G'day Geoff, Unfortunately the trail is a bit cold as far as contacts are concerned, as I did my German research in 1987. The elderly archivist in the Mine Warden's Office would no doubt be maintaining St Peter's records by now. I suggest you may like to drop a line to the Bergamptarkiv - Clausthal and see if it strikes a chord. The Bergamptarkiv translates roughly as the Mine Warden's Records. The connection between the Bergampt and emigration from the area is very interesting. Because the area was a major base metal mining area dating back to the middle ages, the Bergampt was the major arm of Government for the Kingdom of Hanover. In 1848, the great European potato famine hit the area hard. This, together with decline in the quality of the ore bodies and the opening up of richer British Mines in South America, led to an exodus of miners from Clausthal - Zellarfeld. In those days, the Hun and the Poms were a bit cosier than in later years and as Queen Victoria needed miners in South America, as well as vine dressers and farmers in colonial Oz, she set up an assisted passage scheme for anyone who wanted to leave. The scheme was administered by the Bergampt and hence his office forms a valuable research library.. I was amazed to see rack after rack of ancient manila folders, tied with mauve ribbon, sitting in the archive library. My folks applied for assisted passage and then reported back to the Emigration Officer that they would make their own way. All of this to - ing and fro - ing is recorded in the Alte Deutche Gothic script in the records. Regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Leunig [mailto:leunig@dcsi.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 5:12 AM To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants Gooday Bob, I, too, have been to Clausthal and been able to follow my family through the Church records. But I find it interesting that you were able to get extra information from the Mine Warden, something I didn't do. Do you have a contact please? Geoff Leunig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moritz, Bob" <bfmoritz@bechtel.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 4:51 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > Jill, > > The Moritz family in Australia, until recent times, were all descended from > Gottlieb and Henrietta's children. > > We have a family treasure in the form of a lady cousin who has made it > a major part of her life to research the family history. > > Her research has included face to face interviews with most of the > family members and she has been shown a lot of documents including > Gottlieb's passport. > > The upshot is that she has obtained a large body of material which she > has published in a family history book. > > In support of her effort, I visited Clausthal - Zellarfeld, which is > in the > beautiful Harz Mountains region of Germany, some years ago. I was > given access to Lutheran Church records, as well as the Mine Wardens files. > > "Vie Germans keep ze records." Both sources had family records - in > particular, the mine Warden had a detailed entry on Gottlieb's > initial application for assisted passage and later advice that he had > decided to emigrate at his own expense. > > I don't know if this helps much, but it gives an idea of how to get > some of > the family information. > > Regards > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill and Bill Cummins [mailto:cummins@hotlinks.net.au] > Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 10:29 AM > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > > Thanks Bob, > But how did you find this out when shipping notes just say "left Bremen" and > mariage notes say "Germany" and it is a female I am trying to trace? > Why would a German father have a french name like Louis Phillipe Honig ... > >From cloudy Melbourne but who cares at least it is not hot and humid. > JILL > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > For your Aus-German resources go to > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx