Hi Marg There is a James Campbell in the 1841 Census at Sutton Forest and I got a copy of an Insolvency at the Archives for James Campbell of the Prince Prince Albert Inn, Berrima Road 1860 "Late of Campbelltown". At this stage I can't prove a connection. Henry Campbell married Jane Wallace Ure at Paradise near Inverell in 1861, they had 15 children. Henry's death certificate gave his parents as James Campbell, hotelkeeper and Mary Shaw and stated Campbelltown was his birth place. MargM wrote:. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] JAMES CAMPBELL > >> >> I have records for the convicts but according to a list of British >> Bounty Emigrants, extracted from British Parliamentary Papers, who >> came to NSW between 1825 and 1832 there was a James Campbell weaver, >> family 6 at a price of 20 pounds. > > > No included in this CD > >> >> I'm not sure how to find the ship the family was on, I've searched >> microfilms containing Bounty Immigrants for that period at the Archives > > > This CD just an upmarket version of the films we used to have to use > So if an event isnt in the films then it wont be in to CD > > > >> and the local library, without success. My great grandfather was >> born in Campbelltown c1833 parents James Campbell hotelkeeper and >> Mary Shaw. > > > > Cant find this combo in the NSW Pioneers inxdexes ????? > > There is a James CAMPBELL in the 1841 census out at Dutton Forrest ? > > This CAMPBELL family not in the Campbelltown Pioneers book > > >> No one in the family has been able to trace Henry's parents or >> siblings (if there were any). > > > Who was Henry ? > > Bye > > > MargM > Member of > CC FHS > Gosford > NSW > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] JAMES CAMPBELL > > I have records for the convicts but according to a list > of British Bounty Emigrants, extracted from British > Parliamentary Papers, who came to NSW between 1825 and > 1832 there was a James Campbell weaver, family 6 at a > price of 20 pounds. No included in this CD > > I'm not sure how to find the ship the family was on, > I've searched microfilms containing Bounty Immigrants > for that period at the Archives This CD just an upmarket version of the films we used to have to use So if an event isnt in the films then it wont be in to CD > and the local library, without success. My great > grandfather was born in Campbelltown c1833 parents James > Campbell hotelkeeper and Mary Shaw. Cant find this combo in the NSW Pioneers inxdexes ????? There is a James CAMPBELL in the 1841 census out at Dutton Forrest ? This CAMPBELL family not in the Campbelltown Pioneers book > No one in the family has been able to trace Henry's > parents or siblings (if there were any). Who was Henry ? Bye MargM Member of CC FHS Gosford NSW

Thank you MargM I have records for the convicts but according to a list of British Bounty Emigrants, extracted from British Parliamentary Papers, who came to NSW between 1825 and 1832 there was a James Campbell weaver, family 6 at a price of 20 pounds. I'm not sure how to find the ship the family was on, I've searched microfilms containing Bounty Immigrants for that period at the Archives and the local library, without success. My great grandfather was born in Campbelltown c1833 parents James Campbell hotelkeeper and Mary Shaw. No one in the family has been able to trace Henry's parents or siblings (if there were any). Marj MargM wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howland" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:53 PM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] JAMES CAMPBELL > > >> I would appreciate if someone who has the Bounty CD would have a look >> for James Campbell between 1825 and 1832. > > > > > Hi Marj > > This CD covers migrant arrivals 1828 - 1843 . Earliest James CAMPBELL > came in 1837 . Were 2 x James CAMPBELL convicts who came here in 1822 > ? Both in the 1828 census > > > Bye > > > MargM > Member of > CC FHS > Gosford > NSW > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi List, If some kind person has access to Bounty Ships CD - could they do a lookup for me, please? Lot FLANNERY & Margaret COLLINS from Ireland in 1841. Thank you, Christine [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howland" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] JAMES CAMPBELL >I would appreciate if someone who has the Bounty CD would >have a look for James Campbell between 1825 and 1832. Hi Marj This CD covers migrant arrivals 1828 - 1843 . Earliest James CAMPBELL came in 1837 . Were 2 x James CAMPBELL convicts who came here in 1822 ? Both in the 1828 census Bye MargM Member of CC FHS Gosford NSW

I would appreciate if someone who has the Bounty CD would have a look for James Campbell between 1825 and 1832. Many thanks in advance. Marj

Hi List, If some kind person has access to Bounty Ships CD - could they do a lookup for me, please? Lot FLANNERY & Margaret COLLINS from Ireland in 1841. Thank you, Christine [email protected]

Liz, I got my information about the arrival of my relies from the shipping indexes in the Victorian archives. I think the web site is http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au . From the indexes I looked up copies of the original records on microfiche at the Victorian Archives Centre which is at the top end of Spring St. I don't know anything about Elizabeth McMillan from Scotland except that her immigration record is found in Vol 11 p162 in the archives for the "Gambia" assisted-passengers and she was to work as a domestic for Joseph Hall. Ian Dann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis and Liz Seaton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] McCance, 1853, "Marion Moore" or "Confiance"? > Hi Ian > Thank you for that info. When you say "Processed through customs", do you > know of a source other than the passenger lists from the Confiance that > tells of passengers processed through Geelong? I am new to research and > having a job working out 'where to go next' with my investigations, as well > as being limited by the tyranny of distance and reliance on on-line > resources. > Those passengers had it rough,eh? > > Also, I found this reference on the clan Mc Millan site > > > Elizabeth 24 Ayr Gambia 22/4/1855 11/162 Dom Serv F Joseph Hall > > > > Do you know anything about her? > > > > http://clanmacmillanaus.freeservers.com/shipping.html > > > Hope you can help > Cheers > Liz > Liz Seaton

Hi Ian Thank you for that info. When you say "Processed through customs", do you know of a source other than the passenger lists from the Confiance that tells of passengers processed through Geelong? I am new to research and having a job working out 'where to go next' with my investigations, as well as being limited by the tyranny of distance and reliance on on-line resources. Those passengers had it rough,eh? Also, I found this reference on the clan Mc Millan site Elizabeth 24 Ayr Gambia 22/4/1855 11/162 Dom Serv F Joseph Hall Do you know anything about her? http://clanmacmillanaus.freeservers.com/shipping.html Hope you can help Cheers Liz Liz Seaton [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian dann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] McCance, 1853, "Marion Moore" or "Confiance"? > Liz, > > I don't have anything concrete about quarantining of "Marion Moore" > passengers except that there were 19 deaths (mainly children & infants) > and > susposedly other sickness, but I can't think of another explanation why > members of the McCance/McMillan family were processed through customs from > two ships yet they were all listed as passengers on the "Marion Moore". > > The "Marion Moore" left Liverpool on 15/11/1852 and the "Confiance" on > 8/12/1852. There were 27 deaths on the "Confiance" and many cases of > whooping cough, dysentery and scurvy requiring the whole ship to be > officially quarantined (from a google search & other family members). I > think that although there were some sick passengers on the "Marion Moore" > who needed to be quarantined (including the McCances & younger McMillans) > it > wasn't serious enough to quarantine the whole ship as with th "Confiance". > > Since both ships sailed from Liverpool, other family members have > suggested > that, because of overbooking on the "Marion Moore", the McCances were held > over until the "Confiance" left. I disagree with this, since I can't see > why a shipping company would split up a family when there would've been > other alternatives but still leave them on the passenger list, and without > even > considering the difficulties of a poor Irish family staying in Liverpool > for > another three weeks after the "Marion Moore" left. > > Ian Dann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Francis and Liz Seaton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] McCance, 1853, "Marion Moore" or "Confiance"? > > >> Ian >> Your info is very interesting and, in fact, the Marion Moore is a ship > whose >> records I plan to check for Joseph Hall. Where did you get the info re >> quarantining, please? >> Thank you >> Liz >> Liz Seaton >> [email protected] >> RMB 1030 Howes Creek Road >> Mansfield VIC 3722 > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Angela Am a novice at researching though found an interesting site for ships at http://www.reach.net/~sc001198/ShipsC2.htm The Chimborazo is mentioned and gives details of tonnage etc. Another site is www.anmm.gov.au/lib/iss.htm Australian Maritime musem which has suggested places to do further research. Hope that info is helpful. Cheers Liz Liz Seaton [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:39 AM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Chimborazo > My ancestor arrived in Victoria, Australia Sept. 1886 on the Chimborazo > and > the rest of the family arrived on the Lusitania in April 1887. How can I > find out what port they left from and anything about the ships > themselves? > > Angela > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Hi List, If some kind person has access to Bounty Ships Passenger List - could they do a lookup for me, please? Lot FLANNERY & Margaret COLLINS from Ireland - in Mar 1841 (I think it would be NSW). Thank you, Christine [email protected]

Hi Edna, There was a Ralph Reid who left London 20th Dec 1835 and arrived in Sydney on the 18th May 1836. He was aboard the "Henry Tanner". Kind regards Leanne Baulch Canberra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna MacPherson SABATO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Bounty CD lookup please? > X-SpamDetect-Info: ------------- Start ASpam results --------------- > X-SpamDetect-Info: This message may be spam. This message BODY has been > altered so X-SpamDetect-Info: your mail client can be set to filter it, > see http://netwinsite.com/surgemail/aspaminfo.htm > X-SpamDetect: *: 1.500000 Content: cid=56(1.5) =1.5 > X-SpamDetect-Info: ------------- End ASpam results ----------------- > > Would SKS please do a lookup for Ralph REID, born Scotland, 1815, arrived > Australia 1830s, possibly Sydney? > Many thanks. > Edna MacPherson Sabato > www.sabatech.net/scotchman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Bounty CD lookup please? > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I would like to thank you for all your input when some of us are battling with a problem. I have noticed you helping on many of the Ozzie lists, and I would like you to know how much it is appreciated! You have also helped me on a couple of occasions. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Bounty CD lookup please? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edna MacPherson SABATO" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Bounty CD lookup please? > > >> Would SKS please do a lookup for Ralph REID, born Scotland, 1815, arrived >> Australia 1830s, possibly Sydney? >> . > Hi Edna > > Sorry , no Ralph REID in the Bounty indexes CD > > > Bye > MargM > Beautiful Central Coast of NSW > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi - This is not of much value, because imprecise, but there is a book about the Highlands and Islands Emigration Scheme (HIES) which brought Scots out in the late forties and early fifties, at the time of the Clearances - there is some good material on the quarantine procedures, in it. My lot came on Ontario, departing Liverpool 3.8.1852. There were many deaths on board and of course a spell in quarantine on NSW Head, 26.11.1982-15.12.1852. I hope this helps a little - Lois > > > > > ===

Liz, I don't have anything concrete about quarantining of "Marion Moore" passengers except that there were 19 deaths (mainly children & infants) and susposedly other sickness, but I can't think of another explanation why members of the McCance/McMillan family were processed through customs from two ships yet they were all listed as passengers on the "Marion Moore". The "Marion Moore" left Liverpool on 15/11/1852 and the "Confiance" on 8/12/1852. There were 27 deaths on the "Confiance" and many cases of whooping cough, dysentery and scurvy requiring the whole ship to be officially quarantined (from a google search & other family members). I think that although there were some sick passengers on the "Marion Moore" who needed to be quarantined (including the McCances & younger McMillans) it wasn't serious enough to quarantine the whole ship as with th "Confiance". Since both ships sailed from Liverpool, other family members have suggested that, because of overbooking on the "Marion Moore", the McCances were held over until the "Confiance" left. I disagree with this, since I can't see why a shipping company would split up a family when there would've been other alternatives but still leave them on the passenger list, and without even considering the difficulties of a poor Irish family staying in Liverpool for another three weeks after the "Marion Moore" left. Ian Dann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francis and Liz Seaton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] McCance, 1853, "Marion Moore" or "Confiance"? > Ian > Your info is very interesting and, in fact, the Marion Moore is a ship whose > records I plan to check for Joseph Hall. Where did you get the info re > quarantining, please? > Thank you > Liz > Liz Seaton > [email protected] > RMB 1030 Howes Creek Road > Mansfield VIC 3722

My ancestor arrived in Victoria, Australia Sept. 1886 on the Chimborazo and the rest of the family arrived on the Lusitania in April 1887. How can I find out what port they left from and anything about the ships themselves? Angela

Ian Your info is very interesting and, in fact, the Marion Moore is a ship whose records I plan to check for Joseph Hall. Where did you get the info re quarantining, please? Thank you Liz Liz Seaton [email protected] RMB 1030 Howes Creek Road Mansfield VIC 3722 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian dann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] McCance, 1853, "Marion Moore" or "Confiance"? > My gg gparents (John & Agnes McCance) and family were processed through > customs at Geelong as assisted immigrants (12/4/1853) with the "Confiance" > passengers (book 10, pp 88 & 93). The "Confiance" had been quarantined at > Portsea on 7/4/1853. The ship's manifest for the "Marion Moore" (arrived > Geelong, 15/2/1853), however, listed them (although their names were > crossed out) as passengers along with Agnes' eldest married sons (Hamilton > & John McMillan, from her first marriage) and their families. > > To explain this duplication on passenger lists - > a.. Were the McCances quarantined at Portsea from the "Marion Moore" > until the "Confiance" arrived and from which 137 passengers were > quarantined? > b.. Were the 137 "Confiance" passengers quarantined ashore for say six > weeks and the "Confiance" allowed to sail onto Geelong with the healthy > passengers and those from previous ships (including the McCances) who had > completed their quarantine at Portsea? > c.. Are there any surviving quarantine-records from that period which may > pinpoint when the McCances arrived? > Ian Dann > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

My gg gparents (John & Agnes McCance) and family were processed through customs at Geelong as assisted immigrants (12/4/1853) with the "Confiance" passengers (book 10, pp 88 & 93). The "Confiance" had been quarantined at Portsea on 7/4/1853. The ship's manifest for the "Marion Moore" (arrived Geelong, 15/2/1853), however, listed them (although their names were crossed out) as passengers along with Agnes' eldest married sons (Hamilton & John McMillan, from her first marriage) and their families. To explain this duplication on passenger lists - a.. Were the McCances quarantined at Portsea from the "Marion Moore" until the "Confiance" arrived and from which 137 passengers were quarantined? b.. Were the 137 "Confiance" passengers quarantined ashore for say six weeks and the "Confiance" allowed to sail onto Geelong with the healthy passengers and those from previous ships (including the McCances) who had completed their quarantine at Portsea? c.. Are there any surviving quarantine-records from that period which may pinpoint when the McCances arrived? Ian Dann

I am searching for James Campbell who emigrated to Sydney as a bounty immigrant between 1825 and 1832. He is on a list of Emmigrants from Britain & Ireland during that period extracted from British parliamentary papers. The only information given apart from statistics is that he was part of a family of 6 and the bounty sum was 20 pounds. Any information regarding James Campbell and possibly his wife Mary? would be appreciated. Marj Howland

----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna MacPherson SABATO" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-IMM-SHIPS] Bounty CD lookup please? > Would SKS please do a lookup for Ralph REID, born > Scotland, 1815, arrived Australia 1830s, possibly > Sydney? > . Hi Edna Sorry , no Ralph REID in the Bounty indexes CD Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW