hi meg my husband's family also arrived in australia on the beulah same date they were the linz family and settled newcastle/hunter area my husband's grandmother was dora linz and her father jacob linz took on an aussie first name and married english decent would you be able to contact me on my email? philst@bigpond.net.au regards fay -------Original Message------- From: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:03:54 To: AUS-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] Rheingau/Naeglein/Kauter familes I am travelling in Germany in late January and plan to visit the areas some of my forbears migrated from between Rudesheim and Eltville in the Rhinegau. Does anyone have any information/tips/ideas for travel, accommodation in this area - especially at that time of year (I'm well aware it's winter but it's our chance to get to that area). In connection with a recent discussion - my forbears were part of the group that came (some on the first ship in early 1849) under the Bounty Immigration Scheme to NSW for non-British nationals with skills in 'non-British' areas, particularly winegrowing. As others have said, this is very well detailed in "Greetings from the Land Where Milk and Honey Flows"edited Cloos and Tampke - I got my copy from NSW State Library Shop. A delightful feature of the book is the letters home from the immigrants just brimming with good news - of course some at least were propaganda for the immigration agent but they do have a very believable, positive tone - the book's title is a quotation from one of them. Although some of the children (including my family) did marry members of other German families, many more married non-German partners from the Irish Catholic community, particularly in the Hunter/Newcastle area My g- g- grandparents were Johann Naeglein and C/Katherina Kauter (whose brothers also migrated) from Erbach and Mittleheim respectively. They travelled with 2 small daughters on the "Beulah" arriving Sydney 4/4/1849 and settled in Lochinvar in the Hunter where they had several more children including my g-f, their only son, John. The surname was spelled at least 8 different ways but quickly settled on Negline (where it stayed). John married Martha Doran of Irish Catholic descent and the German identity faded - my generation grew up not knowing anything of it. This doesn't seem to have had a wartime cause - belonging to the new country pre-dated even WWI as far as I can tell. My g-g-f on my mother's side, Charles Stoehr (quickly anglicised to Stair) from Schriesheim near Heidelburg arrived with his parents under the same scheme on 29/3/1855 but 60 people on that ship (including his mother) died of cholera on that voyage. He later married Anna Rosina Nebauer whose brother had migrated in 1852. Sorry to rave on but you can blame the strong connection I feel to the people of this group - perhaps it's an over-reaction to reading here so much about the SA stories. After all, many people do think that's the only German story in Australia, don't they? Meg Shepherd (Negline) ==== AUS-GERMAN Mailing List ==== For your Aus-German resources go to http://www.ainsleehooper.com/germlinks.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx .