Hi Phil, sorry that I didn't get back to you sooner, but it's a bit hectic over here. Have you recently contacted the Cowra Family Hist group as all of the research that I did there during the last holidays they took a copy of. I have a lot of information about the descendants and a few good obituaries for the old Cowra paper. You're so lucky to be so close. It's a little tricky researching from over here in Perth. My direct descendant is Allen Moore (William senior's grandson) but I am interested in all of them. I have also contacted another Moore (Dorothy Giles) here in Perth she is related to William snr's son Willian jnr. Let me know what you would like Phil. Alison Gregory

Hello Lynne, sorry I haven't been in touch with you have been away looking after grandchildren for the last 3 weeks. Thank you for that information NOW can you tell me why he jumped ship & for what reason. if you can Id be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. Glenys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ship :Emigrant: > Hi Glenys, > Yes found him, listed in NSW Government Gazette 1852 > p.1377 Notice dated 17.9.1852 > George St. Clair, "Emigrant", A.B., 5ft 41/4"., light complexion, brown > hair, blue eyes, "G.H." left arm; > 5 pound reward. > There were another 6 who also deserted. > Kind regards, > Lynne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:44 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ship :Emigrant: > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Terry, I've just checked the Victorian Immigration CD 1852 - 1879 and the Attila arrived in Victoria in July 1863. If you give me your ancestor's details, I'll do a look up for you. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Terry Bennett [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2005 9:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Looking for information on a ship called Attila Dear Listers I have an ancestor who I have been told sailed from England to Australia in 1863 on the ship 'Attila'. I have searched the internet for information and pictures of the ship but have found nothing at all. Does anyone have an explanation or indeed have any details of this vessel? Many thanks for your interest. Regards. Fay Bennett Cambridge, UK -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 06/05/2005 ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi All If any one has access to the above index, could you please contact me off line. Many thanks. Anne Hanson [email protected]

Hi All, If any one has access to the above index compiled by & published by Alexander Romanoff Hughes could you please contact me off line. Many thanks. Anne Hanson [email protected]

Dear Listers I have an ancestor who I have been told sailed from England to Australia in 1863 on the ship 'Attila'. I have searched the internet for information and pictures of the ship but have found nothing at all. Does anyone have an explanation or indeed have any details of this vessel? Many thanks for your interest. Regards. Fay Bennett Cambridge, UK -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 06/05/2005

Thank you Alison for your advice Monica

Hello Mike Yes that was rather stupid of me not to reveal "his" name I was trying to get as much information in as possible & forgot the most important part His name was Henry French probably born 1822 & married Ellen Riordon Thanks Monica

Hi Listers, Oops, an error on my part in my last listing of 10 May. For CAROLINE PRINCESS please read CAROLINE ELIZABETH. Regards, Bob McCredie

Hi Peter, I was wondering if there might be a connection with my COMLEY's - I am always clutching at straws with this family LOL. I have a George COMLEY who migrated to S.A. with his sister Hannah and her husband Thomas SINKINSON in 1838. My lot appear to have been in Lancashire before coming to Sth. Australia. Maybe your lot came out knowing that other family members were already in Sth. Australia?? Thought I would ask, just in case. Regards Maree ----- Original Message ----- From: "pepahlists" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] COMLEY family to Adelaide 1883/4 > Dear Listers > > I am hoping that the skills and resourcefulness of the Group members will be > able to help me track down the ship in which the COMLEY family arrived in > Adelaide between May 1883 and November 1884. I have seen advice given on > other States but not for SA. Are there any indexes to such a situation, > please? > > The full family comprised, > Charles Albert COMLEY (Head) > Sarah Ann, his wife > Charles Herbert aged 10-11, his son > Reginald aged 7-8, son > Ida Emily aged 5-6, daughter > Edith May, aged 0-1, daughter > > In hope ... > > Peter > London, England > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Hi to the list, I'm a new subscriber and I'm told that thefollowing info may be of interest to someone on the list. I have two pages of a passenger list for the Waroonga which I am reliably told is for the 1884 voyage UK - N. Qld via Djakarta (or Batavia as it them was). Details are as follows: Full Paying Steerage Marsh, Thomas age 48 Springer, Edith age 20 Assisted Ardron, Frank age 22 Hancock, Susan age 22 " George age 14 " Fred age 12 Newton, Agnes age 32 Free Ash, Fred A. age23 Butler, Alfred age 20 Chappell, William H. age 19 Chase, Miss age 48 Davies, Harriet age 24 Feehan, Margaret age 26 What is, I understand, the next page lists the following, the first of whom may or may not be of the Feehan family " Matilda age 12 " Agnes age 8 " William age 6 " Sarah age 4 " James age 14 Gardner, John age 19 Garner, Fred age 29 " Mary age 30 " Fred age 2 Gazzard, Sarah age 32 " Eva age 9 " Henry age 8 " Mabel age 7 " Henrietta age 5 " Henry age 3 " Gladys age 2 Hosken, Emma age 27 Humphrey, Albert age 22 Hansell, Jane age 37 could be Hamell Handel, Tom age 20 Hansford, George age 20 Hamill, Robert age 35 Heany, John age 18 " George age 16 Hamilton, John age 19 Hindley, Jane age 22 Hancock, Thomas age 54 " Elizabeth age 52 Jones, Elizabeth age 20 Kelly, Edward age 25 Kenny, Charles age 21 Keegan, Thomas age 29 They are in this sequence down the page and I presume that each category is for steerage passengers only, but I don't know that for sure. The above is all the info I have. Ben Brisbane, Oz.

South Australian death certificates for that period do not provide the same information as those from Queensland, NSW and Victoria. I wasted money on the death certificate for my great grandfather and the only information on it was his name, place and date of death which I already knew, and the cause of death which was not of particular relevance to me given his considerable age at date of death. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Gregory" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] arrival in S.A. > Death certificates usually list a place of birth and how long the > person has been living in the colonies. Get in touch with South > Australian Historical Society or Mortlock Library, they should be able > to give you tips. > Alison Gregory > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

This has just come to me via the Netherlands mailing group ­ I hope it can be of use to people ­ it is a huge database with many of the sites that we know and use and a lot of new stuff too. http://rossels.favos.nl/ Leonie Perth

Hi Listers For the benefit of Newbies (me) and other strangers to this land (Peter), could someone please tell us whether or not we can search by surname in SA shipping arrivals...? It appears from looking at the Archives of SA website http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/readingroom/advice/plistsin.html and from the South Australian Genealogy & Heraldry Society webste http://www.saghs.org.au/shipping.htm that we can only search alphabetically by name of ship. Is this a correct observation? Is there any other way to do a free search online by surname of the passenger? Extract from SAGHS website about the shipping records: SHIPPING ARRIVALS Databases | Deaths & Burials | SA Shipping Arrivals | SA Places | Place Codes | Library Catalogue | Journals A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | IJ | K | L | M | N | OPQ | R | S | T | UV | W | XYZ Formerly known as Source 313 and now GRG35/48a this section lists the vessels whose records survive in some form from 1836 to 1886. The number of voyages with surviving records number just 749 and the material available for each list varies considerably. The material you do locate may include any of the following: An embarkation list prepared by the agent or emigration agents. A passenger manifest prepared by the captain. Certificate of arrival prepared by the immigration officials. Sundry lists created for other purposes such as fee-payers, land-holders. Hint: Read the first page header of the shipping list carefully to determine what you are looking at! Problems include: Survival rate of lists is poor. Lists may not be a true indication of the immigrants who actually arrived Writing is often difficult to decipher. Useful information on origins is rare. Teenagers in families are split off and listed under the unmarried passengers. Departure and arrival date may vary from record to record. Fee paying passengers usually not recorded. Crew never recorded except in manifests. I am SO glad most of my relatives had the good sense to come to Victoria...! LOL! Regards Teresa Prince Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "List Admin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FW: {not a subscriber} Second time: COMLEY family to Adelaide 1883/4 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pepah [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 6:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: {not a subscriber} Second time: COMLEY family to Adelaide 1883/4 > > Dear Listers > > A short while ago I asked members the query below. I don't know if my > message landed in email boxes when people were away or just busy, but, most > unusually, I received no answer whatsoever. Perhaps the answer is that no > resource exists, but I would be most grateful to be told that if so, as it > would clear out one line of research conclusively. Many thanks. > > "I am hoping that the skills and resourcefulness of the Group members will > be able to help me track down the ship in which the COMLEY family arrived in > Adelaide between May 1883 and November 1884. I have seen advice given on > other States but not for SA. Are there any indexes to such a situation, > please? > > The full family comprised, > Charles Albert COMLEY (Head) > Sarah Ann, his wife > Charles Herbert aged 10-11, his son > Reginald aged 7-8, son > Ida Emily aged 5-6, daughter > Edith May, aged 0-1, daughter" > > In hope again... > > Peter > London, England > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hi Irene, I have a record of a Johann Bischoff coming to Aus and also I have a record of a family of Nolans coming here and the father is David Nolan age 36 Occupation labourer from Ireland and one of his kids was David aged 5. This family arrived here in 1852 and landed in Qld. Let me know if you are interested in any of this and I will give more details Kind regards Leanne baulch Canberra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] German/Irish Names > Hi All > > I wonder if anyone can help me. Several of my ancestors must have swum > here > as I cannot find any of their arrivals or ships' names. > > German names are: > > Carl Heinrich GOLGERTH > His wife Johanna Louisa Wilhelmina BISCHOFF b. abt 1832 and > her mother Johanna BISCHOFF nee WESTWINK. > > I know that Carl and Johanna were here in 1852 as they were married in > Emerald Hill in that year, but that is all I know !! > > The Irish names I am lacking are: > > Two David NOLANs - father and son. Father b. abt 1804 Co Kerry IRL and > son > b. abt 1841 reg in Ardfert, Co Kerry IRL. Father David died in 1894 in > Talbotville, Vic. I know son David was in Oz by 1872 because he married > my > g grandmother in 1872 in Omeo. > > Thomas McHenry was b abt 1820 in Dublin IRL and married in Vic, Oz in > 1846. > > I have hunted for all the variations I can think off, convicts etc, all > states but cannot find any of them. > > Any help or ideas would be very gratefully received > > Irene R > > Rees/Dowsett Family Page > > http://tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

As you choose not to reveal 'his' name I can only suggest that you go through the archives and look for other requests for assistance and follow the thread. Many search suggestions & links are sitting in the archives. Regards, Mike Kirby -----Original Message----- From: Monica Murray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] arrival in S.A. Hello Listers I have hit a brick wall & I'm hoping that some kind & knowledgable person may be able to help me The ancestor I'm researching appears in South Australia in 1851 when he was married, unfortunately his marriage certificate gives me no information as to where he was born or who his parents were, his death certificate in 1859 also was no help, I looked on the 1841 census & he doesn't appear on that, so I must assume that he arrived in S.A some time after 1841 prior to 1851, I looked on all the online sites that I can find Can anybody help me please? Thank you Monica ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hello Listers I have hit a brick wall & I'm hoping that some kind & knowledgable person may be able to help me The ancestor I'm researching appears in South Australia in 1851 when he was married, unfortunately his marriage certificate gives me no information as to where he was born or who his parents were, his death certificate in 1859 also was no help, I looked on the 1841 census & he doesn't appear on that, so I must assume that he arrived in S.A some time after 1841 prior to 1851, I looked on all the online sites that I can find Can anybody help me please? Thank you Monica

I have been researching Heinrich "Henry" BRAUER of Tenterfield. I have established that he arrived in Brisbane on board "Johann Cesar" with son Henry. The Ship departed Hamburg 30th September 1855. After he had been here for some time he sent for his wife and children to come out. I cannot find any reference to their arrival. The family were:- Julia BRAUER nee KESTON/CASTON/KARSTEN/HASTON Frederick BRAUER Charles Henry BRAUER Dorothea BRAUER They later had a child George born in Tenterfield in 1860 which shows they arrived between 1855 and 1860. Can anyone please help. Mick

Hi listers, I've seen the scan of the list for the above voyage at http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1871/06/012com.htm and was wondering if these lists have the only details of the passengers or is there more available on the reels? It doesn't give age, place of birth or origin - nothing but the name, in this case only "Mr Giles". I'd like to know how to get more info on the identity of this Mr Giles. Many thanks in advance, Katrina

You are welcome, Ross Regards Meg From: "Ross Sneddon" <[email protected]> Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Albemarle > To: > Leanne, > MargaretM > Meg > Lynne > I think I have everyone > > Thankyou all for your help in trying to sort out my confusion with > Albemarle and other ships and to find my convict John Stevenson. I > appreciate your information and advice. I will now settle down to sorting > it all out and that will take me some time.