Gooday Bob, Thanks for a comprehensive reply to my query regarding the Mine Warden's records. I'll see what I can do with your leads. Geoff Leunig Warragul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moritz, Bob" <bfmoritz@bechtel.com> To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 26 November 2004 1:07 PM Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > G'day Geoff, > > Unfortunately the trail is a bit cold as far as contacts are concerned, as I > did my German research in 1987. > > The elderly archivist in the Mine Warden's Office would no doubt be > maintaining St Peter's records by now. > > I suggest you may like to drop a line to the Bergamptarkiv - Clausthal and > see if it strikes a chord. > > The Bergamptarkiv translates roughly as the Mine Warden's Records. > > The connection between the Bergampt and emigration from the area is very > interesting. > > Because the area was a major base metal mining area dating back to the > middle ages, the Bergampt was the major arm of Government for the Kingdom of > Hanover. > > In 1848, the great European potato famine hit the area hard. > > This, together with decline in the quality of the ore bodies and the opening > up of richer British Mines in South America, led to an exodus of miners from > Clausthal - Zellarfeld. > > In those days, the Hun and the Poms were a bit cosier than in later years > and as Queen Victoria needed miners in South America, as well as vine > dressers and farmers in colonial Oz, she set up an assisted passage scheme > for anyone who wanted to leave. > > The scheme was administered by the Bergampt and hence his office forms a > valuable research library.. > > I was amazed to see rack after rack of ancient manila folders, tied with > mauve ribbon, sitting in the archive library. > > My folks applied for assisted passage and then reported back to the > Emigration Officer that they would make their own way. All of this to - ing > and fro - ing is recorded in the Alte Deutche Gothic script in the records. > > Regards > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Leunig [mailto:leunig@dcsi.net.au] > Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 5:12 AM > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > > > Gooday Bob, > > I, too, have been to Clausthal and been able to follow my family through the > Church records. But I find it interesting that you were able to get extra > information from the Mine Warden, something I didn't do. Do you have a > contact please? > > Geoff Leunig > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moritz, Bob" <bfmoritz@bechtel.com> > To: <AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 4:51 PM > Subject: RE: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > > > > Jill, > > > > The Moritz family in Australia, until recent times, were all descended > from > > Gottlieb and Henrietta's children. > > > > We have a family treasure in the form of a lady cousin who has made it > > a major part of her life to research the family history. > > > > Her research has included face to face interviews with most of the > > family members and she has been shown a lot of documents including > > Gottlieb's passport. > > > > The upshot is that she has obtained a large body of material which she > > has published in a family history book. > > > > In support of her effort, I visited Clausthal - Zellarfeld, which is > > in > the > > beautiful Harz Mountains region of Germany, some years ago. I was > > given access to Lutheran Church records, as well as the Mine Wardens > files. > > > > "Vie Germans keep ze records." Both sources had family records - in > > particular, the mine Warden had a detailed entry on Gottlieb's > > initial application for assisted passage and later advice that he had > > decided to emigrate at his own expense. > > > > I don't know if this helps much, but it gives an idea of how to get > > some > of > > the family information. > > > > Regards > > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jill and Bill Cummins [mailto:cummins@hotlinks.net.au] > > Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 10:29 AM > > To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AUS-GERMAN] South Australian Immigrants > > > > Thanks Bob, > > But how did you find this out when shipping notes just say "left Bremen" > and > > mariage notes say "Germany" and it is a female I am trying to trace? > > Why would a German father have a french name like Louis Phillipe Honig ... > > >From cloudy Melbourne but who cares at least it is not hot and humid. > > JILL > > > > > > ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== > > For your Aus-German resources go to > > http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm > > > > ============================== > > Expand your family tree. 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