Any surname? On 24/07/2007, at 6:59 PM, Elsie Hemming wrote: > Ships leaving England in 1914. Thank you. Elsie Hemming > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jane & Doug, Victorian Records have http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/default.htm HUBBARD ---- MRS A JAN 1911 RANGATIRA B 816 018 HUBBARD EVELYN C JAN 1911 RANGATIRA B 816 018 HUBBARD FRED C JAN 1911 RANGATIRA B 816 018 This is what Jane has supplied. May be William came earlier, to find accommodation and work?? There should be more information on the Microfiche, which is the end numbers fiche 816, page 018. These are available at most Libraries SS Rangatiri, departed from an unknown port and arrived in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, 1912 RANGATIRA 1908 Built by Workman Clark, Belfast in 1908 for Shaw Savill & Albion, she was one of five sister ships built for the frozen meat trade. Her details were - 10,118 gross tons, length 145.69m (478ft) x beam 18.68m(61.3ft) x depth 9.54m(31.3ft), one funnel, two masts, twin screw and a speed of 13 knots. There was passenger accommodation for 1,000 steerage class in the 'tween deck space. Launched on December 16th 1908, she entered service as a frozen meat carrier in February 1909. On February 7th 1910 she was put on the Liverpool - Wellington service and in September 1914 was converted to a troopship by the Naval Dockyard at Sydney. She was wrecked on Robbin Island, Table Bay on 31.3.1916 and much of her cargo was salvaged in the five months that it took for the ship to break up. [Merchant Fleets, vol.10, Shaw Savill & Albion by Duncan Haws] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug and Jane" <gregh2@iinet.net.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ships leaving UK 1890-1929 > Hi Jane > Yes - could you please look up a ship bringing out the HUBBARD family from > England to Sydney sometime around 1911. One 3 year old infant was Eveline > Isabell HUBBARD (1908-2007), daughter of William HUBBARD and Mary > Elizabeth > TRICE. The HUBBARD family came from Kent, UK. > Cheers > > I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving > the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like > me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. > > Cheers, > > Jane

Ships leaving England in 1914. Thank you. Elsie Hemming

Hi Lance, The only entries that look like your Jefferies are an Edward and Mary Jefferies who departed London on 20 dec 1912 and landed in Fremantle WA. Both listed as 63 years old so birth date seems to match - occupations agriculture and domestic. No children mentioned. This was on the ship AJANA. There were 365 passengers on the Papanui. A James Kelman was traveling alone - listed as 24 yrs, single, farm labourer. Dept London on 18 August 1911. No Jane Kelman is listed. There is a listing for a Mr W Kelman traveling with a Mr G Kelman on the ship Kaipara which left London on the 1 Dec 1911 and arr in Fremantle. Both described as single farm labourers - no ages given. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else like ship's details, capt etc. Jane On 24/07/2007, at 3:01 AM, lance a wrote: > Hi Jane, > Thanks for the offer of a look-up of shipping to Australia. > I am trying to locate the ship and its passenger list that > brought my GGG Grandfather and his family to Australia c1907. > Edward Albert JEFFERIES b.1850, possibly Mary Ann > Jefferies nee DAVIES > (his wife) b.1852, at least two children - Edward Albert > b.1888 and > Arthur Leonard b.1893. > It is possible that more children are also present on the voyage > and possible that Mary Ann was deceased before the voyage. > > Also I need the passanger list for the 'Papanui' which arrived in > Fremantle c1911, whith my GG Grandfather James KELMAN b.1886, > posssibly accompanied by siblings and mother Jane KELMAN nee McKENZIE > Thanks for the help. > > Lance > > > Jane Drayton <draytonj@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving >> the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like >> me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jane > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited > storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane, Thanks for the offer of a look-up of shipping to Australia. I am trying to locate the ship and its passenger list that brought my GGG Grandfather and his family to Australia c1907. Edward Albert JEFFERIES b.1850, possibly Mary Ann Jefferies nee DAVIES (his wife) b.1852, at least two children - Edward Albert b.1888 and Arthur Leonard b.1893. It is possible that more children are also present on the voyage and possible that Mary Ann was deceased before the voyage. Also I need the passanger list for the 'Papanui' which arrived in Fremantle c1911, whith my GG Grandfather James KELMAN b.1886, posssibly accompanied by siblings and mother Jane KELMAN nee McKENZIE Thanks for the help. Lance Jane Drayton <draytonj@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving > the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like > me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. > > Cheers, > > Jane --------------------------------- Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. Find out more.

There is a female child Evelyn Hubbard who was traveling with a Mrs Hubbard listed as a housewife - her marital status is listed as single - and a male child Fred Ship: Rangatira 20 Jan 1911 departed London Ship's captain: R D Lowden Passengers: 1015 Ship was headed for NZ and stopped in Sydney I viewed the original image but there isn't any further information really. Cheers, Jane On 23/07/2007, at 8:51 PM, Doug and Jane wrote: > Hi Jane > Yes - could you please look up a ship bringing out the HUBBARD > family from > England to Sydney sometime around 1911. One 3 year old infant was > Eveline > Isabell HUBBARD (1908-2007), daughter of William HUBBARD and Mary > Elizabeth > TRICE. The HUBBARD family came from Kent, UK. > Cheers > > Jane and Doug Hinton > Canberra Australia > Gregh2@iinet.net.au > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane > Drayton > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:41 PM > To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ships leaving UK 1890-1929 > > > Hi all, > > I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving > the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like > me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. > > Cheers, > > Jane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Robyn, You must have learned Latin!! There is no plural of ASIMUS (not from the Latin anyway: seeing that it is a German surname.} ASIMUS plural would have to be ASIMUS (? 4th declension): I have also seen it spelt as ASSIMUS on the nsw. bdm. I am just trying to work out why they came to Rockley, as did the SHEPHARDs within a year or so? Was there land available there or what? Why Rockley (about ? 70 kms from Bathurst?) Way away from anywhere at that time. Family story (loads of rubbish I am sure!) says that the SHEPHARDs 'knew that they were going there' ! Do you have any idea how I can find out why Rockley was "the place to be" ? Best wishes and thank you, Carolyn. Bathurst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Horan" <robynvh2@gmail.com> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > Hi Carolyn > > I used to live in Orange and I can remember a few Asimuses (Asimi? What's > the plural?) living in the region. It's not a very common name so they > probably are distant rellies. Try the White Pages. > > Cheers > > Robyn > > > On 23/07/07, Carolyn and Darryl <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, Lynne, >> >> I feel very thankful to you. (So speedy, too!) >> >> Carl ASIMUS became the husband of Hannah Elizabeth SHEPHARD (the eldest >> daughter of the family about whom I'm always talking and asking!) >> >> When I saw the date of his arrival into AUS, I sort-of wondered if the >> SHEPHARDs could have arrived on the same ship. I had seen that passenger >> list and as usual, I'm fast becoming used to the fact that they were >> probably amongst the myriad of "Unassisted" arrivals viz. X married >> couples, >> X children under age x etc. >> >> Still, Carl became a farmer at Rockley N.S.W. and so did Hannah >> Elizabeth's >> parents (viz. "Bathurst Landholders 1885" Bathurst FHG.) >> >> Today I received the packages of wills and probates for Hannah >> Elizabeth's >> parents, George and Charlotte from Maria Skierawski who has recently >> started >> a great research service.(vg, too!) >> >> Very exciting to read a will of 1879 drafted in original Solicitor's >> handwriting ! >> >> Still, as yet, no clue as to their birthplaces or date of marriage. >> >> I thank you very much for your ideas. >> >> Carolyn. Bathurst N.S.W. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> >> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 >> >> >> > Hello Carolyn, >> >>From State Records NSW >> > >> > Search hits Surname FirstName NativePlace DateOfCertificate >> RegisterNo >> > Page Remarks Item Reel Order >> > ASIMUS Charles Germany 25 Oct 1870 3 110 - [4/1202] 130 >> > ASIMUS Frederick Germany 20 Mar 1873 3 134 - [4/1202] 134 >> > ASIMUS Jacob Germany 3 Apr 1894 12 172 - [4/1211] 136 >> > ASIMUS John Fredrick Germany 19 Apr 1875 4 3 - [4/1203] 130 >> > >> > >> >>From http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1857/09/013ara.htm >> > >> > The arrival of ARAGO, not a full list of passengers. >> > >> > http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ >> > >> > arrival: Arago >> > Source >> > Master: J C C Kolling >> > Origin: Hamburg >> > Destination: 7th Sep 1857 Sydney >> > >> > Ref: e-11568 >> > >> > There are a number of records for surname Asimus, on National Archives >> > Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ >> > >> > Gould Books has >> > >> http://www.gould.com.au/Emigrants-Hamburg-to-Australia-1857-59-p/qfh013.htm >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. >> > >> > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 >> > >> > >> >> Hi, All, >> >> >> >> Ancestor Carl ASIMUS arrived Sydney on the above ship and date. He was >> of >> >> German descent. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know anything about this ship or its passengers or the >> ASIMUS >> >> family who lived in Rockley N.S.W. and are mentioned in "The Rockley >> >> Manner" ?

Hi Jane Yes - could you please look up a ship bringing out the HUBBARD family from England to Sydney sometime around 1911. One 3 year old infant was Eveline Isabell HUBBARD (1908-2007), daughter of William HUBBARD and Mary Elizabeth TRICE. The HUBBARD family came from Kent, UK. Cheers Jane and Doug Hinton Canberra Australia Gregh2@iinet.net.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-immigration-ships-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Drayton Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:41 PM To: aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ships leaving UK 1890-1929 Hi all, I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. Cheers, Jane ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, I have a subscription with Findmypast.com to check all ships leaving the UK from 1890-1929 but it expires on 31 July. If anyone would like me to do a last minute look-up I am happy to. Cheers, Jane

Hi Carolyn I used to live in Orange and I can remember a few Asimuses (Asimi? What's the plural?) living in the region. It's not a very common name so they probably are distant rellies. Try the White Pages. Cheers Robyn On 23/07/07, Carolyn and Darryl <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi, Lynne, > > I feel very thankful to you. (So speedy, too!) > > Carl ASIMUS became the husband of Hannah Elizabeth SHEPHARD (the eldest > daughter of the family about whom I'm always talking and asking!) > > When I saw the date of his arrival into AUS, I sort-of wondered if the > SHEPHARDs could have arrived on the same ship. I had seen that passenger > list and as usual, I'm fast becoming used to the fact that they were > probably amongst the myriad of "Unassisted" arrivals viz. X married > couples, > X children under age x etc. > > Still, Carl became a farmer at Rockley N.S.W. and so did Hannah > Elizabeth's > parents (viz. "Bathurst Landholders 1885" Bathurst FHG.) > > Today I received the packages of wills and probates for Hannah Elizabeth's > parents, George and Charlotte from Maria Skierawski who has recently > started > a great research service.(vg, too!) > > Very exciting to read a will of 1879 drafted in original Solicitor's > handwriting ! > > Still, as yet, no clue as to their birthplaces or date of marriage. > > I thank you very much for your ideas. > > Carolyn. Bathurst N.S.W. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > > > > Hello Carolyn, > >>From State Records NSW > > > > Search hits Surname FirstName NativePlace DateOfCertificate > RegisterNo > > Page Remarks Item Reel Order > > ASIMUS Charles Germany 25 Oct 1870 3 110 - [4/1202] 130 > > ASIMUS Frederick Germany 20 Mar 1873 3 134 - [4/1202] 134 > > ASIMUS Jacob Germany 3 Apr 1894 12 172 - [4/1211] 136 > > ASIMUS John Fredrick Germany 19 Apr 1875 4 3 - [4/1203] 130 > > > > > >>From http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1857/09/013ara.htm > > > > The arrival of ARAGO, not a full list of passengers. > > > > http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ > > > > arrival: Arago > > Source > > Master: J C C Kolling > > Origin: Hamburg > > Destination: 7th Sep 1857 Sydney > > > > Ref: e-11568 > > > > There are a number of records for surname Asimus, on National Archives > > Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ > > > > Gould Books has > > > http://www.gould.com.au/Emigrants-Hamburg-to-Australia-1857-59-p/qfh013.htm > > > > Kind regards, > > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > > > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > > > > > >> Hi, All, > >> > >> Ancestor Carl ASIMUS arrived Sydney on the above ship and date. He was > of > >> German descent. > >> > >> Does anyone know anything about this ship or its passengers or the > ASIMUS > >> family who lived in Rockley N.S.W. and are mentioned in "The Rockley > >> Manner" ? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Lynne, I feel very thankful to you. (So speedy, too!) Carl ASIMUS became the husband of Hannah Elizabeth SHEPHARD (the eldest daughter of the family about whom I'm always talking and asking!) When I saw the date of his arrival into AUS, I sort-of wondered if the SHEPHARDs could have arrived on the same ship. I had seen that passenger list and as usual, I'm fast becoming used to the fact that they were probably amongst the myriad of "Unassisted" arrivals viz. X married couples, X children under age x etc. Still, Carl became a farmer at Rockley N.S.W. and so did Hannah Elizabeth's parents (viz. "Bathurst Landholders 1885" Bathurst FHG.) Today I received the packages of wills and probates for Hannah Elizabeth's parents, George and Charlotte from Maria Skierawski who has recently started a great research service.(vg, too!) Very exciting to read a will of 1879 drafted in original Solicitor's handwriting ! Still, as yet, no clue as to their birthplaces or date of marriage. I thank you very much for your ideas. Carolyn. Bathurst N.S.W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > Hello Carolyn, >>From State Records NSW > > Search hits Surname FirstName NativePlace DateOfCertificate RegisterNo > Page Remarks Item Reel Order > ASIMUS Charles Germany 25 Oct 1870 3 110 - [4/1202] 130 > ASIMUS Frederick Germany 20 Mar 1873 3 134 - [4/1202] 134 > ASIMUS Jacob Germany 3 Apr 1894 12 172 - [4/1211] 136 > ASIMUS John Fredrick Germany 19 Apr 1875 4 3 - [4/1203] 130 > > >>From http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1857/09/013ara.htm > > The arrival of ARAGO, not a full list of passengers. > > http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ > > arrival: Arago > Source > Master: J C C Kolling > Origin: Hamburg > Destination: 7th Sep 1857 Sydney > > Ref: e-11568 > > There are a number of records for surname Asimus, on National Archives > Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ > > Gould Books has > http://www.gould.com.au/Emigrants-Hamburg-to-Australia-1857-59-p/qfh013.htm > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > > >> Hi, All, >> >> Ancestor Carl ASIMUS arrived Sydney on the above ship and date. He was of >> German descent. >> >> Does anyone know anything about this ship or its passengers or the ASIMUS >> family who lived in Rockley N.S.W. and are mentioned in "The Rockley >> Manner" ?

Hello Carolyn, >From State Records NSW Search hits Surname FirstName NativePlace DateOfCertificate RegisterNo Page Remarks Item Reel Order ASIMUS Charles Germany 25 Oct 1870 3 110 - [4/1202] 130 ASIMUS Frederick Germany 20 Mar 1873 3 134 - [4/1202] 134 ASIMUS Jacob Germany 3 Apr 1894 12 172 - [4/1211] 136 ASIMUS John Fredrick Germany 19 Apr 1875 4 3 - [4/1203] 130 >From http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1857/09/013ara.htm The arrival of ARAGO, not a full list of passengers. http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ arrival: Arago Source Master: J C C Kolling Origin: Hamburg Destination: 7th Sep 1857 Sydney Ref: e-11568 There are a number of records for surname Asimus, on National Archives Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ Gould Books has http://www.gould.com.au/Emigrants-Hamburg-to-Australia-1857-59-p/qfh013.htm Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passengers on "ARAGO" arr 6 Sep, 1857 > Hi, All, > > Ancestor Carl ASIMUS arrived Sydney on the above ship and date. He was of > German descent. > > Does anyone know anything about this ship or its passengers or the ASIMUS > family who lived in Rockley N.S.W. and are mentioned in "The Rockley > Manner" ?

Hi, All, Ancestor Carl ASIMUS arrived Sydney on the above ship and date. He was of German descent. Does anyone know anything about this ship or its passengers or the ASIMUS family who lived in Rockley N.S.W. and are mentioned in "The Rockley Manner" ? TIA, Carolyn.

Hi Syd, See the below listed site, it gives what records and years available. http://www.naa.gov.au/publications/fact_sheets/fs64.html Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SydHockey" <syd@sydandjudy.freeserve.co.uk> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] SHIPPING ARRIVALS > Hello Everybody, > Is there any records of address,s that people who > emigrated from ENGLAND to AUSTRALIA in the 1920s were going to, I have > three members of my family who arrived at MELBOURNE at that time and I am > trying to find where they went on to. > Thank you. > Regards,

Daily Telegraph Pictorial, Wednesday, March 6, 1929. page two Photograph of four men. Caption; Survivors of the Anni M Miller, which foundered early last month, on their way to the Marine Court of Inquiry yesterday. >From left: G W WEDDY (cook), M WOODBURY (fireman), W BENNETT (donkeyman), and K McCRAE (seaman) MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Hi, Lynne, I *have* come across this marriage, but was blinded, stupidly, by the family "story" that they were both SHEPHARDs ! Only trouble with it I can see is Louisa. George and Charlotte, to the best of my knowledge didn't have a Louisa. The informant on both their DCs lists deceased children: George has 2 males deceased (Joseph and William) and Charlotte has 2 males (the same 2) and 1 female (who was Eliza). Yes, the informant was S. A. SCHUMACKER (Sarah Ann married Heinrich A.A. SCHUMACHER. She also says they were m. in Derbyshire. The place of George and Charlotte's marriage as Sheffield is on 4th daughter Charlotte's BC. On son James' BC in 1862 there is an actual marriage date of 17 Apr, 1854. (Not so: I paid $39 to an oversead researcher who told me there is no such marriage)!! Whoops!!......................I've just noticed something on the BC of unnamed daughter on 31, Jan, 1861.................................. Father, Informant, George SHEPPARD who signed with X, says for Previous Issue: Charlotte, Annie Elizabeth, Sarah Ann and Mary Jane and in 1862 on BC of son James, it says "Two Females Living (or Five), None Deceased." This is the mention of place of marriage as Sheffield. Aaarrrgh! Where on earth do I go from here? Thank you to you and Jane so v.v. much for helping me to unravel this idiotic bunch!! Crazy Carolyn. Bathurst. (I have also found a marriage to a Charlotte WILLIS and a Charlotte SMITH!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] IMMIGRATION OF SHEPHARD FAMILY. > Hi Carolyn, > > FreeBMD has http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PAPWORTH Betsy Caxton 3b 1027 > ? Shephard George Caxton 3b 1027 > SIBLEY Charles Caxton 3b 1027 > ? TOSELAND Charlotte Caxton 3b 1027 > > This may be them?? > > counties of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire > > ??? following births > Births Mar 1853 > Shephard Louisa Caxton 3b 437 > > > Births Mar 1855 (>99%) > Shephard Hannah Elizabeth Ledbury 6a 406 > > Births Jun 1858 (>99%) > Shephard Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 295 > >> George's DC says he was married at age 25, England to Charlotte SHEPHARD >> (= >> abt 1854) and Charlotte's DC says she was 21 at marriage (= abt 1853) and >> place of marriage was Sheffield, England. > who was the informant, if Sarah, there is the above birth for a Sarah Ann, > in Sheffield. >>From this she may have thought that they were from there??? > > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > >> >> It confuses me though, (not difficult!) because George SHEPHARD's DC of >> 1879 >> states he was in N.S.W. for 20 years and Charlotte's DC of 1915-16 says >> she >> was in N.S.W. for 57 years. >> >> This tallies with the BC of their 3rd daughter (I think) at Summerhill, >> Rockley on 3 Jun, 1859 (registered at Bathurst 1 Aug, 1859.) >> >> As yet, I do not have the BCs of their first 2 daughters (presumably born >> in >> England) and on 3 Jun, 1859 they are listed as "Previous Issue" - Hannah >> Elizabeth 4, and Sarah Ann 2.

Hi, Jane, Trouble is that there are 2 families in Bathurst similarly named. A George WILSON m. Charlotte HOLBERT in 1837. They were both convicts. I have decided on SHEPHARD for the reason that 95% of 'mine' were spelt SHEPHARD or SHEPPARD. However the James who died in 1928 'may' be mine; I have all their deaths somewhere (??) <g> He was b. 1862. George and Charlotte didn't have a Mary A, only a Mary J. Mary A SHEPHERD was Mary Ann WILSON b. 1837 and married George SHEPHERD in {unreal!!} Bathurst Presbyterian (where loads of our rellies were married )! These WILSONs and SHEPHERDs belong to an email friend of mine. Very confusing that we both have WILSONs and SHEPHARDs (sic) Thank you for thinking of me and trying to help me. Best wishes, Carolyn. Bathurst. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Drayton" <draytonj@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] IMMIGRATION OF SHEPHARD FAMILY. > Carolyn, Did you decide it was SHEPHARD as opposed to SHEPHERD? On > bdm there is a Mary A Shepherd died 1890 in Bathurst with parents > George and Charlotte and a James died 1928 in Bathurst - same parents > first names. Not sure if someone can do a look-up to see Charlotte's > maiden name on the dcs? > > On 20/07/2007, at 10:06 AM, Carolyn and Darryl wrote: > >> Hi, Lynne, >> >> Thank you very much for that. >> >> It confuses me though, (not difficult!) because George SHEPHARD's >> DC of 1879 >> states he was in N.S.W. for 20 years and Charlotte's DC of 1915-16 >> says she >> was in N.S.W. for 57 years. >> >> This tallies with the BC of their 3rd daughter (I think) at >> Summerhill, >> Rockley on 3 Jun, 1859 (registered at Bathurst 1 Aug, 1859.) >> >> As yet, I do not have the BCs of their first 2 daughters >> (presumably born in >> England) and on 3 Jun, 1859 they are listed as "Previous Issue" - >> Hannah >> Elizabeth 4, and Sarah Ann 2. >> >> I think the ones you have mentioned are too early to be them. Do you? >> >> There is so much dissenting information about this family that I >> really >> can't be sure about anything, though. I have sent for Hannah >> Elizabeth's >> mariage (or death) certificate (not sure which !) to see if it >> mentions her >> birthplace and the maiden name of her mother (which to add to the >> confusion >> also is stated as SHEPHARD ) but there is definitely no marriage of 2 >> SHEPHARD's in England. >> >> George's DC says he was married at age 25, England to Charlotte >> SHEPHARD (= >> abt 1854) and Charlotte's DC says she was 21 at marriage (= abt >> 1853) and >> place of marriage was Sheffield, England. >> >> I've spent days on Ancestry and can't find anything which 'looks >> likely'. >> Shall try the 1851 Census again. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Carolyn. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> >> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] IMMIGRATION OF SHEPHARD FAMILY. >> >> >>> Hi Carolyn, >>> The only ship by that name was HMS Collingwood, 1844-1848, Adm. Sir G >>> Seymour. >>> >>> Have found the following not sure about this, from State Records NSW >>> Unassisted passengers, 1842-1855 >>> >>> SHEPHARD E Miss Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs >>> Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list >>> SHEPHARD G Master Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs >>> Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list >>> SHEPPARD Mrs, 1Son, 1Dau Persian P 4/1/1846 London 1273 >>> Listed as >>> 1845; Mrs, Miss E, Master G Shephard, & Portsmouth in SMH >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello, All, >>>> >>>> I *have* 'done my homework' and spent days on trying to discover >>>> this >>>> family's movements, on which ship they came, from where etc. Names: >>>> George >>>> and Charlotte SHEPHARD. >>>> >>>> It appears that an unnamed daughter was born 3 Jun, 1859 at >>>> Summerhill, >>>> Georgiana (near Rockley N.S.W.) and registered on 1 Aug, 1859. >>>> Given that >>>> they presumably spent some time travelling from Sydney to >>>> Bathurst (if, >>>> indeed they actually landed in Sydney?), their date of arrival >>>> must be >>>> well before Jun, 1849. >>>> >>>> I cannot discover the name of the ship on which they travelled: >>>> perhaps >>>> they were "unassisted" passengers? >>>> >>>> Could sks please advise me as to where to go from here? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- >> IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.10/908 - Release Date: > 19/07/2007 18:10 >

Hi Carolyn, FreeBMD has http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PAPWORTH Betsy Caxton 3b 1027 ? Shephard George Caxton 3b 1027 SIBLEY Charles Caxton 3b 1027 ? TOSELAND Charlotte Caxton 3b 1027 This may be them?? counties of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire ??? following births Births Mar 1853 Shephard Louisa Caxton 3b 437 Births Mar 1855 (>99%) Shephard Hannah Elizabeth Ledbury 6a 406 Births Jun 1858 (>99%) Shephard Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 295 > George's DC says he was married at age 25, England to Charlotte SHEPHARD > (= > abt 1854) and Charlotte's DC says she was 21 at marriage (= abt 1853) and > place of marriage was Sheffield, England. who was the informant, if Sarah, there is the above birth for a Sarah Ann, in Sheffield. >From this she may have thought that they were from there??? Kind regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > It confuses me though, (not difficult!) because George SHEPHARD's DC of > 1879 > states he was in N.S.W. for 20 years and Charlotte's DC of 1915-16 says > she > was in N.S.W. for 57 years. > > This tallies with the BC of their 3rd daughter (I think) at Summerhill, > Rockley on 3 Jun, 1859 (registered at Bathurst 1 Aug, 1859.) > > As yet, I do not have the BCs of their first 2 daughters (presumably born > in > England) and on 3 Jun, 1859 they are listed as "Previous Issue" - Hannah > Elizabeth 4, and Sarah Ann 2. >

Carolyn, Did you decide it was SHEPHARD as opposed to SHEPHERD? On bdm there is a Mary A Shepherd died 1890 in Bathurst with parents George and Charlotte and a James died 1928 in Bathurst - same parents first names. Not sure if someone can do a look-up to see Charlotte's maiden name on the dcs? On 20/07/2007, at 10:06 AM, Carolyn and Darryl wrote: > Hi, Lynne, > > Thank you very much for that. > > It confuses me though, (not difficult!) because George SHEPHARD's > DC of 1879 > states he was in N.S.W. for 20 years and Charlotte's DC of 1915-16 > says she > was in N.S.W. for 57 years. > > This tallies with the BC of their 3rd daughter (I think) at > Summerhill, > Rockley on 3 Jun, 1859 (registered at Bathurst 1 Aug, 1859.) > > As yet, I do not have the BCs of their first 2 daughters > (presumably born in > England) and on 3 Jun, 1859 they are listed as "Previous Issue" - > Hannah > Elizabeth 4, and Sarah Ann 2. > > I think the ones you have mentioned are too early to be them. Do you? > > There is so much dissenting information about this family that I > really > can't be sure about anything, though. I have sent for Hannah > Elizabeth's > mariage (or death) certificate (not sure which !) to see if it > mentions her > birthplace and the maiden name of her mother (which to add to the > confusion > also is stated as SHEPHARD ) but there is definitely no marriage of 2 > SHEPHARD's in England. > > George's DC says he was married at age 25, England to Charlotte > SHEPHARD (= > abt 1854) and Charlotte's DC says she was 21 at marriage (= abt > 1853) and > place of marriage was Sheffield, England. > > I've spent days on Ancestry and can't find anything which 'looks > likely'. > Shall try the 1851 Census again. > > Best wishes, > > Carolyn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> > To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:10 AM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] IMMIGRATION OF SHEPHARD FAMILY. > > >> Hi Carolyn, >> The only ship by that name was HMS Collingwood, 1844-1848, Adm. Sir G >> Seymour. >> >> Have found the following not sure about this, from State Records NSW >> Unassisted passengers, 1842-1855 >> >> SHEPHARD E Miss Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs >> Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list >> SHEPHARD G Master Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs >> Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list >> SHEPPARD Mrs, 1Son, 1Dau Persian P 4/1/1846 London 1273 >> Listed as >> 1845; Mrs, Miss E, Master G Shephard, & Portsmouth in SMH >> >> >> Kind regards, >> Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. >> >> >> >>> Hello, All, >>> >>> I *have* 'done my homework' and spent days on trying to discover >>> this >>> family's movements, on which ship they came, from where etc. Names: >>> George >>> and Charlotte SHEPHARD. >>> >>> It appears that an unnamed daughter was born 3 Jun, 1859 at >>> Summerhill, >>> Georgiana (near Rockley N.S.W.) and registered on 1 Aug, 1859. >>> Given that >>> they presumably spent some time travelling from Sydney to >>> Bathurst (if, >>> indeed they actually landed in Sydney?), their date of arrival >>> must be >>> well before Jun, 1849. >>> >>> I cannot discover the name of the ship on which they travelled: >>> perhaps >>> they were "unassisted" passengers? >>> >>> Could sks please advise me as to where to go from here? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS- > IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Lynne, Thank you very much for that. It confuses me though, (not difficult!) because George SHEPHARD's DC of 1879 states he was in N.S.W. for 20 years and Charlotte's DC of 1915-16 says she was in N.S.W. for 57 years. This tallies with the BC of their 3rd daughter (I think) at Summerhill, Rockley on 3 Jun, 1859 (registered at Bathurst 1 Aug, 1859.) As yet, I do not have the BCs of their first 2 daughters (presumably born in England) and on 3 Jun, 1859 they are listed as "Previous Issue" - Hannah Elizabeth 4, and Sarah Ann 2. I think the ones you have mentioned are too early to be them. Do you? There is so much dissenting information about this family that I really can't be sure about anything, though. I have sent for Hannah Elizabeth's mariage (or death) certificate (not sure which !) to see if it mentions her birthplace and the maiden name of her mother (which to add to the confusion also is stated as SHEPHARD ) but there is definitely no marriage of 2 SHEPHARD's in England. George's DC says he was married at age 25, England to Charlotte SHEPHARD (= abt 1854) and Charlotte's DC says she was 21 at marriage (= abt 1853) and place of marriage was Sheffield, England. I've spent days on Ancestry and can't find anything which 'looks likely'. Shall try the 1851 Census again. Best wishes, Carolyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <lynne_r@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-immigration-ships@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] IMMIGRATION OF SHEPHARD FAMILY. > Hi Carolyn, > The only ship by that name was HMS Collingwood, 1844-1848, Adm. Sir G > Seymour. > > Have found the following not sure about this, from State Records NSW > Unassisted passengers, 1842-1855 > > SHEPHARD E Miss Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs > Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list > SHEPHARD G Master Persian P 4/1/1846 London, Portsmouth SMH Mrs > Shephard, 1Son, 1Dau in SR list > SHEPPARD Mrs, 1Son, 1Dau Persian P 4/1/1846 London 1273 Listed as > 1845; Mrs, Miss E, Master G Shephard, & Portsmouth in SMH > > > Kind regards, > Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. > > > >> Hello, All, >> >> I *have* 'done my homework' and spent days on trying to discover this >> family's movements, on which ship they came, from where etc. Names: >> George >> and Charlotte SHEPHARD. >> >> It appears that an unnamed daughter was born 3 Jun, 1859 at Summerhill, >> Georgiana (near Rockley N.S.W.) and registered on 1 Aug, 1859. Given that >> they presumably spent some time travelling from Sydney to Bathurst (if, >> indeed they actually landed in Sydney?), their date of arrival must be >> well before Jun, 1849. >> >> I cannot discover the name of the ship on which they travelled: perhaps >> they were "unassisted" passengers? >> >> Could sks please advise me as to where to go from here?