database on 6/30/2007 ======================================================================= No : 107 Surname : HOFFMANN Given Names: Martin Town : Klosterhumbd State : Preussen Standing : Steinhauer Age : 23 Sex : m Destination: Melbourne Ship : Voorwaarts Year : 1859 ID : 14326 SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. -----------.------------ HOBSON'S BAY. ARRIVED. FEBRUARY 5. Voorwarrts, Dutch barque, 633 tons, E. L. Kerkstra, from Hamburg 5th October. Passengers-cabin : Dr. Merker, Mr. De Beer ; and 93 in the steerage. De Pass Brothers and Co., agents. ---------------------- VESSEL SPOKEN BY THE VOORWAARTS.-January 4, Pious, barque, from Sydney towards Mauritius, off Portland Bay. >From the Melbourner Deutsche Zeitung Friday 9 February 1860. ( D e u t s c h e E i n w a n d e r e r . ) Nicht ohne Besorgniss erfuhren wir, dass das Schiff V o r w ä r t s welches am 5ten in Hobson's Bay ankam, eine grosse Menge deutscher Einwanderer brachte, und dass darunter sich an 90 für Cornish & Bruce engagirte sogenannte Steinhauer befinden. Das Schicksal der vor ihnen Angekommenen ist nicht derart, um vor ihren Blicken eine heitere Aussicht in die Zukunft erscheinen zu lassen. Doch hoffen wir das Beste! The paper was expressing concern following the situation with the immigrants by the P. C. Kinch. Rough translation:- ( G e r m a n I m m i g r a n t s . ) It was not without anxiety that we learned that the ship V o r w ä r t s which arrived on the 5th in Hobson's Bay had brought a great crowd of German immigrants, including about 90 would-be stone masons hired for Cornish & Bruce. The fate of the arrivals is not such as to allow for their views of a cheerful future to be achieved. We hope for the best! Schiff V o r w ä r t s welches am 5ten in Hobson's Bay ankam, eine grosse Menge ----- Original Message ----- From: <aus-immigration-ships-request@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 122 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Voorwart - Hoffman (Steve Osborne) > 2. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (Carolyn and Darryl) > 3. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (acpittard@optusnet.com.au) > 4. Re: Voorwart - Hoffman (Lisa Burton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:58:56 +1000 > From: Steve Osborne <sposborne@gmail.com> > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <46842110.6010602@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Good morning all, > Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - Melbourne > 1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. > I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list but > can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, > sketches, photos, anything? > If not information then possible places to look? > > Regards > Steve O > in sunny Brisbane > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:39:44 +1000 > From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002e01c7b9e5$fd3a6360$0300000a@acer86e9bf2e61> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, Steve and All, > > I envy you in that you have been able to find someone listed on a Shipping > List. My SHEPHARDs must have been stowaways, I think, because I can find > them nowhere and they couldn't have swum, because there were 2 little > girls > with them and a baby "born at sea". > > Any clues as to how I could find them? > > Best wishes, > > Carolyn in sunny (thank Heavens this morning), Bathurst. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Osborne" <sposborne@gmail.com> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:58 AM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman > > >> Good morning all, >> Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - Melbourne >> 1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. >> I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list but >> can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, >> sketches, photos, anything? >> If not information then possible places to look? >> >> Regards >> Steve O >> in sunny Brisbane > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:23:53 +1000 > From: acpittard@optusnet.com.au > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200706290423.l5T4NwOH015910@mail17.syd.optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Caroline, Mine was a master mariner, he took his family to sea with > him & two of his sons were born off the China coast, but they were on the > lists. Have you tried googling <shephard > site:mariners.records.nsw.gov.au> ?? I think I gave you that one > already eh....mmmmm. Some of mine must've swum too. > Cheers. Anne from chilly sunny <cheering> Cairns, Aus. > > We just walked down to Edmonton to get the mail & investigate the > secondhand shop. Lovely walk in the sun!! > > > >> Carolyn and Darryl <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, Steve and All, >> >> I envy you in that you have been able to find someone listed on a >> Shipping >> List. My SHEPHARDs must have been stowaways, I think, because I can find >> >> them nowhere and they couldn't have swum, because there were 2 little >> girls >> with them and a baby "born at sea". >> >> Any clues as to how I could find them? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Carolyn in sunny (thank Heavens this morning), Bathurst. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Osborne" <sposborne@gmail.com> >> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:58 AM >> Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman >> >> >> > Good morning all, >> > Does anyone have any information about the Voorwart (Hamburg - >> Melbourne >> > 1859/60)? I am researching Martin Hoffman arriving on this ship. >> > I have the record from blaxland.com/ozships with the passenger list >> but >> > can find no other reference to this ship. Trip records, news reports, >> > sketches, photos, anything? >> > If not information then possible places to look? >> > >> > Regards >> > Steve O >> > in sunny Brisbane >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:43:46 +1000 > From: "Lisa Burton" <burtonlisa61@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Voorwart - Hoffman > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BAY106-F31445122C41ED93468BB2ECF080@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Steve > > Re. looking for an image of the ship, have you tried: > > http://www.photoship.co.uk/ > > or the German Maritime Museum website at: > > http://www.dsm.de/e2arcv.htm > > Also, I don't know what happened to Nick Vine Hall's "Ship Picture > Research > Service" after he passed away, but this is/was? an excellent > webpage/service > .... if it's still functioning. (I had real success with this service - my > query resulted in a photograph of my 'German ship of interest' being > located > in an American collection!) > > Re. news reports - Eric and Rosemary Kopittke's series, "Emigrants From > Hamburg to Australia 1857-59" includes the "Voorwaarts" and (some) > extracts > from papers of the day are usually included with each ship listed in these > volumes. > > As an aside, have you considered looking at alternate spellings for > 'Voorwaarts'? Owing to the German/Dutch pronunciation ie. 'f' for 'v', you > may find variations like 'Forwards', 'Forwortz', etc. > > Rgs > Lisa > Gladstone, Q > > _________________________________________________________________ > Advertisement: 1000s of Sexy Singles online now at Lavalife > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D29219&_t=762256209&_r=june07_endtext_search&_m=EXT > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS list administrator, send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS mailing list, send an email > to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 122 > ***************************************************** >