Hi I was wondering if anyone knows of a Clifford Hill Knight that travelled with Frank Ryan to Australia from London in 1927. That is the only information I have so I know it is not much to go on. I live in outback NSW and only have access to research over internet. I have spent a lot of time hunting but to no luck. Michele Broken HIll

I was wondering if someone could confirm if my grandmother Gladys Swarbrick Knight her son Kenneth Knight aged 2 and sister Edna Dawson travelled on the SS Bendigo from England to Australia. I have an envelope in her writing "Arrived Australia Bendigo June 28 1928" and thats as much information that anyone has. Hoping you can help Thanks Michele

I was wondering if someone could confirm if my grandmother Gladys Swarbrick Knight her son Kenneth Knight aged 2 and sister Edna Dawson travelled on the SS Bendigo from England to Australia. I have an envelope in her writing "Arrived Australia Bendigo June 28 1928" and thats as much information that anyone has. Hoping you can help Thanks Michele

----- Original Message ----- From: "Katrina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Finding ancestor "lost at sea" (NSW) 1852 > > Hello, > > I've found a reference to my ancestor Thomas Gibson, being > lost at sea between Sydney > and Newcastle in Sept 1852. He was listed in various > documents as a sea captain and > master mariner. The vessel was described as his schooner > "Harrieff" which could be > "Harriett" Hi Katrina Have a wonder thru http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html There should be some ref there to any lost ship No' Harriet' in the right year in the National Shipwrecks data base http://eied.deh.gov.au/nsd/public/Search.cfm Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW .

Katrina if he was drowned at sea, and no body was found, then it was unlikely that a death certificate would be issued in Australia, especially if this was an Australian registered ship. The newspapers usually recorded the deaths of the masters of regular trading ships in and out of Australian ports. If he was Sydney based, then they would be the best papers to start with. The papers usually also records shipwrecks, men overboard, unusual incidents etc. best wishes JennyFawcett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katrina" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Finding ancestor "lost at sea" (NSW) 1852 > > Hello, > > I've found a reference to my ancestor Thomas Gibson, being lost at sea between Sydney > and Newcastle in Sept 1852. He was listed in various documents as a sea captain and > master mariner. The vessel was described as his schooner "Harrieff" which could be > "Harriett". I've searched Google with no luck, apart from the first reference, which > is at a site by someone who is from an American branch and hasn't yet replied to my > email. > > I can't find a death entry for Thomas and was wondering if there was anywhere else > such death records may be found. Thomas married Jane Eastcott in Sydney, 1842. Jane > remarried in 1854. I suppose newspapers of the day might be the only record of the > vessel being lost. > > I'm guessing he was a local mariner but don't know that. I don't know where Thomas > was born. > > Here's hoping someone has a clue... > > Best wishes, > Katrina > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > >

Hi Katrina, Maybe one of the shipwrecks mentioned below is your "Harrieff/Harriett" http://oceans1.customer.netspace.net.au/nsw-wrecks.html Harriet. Wooden two-masted schooner, 43 tons. Built Manning River, 1840; Sydney, 69/1840. Lbd 47 x 15.9 x 8 ft. Captain Love. Cleared Sydney Heads for Newcastle April 1844 and disappeared in a gale. Last seen near Bird Island. [GB],[SAN] Harriete. Cutter. Ashore and lost while crossing the Richmond River bar, NSW, 11 May 1851. [LN] Harriett. Wooden cutter, 30 tons. Built NSW, 1843; reg. Sydney, 56/1846. Length 39 ft. Lost on the Richmond River bar, 1851. [SAN] The Shipping Gazette and Sydney General Trade List starts in March 1844, so is probably too late. http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html Happy hunting, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- Hello, I've found a reference to my ancestor Thomas Gibson, being lost at sea between Sydney and Newcastle in Sept 1852. He was listed in various documents as a sea captain and master mariner. The vessel was described as his schooner "Harrieff" which could be "Harriett". I've searched Google with no luck, apart from the first reference, which is at a site by someone who is from an American branch and hasn't yet replied to my email. I can't find a death entry for Thomas and was wondering if there was anywhere else such death records may be found. Thomas married Jane Eastcott in Sydney, 1842. Jane remarried in 1854. I suppose newspapers of the day might be the only record of the vessel being lost. I'm guessing he was a local mariner but don't know that. I don't know where Thomas was born. Here's hoping someone has a clue... Best wishes, Katrina

Hello, I've found a reference to my ancestor Thomas Gibson, being lost at sea between Sydney and Newcastle in Sept 1852. He was listed in various documents as a sea captain and master mariner. The vessel was described as his schooner "Harrieff" which could be "Harriett". I've searched Google with no luck, apart from the first reference, which is at a site by someone who is from an American branch and hasn't yet replied to my email. I can't find a death entry for Thomas and was wondering if there was anywhere else such death records may be found. Thomas married Jane Eastcott in Sydney, 1842. Jane remarried in 1854. I suppose newspapers of the day might be the only record of the vessel being lost. I'm guessing he was a local mariner but don't know that. I don't know where Thomas was born. Here's hoping someone has a clue... Best wishes, Katrina

hi i'm ken i'm new at this i'm begining to trace my family i have found my grandfathers marriage in nsw . he was walter h harriden who married ellen maccracken in albury in 1896 i cannot find his birth in nsw so i am surmising he immigrated sometime prior to then. i am hoping SKS can do a look up for me and maybe find the ship they arrived in. would realy appreciate any help with this matter. Regards Ken

Hi I have two ancestors Cook William and Cook Charles. William Cook married Louisa Richardson 1856 Penwortham witnesses George Wood Thomas Browning William Cook married Maria Kemp in Kaniva Victoria about 1861 Charles Cook married Isabella Robertson 1861 Upper Wakefield witnesses John Cook and Maria Cook (I believe this Maria Cook is likely to be 2nd wife of William Cook) So who is this John Cook? William possibly? In a newspaper article re death of Charles Cook's son in 1933 it states "Late William James Cook who was the son of Charles and Isabella Cook. His mother migrated on the ship Shakamaxon in 1853 and his father followed later from England" I have the Shakamaxon list. From the SLSA records A Cook John and William arrived aboard Calphurnia April 1849. I have been unable to locate a Cook Charles arriving between 1852 to 1861. Any help greatly appreciated Cheers Kate

Hi Maureen, Is this the information you obtained online? Unassisted Immigrants to Victoria from Foreign Ports Mr. HASSALL, 31yrs, May 1856, Spray of the Ocean, B(ritish Port) fiche 108, Page 004 If you look at fiche B108, page 004, it will be an image of the page from the ship's register that has your Mr. HASSALL on it. As he was unassisted, there is probably no more information on the image than what is indexed online. Looking at the ship's register would give you information about the ship - Captain's name, port of departure, other ports of call, number of voyage days, tonnage, etc. You could also see the names of the other passengers. You could also print the page to add to your family history file. If he had been an 'Assisted Immigrant' there would almost certainly be more to find out from the ship's register. Regards, Maureen ----- Original Message ----- Thankyou Maureen. Excuse my ignorance but does that mean there is more information on their lists than what is shown online from the Vic PRO? Kind regards Maureen ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Maureen, > > I see you are in Sydney. Cape Banks FHS (Sydney eastern > suburbs) has the following shipping indexes and registers/lists > for Victoria: > * ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS from UK TO VICTORIA > 1839-1871 Index > * ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS from UK TO VICTORIA > 1839-1871 Introduction & Registers > * COASTAL PASSENGERS to PORT PHILLIP 1839-1845 > * PORT PHILLIP "HERALD" PASSENGER Index 1840-1846 > * PORT PHILLIP "HERALD" VESSEL Index 1840-1846 > * INWARD SHIPPING to VICTORIA from OVERSEAS & > INTERCOLONIAL PORTS 1846-1852 - Guide, Index & > Registers > * GERMAN IMMIGRANTS to PORT PHILLIP 1849-1850 > Index > * INWARD PASSENGERS from OVERSEAS to PORT > PHILLIP pre 1852 (unassisted) > * INWARD PASSENGER Indexes from BRITISH PORTS to > VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 > * INWARD PASSENGER Lists from BRITISH PORTS to > VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889, > 1890-1899 > * INWARD PASSENGER Indexes from FOREIGN PORTS to > VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 > * INWARD PASSENGER Lists from FOREIGN PORTS to > VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889, > 1890-1899 > * VICTORIAN DESERTERS FROM SHIPS Index 1853-1880 > * OUTWARD PASSENGER Lists from VICTORIA to > NEW ZEALAND 1852-1860, 1861-1865, 1866-1870 > > Regards another Maureen > > Cape Banks Family History Society (Sydney eastern suburbs) > http://www.capebanks.org.au/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi All, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can > get a full transcription from a passenger list. > > I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the > Ocean' that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed > only as 'Mr Hassall'. > > I'm hoping to find out more about him. > > Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney

Thankyou all, I am most grateful for your help! Cheers Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Radford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Spray of the Ocean > Hi Maureen, > The records are on fiche at Society of Australia Genealogists Sydney > you need the fiche Number 108, Page 004 > B = British. > There will info of ship + Master/Captain. It depends how much info is > recorded. You may not find his given name, although it looks as though there > may be one, given the ---. > The State Records Office also have these, but I believe they have a > different call number, so best to check with them first. > Kind regards, > Lynne, Sydney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Player" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:30 AM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Spray of the Ocean > > > > Hi All, > > > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can get a > > full transcription from a passenger list. > > > > I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the Ocean' > > that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed only as 'Mr > > Hassall'. > > > > I'm hoping to find out more about him. > > > > Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Maureen, The records are on fiche at Society of Australia Genealogists Sydney you need the fiche Number 108, Page 004 B = British. There will info of ship + Master/Captain. It depends how much info is recorded. You may not find his given name, although it looks as though there may be one, given the ---. The State Records Office also have these, but I believe they have a different call number, so best to check with them first. Kind regards, Lynne, Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Player" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Spray of the Ocean > Hi All, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can get a > full transcription from a passenger list. > > I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the Ocean' > that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed only as 'Mr > Hassall'. > > I'm hoping to find out more about him. > > Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

A tip if you can't find your ancestor's entry - the registers may be held and indexed in another State. I found my grandfather's entry into Australia after giving up twenty years ago. My daughter and I had spent many hours at the NSW State Archives looking. We had been told that the family had arrived in Sydney on the 'Orient'. Eventually we were told at the archives that 'they had probably arrived in steerage' and that steerage passengers' names were not recorded and that our only hope was to look in the newspapers of the day. Recently and by accident, I found that the 'Orient' was included in the wonderful microfiche series of Shipping & Immigration into Victoria put out by the PRO of Victoria. The full registers of the Orient are there - all the passengers disembarking in Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney. Happy hunting, Maureen

Try Nick Vine Hall's lists of ships & passengers on: vinehall.com.au Happy hunting! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Player" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Spray of the Ocean > Hi All, > > I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can get a > full transcription from a passenger list. > > I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the Ocean' > that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed only as 'Mr > Hassall'. > > I'm hoping to find out more about him. > > Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Maureen, I see you are in Sydney. Cape Banks FHS (Sydney eastern suburbs) has the following shipping indexes and registers/lists for Victoria: * ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS from UK TO VICTORIA 1839-1871 Index * ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS from UK TO VICTORIA 1839-1871 Introduction & Registers * COASTAL PASSENGERS to PORT PHILLIP 1839-1845 * PORT PHILLIP "HERALD" PASSENGER Index 1840-1846 * PORT PHILLIP "HERALD" VESSEL Index 1840-1846 * INWARD SHIPPING to VICTORIA from OVERSEAS & INTERCOLONIAL PORTS 1846-1852 - Guide, Index & Registers * GERMAN IMMIGRANTS to PORT PHILLIP 1849-1850 Index * INWARD PASSENGERS from OVERSEAS to PORT PHILLIP pre 1852 (unassisted) * INWARD PASSENGER Indexes from BRITISH PORTS to VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 * INWARD PASSENGER Lists from BRITISH PORTS to VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 * INWARD PASSENGER Indexes from FOREIGN PORTS to VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 * INWARD PASSENGER Lists from FOREIGN PORTS to VICTORIA 1852-1859, 1860-1869, 1870-1879, 1880-1889 * VICTORIAN DESERTERS FROM SHIPS Index 1853-1880 * OUTWARD PASSENGER Lists from VICTORIA to NEW ZEALAND 1852-1860, 1861-1865, 1866-1870 * Immigration to Victoria, Index to Inward Passengers Lists - British Ports 1890 - 1899 * Immigration to Victoria, Index to Inward Passengers Lists - Foreign Ports 1890 - 1899 Regards another Maureen Cape Banks Family History Society (Sydney eastern suburbs) http://www.capebanks.org.au/ ----- Original Message ----- Hi All, I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can get a full transcription from a passenger list. I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the Ocean' that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed only as 'Mr Hassall'. I'm hoping to find out more about him. Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney

Hi All, I am new to this list and am wondering if anyone knows how I can get a full transcription from a passenger list. I have been trying to trace a passenger on the ship 'Spray of the Ocean' that arrived in Melbourne in 1856. The passenger is listed only as 'Mr Hassall'. I'm hoping to find out more about him. Kind regards Maureen Player Sydney

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ships Voyage > Hi > Could someone point me in the direction of a good website that details > what it would have been like for either convicts or immigrants aboard the > ship coming to Australia. I'm after one with vivid details and possibly > some photos. Hi Terri, Try www.convictcentral.com Has a great deal of info on the ships ........ but dont think there are any photos . Try google for that Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > Thanks > Terri > from cloudy queensland > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

This is not a website Terri but I can recommend Charles Bateson's Convict Ships for good descriptions of some of the voyages especially the early ones. Some photos available http://libapp.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/spydus/FULL/PM/COMB/336/404183,2 this is worth a try also http://home.vicnet.net.au/~firstff/welcome.htm Meg Sunny & cold SE Qld From: "Terri Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:59 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Ships Voyage > Hi > Could someone point me in the direction of a good website that details > what it would have been like for either convicts or immigrants aboard the > ship coming to Australia. I'm after one with vivid details and possibly > some photos.

Hi Could someone point me in the direction of a good website that details what it would have been like for either convicts or immigrants aboard the ship coming to Australia. I'm after one with vivid details and possibly some photos. Thanks Terri from cloudy queensland

Hi David, I have an entry here for a Helen Gloag aboard Broomielaw It says Helen Gloag Introduced :Thomas Corbett Her age was 28 Occupation Cook and from Scotland. Kind regards Leanne Baulch Canberra ----- Original Message ----- From: "List Admin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:20 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] FW: Broomielaw 1857 to Launceston, Tasmania > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Green [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Broomielaw 1857 to Launceston, Tasmania > > I would be particularly interested in any details of (a) the ship > "Broomielaw' and its voyage in 1857 and (b) the passenger list - > particularly my great great grandmother Helen Gloag who I beleive was a > passenger on that voyage. > Many thanks, > David Green > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >