Hi Gwen, On a visit to the National Archives the other day I saw of photo on the wall of a ship with immigrants on board - "women arriving in Australia to get married...looking out on the docks to see the potential husbands"? perhaps that was what was happening to all those girls on your ship? you might find a story in the newspaper for the day the ship arrived? check your newspaper archives at the Library? Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Faulkner" <gmgwen@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > Hello listers > > I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. > > Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? > > Regards > Gwen > > Researching > HORWOOD Oxford > TINSLEY England and Australia > GIBSON Northumberland and Australia > MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia > LENNON New York and Australia > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

After researching many reasons on why young women were sent out to Australia I have come across three things 1) to populate the colony 3) that many young women were left in orphanages or poor houses as we know them and the "powers that Be" decided they were orphans and removed them from the over full buildings and forwarded them on to Australia/Tasmania But time has now proven that there were family members left in the old country and these children were sent without the knowledge of the parent/parents........who may have been out looking for work But another thing that arises through looking at these immigrants that the parents were supposed to stay at the poor houses with them and one wonders why? would it not have been easier to send the well parent to seek work Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy & Graham" <chezleschat@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > Hi Gwen - there doesn't happen to be a John Reeves on that list?? a silly > question I guess but who knows? Judy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwen Faulkner" <gmgwen@hotmail.com> > To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:05 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > > > > Hello listers > > > > I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian > that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my > gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the > passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have > domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. > > > > Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, > single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? > > > > Regards > > Gwen > > > > Researching > > HORWOOD Oxford > > TINSLEY England and Australia > > GIBSON Northumberland and Australia > > MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia > > LENNON New York and Australia > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

www.blaxland.com/ozships/page.htm have a look at this website. many ships came from UK in 1864. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Wolfe" <wolfe@winsoft.net.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Passenger lists > Hello All, > I am searching for the arrival in Australia from Limerick City of my > g.grandfather Michael Woulfe/Wolfe/Woolfe/wolf. > Michael resigned from the Royal Irish Constabulary in April 1864 and > came to Australia where he joined the Victoria Police in Oct. 1865. > I have searched the Victorian Govt. unassisted pass. lists without > result. > Could someone please advise me what other pass lists would be > available to search on line. > Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > Regards Frank Wolfe wolfe@winsoft.net.au > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Gwen, A book that I'm sure you shall find interesting is "Barefoot and Pregnant" - a book dealing with the ships that came out here - (a lot to N.S.W.) carrying only female passengers. They were shipped out here from the Workhouses in Ireland (willingly ! ) to help boost the population as there was such a shortage of females; this was a decision of the Australian Government at the time.There is also a monument to the Irish girls who came here in Hyde Park, Sydney. Hope you enjoy the book as much as I did. It is available from your local library. (You may have to go on a waiting list.) >>> gmgwen@hotmail.com 06/17/02 10:05pm >>> Hello listers I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? Regards Gwen Researching HORWOOD Oxford TINSLEY England and Australia GIBSON Northumberland and Australia MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia LENNON New York and Australia ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

>WINSCALES" in 1843. May 3rd See convictions website as I stated in previous reply. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Piper" <annette.piper@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] 'Adam Lodge' 'Royal Saxon' and 'Winscales' > Hi > I am new to this list and was hoping SKS could direct me to a suitable site or have some information on the "ADAM LODGE" arr. Sydney February 1840 and the "ROYAL SAXON" arr. Melbourne July 1841. > I am trying to find information on James Piper and Margaret Drew from the 'Adam Lodge' and William Piper from the 'Royal Saxon'. They all originated in County Limerick, Ireland, but I don't know embarkation point. > Also, William Piper travelled from Melbourne to Sydney on the "WINSCALES" in 1843. > Any information would be appreciated. > Regards > Annette Piper > Coolah NSW > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

www.blaxland.com/ozships/page.htm this website gives a little info for you. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Piper" <annette.piper@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] 'Adam Lodge' 'Royal Saxon' and 'Winscales' > Hi > I am new to this list and was hoping SKS could direct me to a suitable site or have some information on the "ADAM LODGE" arr. Sydney February 1840 and the "ROYAL SAXON" arr. Melbourne July 1841. > I am trying to find information on James Piper and Margaret Drew from the 'Adam Lodge' and William Piper from the 'Royal Saxon'. They all originated in County Limerick, Ireland, but I don't know embarkation point. > Also, William Piper travelled from Melbourne to Sydney on the "WINSCALES" in 1843. > Any information would be appreciated. > Regards > Annette Piper > Coolah NSW > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, the ship Ortona came to Qld Australia 3 times in 1907. Jan, Aug and Dec. Look at the Inwards passenger lists for Brisbane for those dates and you'll probably find your grandfather. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "joey" <misty75@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] 'ORTONA' > Hello everybody this is my first time to the list. > My Grandfather came to Australia in 1907 from England on the "ORTONA". > He lived in Victoria but i haven't been able to find any passenger lists or other information about the ship.If anyone could please help me i would be most grateful. > Jo Salter. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello was wondering which John Reeves you are looking for ..... did he end up in Tasmania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy & Graham" <chezleschat@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > Hi Gwen - there doesn't happen to be a John Reeves on that list?? a silly > question I guess but who knows? Judy >

Hi Gwen - there doesn't happen to be a John Reeves on that list?? a silly question I guess but who knows? Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Faulkner" <gmgwen@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > Hello listers > > I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. > > Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? > > Regards > Gwen > > Researching > HORWOOD Oxford > TINSLEY England and Australia > GIBSON Northumberland and Australia > MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia > LENNON New York and Australia > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Gwen, Not sure about the Castillian, but here's a good book about "'A DECENT SET OF GIRLS" by Cheryl Morgan and Dr. Richard Reid which explains one view. Check out http://www.local.ie/content/54175.shtml/genealogy/emigration_studies/emigrat ion_stories or do a Google search on "A Decent Set of Girls". Hope this is of interest. Cheers, Rob. Rob Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Gwen Faulkner [mailto:gmgwen@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 17 June 2002 10:06 PM To: AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 Hello listers I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? Regards Gwen Researching HORWOOD Oxford TINSLEY England and Australia GIBSON Northumberland and Australia MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia LENNON New York and Australia ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I do not have an answer - but I am looking for a single female, Mary Emma BAILEY, who travelled to Australia around about that time. She was born Chester, Cheshire, 28 May 1837, say 21 years of age in 1858. Maybe she is on your list? Best Wishes Bill Brown Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Faulkner" <gmgwen@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Castilian 1858 > Hello listers > > I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. > > Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? > > Regards > Gwen > > Researching > HORWOOD Oxford > TINSLEY England and Australia > GIBSON Northumberland and Australia > MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia > LENNON New York and Australia > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello All, I am searching for the arrival in Australia from Limerick City of my g.grandfather Michael Woulfe/Wolfe/Woolfe/wolf. Michael resigned from the Royal Irish Constabulary in April 1864 and came to Australia where he joined the Victoria Police in Oct. 1865. I have searched the Victorian Govt. unassisted pass. lists without result. Could someone please advise me what other pass lists would be available to search on line. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards Frank Wolfe wolfe@winsoft.net.au

Hello listers I have partial passenger list (relevant to my family) of the Castilian that arrived in Botany Bay 1858, from England. One of the passengers was my gggrandmother. She was 23 and it appears, from the page that I have, the passengers are in the majority, single females, between 19-23 yrs and have domestic occupations, eg laundry maid, domestic servant, etc. Was there any reason for (what appears) this mass immigration of young, single females? Does anyone have any ideas or information on this one? Regards Gwen Researching HORWOOD Oxford TINSLEY England and Australia GIBSON Northumberland and Australia MALACARNE Italy New York and Australia LENNON New York and Australia

Hi I am new to this list and was hoping SKS could direct me to a suitable site or have some information on the "ADAM LODGE" arr. Sydney February 1840 and the "ROYAL SAXON" arr. Melbourne July 1841. I am trying to find information on James Piper and Margaret Drew from the 'Adam Lodge' and William Piper from the 'Royal Saxon'. They all originated in County Limerick, Ireland, but I don't know embarkation point. Also, William Piper travelled from Melbourne to Sydney on the "WINSCALES" in 1843. Any information would be appreciated. Regards Annette Piper Coolah NSW

Can anyone assist with a passenger list for the "Palmira" arrival 1848 Victoria (possibly port Philip) And any ideas for a photo of the same ship? I am going to search Google now. Regards Russell http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain!

Hello everybody this is my first time to the list. My Grandfather came to Australia in 1907 from England on the "ORTONA". He lived in Victoria but i haven't been able to find any passenger lists or other information about the ship.If anyone could please help me i would be most grateful. Jo Salter.

Jo, She was a Pacific Steam Navigation Co. liner 1899-1917. Contact for photos and her details. Don http://freespace.virgin.net/donald.hazeldine/austral.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: joey <misty75@bigpond.com.au> To: <AUS-IMMIGRATION-SHIPS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 6:12 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] 'ORTONA' > Hello everybody this is my first time to the list. > My Grandfather came to Australia in 1907 from England on the "ORTONA". > He lived in Victoria but i haven't been able to find any passenger lists or other information about the ship.If anyone could please help me i would be most grateful. > Jo Salter. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

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Hi all, Hope someone out there can tell me how to access accounts of the following voyages: *The Guildford, 1824- Convict Joseph Shepherd, from England, *Formosa, arriving NSW 4/7/1840- William & Cicelia Carruthers and son John. Free settlers from England. *George Fyfe, arriving NSW 23/1/1840- Donald & Margaret McInnes and 9 children, assisted passage/free settlers?? from Scotland. I would be grateful for any assistance. Frances Wilson.

Hi All, Can any one help me with info on the paddle steamer "Fernmount" that left Sydney in November,1885 for Fernmount NSW and the ss"Wellington" that sunk on Friday night November the 12th 1892.that was on its way to Sydney from Bellingen. thanks Eileen