Dear Jill I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain your information. If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may find your ancestors. Regards Yvonne Izatt http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm

Dear Yvonne, How very kind of you to give so much help. I found eveidence of the Herder with four Honigs including an Auguste on a shipping to South Aus website. I thought it was GG Grandmother until I noticed the age on another site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dicummings/Images/Ships . This site said the boat left HANOVER. I don't think it is the right person The Auguste is listed as 14 and she should be 16 or 17. Maybe she lied. She married Thomas Botten in Adelaide on April 6th 1853 aged 18. She could not have therefore been on the Dochenhuden which arrived later. I have checked every ship's passenger list able to be accessed on Dianne Cummings list that left Hanover before that date and did not find another Honig. There were only three ships whose lists could not be accessed. I don't know of course if she came from the Hanover region so at present I can't be too specific in my research with the LDS. Another very kind correspondent suggested I research the births of her ! other children to see if I can gain more details of her place of birth...it is a good suggestion..especially for her later born Victorian children. I intend to try this after the Christmas break when the Research facility opens again. I am extremely grateful for your help, sometimes you just get lost for where to go next. Have a wonderful New Year and good luck with your research. Regards Jill Cummins ----- Original Message --- -- From: "Yvonne Izatt" <yvon@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] > Dear Jill > > I have been watching your messages and today I checked the indexes of the > Hamburg passenger lists and the only Honig's listed came on the Dockenhuden > in 1854. Also on checking the indexes there is no ship by the name of the > Herder coming from Hamburg at all on these indexes. Where did you obtain > your information. > If you know the details of the emigration date and there is a passenger list > it usually gives the last place of residence on these lists, which in most > cases will be their place of birth. On the other hand if it was a small > ship with under 25 passenger records will not have been kept in Hamburg. > However there are police records which were kept on any persons from outside > Hamburg which may give further details of place of birth. I did not take a > copy of the last place of residence of the 1854 Honigs but can check next > week after Christmas if you wish. They may be from the same village which > often happened. If that is the case and if the LDS has filmed the church > records of the village you may wish to order a film and with luck you may > find your ancestors. > > Regards > Yvonne Izatt > http://www.gsv.org.au/Groups/isg.htm > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > Remember, to unsubscribe, send an email to aus-german-l-request@rootsweb.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >