Hi Angie, I don't know what state you are in but if still in W.A. you can go down to the Australian Archives in Victoria Park & get copies from them. Give them a ring first & let them know what information you are chasing. If not in W.A. it is still worth contacting them as they may help you out via mail. I haven't actually gone into the records they hold for immigration as I am born & bred in W.A. but have found the staff there very helpful. Best wishes, Sharon Sharon McBride Perth, Western Australia mailto:mcbride@iinet.net.au Research Interests http://members.iinet.net.au/~mcbride/

try this site .......http://www.navis.gr/miscella/ship.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Barlow" <barlow@candw.ky> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] oil-burning ships > My uncle tells of a claim by his father to have been on (he was an officer in the merchant navy) the first "oil-burner" brought to Australia. The first motor-ship he captained was "Hauraki" in 1923 from Australia to New Zealand and the North Pacific, so the date of the first oil-burner might have been not long before then. > >From my uncle's notes: "The Chief Engineer of his coal-burner had about 1 week of training by an oil-burner Engineer from Frisco to Vancouver to learn the ropes! The former port was one of the roughest Dad had visited & he said he always carried a revolver when going ashore!" > > So that first ship may have come from the USA or Canada. Doubtless it carried passengers, so I don't feel guilty about mentioning it on this List. Does any Lister know what ship that was, and when, and where from? > > Gordon Barlow > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Use the google search engine and type in first oil burning ship to? brings up some great interesting articles.......and then you can make the choice of which ship it was good hunting coal burners were a great interest also ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Barlow" <barlow@candw.ky> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] oil-burning ships > My uncle tells of a claim by his father to have been on (he was an officer in the merchant navy) the first "oil-burner" brought to Australia. The first motor-ship he captained was "Hauraki" in 1923 from Australia to New Zealand and the North Pacific, so the date of the first oil-burner might have been not long before then. > >From my uncle's notes: "The Chief Engineer of his coal-burner had about 1 week of training by an oil-burner Engineer from Frisco to Vancouver to learn the ropes! The former port was one of the roughest Dad had visited & he said he always carried a revolver when going ashore!" > > So that first ship may have come from the USA or Canada. Doubtless it carried passengers, so I don't feel guilty about mentioning it on this List. Does any Lister know what ship that was, and when, and where from? > > Gordon Barlow > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

US-SHIPSLISTS-PRE1820 A mailing list for the discussion and sharing of information regarding ship passenger lists, immigration records, naturalization records and ships' lists substitutes for immigration to the United States before 1820. To subscribe send "subscribe" to us-shipslists- pre1820-l-request@rootsweb.com (mail mode) or us-shipslists- pre1820-d-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode). An artticle on immigration for this time period and a clickable link for subscribing are also at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/immusapre1820.shtml Lorine McGinnis Schulze The Olive Tree Genealogy http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/ Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ otg@csolve.net olivetreegen@netscape.net

Forwarded by Admin Meg G -----Original Message----- From: Jim Coghlan [mailto:jimrox@netspeed.com.au] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:32 AM To: aus-immigration-ships-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Northumberland Hello all! I am trying to track information on the ship NORTHUMBERLAND that brought immigrants from the UK to Australia, arriving Victoria ~ 10 May 1874. My COGHLAN / COUGHLAN ancestors were on this ship. I have no idea of port of origin and am interested in tracking the passenger manifest as one or two of the family relationships are a mystery. Any pointers would be greatly received. Thanks Roxanne --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Forwarded by Admin Meg G -----Original Message----- From: Norm & Joan Colmer [mailto:n_j_colmer@bigpond.com.au] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:52 PM To: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Good afternoon, My m-i-l arrived in Australia from England c. 1916-18 first landing in Fremantle WA. She mentioned trouble on the docks when they arrived and they were not allowed to leave the ship and the continuation of their journey to Sydney was delayed. So far I have not been able to find out the names of my mother in law and her guardians on shipping lists, nor have I been able to find the name of any ships arriving when there was trouble on the docks. As the first port of call, would the records (shipping lists) be held in W.A. or where they disembarked, NSW.? I do not know the name of the ship, she appears to have arrived during WW1. Regards, Joan. Sydney. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

Claire, From NSW BDM Births 4019/1877 CRANE, FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY E, at CONCORD 4435/1880 CRANE REGINALD FREDERICK - Father FREDERICK, Mother MARY ELEANOR, at CONCORD 4179/1878 CRANE ETHEL J G - father FREDERICK, mother MARY E at CONCORD There's six more in the next decade! Any help? Philip C ----- Original Message ----- From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > I don't know where they arrived and strictly where they left from but I > would assume somewhere from Worcester > > Frederick William CRANE was born in Dudley, Worcester in 1859/60.He came to > Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate lists his parents > as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no trace of his parents > in Victoria. > > Frederick died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the colony. > I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but there is no William > and Mary Crane that I can find, but by no means am I experienced enough to > find them all. > > On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in Worcester in > 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. (she may be a sibling) > There is also a record of a Henry CRANE, b 1857, > Joseph CRANE b. 1860, > Sarah CRANE b. 1860. > These people may bear no relation to my GG but they could be siblings or > cousins. If the whole family came out to Australia > together they may be on shipping lists as a group > > Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very grateful. > > > > > Where did they arrive and where from? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be said of > > > Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 with > young > > > frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where to look > > > folks? > > > Claire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride > on > > a > > > > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared > > > here > > > > in > > > > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, > > > > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Roxanne Found your family on the passenger list. Surname Given Name Age Year Month Ship Port Fiche Page COUGHLAN BRIDGET 18 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN CORNELIUS 50 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN ELLEN 14 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN ELLEN 40 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN JOSEPH 24 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MARGARET 30 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MARGARET 6 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MICHAEL 16 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 I hope this helps Regards Trudy Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: MegG <MegGm@bigpond.com> To: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 29 April 2002 03:48 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FW: Northumberland >Forwarded by Admin Meg G > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Coghlan [mailto:jimrox@netspeed.com.au] >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:32 AM >To: aus-immigration-ships-l-request@rootsweb.com >Subject: Northumberland > >Hello all! >I am trying to track information on the ship NORTHUMBERLAND that >brought immigrants from the UK to Australia, arriving Victoria ~ 10 >May 1874. >My COGHLAN / COUGHLAN ancestors were on this ship. I have no idea of >port of origin and am interested in tracking the passenger manifest as >one or two of the family relationships are a mystery. >Any pointers would be greatly received. >Thanks >Roxanne > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid= 1237

Hello Roxanne Found your family on the passenger list. Surname Given Name Age Year Month Ship Port Fiche Page COUGHLAN BRIDGET 18 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN CORNELIUS 50 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN ELLEN 14 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN ELLEN 40 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN JOSEPH 24 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MARGARET 30 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MARGARET 6 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 COUGHLAN MICHAEL 16 1874 MAY NORTHUMBERLAND B 326 9 I hope this helps Regards Trudy Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: MegG <MegGm@bigpond.com> To: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 29 April 2002 03:48 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FW: Northumberland >Forwarded by Admin Meg G > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Coghlan [mailto:jimrox@netspeed.com.au] >Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:32 AM >To: aus-immigration-ships-l-request@rootsweb.com >Subject: Northumberland > >Hello all! >I am trying to track information on the ship NORTHUMBERLAND that >brought immigrants from the UK to Australia, arriving Victoria ~ 10 >May 1874. >My COGHLAN / COUGHLAN ancestors were on this ship. I have no idea of >port of origin and am interested in tracking the passenger manifest as >one or two of the family relationships are a mystery. >Any pointers would be greatly received. >Thanks >Roxanne > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid= 1237

There is probably only one way to find your answer - with hard slog. Start by visiting this site http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/aibs/aib39-ark.htm and then follow the trail. Your local library probably has the ARK. Ron

Where did they arrive and where from? ----- Original Message ----- From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be said of > Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 with young > frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where to look > folks? > Claire > > > > > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on a > > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared > here > > in > > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

good one Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "RON HARPER" <reprahnor@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 4:46 Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on a > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have just tried to do an immigration search in the National Archives but it won't let me do a search. Any ideas why not. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 4:31 Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

TA! I needed that! ----- Original Message ----- From: RON HARPER <reprahnor@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on a > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I don't know where they arrived and strictly where they left from but I would assume somewhere from Worcester Frederick William CRANE was born in Dudley, Worcester in 1859/60.He came to Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate lists his parents as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no trace of his parents in Victoria. Frederick died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the colony. I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but there is no William and Mary Crane that I can find, but by no means am I experienced enough to find them all. On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in Worcester in 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. (she may be a sibling) There is also a record of a Henry CRANE, b 1857, Joseph CRANE b. 1860, Sarah CRANE b. 1860. These people may bear no relation to my GG but they could be siblings or cousins. If the whole family came out to Australia together they may be on shipping lists as a group Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very grateful. > Where did they arrive and where from? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: claire <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be said of > > Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 with young > > frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where to look > > folks? > > Claire > > > > > > > > > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on > a > > > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared > > here > > > in > > > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on a pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in > Australia by carrier pigeon. >

If birds of a feather flock together, I'm hoping the same can be said of Cranes and a family of them arrived here somewhere around 1862 with young frederick William tucked under their wing. Any suggestions where to look folks? Claire > > > > Some say babies are carried by storks, but, a crane hitching a ride on a > > pigeon carrier is a bird of another feather. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phillip Carruthers" <pcarruth@bigpond.net.au> > > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > > > > Was my g.grandmother with him on the pigeon?????????? > > > > > > > > > > I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here > in > > > > Australia by carrier pigeon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'm sorry Angie, I can't help you with passenger lists. Perhaps someone else on this list may be able to. I can only help you with the indexs for BDM prior to 1920. I'm looking for help myself as my GG just seems to have appeared here in Australia by carrier pigeon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Owen" <angio@fishinternet.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Hi Clare, > I'm sorry that I can't help you but you could help me . I would be grateful > if you could look up or give me a Webb site where I could look my self, a > list of passengers who arrived on the Fairsea from Bremerhafen/Germany on > the 6/1/1954 at Freemantle in Western Australia. I actually arrived on this > ship as a nine year old but my mother who is 83 now can't find the papers. > Also my g mother arrived by plane about 1971. Where do I go to find maybe a > birth certificate as I don't know the surname of my g g mother. I am > against a brick wall at the moment. > Thanks > Angie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "claire" <clairet@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 7:47 > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I'm new to the list and I'm trying to find traces of my g-grandfather, > Frederick William CRANE or his family. He was born in Dudley, Worcester in > 1859.He came to Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate > lists his parents as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no > trace of his parents in Australia. > > He died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the colony. His > marriage certificate indicates by his age that he was born in 1859 or maybe > early 1860. I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but infants > were not usually listed and there is no William and Mary Crane that I can > find. > > > > On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in Worcester > in 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. There is also a record of a Henry > CRANE, b 1857, Joseph CRANE b. 1860, Sarah CRANE b. 1860. These people may > bear no relation to my GG but if the whole family came out to Australia > together they may be on shipping lists > > > > Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very grateful. > > > > I possess some of the indexs for Victoria on CD's and am happy to do > lookups here in Australia if anyone needs any help in that area. > > Thanks > > > > Claire Taylor > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Clare, I'm sorry that I can't help you but you could help me . I would be grateful if you could look up or give me a Webb site where I could look my self, a list of passengers who arrived on the Fairsea from Bremerhafen/Germany on the 6/1/1954 at Freemantle in Western Australia. I actually arrived on this ship as a nine year old but my mother who is 83 now can't find the papers. Also my g mother arrived by plane about 1971. Where do I go to find maybe a birth certificate as I don't know the surname of my g g mother. I am against a brick wall at the moment. Thanks Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "claire" <clairet@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2002 7:47 Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Frederick William CRANE > Hello everyone, > > I'm new to the list and I'm trying to find traces of my g-grandfather, Frederick William CRANE or his family. He was born in Dudley, Worcester in 1859.He came to Australia as a child around 1862. His marriage certificate lists his parents as William Robert CRANE and Mary COTTON. I can find no trace of his parents in Australia. > He died in Victoria 1942 and it says he was 80 years in the colony. His marriage certificate indicates by his age that he was born in 1859 or maybe early 1860. I've checked as many shipping indexs as I can find, but infants were not usually listed and there is no William and Mary Crane that I can find. > > On the English free BDM's I have found a Mary Ann CRANE born in Worcester in 1862 to a William and Mary CRANE. There is also a record of a Henry CRANE, b 1857, Joseph CRANE b. 1860, Sarah CRANE b. 1860. These people may bear no relation to my GG but if the whole family came out to Australia together they may be on shipping lists > > Any help that might get me past this brick wall I would be very grateful. > > I possess some of the indexs for Victoria on CD's and am happy to do lookups here in Australia if anyone needs any help in that area. > Thanks > > Claire Taylor > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >