Thomas Groves and his wife Elizabeth( Tyler) came to Australia ( Port Philip) on the Mahomed Shah in 1848, I believe that their son Thomas may have died on board, they also had a son John Thomas born on the voyage, where can I find details of Births and Deaths that occured at sea. many thanks Dianne

Sharon - try http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ Family wrote: > > Hello everyone > > I have just found out that my GG grandfather was a Sea Captain, could anyone > tell me how I could find out what ship(s) he was on and when he decided to > stay in Australia. I do not know if the information that I received was > correct, I have found that some of it was not, but I am looking in the time > frame of 1851, that they would have been married, but they had my G > grandfather in England in about 1869(70). > > Could anyone help > > Kind regards > Sharon > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > family@vic.australis.com.au > Family names that I am researching are: Fry, Towers, Garlick, Wittingslow, > Russell, O'Leary > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

HI list, my convict George Handley came to Australia on the convict ship Camden in 1833 it landed in Sydney, is there a book or web site that I can acccess information on this ship Thanks Sarah

Hello everyone I have just found out that my GG grandfather was a Sea Captain, could anyone tell me how I could find out what ship(s) he was on and when he decided to stay in Australia. I do not know if the information that I received was correct, I have found that some of it was not, but I am looking in the time frame of 1851, that they would have been married, but they had my G grandfather in England in about 1869(70). Could anyone help Kind regards Sharon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- family@vic.australis.com.au Family names that I am researching are: Fry, Towers, Garlick, Wittingslow, Russell, O'Leary

Hello everyone, I have updates on Olive Tree Genealogy Ships' Lists! I have recently added the following passenger lists: John & William sailing 1732 from Germany to PA with Palatine passengers http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/pal_jw1732.shtml The Elizabeth sailing 1733 from Germany to PA with Palatine passengers http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/pal_eliz1733.shtml The Ventura sailing 1920 from San Francisco, CA to Honolulu, Pango Pango & Sydney Australia http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/aus_ventura.shtml The Sonoma sailing 1924 from Sydney Australia to San Francisco, CA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ca_sonoma.shtml The Sonoma sailing 1924 from Sydney Australia to San Francisco, CA (second voyage) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ca_sonoma.shtml The Makura sailing 1919 from Sydney Australia to British Columbia, Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/can_makura.shtml The total number of ships' passenger lists and links to ships' passenger lists is now 1,279! To start your search at my index to Ships' Passenger Lists, go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/ Best of luck finding your ancestors! Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze For research tips, notices of new database and more, join my Olive Tree Genealogy Newsletter at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OliveTreeGenealogy/join The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Hello, I am in need of advise on where to search for a UK Merchant Navy ship arrival to Williamstown in 1926. I have been to the PRO and searched the passenger lists for this year with no luck. The name I am looking for is Alexander Russell McDonald. I believe he worked for his passage to Australia. Could anyone tell me if there is an index or listing of Merchant Ships? Which newspaper should I be checking and how would I narrow my search for these records? The ship name of Mermaid has been mentioned in the family as a possibility, although I can find no record. Regards, Jo Finch

People, I didn't get much response to the question about the ship 'The British Empire' Anyone out there got any information about it? Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Qld AUSTRALIA Phone +617 3273 5531 (H) Phone +617 3221 9277 (B) Mobile +61 0411 643 427 Fax +617 3229 5475 pcarruth@bigpond.net.au p.carruthers@ndy.com -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Carruthers <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> To: Australian Shipping <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 24 January 2002 18:39 Subject: Teh British Empire People, Could someone tell what kind of ship 'The British Empire' was! She travelled between Cumberland and South Australia in 1850's. Would a trip from the west coast of England in 1850 have called at an Irish port to collect passengers? Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Qld AUSTRALIA Phone +617 3273 5531 (H) Phone +617 3221 9277 (B) Mobile +61 0411 643 427 Fax +617 3229 5475 pcarruth@bigpond.net.au p.carruthers@ndy.com

Sharon Some of the ships passenger lists are on line,of course they include the Captains name too.Try Cyndis List for Australian ones at--> http://www.cyndislist.com/index.htm I just found my grandmothers sister on the Star Queen in 1875,and the Captains name was listed. Frank McGonigal Ont Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Family" <family@vic.australis.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:04 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Sea Captian > Hello everyone > > I have just found out that my GG grandfather was a Sea Captain, could anyone > tell me how I could find out what ship(s) he was on and when he decided to > stay in Australia. I do not know if the information that I received was > correct, I have found that some of it was not, but I am looking in the time > frame of 1851, that they would have been married, but they had my G > grandfather in England in about 1869(70). > > Could anyone help > > Kind regards > Sharon > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------------------------------------------------- > family@vic.australis.com.au > Family names that I am researching are: Fry, Towers, Garlick, Wittingslow, > Russell, O'Leary > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Listers I am seeking the name of the ship which brought my GGGrandfather CORNELIUS O'HARE from Britain to Australia in 1854. I have searched and had others search the following index's without finding him. Index to Assisted Imm.in Vict. from 1837 Index to Unassisted Imm. into Victoria Index to Assisted Immigrants arriving Sydney & Newcastle Index to Assisted Imm. to South Australia Also hundreds of hours searching the Internet !! He worked in the goldfields and lived in Castlemaine, where he married and his first child was born in 1960 &1862 . I know he left Vic. for NZ in 1864. Any ideas where I could start to find records of men working the goldfields in this area? He married Margaret Kerr, whose family had had their own Mining Co. in South Africa at an earlier date. A fellow researcher found a Chas. O'Hare/ O'Hara on board the" Invincible " which arrived Victoria August 1854. I have not been able to locate a passenger list for this. If anyone has access to this list would you mind sharing it with me please. I have read that sometimes emigrants used another name to gain entry. Cornelius was born in 1839 so would only have been 15 in 1854. Only other clue I have is that his older brother Daniel just may have emigrated to Australia as well. Any and all ideas would be very welcome. Regards Midge New Zealand

There were two ships on Liverpool-melbourne run called "Blue Jacket" ...... EMILY KNEEBONE arrived may 1859 Which "Blue Jacket" was she on... blue jacket 1790 tonns built in Boston U.S.A.1854-caught on fire abandoned march 9 1869............... blue jacket 2339 tonns built in Canada was wrecked in 1883 ...... one of these had a name change to "White Star" (after the white star line possibly) which ship did EMILY arrive on ????? which ship 1 or 2 changed its name????? any ideas maureen deverell ( Tassie)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish" <rainbow2@dingoblue.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 February 2002 14:46 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Help wanted Hi Trish . > My grandfather arrived in Aust on the 27 June 1910 on board a ship > called .. Sucuic, Sucioe or something like that. That is what I am > searching for. I can not find any references anywhere to this ship. > I am not even sure where he arrived. I would like to know the right > name of the ship if anyone can help. Does his death cert give answer to the 'How long resident in Australia, and which State" If he first lived in Victoria you would need to check the shipping pages of the Melbourne newspaper ....... Probably the Argus for around the date. Or if he lived in NSW the Sydney Morning Herald Films of these papers wuld be in many larger libraries WAGS have recently published arrivals to Freemantle from abt 1895 to 1920s on CD Could be worth checking that. Bye Marg Morters Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Franks" <bobf@triplei.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 February 2002 08:05 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Tamar Dear Bob > Does anyone have the passenger list for the ship "Tamar" which arrived in "The Colony" New South Wales on 29.1.1853 NSW State Records have the indexes to all assisted passenger arrivals 1844 - 1896 on line . These give a film number /s of the acctual passenger lists . These films are to be found in many libraries > and or where I might find a photo of same. Try a check in the 3 vols of the Log of Logs books. quite a few reproductions of ships pictures in these Maybe the NSW State Librarys Picman site has one or the Maritime Museum, Greenwich . You'll need to do a search . You probably wont get a photo more like a photo from a oil painting bye Marg Morters Member of Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "glen" <glen_3@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 February 2002 15:43 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] died en-route Liverpool UK to Sydney circa 1920 ? .Dear Glen > > My great grandfather Edward KITCHEN (or KITCHIN) is said to have emmigrated to Sydney with his daughter (my grandmother) in about 1920. I have all the information on his daughter - marriage and death certificates. However, we cannot find one single reference to Edward. Who were the witnesses on her marriage cert ? Do you know what is occuapation was ? Have you checked electoral rolls and /or Sands PO directories ??. both available at the NSW State Library No death certificate at all. We've checked with cousins back in Birkenhead and they're sure he left with the daughter (she was about 19 at that time). Was he migrating too or just came as chaperone ? He would have been about 65 yrs old in 1920 .......seems a tad old to be emigrating ? > . > > Edward Kitchen seems to have vanished without a trace! > > One theory we've considered is that he died en-route. I'm wondering whether anyone can advise where the death registration would be if this is the case. > The NSW between the Wars indexes list 22 marine deaths in 1920 . None have a name anything like his. This doesnt mean that there were only 22 marine deaths in that year > The other thing that I'd like to check is arrival lists for 1920. I have no idea of the name of the vessel unfortunately. Is there an archives centre in Sydney that holds these sorts of records? Arrival records, passenger lists. Of course there is .....! NSW State Records , Globe Street , off Lower George St, The Rocks. But I dont like your chances of finding this pair. Passenger arrival films are in date of arrival order and include ALL ships coastal and overseas. The hand writing changes constantly and there are exceedingly hard to check thru Abit of a short cut could be is to find the names of the ships that ran the regular trips from UK to Australia........ Union Line, P & O Orient etc Try subbing to the ShipList for a while Once you have the names and arrival dates of a few passenger ships check down at State Records Bye Marg Morters Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia

Hi My name is Vicki Hodges and I am looking for information on WILLIAM E SLACK who was born in 1826 in East View, Cumberland (now known as Cumbria) England. He arrived in New South Wales, Australia in 1848 aboard the FAIRLIE. Married Sophia Maidens at Wollombi in 1856 Any information would be very much appreciated. thank you Vicki Hodges ******************************************************************** DON'T Click Unless You Want To Turn $35 Into $12,000! http://gotosim115.cjb.net Put More Jingle In YOUR Jeans! http://gotogp.cjb.net

Hi, I've joined the list in the hope of clearing up an old family mystery, that's also part of my current family research. My great grandfather Edward KITCHEN (or KITCHIN) is said to have emmigrated to Sydney with his daughter (my grandmother) in about 1920. I have all the information on his daughter - marriage and death certificates. However, we cannot find one single reference to Edward. No death certificate at all. We've checked with cousins back in Birkenhead and they're sure he left with the daughter (she was about 19 at that time). He was born in Tranmere, Birkenhead (across the Mersey from Liverpool) in 1858. It's very unlikey that he lived beyond 1945, where the NSW "Between the Wars" index ends. I've searched these trying all sorts of spelling variations many times. Surely my father (b1932) would have known something about him if he was around beyond 1945. He has no recollection of him. Edward Kitchen seems to have vanished without a trace! One theory we've considered is that he died en-route. I'm wondering whether anyone can advise where the death registration would be if this is the case. The other thing that I'd like to check is arrival lists for 1920. I have no idea of the name of the vessel unfortunately. Is there an archives centre in Sydney that holds these sorts of records? Arrival records, passenger lists. Many thanks, glen lambert Sydney, Aus.

Hi all, I joined this list in the hope that someone maybe able to help me. My grandfather arrived in Aust on the 27 June 1910 on board a ship called .. Sucuic, Sucioe or something like that. That is what I am searching for. I can not find any references anywhere to this ship. I am not even sure where he arrived. I would like to know the right name of the ship if anyone can help. his name is Edward Edwards, not much to go on I know, but if somebody would be able to guide me to where I may find some information I would be most grateful. regards Trish Perth

Hi All Wonder if anyone can tell me where I might find some info on the ship, the Wilson which arrived in Australia in January 1842. My gggrandmother Jane McCartney(also named as McCarthy some records) came via this ship. Can't seem to find anything on it though. A passenger list would bbe great. Thanks for any help, Noelene Jones Townsville (which is very wet at present, and great as we desperately needed it)

Bob, The "Tamar" was a Barque of 372t. The date you mention is not quite correc, but very close. The ship was in port on that day. To find out more, and probably find your passenger, vist http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/ where you will find arrivals, details of cargo and passengers. If they weren't travelling steerage then you should find their names. Ron Harper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Franks" <bobf@triplei.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:05 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Tamar > > > > Hi there Listers, > > Does anyone have the passenger list for the ship "Tamar" which arrived in "The Colony" New South Wales on 29.1.1853 and or where I might find a photo of same. > > Information required for family (Cooper) history. > Yours etc. > Bob Franks. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi there Listers, Does anyone have the passenger list for the ship "Tamar" which arrived in "The Colony" New South Wales on 29.1.1853 and or where I might find a photo of same. Information required for family (Cooper) history. Yours etc. Bob Franks.

Hello list members, Does anyone have any information on the above mentioned ship. I have been told that Irish families Mulcahy and Allen came to NSW on this voyage and I would like to make contact with anyone researching this voyage or these families. Moya Morris Sydney